LarryBee1k:
IGBOS COULDN'T HAVE SURVIVED THE WAR THAT THE YORUBA PEOPLE FOUGHT WITH THE HAUSAS.

This is not a shot at the Igbo people, but Igbos always make jest of how the Yorubas lost the war (Ilorin) to the Fulani-Hausa. I want to make some clarifications to you all.

The Real Story of the War.

Ilorin city, traditional emirate, and the capital of Kwara state, western Nigeria is located on the Awun River, a minor tributary of the Niger. Founded in the late 18th century by the Yoruba people, it became the capital of a kingdom that was a vassal state of the Oyo empire.

Oyo’s commander at Ilorin, Kakanfo Afonja (Field Marshal), led a rebellion in 1817 that destroyed the unity of the empire. He was aided by Mallam Alimi (a Fulani from Sokoto), Fulani warriors and slaves, and also by Hausa slaves.

Afonja was increasingly dominated by Mallam Alimi, and upon his assassination, Alimi’s son, Abd al-Salam (Abdul Salami) became the emir of Ilorin and pledged allegiance ( c. 1829) to the Sokoto caliphate.

As a Muslim emirate, Ilorin subjugated several towns in Yorubaland and destroyed the Oyo capital, Oyo Ile (Old Oyo, or Katunga), 40 miles (64 km) northwest, in 1837. Abd al-Salam conducted a jihad toward the sea and was only stopped by the Ibadan victory over his cavalrymen at Oshogbo in 1840.

However, the Igbos twisted this history to fit their evil narrations just like they did the CIVIL WAR. They always taunt the Yorubas with it at any given opportunity. So I'm putting out this question, COULD THE IGBOS HAVE SURVIVED THE WAR IF IT WERE THEM VS THE HAUSA/FULANI? We all know the answer is NO... The only reasonable fight in igbo history was the IGBO WOMEN WAR. They have no history of war before 1900s. They don't understand the meaning of war, how it's been played and it consequences, no wonder they lost the Civil War.

This is to correct every Igbo to stop taunting the Yorubas and start appreciating them for stopping the war that could have later consumed them.

LarryBee1k:


Chill man. It is not what you think about. The post will enlighten many Nigerians and give yoruba the respect they deserve.

LarryBee1k:


Chill man. It is not what you think about. The post will enlighten many Nigerians and give yoruba the respect they deserve.

LarryBee1k:


Why are the Igbos concerned about a war fought 100yrs ago? Why always referencing it? This is like your finger teasing your teeth for not able to cut meat. Can it do it?

LarryBee1k:

Get me a source where IBB said that.

LarryBee1k:


You've nothing to prove! Yorubas are not cowards, we're simply wise. This is 21 century not 1600. We've passed our savages era. We're civilised, Liberal and sophisticated

Oharina:
All i can perceive from the op is a low esteemed man that want to show that the yorubas can fight a war. But i want to ask u op, so the Yorubas fought this war and won, and how come the fulanis colonised the Yorubas and even rule as Emirs in the Yoruba kingdoms? How come some Yorubas are muslims? Now let me tell u op something u don't knw, the Fulanis fought and defeated u people, thats why they decleared Kwara as an emirate to remind the Afonjas that they are ur masters, thats why they colonised you people and brought islam into Yoruba land. Now let me tell u more about the Biafrans. The Fulanis came to fight us but we propelled them back immediately they tried crossing the boundry of Nigeria and Biafra through Benue state. Because the Biafrians are Umu Chukwu Okike Abiama. I hope the moderators don't delete this my post.

Covidodo:

Which yeye upper Iweka history be this ??

What are the Yoruba kingdoms with emirs ??
Okun , Ijesha , Ijebu , Egba , Ife..which one exactly ??

And Islam has been in Yorubaland even before Dan Fodio was born .

Islam is known amongst the Yorubas as "Esin Imale" which means the religion of the Malians .
Islam infiltrated Yorubaland as a result of the interaction between the old Oyo empire and the Malian traders .

Did Dan Fodio bring Islam to Bornu too ??

Dude , please get a proper book and read. Read about the battle of Osogbo .

Ilorin was an outpost of the Oyo empire . Ilorin was not even lost by conquest but due to Afonja's treacherous ways . Afonja was the generalisimo of the Oyo army . In ancient time, the emperor and his general must not live in the same town . Afonja wanted independence from Oyo .
He did this in collaboration with the Fulani Islamic scholars he had been accommodating and some Hausa slaves .

Eventually, he paid the supreme price for his treachery against his emperor because those he accommodated back stabbed him too and removed him in a palace coup .

There was no war whatsoever between Oyo and Fulani that directly led to the loss of Ilorin . Go figure !!

Infact prominent Yorubas in Ilorin like Solagberu who had converted to Islam in Ilorin didn't even step in to help Afonja .
Ilorin was a funny case .

And today except for the bed sheet tying Emir ( who himself is a mixed Yoruba/Fulani) , there's nothing suggestive of Fulani culture in Ilorin .
They speak Yoruba , they bear Yoruba names , They eat Amala ati Gbegiri like every other Yoruba towns .

Ilorin is a very funny case honestly .

And lastly , the Yorubas firmly control the economy and politics of not only Ilorin but the whole of Kwara state .

Infact a non Yoruba has a better and realistic chance of being a proficient learner of the Yoruba culture and language in Ilorin than say Lagos .

PS: Being a Muslim or Christian mean nothing .
Infact , according to a thread by one Nowenuse guy here , Ilorin is made up of more than 40% christians. So much for an emirate

The only striking thing about Ilorin is the fact that the place is the home to Yoruba Islamic fundamentalists .

Oyo and Lagos arguable have more Muslim Yorubas than Kwara sef

Nowenuse:


@bolded. Ogbeni, don't quote me in your wahala na.

Zaria is not just an Emirate, but it is a historical Hausa kingdom for about a millenium, yet are Christians not dominating Muslims in parts of Zaria?

Yola that is an Emirate and the biggest of all pure fulani Emirates in West Africa, is it not 50-50 between Christians & Muslims?

The fraudulent Emirate Suleja now has more Christians than Muslims in that town.

An Emirate is just a pointer to the historical ownership of a place to the Caliphate, nothing more nothing else.


Besides I don't know why Yorubas always brag about Ilorin being a Yoruba language city, hence it cannot have Fulani elements.

You people are yet to understand how the fulanis operate.
Make una wait make I go bring that document about Ilorin that someone here challenged me to bring.

LarryBee1k:


It's either you know nothing about history or you're twisting it. Muslim are already living in yoruba land as passer-by or traders even before 1800s. Malians brought Islam not fulani. So your argument hold no water.

And no you didn't repel the fulani. There was no fight between you people. Stop lying.

LarryBee1k:
IGBOS COULDN'T HAVE SURVIVED THE WAR THAT THE YORUBA PEOPLE FOUGHT WITH THE HAUSAS.

This is not a shot at the Igbo people, but Igbos always make jest of how the Yorubas lost the war (Ilorin) to the Fulani-Hausa. I want to make some clarifications to you all.

The Real Story of the War.

Ilorin city, traditional emirate, and the capital of Kwara state, western Nigeria is located on the Awun River, a minor tributary of the Niger. Founded in the late 18th century by the Yoruba people, it became the capital of a kingdom that was a vassal state of the Oyo empire.

Oyo’s commander at Ilorin, Kakanfo Afonja (Field Marshal), led a rebellion in 1817 that destroyed the unity of the empire. He was aided by Mallam Alimi (a Fulani from Sokoto), Fulani warriors and slaves, and also by Hausa slaves.

Afonja was increasingly dominated by Mallam Alimi, and upon his assassination, Alimi’s son, Abd al-Salam (Abdul Salami) became the emir of Ilorin and pledged allegiance ( c. 1829) to the Sokoto caliphate.

As a Muslim emirate, Ilorin subjugated several towns in Yorubaland and destroyed the Oyo capital, Oyo Ile (Old Oyo, or Katunga), 40 miles (64 km) northwest, in 1837. Abd al-Salam conducted a jihad toward the sea and was only stopped by the Ibadan victory over his cavalrymen at Oshogbo in 1840.

However, the Igbos twisted this history to fit their evil narrations just like they did the CIVIL WAR. They always taunt the Yorubas with it at any given opportunity. So I'm putting out this question, COULD THE IGBOS HAVE SURVIVED THE WAR IF IT WERE THEM VS THE HAUSA/FULANI? We all know the answer is NO... The only reasonable fight in igbo history was the IGBO WOMEN WAR. They have no history of war before 1900s. They don't understand the meaning of war, how it's been played and it consequences, no wonder they lost the Civil War.

This is to correct every Igbo to stop taunting the Yorubas and start appreciating them for stopping the war that could have later consumed them.

Osagyefo98:
According former head of state General Ibrahim Badamosi Babaginda he said and I quote " If I am sleeping and wake to hear a Yoruba man beating drums of war, I will just go back to my sleep".


Not everything is worth debating and wasting of our precious time.