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| Christians Are Pretenders! by jerrymania(m): 10:33am On May 28, 2007 |
I have been one of those religious christians one time in my life burning with "fire" and "brimstone". But i've come to realise that Christianity as a Religion is actual pretence. No one wants to break out of the shell.And nowadays the veil is opening and so many christians are seeing the lies that has been cooked up for ages. Christians are all pretenders, religious pretenders. |
| Re: Christians Are Pretenders! by lafile(m): 10:59am On May 28, 2007 |
Not everybody is like you |
| Re: Christians Are Pretenders! by mazaje(m): 12:54pm On May 28, 2007 |
As far as there is poverty and problems there will always be a need to hold onto a god so that people will have some solace in him, when the level of poverty is over bearing u need to believe in something so that you give it some credit when things work out well for u(God) and blame it when you run out of luck or when the things you desire dont come your way(Devil). Christians are'nt pretenders but they are adhering to the tenents of their religion, I live in a godless society but its 100 times better than Nigeria which is the most religious country i know, here despite their lack of belief, they are the most honest people i have interacted with, life has a lot of value to them and you will always get justice,what is urs is urs and no body will bear false withess against you, they never pray cos they don't believe in god yet they have all the finer things in life, they are far happier and live far longer despite their unbelief unlike nigeria where religion is the way yet the most evil and criminally infested place i know. as long as poverty exist there will always be gods. |
| Re: Christians Are Pretenders! by efuah(f): 1:00pm On May 28, 2007 |
@ poster i totally disagree with u |
| Re: Christians Are Pretenders! by Nobody: 1:45pm On May 28, 2007 |
"Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, " 2 Thessalonians 2:3 (KJV). Go figure what this sentence means @ Jeremania |
| Re: Christians Are Pretenders! by donny1: 3:16pm On May 28, 2007 |
You should not judge others. You are expected to live like JESUS on earth to edify the body of Christ rather to criticize others. |
| Re: Christians Are Pretenders! by stimulus(m): 7:09pm On May 28, 2007 |
@jerrymania, There are two issues you highlighted in your opening post: jerrymania: (a) you happened to have been your own pretender, and it took you this long to realize the weakness of your drama (b) your 'religious christianity' does not tessellate with authentic Biblical Christianity. jerrymania: If you had not been playing your own fake, pretentious religiosity for that long, you'd have known the difference. The Bible speaks of Christianity more as a relationship where God is our Father and believers are His children by faith in Jesus Christ. jerrymania: Christians have no shells to break out of, because your religious Christianity just happens to be pretentious all along. And yes, Christians have been and are still seeing the lies that have been cooked up against Christ down through the ages; and for all that, more people are coming to know the wonderful saving grace in Jesus Christ. jerrymania: Ah yes, that's one more lie that you've cooked up; and it still won't take you anywhere nearer the truth of who Christians are. You remind me of this verse: "They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us." -- 1John 2:19 Christians are not pretenders. Inspite of all the criticisms, Christians who know their relationship with Jesus Christ continue to grow in His love and grace. Would you rather like to reconsider your pretences and seek the real? |
| Re: Christians Are Pretenders! by stimulus(m): 7:13pm On May 28, 2007 |
KinkyJay: When you hang out long enough with pretenders, you would always agree with them if you're one yourself.  |
| Re: Christians Are Pretenders! by thesilent1(m): 9:16pm On May 28, 2007 |
i think that deals with that statement |
| Re: Christians Are Pretenders! by dinnerm(f): 9:53pm On May 28, 2007 |
i hate it when people read rubbish like this,infact its foolishness,did any one force you to be a christian,its a thing of the heart,so its not by force,if you dont want 2 be you can leave the religion,and i will be very sorry for you,its not because of what you wrote that i will leave christianity,God forbid!  |
| Re: Christians Are Pretenders! by TellyB(m): 9:49am On May 29, 2007 |
Em. . . @jerrymania, My pastor used to say: "If you entered as a dramatist, when the performance is over you will put off your costumes and face the real life off the stage!" By implication, I would say that being a pretender does not make others what you were. Even when we as true Christians fail, we make no pretences about our failures - but in God we have found real strength to go on gloriously in His love. It's time to put away the costumes - and face the REALITY in the Son of God. |
| Re: Christians Are Pretenders! by jerrymania(m): 10:24am On May 29, 2007 |
frosbel: Yes i figured out what that means: Now there is the falling away (and you dont even have the knowledge of what that means), you can be deceived! donny1: I think this will be from the famous matthew's verse that speaks about the judgement; ", for with what judgement you mete out to others so it shall be meted out to you". I can judge and be judged. So its not evil right?? stimulus: Hmmm now you tell me Christians are not "fleshy" right Oh mr perfect non-sinner, if its your continous bashing of the muslims (babs would testify) then you have a shell to break out from, i hope you know whats called "love"!stimulus: Ah now who's the pretender now! YOU because you are now very fanatical! You really dont understand that verse. I knew you are one of those christians that interprets literally what they read. Now who's the "they" John referred to? and he was referring to a past event brother! not a present day movement. and i bet he wasnt talking about me  dinner m: yes you stepped into this "same rubbish" by reading it right? yep a thing of the heart,that makes you more cautious and a pretender and fanatical too because "you are surrounded by a cloud of witness"! Oh christianity is now a religion but this is what stimulus wrote stimulus: So your bible told you christianity is a religion and stimulus's own told him its a "relationship"! You are the one who's confused. Its not a new thing if you leave christianity.and its not going to affect me in anyway if you do leave but you aint the only one in the world and i didnt write that post only for you! Telly B: I believe in the Son of God and you are going to be the same person to whiplash me when i say Jesus is not God Almighty! right! clash of doctrines doesnt show the straight way to Christ. trying to be perfect would mean displaying a lot of pretence along the way. |
| Re: Christians Are Pretenders! by TellyB(m): 10:44am On May 29, 2007 |
@jerrymania, jerrymania: So, what in your understanding does that mean? jerrymania: Nope, so long as you do so within the context that you those words are meant to be conveyed. jerrymania: Being "fleshy" and being a "drop out" are two different things. You have testified that you were one of the pretenders; so don't get mad that he helped to airbrush that line, incase you missed it. As to the continuous "bashing" of Muslims, please wake up and look well that with over 700 posts, your adulator mr babs787 has done the same and received the cobwebbed sympathy that has sent him into exile. I stumbled across this Forum while searching for something on the net; and he has not been able to hold his tuff intelligently since questions have been asked! He should be happy now to read your sympathies. jerrymania: That's why your pretences only become even more pronounced! Pretenders do this often - "the Bible is not to be read literally" - only when their own pretences have been highlighted. jerrymania: Christianity is MORE of a "relationship" does not mean that it cannot be spoken of in terms of a "religion". The fanaticism and pretences have only become more pronounced because you're trying to whip up issues you can't sustain. jerrymania: Go read it again - stimulus made a clear statement that you didn't read through carefully. jerrymania: |
| Re: Christians Are Pretenders! by thesilent1(m): 11:25am On May 29, 2007 |
@ Jerrymania, please please correct me if i am wrong but i sense some anger in your posts and i think i can actually relate!!! LOL let me explain and you tell me if am wrong (which more than likely might be! LOL) i got saved when i was 12 yrs old in a Scripture Union meeting in secondary school in Benin city and i was "on fire" for God. the bible was life and nothing else. i was the epitomy of zeal and no wisdom!! i was having night vigils by myself at 2am, prayer walks round my boarding school while trying to avoid the house masters, tithing my provisions and food, sabbath day meant no work!!! etc! lol looking back now after 20 yrs, i am JUST starting to KNOW God!!!!!!! LOL strange as it may sound, i learnt so much from PEOPLE and THEIR views about God. I never really took the time to study for myself and show myself approved! not ashamed because i knew God for myself!!! i will be the first to say that we have a LOT of sacred cows in our faith that have now become almost yokes of buddern more than anything else. we have a lot of people who do things, say things, act in a particular way, have doctrines that are all traditional and not truth! some of these were started in good faith and some as a deliberate act to have people in bondage but this is where ignorance is NOT bliss. if we do not take the time to search for things and come to our own conclusions with the help of Holy Spirit in us, then we have no one to blame but ourselves. let me tell you a paraphrased story from the OT; prophet gets an email from God to go and see some guy and is told the missions is secret and must not be changed in any way. prophet leaves home to go on mission but is called by another agent on the way to stop by for quick pint in local pub. prophet says cant make it due to mission. other agent says yeah, its all part of the same mission so prophet agrees to go for 1/2 pint to be on safe side. at the pub, the agent now gets a text from God to tell the prophet that as he did not go where he was supposed to, he was going to die at the hands of a lion and it goes down just as the agent had said. quick question, who killed the prophet? the reason i ask is that most people who you ask will say God killed the guy. now i told that story just to say that over 90% (stats are just figures! do not shoot me) of things attributed to God have NOTHING to do with him! if you would like to discuss this further, please pm me. now, i am about to say something that even the likes of telly B, stimulus, etc might find to be too much BUT when / if you attribute ALL power to God, then you HAVE to accept that what ever happens here on earth, in hell or even in heaven has to go "through" God and since he / God is meant to be loving, then we have to "accept" that whatever happens is for our own "best interest" - THIS IS ONE VIEW!!!!!! if nothing goes through god first and the devil simply does his own thing, then that means that God is NOT all powerful!!! ANOTHER VIEW! so, with the two above, which ever you decide on will determine your view on both God and the Devil. your conclusion about christians being pretenders stems from a wrong understanding of what a christian is. once you understand YOUR position and what GOD'S position is, you will quickly lose this ideaology because you undersatnd it for what it is. bear in mind, you can read the life of Paul and come to the conclusion that he, as a christian was a very "fleshy", prideful and even arrongant man but when you KNOW salvation, your view changes. it NO longer becames a religion as in what YOU do to live a certain life style!!!!!!! instead you see a relationship that grows and nutures just like ANY other kind. so in summary, to say that christians are pretenders might actually be correct based on the fact that we are trying to live out what our spirits have changed to but still with the fleshy tools we have (with the spirit serve life, with the flesh law of sin and death, PAR) peace! |
| Re: Christians Are Pretenders! by TellyB(m): 11:31am On May 29, 2007 |
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