How did Oduduwa fall from the sky?
With his head, hands, legs or mouth?
Was he pushed (by devil, God) or did he fall of his own volition?
What language did he speak when he first landed on earth?
Did he land with a wife or alone? If alone, how did he give birth to his offspring?
Did he not meet people (for e.g., Binis, Igbos) already occupying the land when he landed?

An inquiring mind wants to know.

You've given enough laugh. Time to run

The Yoruba creation story, like many around the world, is symbolic in nature, and was designed to explain complex cosmic occurences to peasant communities.

He used a parachute- we yoruba are cool like that

omongbatib:

How did Oduduwa fall from the sky?
With his head, hands, legs or mouth?
Was he pushed (by devil, God) or did he fall of his own volition?
What language did he speak when he first landed on earth?
Did he land with a wife or alone? If alone, how did he give birth to his offspring?
Did he not meet people (for e.g., Binis, Igbos) already occupying the land when he landed?
An inquiring mind wants to know.

Suffice it to say that the Igbos have found themselves in Nigeria and indeed they are Nigerians like every other tribe. This tend to support the claim of an elderly Mbaise man from Imo State of Nigeria, whose name remain anonymous, in a book by Dr. Elizabeth Isichei titled “History of the Igbo People”. The elderly Mbaise man maintained that the Igbos did not come from anywhere. But the fact remains that the Igbos must come from somewhere beyond the limited knowledge of the Mbaise elder. Another claim seek to establish that the ancestors of the Igbos originated from the area they inhabit, presently known as Awka-Okigwe. Hence, the communities known as Umu-Nri regard themselves as the descendants of a hero called Eri, who along with his wife, Nnamaku, was sent down from the sky by Chukwu, the Igbo supreme God. I must confess that this claim sounds just like a fairy tale. Even a ten-year-old child would never believe this story.

omongbatib:

How did Oduduwa fall from the sky?
With his head, hands, legs or mouth?
Was he pushed (by devil, God) or did he fall of his own volition?
What language did he speak when he first landed on earth?
Did he land with a wife or alone? If alone, how did he give birth to his offspring?
Did he not meet people (for e.g., Binis, Igbos) already occupying the land when he landed?
An inquiring mind wants to know.

If I were you i would be asking the following questions:

How did  Eri and Nnamaku fall from the sky?
With his head, hands, legs or mouth?
Was he pushed (by devil, God) or did he fall of his own volition?
What language did he speak when he first landed on earth?
Did he land with a wife or alone? If alone, how did he give birth to his offspring?
Did he not meet people (for e.g., Binis, Yorubas) already occupying the land when he landed?
An inquiring mind wants to know.

strangerf:

Suffice it to say that the Igbos have found themselves in Nigeria and indeed they are Nigerians like every other tribe. This tend to support the claim of an elderly Mbaise man from Imo State of Nigeria, whose name remain anonymous, in a book by Dr. Elizabeth Isichei titled “History of the Igbo People”. The elderly Mbaise man maintained that the Igbos did not come from anywhere. But the fact remains that the Igbos must come from somewhere beyond the limited knowledge of the Mbaise elder. Another claim seek to establish that the ancestors of the Igbos originated from the area they inhabit, presently known as Awka-Okigwe. Hence, the communities known as Umu-Nri regard themselves as the descendants of a hero called Eri, who along with his wife, Nnamaku, was sent down from the sky by Chukwu, the Igbo supreme God. I must confess that this claim sounds just like a fairy tale. Even a ten-year-old child would never believe this story.

That one na fabu, later-day claim by some disgruntled Yoruba-wannnabe Igbo (if at all you are not faking it). I did not study that in my history class. But I was taught that Oduduwa fell from the sky. See the difference?

The myth of Igbo evolution
By ONWUKWE ALAEZI
Monday, April 6, 2009


Photo: Sun News Publishing
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This is a reaction to the article titled “Igbo were on Earth before Adam was created” by Professor Acholonu, published in Saturday SUN dated March 21, 2009 page 38. There is no doubt in my mind that what the Igbos (the Ebos, Igbos or Ibos) of Nigeria need most in their present state of political and socio-economic deprivation and marginalization in the country that they have contributed more than any other ethnic group to build is Professors, intellectuals and the like who will write on the said Igbo problems and the way out, not those like Professor Acholnu writing on Igbo legendry of widest imagination, ridiculously saying that “Igbo were on earth before Adam”;

“Adam was actually the scion of a people who lived before he was made” and that” these people were the progenitors of the Igbo”; Adam was a test tube baby, that Adam was not created but rather recreated; Adam and eve were half earthling, half god; Egypt rather than Israel is the blessed land; the god who created Adam was a Nephilim; Enki mated secretly with the wife of Lamech and Noah was born; and other stuff like that too bizarre and frivolous to occupy the mind of child in a 21st century science and technology driven society talk less of a an intellectual of the highest order. The professor, to prove her case quoted Enuma Elish, an epic story of ancient Babylon and the Lost Book of Enki, This brings to mind the controversial ‘sky-being’ theory of the origin of the Igbo by Professor Afigbo. Professor Afigbo’s legend is that the Igbo fell from the sky and landed in Eastern Nigeria where they have dwelt ever since.

Professor Afigbo’s main argument hinges on the presumptions that Igbo as a Negro race is “a ‘sky being’ for he descended from the sky in the first place” (Afigbo, 2001:24), that “it was during this phase of Igbo experience (i.e., during the universalistic period) that the basic framework of what we know as Igbo culture and civilisation was laid” (p. 25), that “the experience which makes a segment of the migrants of 6000 years ago Igbo was developed in situ in what is today Igboland. It was not brought in by them from wherever…Thus any similarities, real or imagined, found between their experience and the experience of any other population aggregate in any other part of the world is accidental… a fatal blow at the root of the hypothesis of Hebrew origin of the Igbo (p.9).

Actually, the issue of the Hebrew origin of the Igbo is now a known fact; it is not a fairy tale in the moon light like that of the Igbo falling down from the sky to settle on earth or the Igbo being half earthling and half god existing on earth before Adam and even being partakers in getting Adam into existence as a test tube baby. It is a truism that the Jewish origin of the Ibos (Igbos) of Nigeria is as real as the Oduduwa (of ancient Babylon) origin of the Yorubas or the Saudi Arabian origin of the Hausa-Fulanis of Nigeria, without, of course any prejudice to their (the Ibos’) full Nigerian citizenship.

“The ‘history of the history’ of the search for the Lost Tribes of Israel actually makes fascinating reading in itself. The list of candidates is long, particularly since the 17th century, both of groups claiming themselves to be the Lost Tribes and groups identified by travelers or researchers as those Tribes. Some of the better known claims have been: the Ethiopians; the Ibos of Nigeria; the Berbers of North Africa; various Armenian, Afgan, and Persian groups of the Black and Caspian Sea regions; the Chiang-Min of Tibet; the Khazars; and the Karaites.

Researchers have claimed to locate the Tribes all over the globe: the Masai of southeast Africa; the Yemenis; the Abyssinians; the Ganges Indians; the Kareens of Burma; the Shindai tribe of Japan;…”
Every Igbo intellectual interested in self-realization and self-actualization of the Igbo through ancestral cultural awareness should first avail himself with the facts of the Hebrew origin of the Igbo as contained in the above quotation and many more others written by the Jews themselves about the lost tribes of Israel in all the four corners of the earth, including, of course, Nigeria and the Biblically predicted rediscovery and restoration in the last days. Such knowledge will serve as an impetus to the much needed ancestral and cultural awareness of the Ibos – a missing link in the solution of the problem with the Ibos (Igbos) of Nigeria.

T[b]he knowledge of the origin of the Ibos, may not immediately remove the pangs of Igbo living under the psychology and burden of defeat or automatically change the status of Igbo society in identity crisis, socio-cultural disorientations, political paralysis and economic impoverishment, and place them back in their former lead position in politics, education, commerce and industry; but surely it will serve as a major way forward; [/b]as a psychological cushion against which the average Ibos (Igbos) will lean to better understand and then launch themselves as effectively as, if not more effectively than, their counterpart major tribes in Nigeria – the Hausas and Yorubas - into national and international politics, and be on the right track to correctly deal with the above highlighted Ibo nightmare in Nigeria as well as the usual complexities of the country’s socio-economic and political game, in which the Igbo has always been the pitiful loser.

Assuming that the legends of Afigbo and Acholonu stand then it stands to reason that the people being referred to in Afigbo’s work could be the same godlike people who existed before Adam, according Acholonu, people that I believe are just the aborigines of Iboland (normal human beings, not sky beings or half god, half human) - the Allokoo, Ituri, Kwa and Pigmy races with whom the exiled Nigerian Hebrews (Ibos) lived and intermarried on arriving from the Lake Chad area. And, according to Jewish custom, as many of these aborigines as were properly married into the Nigerian Hebrew families and abided by the Jewish customs as practised by the Ibos automatically became Jews too.

The challenge that these narratives pose for all Igbo intellectuals are (1) more research on the origin the Igbo. However, there is none denying the fact that there were aborigines of Ibo nation. Yoruba nation and Hausa/Fulani nation before the different people that now made up the Igbo, the Yoruba and the Hausa migrated from the Middle East. The Yorubas have their own story of Oduduwa descending from ancient Babylon to settle finally in Ife before spreading to the parts of Yorubaland, the Hausas coming from Saudi Arabia to conquer and settle among the aborigines of Northern Nigeria and parts of Western Nigeria.

These aborigines were known for their different legendaries of very wild guess which had no bearing on truth or any verifiable assumption – some said their ancestors together with their wives came from water to inhabit their land; some claimed their ancestors were once spirit beings who lived under the earth but were forced by one strange reason or the other to abandon the spirit world beneath the earth to come and live in their present place of abode; others claimed their ancestors were sky beings or spirits who for some strange reasons landed with thunder and lightening, or quietly with the wind unnoticed to their present places of abode, and so on.

It is not surprising that the Igbo aborigines had their own story of descending to earth from the sky, just like the other aborigines among the other 250 ethnic groups of Nigeria. What is surprising is that Igbo intellectuals should now make their own fairy tale/legendary origin a theme for serious discussion in the present scientific and technological driven age that call for identification and solution of human problems through scientific methods.

If the effort of these intellectuals are on tracing the origin of the Igbo among known people of the world, like the Hausa did among the Saudis, rather than among the gods of the sky or the before Adam creatures or the Amphins of Noah age, I would not be worried. In treating a similar matter just in passing in my book Ibo Exodus, I acknowledged the existence of the aborigines of Igboland, the Allookos, the Ituris and the pigmies many of whom are now extinct or migrated out of the then Ibo nation and pointed out that the remaining few of the aborigines have now been interwoven into the Ebo, Ibo and now Igbo who came with much more advanced knowledge and civilisation from Israel via Egypt to live among them.

The fact that the Nigerian Hebrews (Ebo, Ibo and now Igbo) migrated from Israel into Nigeria to live with and get assimilated into the culture of a group of Negroes who according to their mythology and religious belief fell from the sky and migrated into Southern Nigeria some 6000 years ago (Afigbo, 2001) - a story that all Jews in Judaism and Christianity alike will regard as an anti-scriptural African legendary of wild guess. Such a story is a serious antithesis to the Holy Scriptures of Israel, the Torah and the Bible. To ignore these Holy Scriptures is to ignore or even ignore God, the source, the origin and the fountainhead of all lives on earth.

However, there is the need to re-examine the Afigbo’s story of the Igbo falling from the sky and settling here in Eastern Nigeria origin of fact the aborigines of Igboland, the history of whom people like Acholonu is yet to be properly put in its correct perspective and of whom Afigbo referred to as ‘sky beings’ has been enriched by some words and names, like Ivite (Ivrit), Eri, Asa, Nebo, Nara, Uzzi, Ono, etc., which the exiled Nigerian Hebrews (Ibos) brought with them from Israel some three thousand years ago; and finally the need to further examine the Nigerian Hebrew (Ibo) case in the context of the World Jewry.

^^^
Still means nothing. Nobody was taught that an Igbo forebearer fell from the sky, unlike Yoruba

You must have attended "Eleweeran Primary School"

strangerf:

If I were you i would be asking the following questions:

How did [b]Eri and Nnamaku fall from the sky?[/b]With his head, hands, legs or mouth?
Was he pushed (by devil, God) or did he fall of his own volition?
What language did he speak when he first landed on earth?
Did he land with a wife or alone? If alone, how did he give birth to his offspring?
Did he not meet people (for e.g., Binis, Yorubas) already occupying the land when he landed?
An inquiring mind wants to know.

This same way Oduduwa escaped from jail in hell and landed head first but slightly different for Eri and Nnamaku.

Dede1:


This same way Oduduwa escaped from jail in hell and landed head first but slightly different for Eri and Nnamaku.

Do you care to elaborate?
He must have landed leg first, resulting in paralysis
Could that be the reason why we did not hear much about him?

strangerf:

Do you care to elaborate?
He must have landed leg first, resulting in paralysis
Could that be the reason why we did not hear much about him?

ROTFL!

Dede1:


This same way Oduduwa escaped from jail in hell and landed head first but slightly different for Eri and Nnamaku.

Legend has it that he actually Descended from the heavens via a chain let down to Ile Ife, very smart man

Oduduwa was not like the arrogant mofo of yours Eri and Nnamaku who jumped down from heaven, got paralyzed, and had to be helped up by strong Yoruba offspring of Oduduwa

strangerf:

Do you care to elaborate?
He must have landed leg first, resulting in paralysis
Could that be the reason why we did not hear much about him?

No, I do not care to elaborate because I made an educated guess. You and your forbearers are the prognosticators of the foolish fairy tale about Oduduwa’s midnight escape from a jail in hell. You are so out of touch to insinuate a figure that landed head first had better surviving chance than the one that land leg first.

strangerf:

Legend has it that he actually Descended from the heavens via a chain let down to Ile Ife, very smart man

Oduduwa was not like the arrogant mofo of yours Eri and Nnamaku who jumped down from heaven, got paralyzed, and had to be helped up by strong Yoruba offspring of Oduduwa

The last time I checked though, the object known as “Chain” is very earthly. Does this suggest Oduduwa fairy tale was another conjectural crap from that part of universe?

Dede1:

No, I do not care to elaborate because I made an educated guess. You and your forbearers are the prognosticators of the foolish fairy tale about Oduduwa’s midnight escape from a jail in hell. You are so out of touch to insinuate a figure that landed head first had better surviving chance than the one that land leg first.

Well the skull, and especially the temple area, is way stronger than any other bone in the body.
If he landed head first as you foolishly postulated, Ibo style, he prolly landed on his temple area; hence, his greater chance at survival than your idioti fore father who out of ignorance, Which he seems to have bequeathed you, landed leg first.

Moreover, unlike your nincompoop fore father who jumped from heaven after escaping from jail , Oduduwa came down via chain let down

Dede1:


The last time I checked though, the object known as “Chain” is very earthly. Does this suggest Oduduwa fairy tale was another conjectural crap from that part of universe?

An example of my people's ingenuity:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS-59lMs03s

strangerf:

An example of my people's ingenuity:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS-59lMs03s

Lemme help with that.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS-59lMs03s?fs=1&hl=en_US[/flash]

Ileke-IdI:

Lemme help with that.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS-59lMs03s?fs=1&hl=en_US[/flash]

Thanks!
Cant stop watching it
Very condescending of those Oyinbos

omongbatib:

How did Oduduwa fall from the sky?
With his head, hands, legs or mouth?
Was he pushed (by devil, God) or did he fall of his own volition?
What language did he speak when he first landed on earth?
Did he land with a wife or alone? If alone, how did he give birth to his offspring?
Did he not meet people (for e.g., Binis, Igbos) already occupying the land when he landed?

An inquiring mind wants to know.

There are 2 possible answers to this.

Some claim he landed with the head and that made him go psycho. This explains the genes that have been transferred to his offsprings like Becomerich, Musiwa and Bkbabe.

Others like Strangerf claim he was let down from the sky with a chain. I tend to beleive this aspect as only criminals and mental patients are likely to be put in chains. This explains why Oduduwa's children always tend to dip their hand in the public till among other crimes; Tafa Balogun, Adenika Grange and Bode George being recent examples.

Yet others claim he was among Lucifer's squad that was cast down from heaven for plotting a cup against the Almighty. Little wonder they have always participated in failed coups. Ask General Diya (the weeping general) or Awo (who committed suicide cos his coup plot was exposed.

Very nice video! But why the one-upmanship? Yoruba culture should be celebrated, but that does not mean it superior to other cultures. Igbos have famous Igbo-Ukwu roped pots, which were created by the earliest smithers of copper and its alloys in West Africa.

What I like the best are actually the Benin Bronze sculptures. I think these are truly works of art!

Ochi_Agha:

Very nice video! But why the one-upmanship? Yoruba culture should be celebrated, but that does not mean it superior to other cultures. Igbos have famous Igbo-Ukwu roped pots, which were created by the earliest smithers of copper and its alloys in West Africa.

Yeah, but that was developed years after Ife head was discovered, and according to oral tradition, prior to Yoruba art, there was nothing of that quality and ingenuity in Africa. There is no doubt that whatever the Igbos and Benins achieved, it was done with the help and tutelage of the Yorubas. Now, that does not necessarily make them superior, but it is something to think about

You really cannot compare 14th century BC creation to  9th century AD creation, can you?

strangerf:

Yeah, but that was developed years after Ife head was discovered, and according to oral tradition, prior to Yoruba art, there was nothing of that quality and ingenuity in Africa. There is no doubt that whatever the Igbos and Benins achieved, it was done with the help and tutelage of the Yorubas. Now, that does not necessarily make them superior, but it is something to think about

You really cannot compare 14th century BC creation to  9th century AD creation, can you?

You are actually wrong. Igbo-Ukwu is older than both Ife and Benin.

"The archaeological site at Igbo-Ukwu in modern-day Nigeria offers us great insight into the history of the country. The most critical of these contributions lay in the radiocarbon date for the artefacts from Igbo-Ukwu, the ninth-century CE, and the association of the artefacts with an extinct Igbo group, the Nri, and the expression of the artistic magnificence and technological skill related with the finds.[b] Since the above date made Igbo-Ukwu about three or four centuries earlier than the date established for Ife and Benin. [/b]In any case, it is clear from available evidence that the [b]Nri type of state that assembled the material culture recovered from Igbo-Ukwu is older than the Ife or Benin or Idah type of state in these parts. [/b]From the study of the archaeological remains, it became apparent not only that the Benin and Ife bronzes have little in common, but that the bronzes of Igbo-Ukwu, as well as others of the Benue valley, are independent of both Ife and Benin in style, notion, and implementation."

http://archaeologycurrentevents.com/archaeological-sites-igboukwu-4613585a

Ochi_Agha:

What I like the best are actually the Benin Bronze sculptures. I think these are truly works of art!

Please put everything into context

I love modern airplanes, but I have nothing but absolute respect for the Wright brothers, they are the REAL geniuses that started it all.

Same can be said about the Yorubas. As the documentary showed, the Yorubas exported their technology to other parts of Africa, including Benin.

strangerf:

Please put everything into context

I love modern airplanes, but I have nothing but absolute respect for the Wright brothers, they are the REAL geniuses that started it all.

Same can be said about the Yorubas. As the documentary showed, the Yorubas exported their technology to other parts of Africa, including Benin.

I do not mean any disrespect. However, compared to both the Igbo and Ife sculptures, Benin was in a league of its own. I have always been in awe of what the Benin Empire was able to accomplish. And this is from an unbiased perspective. I just love everything about ancient Benin Culture. I have this same respect for the Asante Confederacy as well and the Sokoto Caliphate.

strangerf:

Well the skull, and especially the temple area, is way stronger than any other bone in the body.
If he landed head first as you foolishly postulated, Ibo style, he prolly landed on his temple area; hence, his greater chance at survival than your idioti fore father who out of ignorance, Which he seems to have bequeathed you, landed leg first.

Moreover, unlike your nincompoop fore father who jumped from heaven after escaping from jail , Oduduwa came down via chain let down

Pal, I must say that your intellectual deterioration is latent in nature and irreversible. It is widely known that stup.idity can not be fixed. If this silly object is an example of your peoples’ ingenuity, may I ask why your retarded lineages have jettisoned the facial mutilation as depicted on the object?

is OP really serious?
ever heard of something called mythology? most civilizations have their own version my friend.

if you are in the west, they will teach you about zeus and olympus etc. same way we yorubas have oduduwa etc.
most civilizations have their myths and gods.

Ochi_Agha:

I do not mean any disrespect. However, compared to both the Igbo and Ife sculptures, Benin was in a league of its own. I have always been in awe of what the Benin Empire was able to accomplish. And this is from an unbiased perspective. I just love everything about ancient Benin Culture. I have this same respect for the Asante Confederacy as well and the Sokoto Caliphate.

This is what an independent observer had to say:

Ife: The naturalistic works of sculpture created by the artists of the city of Ife,
which arose in the southwestern forested part of Nigeria about 800 CE,
are among the most remarkable in art history.

Not just in Africa, but in history. FYI, Ife arts rivaled that of the Greeks. Simply stated, we put Africa on the map of the world!

strangerf:

This is what an independent observer had to say:

Ife: The naturalistic works of sculpture created by the artists of the city of Ife,
which arose in the southwestern forested part of Nigeria about 800 CE,
are among the most remarkable in art history.

Not just in Africa, but in history. FYI, Ife arts rivaled that of the Greeks. Simply stated, we put Africa on the map of the world!

I wouldn't go that far if I was you. Ancient Kemet (Egypt) put Africa on the map, followed by Nubia and the ancient kingdom of Axum. A few kingdoms and empires that are the oldest in the world. And that was one person's view.  Historians like to exaggerate from time to time. Do not get me wrong, the Ife sculptures are one of a kind. But to say that they put Africa on the map is quite laughable.

Ochi_Agha:

You are actually wrong. Igbo-Ukwu is older than both Ife and Benin.

"The archaeological site at Igbo-Ukwu in modern-day Nigeria offers us great insight into the history of the country. The most critical of these contributions lay in the radiocarbon date for the artefacts from Igbo-Ukwu, the ninth-century CE, and the association of the artefacts with an extinct Igbo group, the Nri, and the expression of the artistic magnificence and technological skill related with the finds.[b] Since the above date made Igbo-Ukwu about three or four centuries earlier than the date established for Ife and Benin. [/b]In any case, it is clear from available evidence that the [b]Nri type of state that assembled the material culture recovered from Igbo-Ukwu is older than the Ife or Benin or Idah type of state in these parts. [/b]From the study of the archaeological remains, it became apparent not only that the Benin and Ife bronzes have little in common, but that the bronzes of Igbo-Ukwu, as well as others of the Benue valley, are independent of both Ife and Benin in style, notion, and implementation."

http://archaeologycurrentevents.com/archaeological-sites-igboukwu-4613585a

I don't think so