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Can Bernie Sanders Really Win Against Trump by Blackfriday: 3:03pm On Feb 29, 2020
Saw this post from NYT and it really got me thinking of the possibility of a Bernie Sanders victory come Nov 3, should he win the DNC primary.

Have always had the opinion that any democratic candidate will always beat Donald Trump in the popular vote but he (Trump) have a strong claim with the college votes, especially in the mid Western States of Michigan and Wisconsin, Wich are battle ground states.

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[b]Whatever you think about Bernie Sanders as a potential president, it is wrong to dismiss his chances of winning the office. Not only does most of the available empirical evidence show Mr. Sanders defeating President Trump in the national popular vote and in the critical Midwestern states that tipped the Electoral College in 2016, but his specific electoral strengths align with changes in the composition of the country’s population in ways that could actually make him a formidable foe for the president.

Almost all of the current polling data shows Mr. Sanders winning the national popular vote. In the most recent national polls testing Democratic candidates against Mr. Trump, Mr. Sanders beat him in every single one, with margins varying from 2 percent to 6 percent. This has been the case for nearly a year now, with Mr. Sanders outpolling the president in 67 of 72 head-to-head polls since March.

As 2016 proved when Hillary Clinton defeated Mr. Trump in the popular vote by nearly three million votes, however, the Electoral College is what matters most. There, Mr. Sanders also does well, outperforming Mr. Trump in polls of the pivotal battleground states of Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. In the one poll showing significant Trump strength in Wisconsin (Quinnipiac), Mr. Sanders still fares the best of the Democratic contenders.

In addition to the polling data about how voters might act in the future, there is now the much more valuable information of actual voter behavior in the first three nominating contests, in Iowa, New Hampshire and Nevada. It is not just the fact that Mr. Sanders won the popular vote in all three states, it is how he won that portends hidden and underappreciated general election strength.

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Exit polls and precinct analyses show that Mr. Sanders runs strongest with some of the most overlooked and undervalued sectors of the population — young people and Latinos in particular. In all three early states, he received twice as much support from voters under 30 than his closest competitor. In Nevada, he received about 70 percent of the vote in the most heavily Latino precincts.

These particular strengths matter because the composition of the electorate in 2020 will be appreciably different than it was in 2016. Pew Research projects that this will be the most racially diverse electorate ever, with people of color making up fully one-third of all eligible voters. The share of eligible voters from Generation Z (18-23 year olds) will be more than twice as large in 2020 as it was in 2016 (10 percent versus 4 percent).

Notably, the expanding sectors of the population are much more progressive and pro-Democratic than their aging and white counterparts. Mrs. Clinton defeated Mr. Trump by nearly 20 points among voters under 30, and the anti-Republican tilt of that demographic was even more pronounced in 2018, when 67 percent of them voted Democratic, 35 points more than the number who voted Republican. As for Latinos, nearly two-thirds of that population consistently votes Democratic.

ImageBernie Sanders supporters in Iowa earlier this month.
Bernie Sanders supporters in Iowa earlier this month.Credit...Damon Winter/The New York Times
The implications of these developments are most significant in the specific states where the election will be most fiercely fought. In Michigan and Wisconsin, which were decided in 2016 by roughly 11,000 and 22,700 votes respectively, close to a million young people have since turned 18. Beyond the Midwestern trio of states, the demographic revolution has even more transformative potential. Mr. Trump won Arizona, for example, by 91,000 votes, and 160,000 Latinos have turned 18 in that state since then.

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To fully harness the energy from the demographic revolution, Mr. Sanders will need to strengthen his support among African-American voters who were more resistant to his candidacy when he faced Mrs. Clinton. His strong support among younger African-Americans could help, but he would be best served by choosing as his running mate an African-American with strong electoral appeal, such as Stacey Abrams, the former minority leader of the Georgia House of Representatives who received more African-American votes in a statewide election than anyone not named Barack Obama.[i][/i][/b]
Re: Can Bernie Sanders Really Win Against Trump by Lawgod247: 3:08pm On Feb 29, 2020
dunno
Re: Can Bernie Sanders Really Win Against Trump by tsephanyah(f): 3:12pm On Feb 29, 2020
Yes. if the Democrats establishment didn't use super delegate to rig him out... The millennials are feed up with issues like health care, immigration, wars, and many other stuff
Re: Can Bernie Sanders Really Win Against Trump by Daverytimes(m): 3:37pm On Feb 29, 2020
He is a populist just like trump, but unlike trump he has a message that people are buying into. He can definitely win.
Re: Can Bernie Sanders Really Win Against Trump by Blackfriday: 7:21pm On Feb 29, 2020
tsephanyah:
Yes. if the Democrats establishment didn't use super delegate to rig him out... The millennials are feed up with issues like health care, immigration, wars, and many other stuff
ya Sanders has a cult like fellowship among millennials, and the number of registered voters among this age bracket has grown significantly since 2016.

But you know most Democrats see him as a socialist, this will be a strong weapon for Trump, should Sanders win the primary and that is one thing they are all don't want, even Warren who is a progressive like sander, disagree with his socialist status.

Now the question is, will a huge turnout among the millennials, black and Hispanic voters, moderate Democrats and moderate Republicans, independents help flip the swing States in his favor?

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Re: Can Bernie Sanders Really Win Against Trump by Blackfriday: 7:21pm On Feb 29, 2020
Lawgod247:
dunno
lol
Re: Can Bernie Sanders Really Win Against Trump by Blackfriday: 7:26pm On Feb 29, 2020
Daverytimes:
He is a populist just like trump, but unlike trump he has a message that people are buying into. He can definitely win.
let's see how that turns out. I don't really see him winning SC primarily tonight but the super PAC should be a defining factor for him, if he pulls that off, then I will really have to start taking him serious as a real contender against Trump.
Re: Can Bernie Sanders Really Win Against Trump by panafrican(m): 11:51am On Mar 01, 2020
To win a US presidential election nowadays you must be bold enough to run an unconventional political campaign that can energize people and address one of the many elephants America has in the room.
Some of those elephants the establishment ( both Democrat and Republican ) doesn't want to talk about are: :
1.Student loan debt (more than a trillion dollars),

2.The skyrocketing cost of living :check how much it cost to rent a one- bedroom apartment in New York City, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Washington DC, San Diego, Boston , etc.

3. The increasing gap between rich and poor. It is appalling there are so many homeless people in the world richest country.

4. The extremely poor health care policy. Millions of Americans are being crashed by co payments even if they have health insurance.
The cost is worse for the 40 million Americans or more who don't have any medical coverage.

5. Medical billing. Hospitals are greedy like casinos or drug dealers .they overcharge patients and no - one holds those hospitals accountable.
The best way to go should have been government owned hospitals with all staff ( doctors, nurses, lab technicians, etc.) subjected to a pay scale no matter what, just like many other federal, state or local civil servants. This will cut the cost.

6. The racist and xenophobic culture that targets non- European immigrants and the arrogance of LGBT rights groups.

7. The warmongering industry that uses misinformation to purposely drag America into
unnecessary wars without any exit policy.
( That war industry connives with radical Muslim groups to create chaos all over the world especially in Africa).

Etc.

Bernie Sanders is courageous enough to confront
some of those issues .And he is doing it with what people want : passion and energy, no flip - flop .

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Re: Can Bernie Sanders Really Win Against Trump by rottennaija(m): 7:13am On Mar 04, 2020
panafrican:
To win a US presidential election nowadays you must be bold enough to run an unconventional political campaign that can energize people and address one of the many elephants America has in the room.
Some of those elephants the establishment ( both Democrat and Republican ) doesn't want to talk about are: :
1.Student loan debt (more than a trillion dollars),

2.The skyrocketing cost of living :check how much it cost to rent a one- bedroom apartment in New York City, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Washington DC, San Diego, Boston , etc.

3. The increasing gap between rich and poor. It is appalling there are so many homeless people in the world richest country.

4. The extremely poor health care policy. Millions of Americans are being crashed by co payments even if they have health insurance.
The cost is worse for the 40 million Americans or more who don't have any medical coverage.

5. Medical billing. Hospitals are greedy like casinos or drug dealers .they overcharge patients and no - one holds those hospitals accountable.
The best way to go should have been government owned hospitals with all staff ( doctors, nurses, lab technicians, etc.) subjected to a pay scale no matter what, just like many other federal, state or local civil servants. This will cut the cost.

6. The racist and xenophobic culture that targets non- European immigrants and the arrogance of LGBT rights groups.

7. The warmongering industry that uses misinformation to purposely drag America into
unnecessary wars without any exit policy.
( That war industry connives with radical Muslim groups to create chaos all over the world especially in Africa).

Etc.

Bernie Sanders is courageous enough to confront
some of those issues .And he is doing it with what people want : passion and energy, no flip - flop .


Guy, you live there?
Re: Can Bernie Sanders Really Win Against Trump by panafrican(m): 6:55pm On Mar 04, 2020
rottennaija:

Guy, you live there?
Read the news.
America has a huge influence on international affairs and also on the domestic affairs of many countries ( just see what happened in Libya)
for that reason one better be informed on the issues .
See point 7.

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