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Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by ALLNIGERIANSMAD(m): 5:02am On Apr 09, 2020
MelesZenawi:
Wike has full rights.

Federal govt power ends in aviation while Wike is the Governor of Rivers state.

If we go by your logic of exclusive list and aviation the plane will remain in air and if it lands both the persenggers will remain in the airport. if they step foot outside the airport they are venturing into Wike Jurisdiction because he remains the Governor of Rivers State and land belongs to state government


These are nonsense 1999 constitution that is keeping this republic down
that's my problem with all these abokis , they too feel they have power over everything, the idiot may not even know what is in the Constitution, I watched him saying this trash on channelTV yesterday, I was like this country must go separate way now.

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Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by 2016v2017: 5:08am On Apr 09, 2020
MelesZenawi:
Wike has full rights.

Federal govt power ends in aviation while Wike is the Governor of Rivers state.

If we go by your logic of exclusive list and aviation the plane will remain in air and if it lands both the persenggers will remain in the airport. if they step foot outside the airport they are venturing into Wike Jurisdiction because he remains the Governor of Rivers State and land belongs to state government


These are nonsense 1999 constitution that is keeping this republic down
Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by 2016v2017: 5:12am On Apr 09, 2020
Macphenson:
Mr. Aviation Minister, Wike has every right to protect the lives of Rivers State people. That is his primary responsibility.

If Sanwolu has been this proactive on time, Lagos State won't be in the mess it is today. You cannot stay in Abuja and be constituting nuisance to people in their states.

Why did caverton helicopter not release the flight.manifest of it's passengers for tracing?

Shouldn't the Federal government has made efforts to check, test and quarentine those passengers when they landed in Rivers State?

What measures has the Federal government put in place to ensure that the virus is not spread across Rivers state via it's points of entry?

Do they expect the governor to fold it's arm and watch while they bring disaster to his door step?

Never, I trust Wike, he's not going to let that happen. He has a responsibility to protect the lives of Rivers State people and he won't dull in doing that like those in ASO ROCK.

Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by 2016v2017: 5:13am On Apr 09, 2020
kalufelix:
Shebi when dem complain give FG eim go say 'hold your governors responsible' .. If you like use submarine enter PH dem go nab you.. .Abeg who be this FG sef..??
Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by Subonbon(m): 5:50am On Apr 09, 2020
0m0nnakoda:


Let us assume I am wrong does that give you the right to ask if I am OK?

Go and learn some manners
This is not a legislation matter

Exclusive list is about separation between the NATIONAL ASSEMBLY and the STATE HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY


The issue is in court they were charged with alleged offences which are not aviation matters
Now that the matter is in court they can put up a defence.

People just parrot exclusive list without understanding of what it means
So the moment a helicopter is involved ut becomes "exclusive list" matter.
Arms and ammunition are on the exclusive list

So by your reasoning any offence involving guns is an exclusive list matter and state governments cannot act?
you are doing well!! God bless you real Good exclusive my foot that's one reason we are backward in everything
Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by orisa37: 6:09am On Apr 09, 2020
He is the Governor of The State. He has SPECIFIC AND GENERAL POWERS TO CONTROL THE STATE. MR. PRESIDENT ONLY HAS GENERAL POWERS.

MR. PRESIDENT CANNOT AUTHORIZE THE INVASION OF A CONSTITUTIONAL STATE WITHOUT THE ACQUIESCENCE OF THE STATE GOVERNMENT.
Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by stepone(m): 7:39am On Apr 09, 2020
So you mean state gov have power within federal airport premises? The power of a state governor ends within the airport and can also be arrested within the airport and be transported by air to FCT. Wikes arrest does not follow due process. The federal airport is a federal gov premises and property (on land and in the air).

proxillin:
I have been reading stupid comments here.

The federal government can grant the permit for plane to fly.

Then the plane should not land, it should be on air perpetually. Wike has no power to touch the plane in the air.

But the moment the plane land, and the pilot walk and violate the state lockdown/curfew, thats Wike's power.

Lets educate you the more.

If there is curfew in Lagos and you boarded a bus from osun. You are free to pass Lagos-Ibadan express way. But the moment you get to berger, you have no excuse to disobey lagos lockdown rule.

EHN Osun is not under lock, Lagos-Ibadan is a federal road that is not under lock. But berger where you land is lagos land which is under lock.

Sanwo Olu don catch you be that. Anything you get from there you should endure it. Its not osun or Federal government jurisdiction to force Lagos to allow anyone walk around,
Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by chuckdelis: 7:43am On Apr 09, 2020
0m0nnakoda:

You lack understanding of two things

1. Exclusive list is an EXCLUSIVE LEGISLATIVE LIST about Legislation. The NATIONAL ASSEMBLY can legislate exclusively on those matters.
It is not about TAKING DECISIONS as you erroneously claim

2. The issue on ground is not an aviation issue if a pilot brings drugs ,or guns into Rivers state is that an aviation matter? If he uses his helicopter to kill people is that an aviation matter?

The flight manifest must be provided to enable contact tracing as a matter of public safety what is exclusive about that


On the second point you made, the minister said the company got clearance from FG to fly into Rivers state since aviation is on the exclusive list and the FG holds power over that.
Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by starlingbawa(m): 8:07am On Apr 09, 2020
0m0nnakoda:
Exclusive list?
What a stupid thing to say

Very Stupid Thing To Say Actually!!!
Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by Mmaxix: 8:30am On Apr 09, 2020
JAMO84:
Yet, they would say Buhari is a dictator. Can Wike try this nonsense with Obasanjo? He would remove him within a week and nothing would happen. Ask Fayose and Dariye!!!


I AM DONE TALKING

Unfortunately there is nothing Buhari can do about this. At most the Aviation ministry will only make appeals for the company.
Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by Ruby5: 8:33am On Apr 09, 2020

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Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by efighter: 8:39am On Apr 09, 2020
MelesZenawi:
Wike has full rights.

Federal govt power ends in aviation while Wike is the Governor of Rivers state.

If we go by your logic of exclusive list and aviation the plane will remain in air and if it lands both the persenggers will remain in the airport. if they step foot outside the airport they are venturing into Wike Jurisdiction because he remains the Governor of Rivers State and land belongs to state government


These are nonsense 1999 constitution that is keeping this republic down

Mr. Man, that your head wey dey hot go soon scatter. The FG controls the Police and the Prison or Correction Centres. So FG can order release of people in Prisons, and give them Police protection. Even the security personnel protecting Wine are under FG's control.

That hatred and bitterness that is pushing you up and down will push you into a deep pit.
Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by Nobody: 9:11am On Apr 09, 2020
efighter:


Mr. Man, that your head wey dey hot go soon scatter. The FG controls the Police and the Prison or Correction Centres. So FG can order release of people in Prisons, and give them Police protection. Even the security personnel protecting Wine are under FG's control.

That hatred and bitterness that is pushing you up and down will push you into a deep pit.

I don't involve myself in slavish discussion. People that have sold their soul to the caliphate and will die defending it

Wike remains the chief security officer of Rivers state. Every other thing is Secondary.

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Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by 0m0nnakoda: 9:12am On Apr 09, 2020
chuckdelis:



On the second point you made, the minister said the company got clearance from FG to fly into Rivers state since aviation is on the exclusive list and the FG holds power over that.
I know he said so what is your point?
Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by DabuIIIT: 9:31am On Apr 09, 2020
Miracle1991:
who have the right not to take Buhari order? If am the president, the commissioner of police in River's is goner, the faan director is a goner, the airport commander is a goner. Before I start with Wike

Yes,that's why your republic will remain a banana republic.

You are flying into a state in a critical time and are ignoring the chief executive of the state and state authorities and you think that's cool.
God have mercy on Africans
Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by Philinho(m): 11:01am On Apr 09, 2020
tinsel:
Wike has messed up the career of the police commisoner and commander of the air Force Base with this overzealousness. I am sure the federal government will deal with them.
Except the government you claim is insane . Wike remains the chief security of the state ,and both the Commisional and the commander are answerable to him. We should stop all this power tussle and politics
Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by Philinho(m): 11:07am On Apr 09, 2020
Compliant:


ARE YOU OKAY AT ALL? BECAUSE YOU JUST SHOWN YOUR INABILITY TO COMPREHEND

1999 Constitution for Nigeria: Exclusive Legislative List has 68 item

These are the areas the powers reserved exclusively for the central government are defined. This means that only the central or federal government can legislate on the subjects in the exclusive list. Interference of the regional or state governments on matters in the exclusive list can be declared null and void and unconstitutional


Aviation, including airports, safety of aircraft and carriage of passengers and goods by air.



READ UNA NO GO GREE READ
Before that your constitution was written, have you experienced this kind of situation we are into b4? Who are the occupant of the said helicopter? why can't they inform d state concerning such move in this period of lockdown? Exclusive list my foot.
Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by Alwaysachick: 11:14am On Apr 09, 2020
tinsel:
Wike has messed up the career of the police commisoner and commander of the air Force Base with this overzealousness. I am sure the federal government will deal with them.


Who is the federal government?
Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by Alwaysachick: 11:19am On Apr 09, 2020
friday2011:


Wike, that guy sabi flex muscle ehnn, he should take it easy ooo, this one that he keeps giving federal government jabs up and down.


You should be happy there is someone speaking up for you for us.

Things go wrong when people who are supposed to talk keep quiet.
Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by oluogbon0000(m): 11:54am On Apr 09, 2020
power belongs to the Federal government even in that state the Presidency can declare a state of emergency and the Governor removed you remenber what OBJ did to former ex governor of bayelsa he is dead now grin
Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by 3sha4lyf: 2:11pm On Apr 09, 2020
bakynes3:
This matter is very simple, Wike should know the boundaries of his power. What we should try to understand is, if Wike arrested the pilots (that got FAAN clearnace to land )on the premises of the Airport or arrested them when they got outside of the airport? If he arrested them in the premises of the Airport,then Wike is just a fool because he doesnt have powers on FG property like the airforce base or Airport. But if he did on the road outside of the airport, then he has all right to arrest them. The Company that owns the Helicopter ought to have sent a letter to the Governor informing them of the official duty given to them by the FG, so the pilots can be allowed to move on the streets of Rivers State.

On the contrary, the State Government has to have a seamless intelligence at the airport to be notified on very important fleets that must come in. Then you send all that arrive on board TO AN ISOLATION CENTRE FOR 14 DAYS and when they are cleared, you let them return to their houses.

Can he stop Buhari from coming into Rivers Think about this. Politics is getting the best out of Nigeria and Rivers State is bearing the brunch. After Wike, Rivers State will still be suffering, paying for the irresponsibilities of her past leaders. Smh.
Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by 0m0nnakoda: 2:21pm On Apr 09, 2020
3sha4lyf:


On the contrary, the State Government has to have a seamless intelligence at the airport to be notified on very important fleets that must come in. Then you send all that arrive on board TO AN ISOLATION CENTRE FOR 14 DAYS and when they are cleared, you let them return to their houses.

Can he stop Buhari from coming into Rivers Think about this. Politics is getting the best out of Nigeria and Rivers State is bearing the brunch. After Wike, Rivers State will still be suffering, paying for the irresponsibilities of her past leaders. Smh.
Do we need this power show now when lives are at risk?
This is a failure of leadership from Buhari.
The fact that Sirika is the one speaking persuades me he,Sirika, authorised this

The question is does the aviation minister have the power to authorise a civilian aircraft to land in a military airport bypassing military hierarchy and the president. Now that Kyari is unwell do ministers have access to the president
The presidency is the one playing politics. They coordinated with Lagos state. Why couldn't they carry Wke along?
I very much suspect that if the flight manifest is produced we would discover that the aircraft did not have the correct authority to land at the airforce base.
Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by 0m0nnakoda: 2:21pm On Apr 09, 2020
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Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by OBUKSBAYELSA: 2:43pm On Apr 09, 2020
Compliant:


ARE YOU OKAY AT ALL? BECAUSE YOU JUST SHOWN YOUR INABILITY TO COMPREHEND

1999 Constitution for Nigeria: Exclusive Legislative List has 68 item

These are the areas the powers reserved exclusively for the central government are defined. This means that only the central or federal government can legislate on the subjects in the exclusive list. Interference of
the regional or state governments on matters in the exclusive list can be declared null and void and unconstitutional


Aviation, including airports, safety of aircraft and carriage of passengers and goods by air.



READ UNA NO GO GREE READ

Compliant while agreeing with you regarding the powers conferred on the central Government, we must not be oblivious to the fact that we run a Federal System and we are in an emergency where the head of the federating States take decision to safeguard the populace from harm, moreso the Governor came out to warn that after the lockdown nobody will be allowed into the State, knowing fully well he cannot stop the airports from functioning he said those who come in through airport would not be allowed to access the city, I really don't see what is amiss here that the Federal Government is creating a mountain out of a mole hill. On the hand why did not go entry points to the various States and allow those who were stop from entering the various cities. My Broda this is a pandemic and a lockdown pressupposes both social and economic.
Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by EdiskyHarry: 4:10pm On Apr 09, 2020
This man is just stupid
Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by dongc(m): 6:12pm On Apr 09, 2020
try and make a sense...haha...coming from a person with any knowledge of what he is talking about ...ok � bye �


MelesZenawi:




Try And make sense next time u reply.
Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by Deban: 6:57pm On Apr 09, 2020
CoronaVirusPro:



What are you saying.

Hit the nail on the head.

The Federal controls FAAN.

Take that to the bank.

The president can day all prisoners be released. The police and military are under Federal.

This common sense and shouldn't be a debate

You need some education.

The president does not control the courts. There is separation of power between the legislative arm, judiciary and executive.

The pilots flew into Rivers State. If they stayed within the airport, that is not problem. But, when the passengers step into the streets of Rivers State when their is a restriction order, that is an offence against the state.

The pilots have been taken to court and remanded in custody. The federal government AMD company van send their lawyers to defend them. At the end of the day, justice will be done by the courts.

The government need to respect constituted authority. The minister of aviation need to be properly educated. Aviation is on exclusive list but driving on the street of Rivers State is on residual list. And the pilots brought passengers who went of exclusive jurisdiction into residual jurisdiction.

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Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by Senatorbng(m): 10:15pm On Apr 09, 2020
The action and decision of Wike cannot stand the test of proper legal scrutiny. He is just bullying those pilots for reasons best known to him.
I wish him luck.
Re: Hadi Sirika: Wike Has No Right To Order Arrest Of Pilots by muffyt05: 12:17am On Apr 10, 2020
MelesZenawi:


Not at all.

You are wrong.


Maybe I am
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