Allah does not beget

Yahweh said Jesus is his begotten son (sexual intercourse via Mary without her consent)

AntiChristian:
Please add this verses to your topic! You won't be able to read it all.

Verily, the likeness of 'Iesa (Jesus) before Allah is the likeness of Adam. He created him from dust, then (He) said to him: "Be!" - and he was. (Qur'an 3:59)

45. (Remember) when the angels said: ‘O Maryam (Mary)! Verily, Allaah gives you the glad tidings of a Word [“Be!” — and he was! i.e. ‘Eesa (Jesus) the son of Maryam (Mary)] from Him, his name will be the Messiah ‘Eesa (Jesus), the son of Maryam (Mary), held in honour in this world and in the Hereafter, and will be one of those who are near to Allaah.

46. He will speak to the people, in the cradle and in manhood, and he will be one of the righteous.’

47. She said: ‘O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man has touched me?’ He said: ‘So (it will be) for Allaah creates what He wills. When He has decreed something, He says to it only: “Be!” — and it is.

48. And He (Allaah) will teach him [‘Eesa (Jesus)] the Book and Al-Hikmah (i.e. the Sunnah, the faultless speech of the Prophets, wisdom), (and) the Tawraat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel).

49. And will make him [‘Eesa (Jesus)] a Messenger to the Children of Israel (saying): “I have come to you with a sign from your Lord, that I design for you out of clay, a figure like that of a bird, and breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by Allaah’s Leave; and I heal him who was born blind, and the leper, and I bring the dead to life by Allaah’s Leave. And I inform you of what you eat, and what you store in your houses. Surely, therein is a sign for you, if you believe.

50. And I have come confirming that which was before me of the Tawraat (Torah), and to make lawful to you part of what was forbidden to you, and I have come to you with a proof from your Lord. So fear Allaah and obey me.

51. Truly, Allaah is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him (Alone). This is the Straight Path”

[Aal ‘Imraan 3:44-51]

“Such is ‘Eesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary). (It is) a statement of truth, about which they doubt (or dispute).

It befits not (the Majesty of) Allaah that He should beget a son [this refers to the slander of Christians against Allaah, by saying that ‘Eesa (Jesus) is the son of Allaah]. Glorified (and Exalted) be He (above all that they associate with Him). When He decrees a thing, He only says to it: “Be!” and it is”
[Maryam 19:35]

“O people of the Scripture (Christians)! Do not exceed the limits in your religion, nor say of Allaah aught but the truth. The Messiah ‘Eesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), was (no more than) a Messenger of Allaah and His Word, (“Be!” — and he was) which He bestowed on Maryam (Mary) and a spirit (Rooh) created by Him; so believe in Allaah and His Messengers. Say not: ‘Three (trinity)!’ Cease! (it is) better for you. For Allaah is (the only) One Ilaah (God), glory is to Him (Far Exalted is He) above having a son. To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allaah is All‑Sufficient as a Disposer of affairs.

172. The Messiah will never be proud to reject to be a slave of Allaah, nor the angels who are the near (to Allaah). And whosoever rejects His worship and is proud, then He will gather them all together unto Himself.

173. So, as for those who believed (in the Oneness of Allaah — Islamic Monotheism) and did deeds of righteousness, He will give them their (due) rewards — and more out of His Bounty. But as for those who refused His worship and were proud, He will punish them with a painful torment. And they will not find for themselves besides Allaah any protector or helper”

[al-Nisa’ 4:171-173]

Bye!

advocatejare:
The Quran clearly state that

1. Jesus is the Messiah

2. Jesus is God's Word

3. Jesus is a Spirit from God

يٰٓأَهْلَ الْكِتٰبِ لَا تَغْلُوا فِى دِينِكُمْ وَلَا تَقُولُوا عَلَى اللَّهِ إِلَّا الْحَقَّ  ۚ إِنَّمَا الْمَسِيحُ عِيسَى ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ وَكَلِمَتُهُۥٓ أَلْقٰىهَآ إِلٰى مَرْيَمَ وَرُوحٌ مِّنْهُ  ۖ فَئَامِنُوا بِاللَّهِ وَرُسُلِهِۦ  ۖ وَلَا تَقُولُوا ثَلٰثَةٌ  ۚ انْتَهُوا خَيْرًا لَّكُمْ  ۚ إِنَّمَا اللَّهُ إِلٰهٌ وٰحِدٌ  ۖ سُبْحٰنَهُۥٓ أَنْ يَكُونَ لَهُۥ وَلَدٌ  ۘ لَّهُۥ مَا فِى السَّمٰوٰتِ وَمَا فِى الْأَرْضِ  ۗ وَكَفٰى بِاللَّهِ وَكِيلًا
"O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a Spirit from Him...
(QS. An-Nisaa 4: Verse 171)


Now concerning the conception of Jesus


وَالَّتِىٓ أَحْصَنَتْ فَرْجَهَا فَنَفَخْنَا فِيهَا مِنْ رُّوحِنَا وَجَعَلْنٰهَا وَابْنَهَآ ءَايَةً لِّلْعٰلَمِينَ
"And the one who guarded her chastity, so We blew into her through Our angel and We made her and her son a sign for the worlds."
(QS. Al-Anbiyaa 21: Verse 91)




What did Allah blow into Mary that made her conceive Jesus? My question is directed to @Crayfish09 who said



Now have you seen now that your Quranic God claimed to have done the same.

The Quranic God blew his Spirit into Mary "without her consent " and she became pregnant with a son.


If Allah blew into Mary/Maryam and she became pregnant, Quran has told us who the father of Jesus was

Crayfish09:


What is so hard for you to comprehend in that verse? It is the same way Adam had life breathed into him by Allah after his body had been created. It is entirely different from begetting (reproduction via sexual intercourse). It's not my fault that your buybull used that word

advocatejare:


You just like copy and paste.


I'm happy you couldn't dispute the fact that the Quran acknowledges that Jesus is the Word, the Spirit of God and that God blew into Mary and Mary conceived Jesus

AntiChristian:


I don't like it...I love it especially when it breaks your back!


The same word is used to create Adam. Which Angel Jubril blew in to the sleeves of Mary!

Everyone was created by the Word of Allah, "Be" and "it is".


Was your Jesus created with words just like Adam?

Verily, the likeness of 'Iesa (Jesus) before Allah is the likeness of Adam. He created him from dust, then (He) said to him: "Be!" - and he was. (Qur'an 3:59)

advocatejare:
But it's your fault that Allah blew into the vagina of Mary abi?

Was Mary a lifeless clay like Adam that your god had to breathe into her vagina?

Or did Adam get pregnant like Mary after your god breathe into him?


Anyways I'm not surprised that your god breathe into Mary's Vagina, he has promised you a paradise of sexual parties where a Muslim man will have 72 Muslim women to be sleeping with day and night and a Muslim woman will have 72 men that will be tearing her vagina day and night too.

Crayfish09:



Your attempts to mock Islam sound very stale. The Qur'an never said life was breathed into her Vagina. It's not my fault that your god is a molester and your buybull fully explains that by describing jesus as his BEGOTTEN son.

If you want to know who a pervert is, go and read the old testament where your god ordered his army to murder thousands of innocent men, children and married women BUT to spare the virgins for him after they have all taken their share

If you need help with the verse and chapter, Holla at me

Crayfish09:



Your attempts to mock Islam sound very stale. The Qur'an never said life was breathed into her Vagina. It's not my fault that your god is a molester and your buybull fully explains that by describing jesus as his BEGOTTEN son.

If you want to know who a pervert is, go and read the old testament where your god ordered his army to murder thousands of innocent men, children and married women BUT to spare the virgins for him after they have all taken their share

If you need help with the verse and chapter, Holla at me

GrandMufti:
Jesus is the way, the truth and the life. No one can come to the father except through him

AntiChristian:


Abeg which way? Iyana Ipaja in Lagos, Sapon in Abeokuta, Asokoro in Abuja, Rumuola in PH, Mokola in Ibadan, Obinze in Owerri, Zaria in Kaduna, Agbor in Delta, Onitsha in Anambra, Konduga in Borno,...

Which way is Jesus?

advocatejare:

The way to the Holy Heaven occupied by the Holy God where holy activities would be taking place.

I'm not surprised that you don't know because even your leader, Muhammad also did not know what would become of him, he wasn't sure of his salvation.


قُلْ مَا كُنْتُ بِدْعًا مِّنَ الرُّسُلِ وَمَآ أَدْرِى مَا يُفْعَلُ بِى وَلَا بِكُمْ  ۖ إِنْ أَتَّبِعُ إِلَّا مَا يُوحٰىٓ إِلَىَّ وَمَآ أَنَا۠ إِلَّا نَذِيرٌ مُّبِينٌ
"Say, I am not something original among the messengers, nor do I know what will be done with me or with you. I only follow that which is revealed to me, and I am not but a clear warner."
(QS. Al-Ahqaf 46: Verse 9)


The best Muhammad could tell you was an imaginary filthy paradise where all you Muslims will be engaged in orgies. Each of you would have the strength of a hundred men in order to be able to sleeping with the fictional 72 wives that would be assigned to you.

Muhammad refused to comment on the fate of Muslim women anyways, I pity your women. Will they also be gangraped day and night by 72 heavenly husbands?

advocatejare:

The way to the Holy Heaven occupied by the Holy God where holy activities would be taking place.

I'm not surprised that you don't know because even your leader, Muhammad also did not know what would become of him, he wasn't sure of his salvation.

قُلْ مَا كُنْتُ بِدْعًا مِّنَ الرُّسُلِ وَمَآ أَدْرِى مَا يُفْعَلُ بِى وَلَا بِكُمْ  ۖ إِنْ أَتَّبِعُ إِلَّا مَا يُوحٰىٓ إِلَىَّ وَمَآ أَنَا۠ إِلَّا نَذِيرٌ مُّبِينٌ
"Say, I am not something original among the messengers, nor do I know what will be done with me or with you. I only follow that which is revealed to me, and I am not but a clear warner."
(QS. Al-Ahqaf 46: Verse 9)

advocatejare:

The best Muhammad could tell you was an imaginary filthy paradise where all you Muslims will be engaged in orgies. Each of you would have the strength of a hundred men in order to be able to sleeping with the fictional 72 wives that would be assigned to you.

Muhammad refused to comment on the fate of Muslim women anyways, I pity your women. Will they also be gangraped day and night by 72 heavenly husbands?

AntiChristian:


And the verse you quoted "bid'a" means "new thing" not original as you translated. Why do you like to copy and paste lies here?

AntiChristian:


So you think Muslims will change to Christianity with all these lies?

Where is the mentioin of 72 virgins in the Qur'an as you claim that only Qur'an is the word of Allah?

advocatejare:
Who is lying, your Quran and Hadiths?

Oh so the Quran is no longer the only word of Allah? So which other book is the word of Allah?

The Hadith and the Quran description of the activities in your paradise is just mere fantasies about how you will have numerous women and sexual intercourse

AbU Sa'eed Al-Khudri narrated that the Messenger of Allah said: "The least of the people of Paradise in position is the one with eighty thousand servants and seventy-two wives. He shall have a tent of pearl, peridot, and corundum set up for him, (the size of which is) like that which is between Al-Jabiyyah11 and San'a'."...
Jami At-Tirmidhi Vol 4 Book 12 Hadith 2562

Even Muhammad's followers were amazed about how they will manage to be having sex with 72 wives and as usual he gave them another fantasy

Anas narrated that the Prophet (s.a.w) said:
"The believer shall be given in paradise such and such strength in intercourse ." it was said: "O Messenger of Allah! And will he able to do that?" He said: "He will be given the strength of a hundred."
Jami At-Tirmidhi Vol 4 Book 12 Hadith 2536

Quran says you will be circulating young boys among yourselves, is that a way of Allah make plans for homosexuals who may not be interested in 72 wives?

يَطُوفُ عَلَيْهِمْ وِلْدٰنٌ مُّخَلَّدُونَ
"There will circulate among them young boys made eternal"
(QS. Al-Waaqia 56: Verse 17)

Quran lay emphasis on beautiful women with large eyes beautiful women.

قُلْ أَؤُنَبِّئُكُمْ بِخَيْرٍ مِّنْ ذٰلِكُمْ  ۚ لِلَّذِينَ اتَّقَوْا عِنْدَ رَبِّهِمْ جَنّٰتٌ تَجْرِى مِنْ تَحْتِهَا الْأَنْهٰرُ خٰلِدِينَ فِيهَا وَأَزْوٰجٌ مُّطَهَّرَةٌ وَرِضْوٰنٌ مِّنَ اللَّهِ  ۗ وَاللَّهُ بَصِيرٌۢ بِالْعِبَادِ
"Say, Shall I inform you of [something] better than that? For those who fear Allah will be gardens in the presence of their Lord beneath which rivers flow, wherein they abide eternally, and purified spouses and approval from Allah. And Allah is Seeing of [His] servants -"
(QS. Aal-i-Imraan 3: Verse 15)
وَحُورٌ عِينٌ
"And [for them are] fair women with large, [beautiful] eyes,"
(QS. Al-Waaqia 56: Verse 22)

Then the promises goes on about how Muslims in the paradise will have virgins to them.

إِنَّآ أَنْشَأْنٰهُنَّ إِنْشَآءً
"Indeed, We have produced the women of Paradise in a [new] creation"
(QS. Al-Waaqia 56: Verse 35



فَجَعَلْنٰهُنَّ أَبْكَارًا
"And made them virgins,"
(QS. Al-Waaqia 56: Verse 36)


عُرُبًا أَتْرَابًا
"Devoted [to their husbands] and of equal age,"
(QS. Al-Waaqia 56: Verse 37)


لِّأَصْحٰبِ الْيَمِينِ
"For the companions of the right [who are]"
(QS. Al-Waaqia 56: Verse 38)


وَعِنْدَهُمْ قٰصِرٰتُ الطَّرْفِ عِينٌ
"And with them will be women limiting [their] glances, with large, [beautiful] eyes,"
(QS. As-Saaffaat 37: Verse 48)

مُتَّكِئِينَ عَلٰى سُرُرٍ مَّصْفُوفَةٍ  ۖ وَزَوَّجْنٰهُمْ بِحُورٍ عِينٍ
"They will be reclining on thrones lined up, and We will marry them to fair women with large, [beautiful] eyes."
(QS. At-Tur 52: Verse 20)

كَذٰلِكَ وَزَوَّجْنٰهُمْ بِحُورٍ عِينٍ
"Thus. And We will marry them to fair women with large, [beautiful] eyes."
(QS. Ad-Dukhaan 44: Verse 54)

It's all about sex and fantasies about sex.

advocatejare:

Allah said in the Quran that Muhammad is not original, you're here crying to me.

Sahih international translation of the Quran is what I quoted for you, carry your frustrations to and meet the translator

AntiChristian:


Still looking for 72 virgins and I never see them in my Qur'an!

AntiChristian:


Sorry i forgot you are unreasonable! Anything you crucify Islam like your Lord.

Bye!

advocatejare:
But at least you can see in the Quran that virgins are reserved for you to be wanking day and night.

Muhammad whom you all agree is the best interpreter of the Quran then expatiated and explained further while he was doing Tafsir for his followers that the least of them would be entitled to 72 wives, and since the Quran has explained that those wives are untouched by both human and Jinns before, so they are virgins.

AntiChristian:


So you agree you lied there's no 72 virgins in the Qur'an!

May the liars be cursed and doomed in Hell in this world and in the next!

AntiChristian:


So you agree you lied there's no 72 virgins in the Qur'an!

May the liars be cursed and doomed in Hell in this world and in the next!

advocatejare:
Since you can't quote it, it means you lie, you know what the fate of liars is, that will be your fate if you don't repent.

AntiChristian:


You are the liar! You said our Book is only Qur'an! But you are quoting here justifying your claims with Hadith!

Coloradowater:
Please as a new convert, what's the difference between Hadit & Quran?

AntiChristian:


Hadith is the saying, deeds and tradition of the Prophet (salallahu 'alayhi wasalam).

Qur'an is the word of Allah.