In Part 1 of this study, we saw that there is a unique seven-year period on God’s calendar called “the Tribulation,” and it has specific purposes. Everything God does has a purpose. Nothing is haphazard. We saw in Scripture that the Tribulation will be a time of God’s dealing with His people, Israel, and preparing them for the return of their Messiah and King. It will also be a day of punishment for those in all nations who have rejected His pardon for sin and offer of salvation.

But what about the Church, the Body of Christ—during this period?

What will happen with Christians?

There is great speculation today about that. I believe the Lord has specifically promised in His Word to keep the Church from the Tribulation.

When we see what it will be like, we understand why. Revelation chapters 6-19 describes it.

Let's see
Revelation 6:15-17

15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

Notice[b] “the great day of His wrath.”[/b] Paul’s first letter to the believers in Thessalonica also refers to it:

1Thel 1:9-10
9 For they themselves shew of us what manner of entering in we had unto you, and how ye turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God;
10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.

The “Great day of His wrath” (the Tribulation) is coming, and what are the saints doing? Waiting for His Son. That’s what we’re to be doing right now, today—waiting for Jesus, “who delivers us from the wrath to come.”

Let's see 1 Thel 5:1-4
1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

The Lord is saying that the day of wrath pertains to the unsaved but not to those who are saved. He continues.

1thel 5:9-11
9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.
11 Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do.


God has not appointed us to wrath

Wrath is not what God has in mind for His church. Do you think the Lord wants to pour His vials of wrath out upon His bride, the Church? Oh, indeed it is true that our Lord allows us to go through tribulation. “In this world ye shall have tribulation.” It is true that the Lord allows the devil to torment us and the wicked to persecute us. Because we have our human frames, we suffer sickness and woe. But it is not true that almighty God would pour out His wrath upon His beloved. “God did not appoint us to wrath….therefore comfort each other.” The thought of our Lord rescuing us is a comforting, edifying thought.

You will find as you study the Bible that before God brings judgment, He takes His people out. God took Lot out of Sodom before He incinerated that wicked place. God put Noah in the ark before He sent the flood. God took Rahab out of Jericho before that city was destroyed. There is a principle that God takes His own out before He pours out His wrath and judgment because He has not appointed us to wrath. I believe the Lord is going to take His people out.


Indirect “Date-Setting”

If it is true that the Church goes through the Tribulation, then we would be able to put Jesus’ Second Coming on a calendar. All we we’d have to do is wait until the middle of the Great Tribulation when antichrist appears in the temple claiming to be God, and count down 3½ years—exactly 1,260 days—and Jesus would return.

If I believe Christians are going through the Tribulation, then I cannot be expecting Jesus Christ to come at any moment. This contradicts Jesus’ clear statement recorded by Matthew and Mark:

“[i]But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only…. Watch therefore, for you do not know what hour your Lord is coming…. Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.” [/i]Matthew 24:36, 42, 44

[i]But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Take heed, watch and pray; for you do not know when the time is…. And what I say to you, I say to all: Watch!” [/i]Mark 13:32-33, 37

Jesus may come at any moment; but those who believe that the Church is going through the Tribulation tell us that the coming of our Lord is not imminent and we are not to be looking for our Lord.
In conclusion,
If I'm not looking for my Lord, if I'm not waiting for the Son from heaven, if I'm not looking for that blessed hope and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Savior Jesus Christ, then right now it ceases to be a blessed hope to me. Knowing I’m going through the Tribulation, I would say “the ones who die are the fortunate ones.” I would say, “even so, come coffin.”

Let's be Careful of what we listen to, take in us and say with our Tongue! There is so much Power in the Tongue! And You might Just Decide your fate with your Tongue!

May GOD ALMIGHTY open our Eyes of Understanding

Jokerman
donnie

Amen

Amen

The church has not been appointed to wrath so the church won't witness tribulation

Righteousness89:
Jokerman
donnie

Bro, i hope you know that everything you wrote in this your part two, you didn't write how the church will be taken before the tribulation and if you say it's through rapture then I ask you the rapture mentioned in revelation where the bible talked about the elects being taken up in the middle of the tribulation, will it be a second rapture? I need answers to this

Crunchyg2:

Bro, i hope you know that everything you wrote in this your part two, you didn't write how the church will be taken before the tribulation and if you say it's through rapture then I ask you the rapture mentioned in revelation where the bible talked about the elects being taken up in the middle of the tribulation, will it be a second rapture? I need answers to this

Good question

If you don't know who ISOLELE (Israel) is, you are sure to misfire again even in your calculation of the so-called seven year tribulation. So-called because the REAL children of ISRAEL have been suffering tribulation for centuries now. We are expecting our king to return and execute vengeance on our enemies, the heathen nations.

Even your preparation for such a period will be flawed because you will be singing the Christian song which attracts the wrath and judgement of YAH.

And Yes, the true land of ISOLELE (ISRAEL) is below the Sarah-Haran (Sahara) desert from the River of Egypt (Nile) to the great river Euphrates (Niger). We have been fooled for centuries, it's time to wake up now or perish. Severe judgements are coming on our people first, so we will repent, then it will fall on the nations.

That your stupid rapture doctrine is useless, no one is escaping to nowhere until our King shows up. Then we will be beamed up for final destruction of this civilization. Afterwards, the heavenly Kingdom will be right here on earth. No white Jesus worshipping negro will enter.

petra1:


The church has not been appointed to wrath so the church won't witness tribulation

What will catch many Christians is whether or not God has counted them as his church.

Crunchyg2:

Bro, i hope you know that everything you wrote in this your part two, you didn't write how the church will be taken before the tribulation and if you say it's through rapture then I ask you the rapture mentioned in revelation where the bible talked about the elects being taken up in the middle of the tribulation, will it be a second rapture? I need answers to this

My Brother Everything you need to know about the Rapture is right there. There is a Part 1 before a Part 2..
Go through the both and you will see all you need to see

1 Thessalonians 4:17

Righteousness89:


My Brother Everything you need to know about the Rapture is right there. There is a Part 1 before a Part 2..
Go through the both and you will see all you need to see

1 Thessalonians 4:17

Even in part one you didn't specify how the believers will be taken and also whether it's after or before. I have a big clarification about this that I want to share with you, but that can only happen if you are ready to indulge me

Even the Lord Jesus in Matthew 24:31... Talked about the elect going through the tribulation before the Rapture of the saints!

Many people will enter into the kingdom of God through the tribulation as Mathyrs, those that remain will be raptured prior to the second coming of Christ to establish his Millennial reign

byinks:


What will catch many Christians is whether or not God has counted them as his church.

I don't know why folks are liking your post.
Firstly if you're a christian you're part of the church.

Secondly the question is not about the rapture of individual Christians but rather about the sequence of events in Gods calendar between the different schools of thoughts : i.e

1.Pre Tribulation Rapture
2.Mid Tribulation Rapture
3.Post Tribulation Rapture

@Righteousness89 You are totally wrong.

I can see that you have quoted verses which speak of God saving us from wrath. What you have failed to see is that the wrath Christians are saved from is God's own wrath.

What about the wrath of the Antichrist? Christians are not saved from that one. We will be here to face his wrath because we will reject his mark.

Now, to make it clear to you. First comes the Antichrist and his wrath against Christians. That is called the Great Tribulation.

After he has persecuted Christians with many killed, Jesus will come and save the remnant. Then God will pour out his wrath on those who remain on Earth due to having the mark of the Antichrist.

Clearly, you have mistaken the wrath of God for the wrath of the Antichrist.

Christians will be around during the tribulation which is Satan's wrath.

alBHAGDADI:


@Righteousness89 You are totally wrong.

I can see that you have quoted verses which speak of God saving us from wrath. What you have failed to see is that the wrath Christians are saved from is God's own wrath.

What about the wrath of the Antichrist? Christians are not saved from that one. We will be here to face his wrath because we will reject his mark.

Now, to make it clear to you. First comes the Antichrist and his wrath against Christians. That is called the Great Tribulation.

After he has persecuted Christians with many killed, Jesus will come and save the remnant. Then God will pour out his wrath on those who remain on Earth due to having the mark of the Antichrist.

Clearly, you have mistaken the wrath of God for the wrath of the Antichrist.

Christians will be around during the tribulation which is Satan's wrath.

I totally agree. And that is saying something considering our previous engagements.

I find it hard to understand how very clear statements in the Bible can be so easily dismissed in favor of the fantasies that people prefer.

Righteousness89:

Arguing Scriptures is the last thing you willsee from me..
It can't change what is written!
All I have to say to you is this!
As you Have said , I say Amen to it for you and your likes..

As a Man thinks in his heart! So is he!
You will be Here For the Great Tribulation!

Aurevior

lol...

alBHAGDADI:


. We will be here to face his wrath because we will reject his mark.

Christians will be around during the tribulation which is Satan's wrath.

You're right.


YOU WILL BE AROUND TO FACE HIS WRATH DURING THE GREAT TRIBULATION, not me.

alBHAGDADI:


@Righteousness89 You are totally wrong.

I can see that you have quoted verses which speak of God saving us from wrath. What you have failed to see is that the wrath Christians are saved from is God's own wrath.

What about the wrath of the Antichrist? Christians are not saved from that one. We will be here to face his wrath because we will reject his mark.

Now, to make it clear to you. First comes the Antichrist and his wrath against Christians. That is called the Great Tribulation.

After he has persecuted Christians with many killed, Jesus will come and save the remnant. Then God will pour out his wrath on those who remain on Earth due to having the mark of the Antichrist.

Clearly, you have mistaken the wrath of God for the wrath of the Antichrist.

Christians will be around during the tribulation which is Satan's wrath.

Antimashiah (Antichrist) wrath is not against Christians. They are partners together in damnation. They have worked together for centuries to enslave the chosen people of YAH. The Israelites beyond the rivers of Ethiopia (Zeph 3:10) below the Sarah-Haran (Sahara) desert.

Righteousness89:

Arguing Scriptures is the last thing you will see or get from me..
It can't change what is written!
All I have to say to you is this!
As you Have said , I say Amen to it for you and your likes..

As a Man thinks in his heart! So is he!
You and your likes will be Here For the Great Tribulation in JESUS Name... Amen

Aurevior

Hello.

I won't presume to teach you anything, since you seem pretty confident in the things you teach, but I thought that I might point out that while you're right that debating the Scriptures will not change what is written, it does help those of us who are willing to seek the Truth and believe it when they find it to see our errors and be corrected. So, debate does change something.

I will add that it is interesting that it is fear that guides the interpretation that there is such a thing as a rapture. The Tribulation is certainly not a pleasant time to live through, but then even personal tribulation is not a pleasant experience for believers to endure. This latter is the obvious reason that prosperity preachers and "Word of Faith" theology are so popular, isn't it? The fear of suffering is a strong driver for a pursuit of false teaching. The other driver is love of pleasure.

22 The seed falling among the thorns refers to someone who hears the word, but the worries of this life and the deceitfulness of wealth choke the word, making it unfruitful.
Matthew 13:22 (NIV)

It is true that we ought not to go seeking pain and difficulty in this world just because we are Christians. It is no proof of acceptance with God only that we suffer in this world. There are different kinds of suffering and not all of them are suited to being a Christian. Some sufferings belong to unbelievers and some to believers, and then there are those that belong to all human beings regardless what their attitude to God is.

17 For it is better, if it is God’s will, to suffer for doing good than for doing evil.
1 Peter 3:17 (NIV)

15 If you suffer, it should not be as a murderer or thief or any other kind of criminal, or even as a meddler.
1 Peter 4:15 (NIV)

7 Yet man is born to trouble
as surely as sparks fly upward.
Job 5:7 (NIV)

33 These things I have spoken to you, that in Me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation; but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world.”
John 16:33 (NKJV)

12 Beloved, do not think it strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened to you; 13 but rejoice to the extent that you partake of Christ’s sufferings, that when His glory is revealed, you may also be glad with exceeding joy. 14 If you are reproached for the name of Christ, blessed are you, for the Spirit of glory and of God rests upon you. On their part He is blasphemed, but on your part He is glorified.
1 Peter 4:12-14 (NKJV)

11 Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake. 12 Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
Matthew 5:11-12 (NKJV)

22 And you will be hated by all for My name’s sake. But he who endures to the end will be saved.
Matthew 10:22 (NKJV)

You obviously know of personal tribulation through which every believer must pass, so I am not presuming to teach you anything about that (or anything about anything at all, for that matter). My point here is merely that suffering is a normal part of life for everyone, more so for Christians than for unbelievers, and even more so for Christians who get more and more serious with the Lord and zealous for His Truth than those who remain lukewarm and immature in the Truth.

Regarding the Tribulation, again, for the sake of clarity, I am not presuming to teach you or even to argue with you. Please believe whatever you want and teach whatever you please. The reward for that is yours alone. I am only offering what I have learned here for the sake of any who may be willing to hear and in case you may be willing to hear it too. This is what I see the Scriptures say about this --

1 Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.
2 Thessalonians 2:1-4 (NKJV)

29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
Matthew 24:29-31 (NKJV)

Are the elect in Matthew 24:31 above Jews? I think that 2 Thessalonians 2:1 says an emphatic "NO." Obviously, the Thessalonians were not Jews.

15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.
1 Thessalonians 4:15-17 (NKJV)

This passage immediately above is usually the primary passage on which the doctrine of the rapture is based because of that phrase "caught up" in v.17. Since it is this very event of which Paul was speaking in 2 Thessalonians 2:1 (note the Lord's descent from Heaven in 1 Thess 4:16 and His Coming in 2 Thess 2:1 -- both mean the same thing), it is clear that the "we" in 2 Thessalonians 2 refers to the Thessalonians too.

In short, I have never seen any real biblical justification for the idea that believers, even if only Gentile believers, will not pass through the Tribulation, quite the opposite in fact. The Scriptures are replete with warnings to prepare ourselves for that time, so encouraging believers to not do so is tantamount to leading them into the apostasy that Paul prophesied in the passage from 2 Thessalonians 2 above. That is quite a wicked thing to do, and the Lord does not ignore it. There will be dire consequences for anyone who teaches that.

As for the Tribulation being the time of Jacob's trouble, this is true. The idea though that Jacob or the nation of Israel is somehow different from the Church is quite weird, especially seeing what the Scriptures teach so very explicitly in Romans 9-11. Here's an excerpt of that --

13 For I speak to you Gentiles; inasmuch as I am an apostle to the Gentiles, I magnify my ministry, 14 if by any means I may provoke to jealousy those who are my flesh and save some of them. 15 For if their being cast away is the reconciling of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead? 16 For if the firstfruit is holy, the lump is also holy; and if the root is holy, so are the branches. 17 And if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive tree, were grafted in among them, and with them became a partaker of the root and fatness of the olive tree, 18 do not boast against the branches. But if you do boast, remember that you do not support the root, but the root supports you. 19 You will say then, “Branches were broken off that I might be grafted in.” 20 Well said. Because of unbelief they were broken off, and you stand by faith. Do not be haughty, but fear. 21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, He may not spare you either. 22 Therefore consider the goodness and severity of God: on those who fell, severity; but toward you, goodness, if you continue in His goodness. Otherwise you also will be cut off. 23 And they also, if they do not continue in unbelief, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. 24 For if you were cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and were grafted contrary to nature into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these, who are natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?
Romans 11:13-24 (NKJV)

That is, we who are Gentile believers were made part of Israel the cultivated olive tree, because we believed the Gospel. That is, it is Israel that is the Church and believing in Jesus makes us part of that Church. Unbelieving Israelites who should ordinarily be part of the Church because of their ancestry are cut off from the Church because of their rejection of the Gospel. So, this idea that there is a difference between Israel and the Church is foreign to the Bible. If it is, then the idea that the time of Jacob's trouble does not apply to the "Church" is foreign to the Bible as well. In fact, the whole Bible is clear that believers, both Jewish and Gentile, will experience the Tribulation.

One word of warning that it would be good for believers to heed is that any idea that it is the nation of Israel that will suffer during the Tribulation is apt to make us accomplices in their suffering during the Tribulation, because we will definitely be here when the Antichrist will be oppressing the nation of Israel. We will be here too when he will lead the world's armies to attack them at Armageddon. If we think that we will not experience the Tribulation and that only ethnic Israelites will, then we will fail to properly interpret what is happening when it begins and help or even join the cause of the Antichrist when he begins his oppression of them. If we are found doing so, we will suffer exactly what followers of the Beast will suffer. The Bible has warned us; we would be wise to heed the warning and prepare for those terrible times that are certain to come upon all the world including believers.

Finally, obviously, as alBHAGDADI said, we will not suffer God's wrath. When the trumpet judgments, bowl judgments, and thunder judgments are brought upon the earth, no believer needs to fear that he or she is the target of those judgments. But Satan's hatred of Christians, the Antichrist's and the world's persecution of them is a different matter. We already suffer these things to some degree now. We will suffer them at their worst during the Tribulation. This is why we are told to prepare. If we break and apostatize under those persecutions, then the Lake of Fire will be our portion forever. If we endure it until the end, we will be saved.

11 This is a faithful saying: For if we died with Him, We shall also live with Him. 12 If we endure, We shall also reign with Him. If we deny Him, He also will deny us. 13 If we are faithless, He remains faithful; He cannot deny Himself.
2 Timothy 2:11-13 (NKJV)

16 The Spirit Himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, 17 and if children, then heirs—heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ, if indeed we suffer with Him, that we may also be glorified together.
Romans 8:16-17 (NKJV)

13 But he who endures to the end shall be saved.
Matthew 24:13 (NKJV)

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.
Revelation 20:4 (NKJV)

Grace be with all God's Children.

10 If you faint in the day of adversity,
Your strength is small.
Proverbs 24:10 (NKJV)

32 “Now learn this parable from the fig tree: When its branch has already become tender and puts forth leaves, you know that summer is near. 33 So you also, when you see all these things, know that it is near—at the doors! 34 Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place. 35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away.
Matthew 24:32-35 (NKJV)

42 Watch therefore, for you do not know what hour your Lord is coming.
Matthew 24:42 (NKJV)

9 After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands, 10 and crying out with a loud voice, saying, “Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!” 11 All the angels stood around the throne and the elders and the four living creatures, and fell on their faces before the throne and worshiped God, 12 saying: “Amen! Blessing and glory and wisdom, Thanksgiving and honor and power and might, Be to our God forever and ever. Amen.” 13 Then one of the elders answered, saying to me, “Who are these arrayed in white robes, and where did they come from?” 14 And I said to him, “Sir, you know.” So he said to me, “These are the ones who come out [that is, are coming out or will come out] of the great tribulation, and washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 Therefore they are before the throne of God, and serve Him day and night in His temple. And He who sits on the throne will dwell among them. 16 They shall neither hunger anymore nor thirst anymore; the sun shall not strike them, nor any heat; 17 for the Lamb who is in the midst of the throne will shepherd them and lead them to living fountains of waters. And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes.”
Revelation 7:9 (NKJV)

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SO LONG AN EPSITLE

AududuNine11:


You're right.


YOU WILL BE AROUND TO FACE HIS WRATH DURING THE GREAT TRIBULATION, not me.

Show us anywhere in the scriptures that says otherwise....

If you cant give any clear scripture that tells us... "Christians will be raptured before the tribulation of the Antichrist on children of God, then I think you should search the scriptures well....

The Lord Jesus Christ himself said it, that Christians will face tribulation,Paul corroborated it and even John the Beloved in the book of Revelation... But you allow John Darby and Left behind series to coy you....

Jesus never lies... Let the holy Spirit guide us right.

Why do you think it is written,"If any man collect the Antichrist mark"?? If any man... If any man!!

There is no place in the Bible (God's word) where the word "Rapture" is written.
So it's just another illusion from the fabrications of Christendom Churches like their TRINITY!

obonujoker:


Show us anywhere in the scriptures that says otherwise....

Do you have doubt about your believe? Or why do you need me to convince you?

AududuNine11:


Do you have doubt about your believe? Or why do you need me to convince you?

Show us scriptures clearly stating Rapture will happen before the Antichrist comes into the world!

obonujoker:


Show us scriptures clearly stating Rapture will happen before the Antichrist comes into the world!

Why do you need me to show you? Or are you doubting your belief?

All of you asking me to show you this and that, are you asking to know or you're asking for the sake of baseless argument?



If you believe Christians will be here on earth to suffer the great tribulation, I wish you well.

If you believe Christians would be raptured to escape the great tribulation, I also wish you well.

As for me, I am waiting to be raptured away from this perverse world. I won't be here to face the great tribulation and the wrath that God would unleash on the earth.

So, if you're waiting for me to come and be arguing and debating about pre-tribulation and post-tribulation, sorry, I don't have time for such.

AududuNine11:


Why do you need me to show you? Or are you doubting your belief?

I'm not doubting my belief. Just need people to follow exactly what God says instead of spreading their sorry interpretations

AududuNine11:
All of you asking me to show you this and that, are you asking to know or you're asking for the sake of baseless argument?



If you believe Christians will be here on earth to suffer the great tribulation, I wish you well.

If you believe Christians would be raptured to escape the great tribulation, I also wish you well.

As for me, I am waiting to be raptured away from this perverse world. I won't be here to face the great tribulation and the wrath that God would unleash on the earth.

So, if you're waiting for me to come and be arguing and debating about pre-tribulation and post-tribulation, sorry, I don't have time for such.

If you post fallacy, you'd be corrected with scriptures... No one is arguing...

obonujoker:


If you post fallacy, you'd be corrected with scriptures... No one is arguing...

Lol... Obunu the joker... Your moniker tells much about you.

obonujoker:


I'm not doubting my belief. Just need people to follow exactly what God says instead of spreading their sorry interpretations

You're not concerned about people following what God says, what you're experiencing is cognitive dissonance.