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Before You Compare Amotekun With Hisbah... by Turakee2(m): 8:05pm On Jan 18, 2020
BEFORE YOU COMPARE HISBAH WITH AMOTEKUN
Since the declaration of the South Western Nigeria Security Network (AMOTEKUN) as illegal by the Federal Government, a lot of people especially from the South West, have been trying so hard to compare the outfit with Kano State's Hisbah Corps.
I just thought that I should share the below information.
1. The Kano State Hisbah Board was created through the Kano State Hisbah Board Law No.4 of 2003 and the Kano State Hisbah Board (Amendment) Law No.6 of 2005 by the Kano State House of Assembly, which were duly assented to by the then Governor of Kano State, Malam Ibrahim Shekarau.
Now, what Law created AMOTEKUN, by which House of Assembly, and who assented to it?
2. Under Section 7 of the Law No. 4 of 2003, Hisbah Corps were established with the duties and responsibilities set out under subsection (4) of that section, some of which include:
" - Rendering necessary assistance to the Police and other Security Agencies especially in the areas of prevention, detention and reporting of offences;
- Handling non-fire-arms for self defence like batons, and other non-lethal civil defence instruments;
- Assisting in traffic control;
- Assisting in any other situation that will require the involvement of Hisbah be it preventive or detective."
The Law that established Hisbah Corps was categorical in not allowing them to carry fire arms or any lethal weapons for self defence.
What about AMOTEKUN? What does the law establishing it say, if at all one exists?
3. The Government of Olusegun Obasanjo through the Inspector General of Police Mr. Sunday Ehindero in a press briefing on 7th of February, 2006 declared the Hisbah Law and the operations of the bodies created by the Laws as unconstitutional and illegal.
Is AMOTEKUN even backed by any Law?
4. On 8th February, 2006 the same Inspector General of Police Sunday Ehindero ordered his officers and men to effect the arrest of the Chairman and Commander General of the Hisbah Corps, Mallam Yahaya Farouk Chedi and his Deputy Mallam Abubakar Abdulkareem Rabo. They were arrested in Kano and immediately taken to Abuja where they were detained.
Has any Commander of AMOTEKUN been arrested, despite the fact that they are not backed by any known law and are made to carry fire-arms?
Would the atmosphere not have been more volatile by now if such has happened?
5. The same Government of Olusegun Obasanjo through the Minister of Information, Mr Frank Nweke Jr. in another press briefing made serious allegations that the Hisbah had sought foreign assistance from Libya and Iran for training as a terrorist group.
Has there been any such or similar allegations by the Federal Government against AMOTEKUN, even though the outlawed notorious Yoruba Ethnic Militia (OPC) with history of violent crimes against other ethnic groups and even the police, are integral part of the outfit?
Despite all the blackmail by Obasanjo Administration against HISBAH, no insults or overheating the polity were seen.
Northern Leaders and Intellectuals did not use emotion and blackmail to handle the unwarranted assault by the Obasanjo led Federal Government.
Northerners did not accuse Obasanjo and Ehindero (both Yoruba) of executing a Yoruba domination agenda.
Northern Muslims did not accuse Obasanjo, Ehindero and Nweke Jr. (all Southern Christians) of executing a Christianization agenda.
Rather, common sense prevailed and the Attorney General of Kano State took the matter to the Supreme Court where it was resolved.
Now, if the Yorubas believe AMOTEKUN is legal or created by any law and that the duties and responsibilities of the outfit (including the issue of holding fire-arms or lethal weapons) does not contravene any provision of the constitution, what is stopping them from approaching the Courts for settlement of the matter?
Why can't our Yoruba brothers pursue the issue of AMOTEKUN based purely on its merit and without joining HISBAH which differs in legitimacy, structure and functions, into their agitation?
Why can't they go about the matter with maturity and without insults or emotional blackmail against the Northerners especially and anyone of them who has reserved public commentary aligning with their agitations?
Is the group of South West Governors not made up of at least a lawyer? Rotimi Akeredolu the Governor of Ondo State is not only a Senior Advocate of Nigeria but also a former President of the Nigerian Bar Association. Why has he been unable to provide legal advise to his peers on the legal implications of setting up AMOTEKUN the way it was done?
Is this an indictment of his legal credentials or simply a well orchestrated move?

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Re: Before You Compare Amotekun With Hisbah... by babyfaceafrica: 8:08pm On Jan 18, 2020
This is super story..... Amotekun is here to stay!!.. Simple

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Re: Before You Compare Amotekun With Hisbah... by Nobody: 8:08pm On Jan 18, 2020
Wailer Amotekun is here to stay!!


You do anyhow in the West you see anyhow.

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Re: Before You Compare Amotekun With Hisbah... by Subzero047: 8:10pm On Jan 18, 2020
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Turakee2:
BEFORE YOU COMPARE HISBAH WITH AMOTEKUN
Since the declaration of the South Western Nigeria Security Network (AMOTEKUN) as illegal by the Federal Government, a lot of people especially from the South West, have been trying so hard to compare the outfit with Kano State's Hisbah Corps.
I just thought that I should share the below information.
1. The Kano State Hisbah Board was created through the Kano State Hisbah Board Law No.4 of 2003 and the Kano State Hisbah Board (Amendment) Law No.6 of 2005 by the Kano State House of Assembly, which were duly assented to by the then Governor of Kano State, Malam Ibrahim Shekarau.
Now, what Law created AMOTEKUN, by which House of Assembly, and who assented to it?
2. Under Section 7 of the Law No. 4 of 2003, Hisbah Corps were established with the duties and responsibilities set out under subsection (4) of that section, some of which include:
" - Rendering necessary assistance to the Police and other Security Agencies especially in the areas of prevention, detention and reporting of offences;
- Handling non-fire-arms for self defence like batons, and other non-lethal civil defence instruments;
- Assisting in traffic control;
- Assisting in any other situation that will require the involvement of Hisbah be it preventive or detective."
The Law that established Hisbah Corps was categorical in not allowing them to carry fire arms or any lethal weapons for self defence.
What about AMOTEKUN? What does the law establishing it say, if at all one exists?
3. The Government of Olusegun Obasanjo through the Inspector General of Police Mr. Sunday Ehindero in a press briefing on 7th of February, 2006 declared the Hisbah Law and the operations of the bodies created by the Laws as unconstitutional and illegal.
Is AMOTEKUN even backed by any Law?
4. On 8th February, 2006 the same Inspector General of Police Sunday Ehindero ordered his officers and men to effect the arrest of the Chairman and Commander General of the Hisbah Corps, Mallam Yahaya Farouk Chedi and his Deputy Mallam Abubakar Abdulkareem Rabo. They were arrested in Kano and immediately taken to Abuja where they were detained.
Has any Commander of AMOTEKUN been arrested, despite the fact that they are not backed by any known law and are made to carry fire-arms?
Would the atmosphere not have been more volatile by now if such has happened?
5. The same Government of Olusegun Obasanjo through the Minister of Information, Mr Frank Nweke Jr. in another press briefing made serious allegations that the Hisbah had sought foreign assistance from Libya and Iran for training as a terrorist group.
Has there been any such or similar allegations by the Federal Government against AMOTEKUN, even though the outlawed notorious Yoruba Ethnic Militia (OPC) with history of violent crimes against other ethnic groups and even the police, are integral part of the outfit?
Despite all the blackmail by Obasanjo Administration against HISBAH, no insults or overheating the polity were seen.
Northern Leaders and Intellectuals did not use emotion and blackmail to handle the unwarranted assault by the Obasanjo led Federal Government.
Northerners did not accuse Obasanjo and Ehindero (both Yoruba) of executing a Yoruba domination agenda.
Northern Muslims did not accuse Obasanjo, Ehindero and Nweke Jr. (all Southern Christians) of executing a Christianization agenda.
Rather, common sense prevailed and the Attorney General of Kano State took the matter to the Supreme Court where it was resolved.
Now, if the Yorubas believe AMOTEKUN is legal or created by any law and that the duties and responsibilities of the outfit (including the issue of holding fire-arms or lethal weapons) does not contravene any provision of the constitution, what is stopping them from approaching the Courts for settlement of the matter?
Why can't our Yoruba brothers pursue the issue of AMOTEKUN based purely on its merit and without joining HISBAH which differs in legitimacy, structure and functions, into their agitation?
Why can't they go about the matter with maturity and without insults or emotional blackmail against the Northerners especially and anyone of them who has reserved public commentary aligning with their agitations?
Is the group of South West Governors not made up of at least a lawyer? Rotimi Akeredolu the Governor of Ondo State is not only a Senior Advocate of Nigeria but also a former President of the Nigerian Bar Association. Why has he been unable to provide legal advise to his peers on the legal implications of setting up AMOTEKUN the way it was done?
Is this an indictment of his legal credentials or simply a well orchestrated move?
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Re: Before You Compare Amotekun With Hisbah... by Ttalk: 8:12pm On Jan 18, 2020
No going back. Amotekun has come to stay. Each state government will put law to back it up within a week

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Re: Before You Compare Amotekun With Hisbah... by vizboy(m): 8:14pm On Jan 18, 2020
The law makers from this states should just create a Law for State Police

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Re: Before You Compare Amotekun With Hisbah... by Blue3k(m): 8:24pm On Jan 18, 2020
vizboy:
The law makers from this states should just create a Law for State Police

You need constitutional amendment to allow that but everyone is focused on half measures.
Re: Before You Compare Amotekun With Hisbah... by Nobody: 8:35pm On Jan 18, 2020
So you sat down purposely to compose this trash?.

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Re: Before You Compare Amotekun With Hisbah... by udoka55555: 8:37pm On Jan 18, 2020
Hi
Re: Before You Compare Amotekun With Hisbah... by udoka55555: 8:39pm On Jan 18, 2020
Lets keep watching........ They all sound the same to me.......let's try state security
Re: Before You Compare Amotekun With Hisbah... by mrvitalis(m): 8:40pm On Jan 18, 2020
Turakee2:
BEFORE YOU COMPARE HISBAH WITH AMOTEKUN
Since the declaration of the South Western Nigeria Security Network (AMOTEKUN) as illegal by the Federal Government, a lot of people especially from the South West, have been trying so hard to compare the outfit with Kano State's Hisbah Corps.
I just thought that I should share the below information.
1. The Kano State Hisbah Board was created through the Kano State Hisbah Board Law No.4 of 2003 and the Kano State Hisbah Board (Amendment) Law No.6 of 2005 by the Kano State House of Assembly, which were duly assented to by the then Governor of Kano State, Malam Ibrahim Shekarau.
Now, what Law created AMOTEKUN, by which House of Assembly, and who assented to it?
2. Under Section 7 of the Law No. 4 of 2003, Hisbah Corps were established with the duties and responsibilities set out under subsection (4) of that section, some of which include:
" - Rendering necessary assistance to the Police and other Security Agencies especially in the areas of prevention, detention and reporting of offences;
- Handling non-fire-arms for self defence like batons, and other non-lethal civil defence instruments;
- Assisting in traffic control;
- Assisting in any other situation that will require the involvement of Hisbah be it preventive or detective."
The Law that established Hisbah Corps was categorical in not allowing them to carry fire arms or any lethal weapons for self defence.
What about AMOTEKUN? What does the law establishing it say, if at all one exists?
3. The Government of Olusegun Obasanjo through the Inspector General of Police Mr. Sunday Ehindero in a press briefing on 7th of February, 2006 declared the Hisbah Law and the operations of the bodies created by the Laws as unconstitutional and illegal.
Is AMOTEKUN even backed by any Law?
4. On 8th February, 2006 the same Inspector General of Police Sunday Ehindero ordered his officers and men to effect the arrest of the Chairman and Commander General of the Hisbah Corps, Mallam Yahaya Farouk Chedi and his Deputy Mallam Abubakar Abdulkareem Rabo. They were arrested in Kano and immediately taken to Abuja where they were detained.
Has any Commander of AMOTEKUN been arrested, despite the fact that they are not backed by any known law and are made to carry fire-arms?
Would the atmosphere not have been more volatile by now if such has happened?
5. The same Government of Olusegun Obasanjo through the Minister of Information, Mr Frank Nweke Jr. in another press briefing made serious allegations that the Hisbah had sought foreign assistance from Libya and Iran for training as a terrorist group.
Has there been any such or similar allegations by the Federal Government against AMOTEKUN, even though the outlawed notorious Yoruba Ethnic Militia (OPC) with history of violent crimes against other ethnic groups and even the police, are integral part of the outfit?
Despite all the blackmail by Obasanjo Administration against HISBAH, no insults or overheating the polity were seen.
Northern Leaders and Intellectuals did not use emotion and blackmail to handle the unwarranted assault by the Obasanjo led Federal Government.
Northerners did not accuse Obasanjo and Ehindero (both Yoruba) of executing a Yoruba domination agenda.
Northern Muslims did not accuse Obasanjo, Ehindero and Nweke Jr. (all Southern Christians) of executing a Christianization agenda.
Rather, common sense prevailed and the Attorney General of Kano State took the matter to the Supreme Court where it was resolved.
Now, if the Yorubas believe AMOTEKUN is legal or created by any law and that the duties and responsibilities of the outfit (including the issue of holding fire-arms or lethal weapons) does not contravene any provision of the constitution, what is stopping them from approaching the Courts for settlement of the matter?
Why can't our Yoruba brothers pursue the issue of AMOTEKUN based purely on its merit and without joining HISBAH which differs in legitimacy, structure and functions, into their agitation?
Why can't they go about the matter with maturity and without insults or emotional blackmail against the Northerners especially and anyone of them who has reserved public commentary aligning with their agitations?
Is the group of South West Governors not made up of at least a lawyer? Rotimi Akeredolu the Governor of Ondo State is not only a Senior Advocate of Nigeria but also a former President of the Nigerian Bar Association. Why has he been unable to provide legal advise to his peers on the legal implications of setting up AMOTEKUN the way it was done?
Is this an indictment of his legal credentials or simply a well orchestrated move?
How about civilian JTF

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Re: Before You Compare Amotekun With Hisbah... by WisdomFlakes: 8:40pm On Jan 18, 2020
Everybody should just calm down. The SW governors should send a bill to their respective state assemblies to legitimize the Amotekun outfit while the Northerners should also sit their behinds down and stop heating up the polity over a non-issue. Lagos has something similar to Amotekun (called 'Lagos Neighbourhood Safety Corps' -- see pictures from the launch of the outfit below) and nobody made a fuss about it. At the end of the day everybody go dey alright.

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Re: Before You Compare Amotekun With Hisbah... by Nigerianization(m): 8:41pm On Jan 18, 2020
The way the Arewa community and the Fulani sociocultural organization reacted and still reacts to the creation of AMOTEKUN raises suspicion. It appears as if the federal government was dancing to their tune.

From your in depth analysis above, there was no where I read that southern sociocultural organisations raised alarms like ACF and Miyetti Allah
Re: Before You Compare Amotekun With Hisbah... by saaron(m): 8:50pm On Jan 18, 2020
If Nigeria was a sane country going by it's constitution stating ''Nigeria is a Secular Country'', things like declaration of sharia in 12 northern states, automatically making Islam State religion in these states would never have been allowed in the first place let alone creation of hisbah islamic police. Islamic police maintained with Southern Nigeria's money (Free oil money of couse). Isn't this an anomally?
These sharia states have no problem building 1,000 mosques with public funds. After all islam is their official religion.
Is this what Nigeria's constitution stood for when it expressly stated that ''Nigeria is a secular state''? Is this what secularism is about? State govs unilaterally declaring their states Islamic states? Pathetic.
Those comparing Amotekun with Hisbah are themselves confused. Though they share similarities giving that they're both security organizations and creation of state govts, they're not exactly the same. While hisbah police is religious based organization, Amotekun is not. Amotekun was created principally for the protection of lives and properties.
Time Nigerians know that a country that contradict it's own laws will never stand.

Now I see why MURIC is spewing ridiculous allegations claiming Amotekun is a christian security outfit. Obviously their aim was to drag Amotekun to hisbah islamic police level under the banner of religion. Unfortuantely for them, Amotekun is not associated with any religion. If there should be a court trial between Amotekun and Hisbah islamic police, hishah will be the only organization that will be terminated.

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Re: Before You Compare Amotekun With Hisbah... by Fasindo: 8:50pm On Jan 18, 2020
shocked











Ametokun is here to stay

Since I was born but now I am getting old I have never seen anything that pained Miyetti Allah like Ametokun.

Brothers nd sisters have u seen?

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Re: Before You Compare Amotekun With Hisbah... by GamalNasser: 8:56pm On Jan 18, 2020
You don't need extra laws to set up a community Vigilante outfit in Nigeria .. show us the law used to create CJTF in the North East

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Re: Before You Compare Amotekun With Hisbah... by owunabastard: 8:57pm On Jan 18, 2020
Knowing fully well that going to supreme court will favour Northerners
Re: Before You Compare Amotekun With Hisbah... by Blue3k(m): 8:58pm On Jan 18, 2020
Northern Muslims did not accuse Obasanjo, Ehindero and Nweke Jr. (all Southern Christians) of executing a Christianization agenda.
Rather, common sense prevailed and the Attorney General of Kano State took the matter to the Supreme Court where it was resolved.
Now, if the Yorubas believe AMOTEKUN is legal or created by any law and that the duties and responsibilities of the outfit (including the issue of holding fire-arms or lethal weapons) does not contravene any provision of the constitution, what is stopping them from approaching the Courts for settlement of the matter?

I believe if the matter went to the supreme court they would naturally see all these security agencies as illegal if they considered police. There's little difference between them. If that's the case amend the constitution. Malami should sue if he has an issue. Im just waiting to see when if Federal government is going arrest someone. If they aren't going to enforce their laws the issue is dead.

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Re: Before You Compare Amotekun With Hisbah... by Ritchiee: 9:01pm On Jan 18, 2020
Turakee2:
BEFORE YOU COMPARE HISBAH WITH AMOTEKUN
Since the declaration of the South Western Nigeria Security Network (AMOTEKUN) as illegal by the Federal Government, a lot of people especially from the South West, have been trying so hard to compare the outfit with Kano State's Hisbah Corps.
I just thought that I should share the below information.
1. The Kano State Hisbah Board was created through the Kano State Hisbah Board Law No.4 of 2003 and the Kano State Hisbah Board (Amendment) Law No.6 of 2005 by the Kano State House of Assembly, which were duly assented to by the then Governor of Kano State, Malam Ibrahim Shekarau.
Now, what Law created AMOTEKUN, by which House of Assembly, and who assented to it?
2. Under Section 7 of the Law No. 4 of 2003, Hisbah Corps were established with the duties and responsibilities set out under subsection (4) of that section, some of which include:
" - Rendering necessary assistance to the Police and other Security Agencies especially in the areas of prevention, detention and reporting of offences;
- Handling non-fire-arms for self defence like batons, and other non-lethal civil defence instruments;
- Assisting in traffic control;
- Assisting in any other situation that will require the involvement of Hisbah be it preventive or detective."
The Law that established Hisbah Corps was categorical in not allowing them to carry fire arms or any lethal weapons for self defence.
What about AMOTEKUN? What does the law establishing it say, if at all one exists?
3. The Government of Olusegun Obasanjo through the Inspector General of Police Mr. Sunday Ehindero in a press briefing on 7th of February, 2006 declared the Hisbah Law and the operations of the bodies created by the Laws as unconstitutional and illegal.
Is AMOTEKUN even backed by any Law?
4. On 8th February, 2006 the same Inspector General of Police Sunday Ehindero ordered his officers and men to effect the arrest of the Chairman and Commander General of the Hisbah Corps, Mallam Yahaya Farouk Chedi and his Deputy Mallam Abubakar Abdulkareem Rabo. They were arrested in Kano and immediately taken to Abuja where they were detained.
Has any Commander of AMOTEKUN been arrested, despite the fact that they are not backed by any known law and are made to carry fire-arms?
Would the atmosphere not have been more volatile by now if such has happened?
5. The same Government of Olusegun Obasanjo through the Minister of Information, Mr Frank Nweke Jr. in another press briefing made serious allegations that the Hisbah had sought foreign assistance from Libya and Iran for training as a terrorist group.
Has there been any such or similar allegations by the Federal Government against AMOTEKUN, even though the outlawed notorious Yoruba Ethnic Militia (OPC) with history of violent crimes against other ethnic groups and even the police, are integral part of the outfit?
Despite all the blackmail by Obasanjo Administration against HISBAH, no insults or overheating the polity were seen.
Northern Leaders and Intellectuals did not use emotion and blackmail to handle the unwarranted assault by the Obasanjo led Federal Government.
Northerners did not accuse Obasanjo and Ehindero (both Yoruba) of executing a Yoruba domination agenda.
Northern Muslims did not accuse Obasanjo, Ehindero and Nweke Jr. (all Southern Christians) of executing a Christianization agenda.
Rather, common sense prevailed and the Attorney General of Kano State took the matter to the Supreme Court where it was resolved.
Now, if the Yorubas believe AMOTEKUN is legal or created by any law and that the duties and responsibilities of the outfit (including the issue of holding fire-arms or lethal weapons) does not contravene any provision of the constitution, what is stopping them from approaching the Courts for settlement of the matter?
Why can't our Yoruba brothers pursue the issue of AMOTEKUN based purely on its merit and without joining HISBAH which differs in legitimacy, structure and functions, into their agitation?
Why can't they go about the matter with maturity and without insults or emotional blackmail against the Northerners especially and anyone of them who has reserved public commentary aligning with their agitations?
Is the group of South West Governors not made up of at least a lawyer? Rotimi Akeredolu the Governor of Ondo State is not only a Senior Advocate of Nigeria but also a former President of the Nigerian Bar Association. Why has he been unable to provide legal advise to his peers on the legal implications of setting up AMOTEKUN the way it was done?
Is this an indictment of his legal credentials or simply a well orchestrated move?

The scenario that caused the creation of Amotekun is different from that of Hisbah.
No Yoruba group was invading the northern hemisphere the way herdsmen are ransacking everywhere in Nigeria now or even claiming that they want to join Hisbah.
Amotekun is a creation of necessity and all Yoruba support it.
Why do you think only Fulanis are the ones against it?

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Re: Before You Compare Amotekun With Hisbah... by omowolewa: 9:02pm On Jan 18, 2020
We talking about securing human life here, stop politics and Tribal supremacy

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Re: Before You Compare Amotekun With Hisbah... by AgentNairaland(f): 9:03pm On Jan 18, 2020
@OP

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Re: Before You Compare Amotekun With Hisbah... by Ojoji(m): 9:05pm On Jan 18, 2020
Turakee2:
BEFORE YOU COMPARE HISBAH WITH AMOTEKUN
Since the declaration of the South Western Nigeria Security Network (AMOTEKUN) as illegal by the Federal Government, a lot of people especially from the South West, have been trying so hard to compare the outfit with Kano State's Hisbah Corps.
I just thought that I should share the below information.
1. The Kano State Hisbah Board was created through the Kano State Hisbah Board Law No.4 of 2003 and the Kano State Hisbah Board (Amendment) Law No.6 of 2005 by the Kano State House of Assembly, which were duly assented to by the then Governor of Kano State, Malam Ibrahim Shekarau.
Now, what Law created AMOTEKUN, by which House of Assembly, and who assented to it?
2. Under Section 7 of the Law No. 4 of 2003, Hisbah Corps were established with the duties and responsibilities set out under subsection (4) of that section, some of which include:
" - Rendering necessary assistance to the Police and other Security Agencies especially in the areas of prevention, detention and reporting of offences;
- Handling non-fire-arms for self defence like batons, and other non-lethal civil defence instruments;
- Assisting in traffic control;
- Assisting in any other situation that will require the involvement of Hisbah be it preventive or detective."
The Law that established Hisbah Corps was categorical in not allowing them to carry fire arms or any lethal weapons for self defence.
What about AMOTEKUN? What does the law establishing it say, if at all one exists?
3. The Government of Olusegun Obasanjo through the Inspector General of Police Mr. Sunday Ehindero in a press briefing on 7th of February, 2006 declared the Hisbah Law and the operations of the bodies created by the Laws as unconstitutional and illegal.
Is AMOTEKUN even backed by any Law?
4. On 8th February, 2006 the same Inspector General of Police Sunday Ehindero ordered his officers and men to effect the arrest of the Chairman and Commander General of the Hisbah Corps, Mallam Yahaya Farouk Chedi and his Deputy Mallam Abubakar Abdulkareem Rabo. They were arrested in Kano and immediately taken to Abuja where they were detained.
Has any Commander of AMOTEKUN been arrested, despite the fact that they are not backed by any known law and are made to carry fire-arms?
Would the atmosphere not have been more volatile by now if such has happened?
5. The same Government of Olusegun Obasanjo through the Minister of Information, Mr Frank Nweke Jr. in another press briefing made serious allegations that the Hisbah had sought foreign assistance from Libya and Iran for training as a terrorist group.
Has there been any such or similar allegations by the Federal Government against AMOTEKUN, even though the outlawed notorious Yoruba Ethnic Militia (OPC) with history of violent crimes against other ethnic groups and even the police, are integral part of the outfit?
Despite all the blackmail by Obasanjo Administration against HISBAH, no insults or overheating the polity were seen.
Northern Leaders and Intellectuals did not use emotion and blackmail to handle the unwarranted assault by the Obasanjo led Federal Government.
Northerners did not accuse Obasanjo and Ehindero (both Yoruba) of executing a Yoruba domination agenda.
Northern Muslims did not accuse Obasanjo, Ehindero and Nweke Jr. (all Southern Christians) of executing a Christianization agenda.
Rather, common sense prevailed and the Attorney General of Kano State took the matter to the Supreme Court where it was resolved.
Now, if the Yorubas believe AMOTEKUN is legal or created by any law and that the duties and responsibilities of the outfit (including the issue of holding fire-arms or lethal weapons) does not contravene any provision of the constitution, what is stopping them from approaching the Courts for settlement of the matter?
Why can't our Yoruba brothers pursue the issue of AMOTEKUN based purely on its merit and without joining HISBAH which differs in legitimacy, structure and functions, into their agitation?
Why can't they go about the matter with maturity and without insults or emotional blackmail against the Northerners especially and anyone of them who has reserved public commentary aligning with their agitations?
Is the group of South West Governors not made up of at least a lawyer? Rotimi Akeredolu the Governor of Ondo State is not only a Senior Advocate of Nigeria but also a former President of the Nigerian Bar Association. Why has he been unable to provide legal advise to his peers on the legal implications of setting up AMOTEKUN the way it was done?
Is this an indictment of his legal credentials or simply a well orchestrated move?

You are a good student of history let us look it from this perspective. How I wished Obasanjo government dealt with northerners rascality then there could be no issues of security the whole country is engulfed with now, there could be no need of tiger in south west. We all remembered the sharia of northern Nigeria that gave birth to monster Boko Haram. There was virtually no issue of insecurity in the north then that required hisbath police. Sentiment apart, apart of crimes, bombing and suicide bombing are not known to south but north. Please don't compare the issue at hand with anything else, I hope you do hear how Fulani acts with impunity and nobody is calling them into order, Nigeria police is practically helpless.
Any arrangement that would help south west is welcome.

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Re: Before You Compare Amotekun With Hisbah... by crownwealth: 9:22pm On Jan 18, 2020
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Blue3k:


I believe if the matter went to the supreme court they would naturally see all these security agencies as illegal if they considered police. There's little difference between them. If that's the case amend the constitution. Malami should sue if he has an issue. Im just waiting to see when if Federal government is going arrest someone. If they aren't going to enforce their laws the issue is dead.
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Stop posting gibberish


Amotekun ti de!

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Re: Before You Compare Amotekun With Hisbah... by Blue3k(m): 9:38pm On Jan 18, 2020
crownwealth:
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Stop posting gibberish


Amotekun ti de!

Lol all you're good at is foolish sloganeering. I can't expect clowns like yourself to understand nuanced opinions. The constitution should be amended to allow any tier of government to hsve their own police force and prisons. Anything else is just a half measure.

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Re: Before You Compare Amotekun With Hisbah... by joyandfaith: 9:42pm On Jan 18, 2020
op should try to compare civilian jtf and amotekun and he should tell us why one is legal snd other is illegal
Re: Before You Compare Amotekun With Hisbah... by danot1030: 9:43pm On Jan 18, 2020
Turakee2:
BEFORE YOU COMPARE HISBAH WITH AMOTEKUN
Since the declaration of the South Western Nigeria Security Network (AMOTEKUN) as illegal by the Federal Government, a lot of people especially from the South West, have been trying so hard to compare the outfit with Kano State's Hisbah Corps.
I just thought that I should share the below information.
1. The Kano State Hisbah Board was created through the Kano State Hisbah Board Law No.4 of 2003 and the Kano State Hisbah Board (Amendment) Law No.6 of 2005 by the Kano State House of Assembly, which were duly assented to by the then Governor of Kano State, Malam Ibrahim Shekarau.
Now, what Law created AMOTEKUN, by which House of Assembly, and who assented to it?
2. Under Section 7 of the Law No. 4 of 2003, Hisbah Corps were established with the duties and responsibilities set out under subsection (4) of that section, some of which include:
" - Rendering necessary assistance to the Police and other Security Agencies especially in the areas of prevention, detention and reporting of offences;
- Handling non-fire-arms for self defence like batons, and other non-lethal civil defence instruments;
- Assisting in traffic control;
- Assisting in any other situation that will require the involvement of Hisbah be it preventive or detective."
The Law that established Hisbah Corps was categorical in not allowing them to carry fire arms or any lethal weapons for self defence.
What about AMOTEKUN? What does the law establishing it say, if at all one exists?
3. The Government of Olusegun Obasanjo through the Inspector General of Police Mr. Sunday Ehindero in a press briefing on 7th of February, 2006 declared the Hisbah Law and the operations of the bodies created by the Laws as unconstitutional and illegal.
Is AMOTEKUN even backed by any Law?
4. On 8th February, 2006 the same Inspector General of Police Sunday Ehindero ordered his officers and men to effect the arrest of the Chairman and Commander General of the Hisbah Corps, Mallam Yahaya Farouk Chedi and his Deputy Mallam Abubakar Abdulkareem Rabo. They were arrested in Kano and immediately taken to Abuja where they were detained.
Has any Commander of AMOTEKUN been arrested, despite the fact that they are not backed by any known law and are made to carry fire-arms?
Would the atmosphere not have been more volatile by now if such has happened?
5. The same Government of Olusegun Obasanjo through the Minister of Information, Mr Frank Nweke Jr. in another press briefing made serious allegations that the Hisbah had sought foreign assistance from Libya and Iran for training as a terrorist group.
Has there been any such or similar allegations by the Federal Government against AMOTEKUN, even though the outlawed notorious Yoruba Ethnic Militia (OPC) with history of violent crimes against other ethnic groups and even the police, are integral part of the outfit?
Despite all the blackmail by Obasanjo Administration against HISBAH, no insults or overheating the polity were seen.
Northern Leaders and Intellectuals did not use emotion and blackmail to handle the unwarranted assault by the Obasanjo led Federal Government.
Northerners did not accuse Obasanjo and Ehindero (both Yoruba) of executing a Yoruba domination agenda.
Northern Muslims did not accuse Obasanjo, Ehindero and Nweke Jr. (all Southern Christians) of executing a Christianization agenda.
Rather, common sense prevailed and the Attorney General of Kano State took the matter to the Supreme Court where it was resolved.
Now, if the Yorubas believe AMOTEKUN is legal or created by any law and that the duties and responsibilities of the outfit (including the issue of holding fire-arms or lethal weapons) does not contravene any provision of the constitution, what is stopping them from approaching the Courts for settlement of the matter?
Why can't our Yoruba brothers pursue the issue of AMOTEKUN based purely on its merit and without joining HISBAH which differs in legitimacy, structure and functions, into their agitation?
Why can't they go about the matter with maturity and without insults or emotional blackmail against the Northerners especially and anyone of them who has reserved public commentary aligning with their agitations?
Is the group of South West Governors not made up of at least a lawyer? Rotimi Akeredolu the Governor of Ondo State is not only a Senior Advocate of Nigeria but also a former President of the Nigerian Bar Association. Why has he been unable to provide legal advise to his peers on the legal implications of setting up AMOTEKUN the way it was done?
Is this an indictment of his legal credentials or simply a well orchestrated move?

Aboki, Amotekun is here to stay your plenty story will not change it and if you don't like it stay clear from Yoruba land with your cows then you won't have trouble.

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Re: Before You Compare Amotekun With Hisbah... by Oshin56(m): 10:07pm On Jan 18, 2020
Bros are you among the miyeth Allah or how did they paid You that makes you to write all iberiberism on nairaland. It shows that your people have hidden agenda in the South because this amotekun has turn to your elders nightmare Se kayi.

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Re: Before You Compare Amotekun With Hisbah... by Amstupid(m): 10:07pm On Jan 18, 2020
Why is everybody fighting over amotekun for God sake ,,, east too should bring dogtekun or pigtekun na grin

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Re: Before You Compare Amotekun With Hisbah... by Oshin56(m): 10:16pm On Jan 18, 2020
Ritchiee:


The scenario that caused the creation of Amotekun is different from that of Hisbah.
No Yoruba group was invading the northern hemisphere the way herdsmen are ransacking everywhere in Nigeria now or even claiming that they want to join Hisbah.
Amotekun is a creation of necessity and all Yoruba support it.
Why do you think only Fulanis are the ones against it?
are they the only one in this country middlebelt, South South and Southeast did not condemn it only Hausa Fulani that are condemning it. There brother who is the president of this country ask people to go back to farming and people go back not knowing that is for the interest of there cow.

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Re: Before You Compare Amotekun With Hisbah... by punisha: 10:18pm On Jan 18, 2020
What kind of painment is this?
Shuooo...make una no die from high bp o!

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Re: Before You Compare Amotekun With Hisbah... by Ritchiee: 10:19pm On Jan 18, 2020
Oshin56:
are they the only one in this country middlebelt, South South and Southeast did not condemn it only Hausa Fulani that are condemning it. There brother who is the president of this country ask people to go back to farming and people go back not knowing that is for the interest of there cow.
It is so pathetic.

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Re: Before You Compare Amotekun With Hisbah... by Charmingrascal(m): 10:25pm On Jan 18, 2020
Terrorists are scared of Amotekun

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