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Abeg, Who Are These People Designing Websites For 4k? by Neptune(m): 11:32pm On Jun 09, 2007
Abeg, who are these people designing websites for 4k? Can you please post ypur website here or a website you've done for 4k. No disrespects o, but this thing dey turn to disgrace o. when did websites costs 4k? everything in this country always has its own funny way of changing. I employ all web designer in this country if you are unique and have pride in doing this stuff please dont sell your self out. That the main reason why someone is saying all web designers in nija are amateurs. if you know how to design websites well and because u no get money you bring your self so low to the extent that you design websites for 4k, im sorry but you are dragging all web designers into the mud. the trend is definitly changing, web designers in this country would soon be like rockstars (you watch). we still have a long way to go so please give us a chance. No design website for any body for 4k o! rather do it free, belive me doing it free protects your image than doing it for 4k. (NO B FIGHT O, ITS JUST DISTURBING) 1 love.
Re: Abeg, Who Are These People Designing Websites For 4k? by gbolio4(m): 2:49am On Jun 11, 2007
Bros I really thank youuuuuuuuuu ooo sad

I am dying to see the face of the individual doing stuff like that [websites for 4k]. I have thought and thought, long and hard about it and it really makes me wanna quit this noble profession.

Also, I can't help but ask. Is It Hunger? I cannot see another reason for this display of madness sad

God help Us!!
Re: Abeg, Who Are These People Designing Websites For 4k? by Akolawole(m): 11:24am On Jun 11, 2007
@Author


Website is different from website.

It can even be #500.

The following can be html code for a website:
<html>
<head>
<title>Welcome to Akolawole's website</title>
<p> My name is Akolawole Ibadan </p>
</html>



Thanks to templates and all that

If Nigeria's sim cards can crash from over #10k to less than 500 naira, why not web designing?
Re: Abeg, Who Are These People Designing Websites For 4k? by gattang202(m): 12:09pm On Jun 11, 2007
Hello mate,
I really appreciate what u guys said.i once posted an article about may be we need to have something like a fixed price but most of the guys here disagree.though i'm new to web design and i see no reason why somebody will learn web designing with almost 50k or more than,and at the end of the day they charge 4k.it is really embarrasing,it is better one do it for free as a charity rather than chrging 4k, but i believe pple charging 4k dont know what they are doing, angry
Re: Abeg, Who Are These People Designing Websites For 4k? by babaklazz: 12:14pm On Jun 11, 2007
i think they are people who does not really know about website development, ppl of such make use of online template, like fill in the gap. Don't mind them jare, its a lucrative business if you can source for your clients, thats the way out of making it in web development .'''
Re: Abeg, Who Are These People Designing Websites For 4k? by abacus(m): 12:37pm On Jun 11, 2007
Good!
My side of the story is if you pay for nonsense, sure you must get nonsense.
I dont see that disturbin my take or jobs. Let them be,
I think this is everywhere in the world, Nigeria is not the only contry scenario like this happens

God Bless and keep on codin
Re: Abeg, Who Are These People Designing Websites For 4k? by Larufa(m): 1:13pm On Jun 11, 2007
The amount you charge for any service (in this instance website design) depends on your experiences, the resources you will be using and how you value yourself. I for one will never undervalue myself inorder to get a job. If  a client wants a good quality job, he/she must be ready to paid for it.

I am just sorry for those that charge 4k for webdesign, for how long will them continue to  be in business with this peanut.
Re: Abeg, Who Are These People Designing Websites For 4k? by Akolawole(m): 1:42pm On Jun 11, 2007
What is the essence of website development?

The basic reason is to give information and NOTHIN ELSE.

As much as i dont support mediocrity but this is a free world jare grin

If its a website that involves Database, Content management, audio/video streaming then i can understand.
Re: Abeg, Who Are These People Designing Websites For 4k? by akara(m): 2:39pm On Jun 11, 2007
Naira or dollars?
Re: Abeg, Who Are These People Designing Websites For 4k? by mimiko(f): 4:04pm On Jun 11, 2007
i hope is dollars oooooo
Re: Abeg, Who Are These People Designing Websites For 4k? by la1(m): 4:21pm On Jun 11, 2007
am completely disgusted to hear this
this is IT prostitution
ppl like u make it extremely diificult for legitimate professionals to make money, curssseessss!!!!!! angry
Advice to cheapskate designer(s),, Do it for free,
Re: Abeg, Who Are These People Designing Websites For 4k? by Kemjisuper(m): 5:29pm On Jun 11, 2007
Someone's got to earn some daily bread - Somehow!
Re: Abeg, Who Are These People Designing Websites For 4k? by Akolawole(m): 5:40pm On Jun 11, 2007
la!:

am completely disgusted to hear this
this is IT prostitution
people like u make it extremely diificult for legitimate professionals to make money, curssseessss!!!!!! angry
Advice to cheapskate designer(s),, Do it for free,

IT prostitution?

If i learn my web designing freely via w3schools and i started charging people 2k. Is there any problem with that?Afterall it doesnt cost me a penny to learn it.

oboatioko:

Curses on your mama and your papa - have u earned a million naira on making a website before? All I am saying is that what u earn on a website varies and all that comes out of your ugly wide big mouth as in the picture is to rain curses on yourself, and your who family - moda foker.

Take it easy Sister
Re: Abeg, Who Are These People Designing Websites For 4k? by soulstar(m): 7:41pm On Jun 11, 2007
oboatioko abi na wetin be dat ur name, y r u makin so much noise about dis website thing, i'm sure dat d website u collectd a million naira 4 its not even worth d money, seriously i want to c d site, if u dont mind just send me d url, let me c if its worth the noise, pls dis place is just to share opinions and not abuse people, and to all those tryin to earn there daily bread sumhow by designing websites 4 4k, make una try dey collect beta money so dat e fit buy una beta bread wink grin
Re: Abeg, Who Are These People Designing Websites For 4k? by gbolio4(m): 12:18am On Jun 12, 2007
charging 4k naira for websites is nothing but a serious sign of deprivation [/b]and [b]hunger

sad

End of thread !!
Re: Abeg, Who Are These People Designing Websites For 4k? by Millionair(m): 1:30am On Jun 12, 2007
I designed and hosted my website www.vickywebworld.com with 5K . cry
Re: Abeg, Who Are These People Designing Websites For 4k? by gbolio4(m): 1:56am On Jun 12, 2007
Millionair:

I designed and hosted my website www.vickywebworld.com with 5K . cry

Thats pretty obvious,
very probably even less!!!
Re: Abeg, Who Are These People Designing Websites For 4k? by eagleroland(m): 6:30am On Jun 12, 2007
oboatioko, a beg no mind them! Can you help me design a website for my business? Let's talk 08023330420.
Re: Abeg, Who Are These People Designing Websites For 4k? by Afam(m): 9:13am On Jun 12, 2007
A website can be developed for free, for N4,000.00 or for even over a million naira depending on whether the owner is your friend, an NGO kind of thing or a big organisation respectively.

Afterall, we have seen very good websites that didn't cost a fortune just as we have seen very bad ones costing so much money. Put differently, the cost does not directly impact on the quality as some of us may wrongly assume.

Microsoft products are expensive whereas Open Source products are free yet in terms of reliability, flexibility and acceptability the world is increasing going the way of open source.

If you can design a very good website for N4,000.00 please tell me I will give you projects to do as long as they are done well.
Re: Abeg, Who Are These People Designing Websites For 4k? by soulstar(m): 1:36pm On Jun 12, 2007
@ oboatioko "the people who are hungry are the people castigating people for designing websites for 4k." lol,
wot happend to ur sixth sence shocked

@ gbolio4, i beg chop nockle wink

@ olijo, and other people dat r looking 4 4k website dis wot u r going to get  www.vickywebworld.com   http://www.justwebservices.com/extracon/

one last thing there is difference between website and webpages
if u want webpages = 4k
if u want a website  = above 4k

smiley smiley smiley grin
Re: Abeg, Who Are These People Designing Websites For 4k? by Afam(m): 2:39pm On Jun 12, 2007
@Soulstar,

Are you a web developer? If yes, can you list a single website you have developed?

They say empty barrels make the most noise.

Thanks for the lecture on the difference between webpages and websites but that wasn't the issue on board.

A simple advice: You cannot become relevant by trying to run down other people just as you cannot become a good footballer by knowing the names of the footballers.
Re: Abeg, Who Are These People Designing Websites For 4k? by romeo(m): 3:36pm On Jun 12, 2007
soulstar:

one last thing there is difference between website and webpages
if u want webpages = 4k
if u want a website = above 4k

smiley smiley smiley grin

i wonder how you're going to make a website without webpages? and to my understanding webpages,videos,images and others form a website?
web pages are documents written in HTML and can be accessed through http

@topic
i can do sites for free and i don't think people should come here and make noise about their 1 million naira or half a million naira sites without putting links for us to see. Websites of 4k depends on what they are for or the kind of site they are, could be static with few webpages and not much graphics and i don't personally think they are worth more than 5k judging by our nations economy
Re: Abeg, Who Are These People Designing Websites For 4k? by segebee(m): 6:13pm On Jun 12, 2007
takin afam's advice, i've decided to keep quiet for some time bt i must chip in a few things:

my first thot on vicky's site was not bad bt going down ahhhhh! that's really, im speechless
and to think unlike me ur paying for hosting

oboatioko, u've designed a website for 500k and more, so y shouldn't u b able to design a site for free.get it?
mayb we could go on a date and talk contacts wink

all guys that can put up a professional website wt 4k are those who've made it already, afam etc, prove me wrong

wotelse 4k is too cheap esp if u're paying for quality hostin 5k, domain name for years above 5k, and time spent on net like me, get it?
Re: Abeg, Who Are These People Designing Websites For 4k? by soulstar(m): 7:34pm On Jun 12, 2007
@ afam, bros i beg no vex say i use ur site as reference, was just tryna proove a point
but u sef if u check am na true i de talk, dem say "sumthin dat is wot doing is wot doing well, abi na how dem dey speak dat english sef, but if dats d best u can do den i fink d person dat said d price of a website depends on how gud d individual is wiv d website thingy has a gud point, no vex
Re: Abeg, Who Are These People Designing Websites For 4k? by my2cents(m): 3:18am On Jun 13, 2007
There is a difference b/w web design and web development. If all you do is slap things together on a site, without any thought process to it, then you are the equivalent of an artist who uses a brush to throw paint onto a canvas and calls it art. There is a difference.

If you have noticed my posts, I never use "design" but "development". There is a difference. As many have said here, whether you charge 4K or you do it for free, it is up to you. It is an unwise thing to do, but you can do it nonetheless. As I like to say, "Not that I would, but I could". Personally, I would rather go work for Mr. Biggs than charge 4k for a website, even if all it said was "Hello World". If you want to charge 4K, you might as well do it for free. Heck, you are better off working for the United Nations. I hear they are hiring wink

Playing Devil's advocate, perhaps such people are new to the game and are trying to gain experience. In other words, as their experience/demand grows, so should their prices. Other than this scenario, biko, try make am at least 10K (not that I am advocating you charge 10K, which is still too small in my books). Have pride in what you do. Don't adopt the Walmart/Tesco ideology because those guys are selling in bulk. How many websites will you build for 4K for you to be able to afford anything in Nigeria? I mean, I am not in Nigeria, but I am sure 4K won't even buy you a bag of Uncle Bens rice.

As always, my 2 cents
Re: Abeg, Who Are These People Designing Websites For 4k? by la1(m): 2:32pm On Jun 13, 2007
its quite sad that ppl who shd know better will choose to resort to cheapass name calling over a professional issue
look bitch i do this for a living
,you jst freelance
say u made a million bucks off this,so you want a medal for it right?
omo poorperson
only hungry ppl brag abt peanuts
,take it from a master u still got a lot to learn
if u'v got any balls place the url here if its worth all the wailing, av got 4k for u.
perhaps u can buy urself some sense,
before u come here and mouth off again lok left,, right,and left again before u get run over by a truck
one Last word to all cheapskatehungryfameseekingwannabewebsitebuilders
go get a job sellin lottery tickets.cheeeappppppp
Re: Abeg, Who Are These People Designing Websites For 4k? by romeo(m): 3:34pm On Jun 13, 2007
tell am my brother grin grin
Re: Abeg, Who Are These People Designing Websites For 4k? by krs1(m): 8:09pm On Jun 13, 2007
cheesy grin
wow! i am loving this.
@la!, abeg tell them oooooo!
Just a few days ago, i rejected N20,000 for a website just because i felt it wasn't enough for a quality job. I deliver quality and rather than sell myself cheap, i wont do it. It's not that i am rich. my biggest project was for N180,000 but that is just me.
Afterall , they say "soup wey sweet, na money kill am".

1 love my brothers and sister(s)
Re: Abeg, Who Are These People Designing Websites For 4k? by soulstar(m): 9:16pm On Jun 13, 2007
@krs1
bros u na big boy, ah ah, i beg me 4 no mind d job oo, atleast dats 4k in 5 places, dis na my num 08064963355 i beg just push d people come my side sharp sharp cos rite now me dey very jobless, make i just use dat one take hold body, 2day god don punish devil grin
Re: Abeg, Who Are These People Designing Websites For 4k? by Afam(m): 8:56am On Jun 14, 2007
Chest beating and bragging won't do anyone any good.

We have seen bad websites costing over N200,000.00 just as we have seen well setup websites costing much less so in reality the price does not necessarily guarantee the quality of the website built.

If you require a static 5-10 pages website it can be built (provided the content is available) for N4,000.00 if the web developer chooses to collect that amount. In any case it won't take up to 2 -4 hrs to set it up so someone making N4,000.00 every four hours will certainly make more money than someone rejecting N20,000.00 and waiting for people to pay say N100,000.00 or more.

The bottomline is the skill set and experience, enough of the boasting jare, that is why Nigerians find it difficult to make money because they always want to play the big man even when those they see as poor men are having it better.

The average okada man makes more money than the average banker that leaves the house before 6.00am and comes home by 8-10.00pm every work day but the perception is different.
Re: Abeg, Who Are These People Designing Websites For 4k? by segebee(m): 10:56am On Jun 14, 2007
Afam:


In any case it won't take up to 2 -4 hrs to set it up so someone making N4,000.00 every four hours will certainly make more money than someone rejecting N20,000.00 and waiting for people to pay say N100,000.00 or more.



The average okada man makes more money than the average banker that leaves the house before 6.00am and comes home by 8-10.00pm every work day but the perception is different.

so how much does it cost for hosting and domain? not to talk of guys like us who use lister generators,

i like that okada analogy lipsrsealed is it true
Re: Abeg, Who Are These People Designing Websites For 4k? by Afam(m): 12:02pm On Jun 14, 2007
segebee:

so how much does it cost for hosting and domain? not to talk of guys like us who use lister generators,

i like that okada analogy lipsrsealed is it true

Ok, maybe it is time to clarify a few things.

1. Web design or programming or even development to mean does not include the domain name and web hosting as these are entirely different parts of the whole website.

2. We have just one hosting plan for static websites and it is N24,000.00 per year while our hosting plans for dynamic websites (with PHP and Mysql support) starts from N42,000.00 per year. We do not compromise on the reliability of our servers as we have dedicated email, web, database servers.

All my references and comments on this thread are based on the premise that web design or development precludes domain name registration (we charge N3,000.00 per year) and web hosting. Any confusion created is regretted.

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