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What They Won't Tell You About Racism. by MaziAlaye(m): 10:00pm On Jun 06, 2020
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I will lose many friends over what I'm about to say.

I will possibly be called a racist or even a white supremacist (even though I'm a brown man, who's been beaten to a pulp by neo-Nazis wearing steel toed boots).

But maybe, just maybe, the fact that I am getting 100% of
my information from the black scholars in the picture - The Great Thomas Sowell, Glenn Loury, Shelby Steele, John McWorther, Coleman Hughes, Kmele Foster and Thomas Chatterton Williams, allows me some room for thought?

I’ve been watching the narrative play universally over
the heinous killing of George Floyd, and the complete and utter lack of facts about African Americans in The US has been infuriating.

Unfortunately, anyone who doesn’t submit to the dominant narrative will be called a heretic, a racist, a whites supremacist etc.
Still, I can’t stop myself.

1. Black Lives Matter don’t care about black people. Want evidence? Name me a single time - just once - when they’ve protested against black people being killed by other black people? Whether in America or elsewhere?
Why is this relevant?
Because the biggest cause of death for black men aged 15-45 in USA is... other black men. Compare to white people, where it’s traffic accidents for the younger portion and heart attacks for those over 35.
Or how about the black lives in Sudan, East Timor, Libya?
Why do we only ever hear from BLM when it’s a white person killing a black person?

2. Speaking of which - imagine if white people started doing the reverse. Imagine every time a white person was killed by a black person, there’d be protests, riots, looting and
social media campaigns. First thing to notice is that it would be more frequent, because African Americans kill more white people in the US than white people kill African Americans. Now what?
Should we really start applying the race card every time there’s a murder involving more than one pigmentation? Where will it end?

3. Police killings. The video of the murder of George Floyd is so visceral, by showing the casual evil with which officer Derek Chauvin kills
George Floyd. People are rightly outraged, and no one can honestly defend the officer, who rightly has been arrested and hopefully will spend his remaining years behind bars (although the prosecutor has been idiotic in moving the case from 2nd degree to first degree murder -
a burden of proof they will most likely fail to provide).

But... The only reason people are up in arms about these is that the social media and MSM attention focuses disproportionately on these incidents when the victim is black and the officer isn't. Don't believe me?


Let me prove it:
You've all heard of Tamir Rice - a 12 year old black boy who was murdered when brandishing a toy gun. It was all over the news, there were riots and marches, hashtags and universal condemnation all over the media.
But how many of you have heard of Daniel Shaver?
A white man who was showing his friends a scoped air rife used to exterminate birds who entered his store, and was killed for this?

You may remember the case of Sam DuBose, a black man who was shot dead for driving his car away from from the police.
The exact same thing happened to before that to Andrew Thomas, a white man driving away from the police. None of you have heard of him.

Alton Sterling was a black man shot dead by the police when reaching into his pocket for his wallet - a travesty.
The same thing happened to a white guy named Dylan Noble. Sterling made national headlines, none of us heard a word about Noble. Loren Simpson was a white teenager who was shot dead by the police in eerily similar circumstances as George Zimmerman killed Trayvon Martin.
You've not heard of the former, but demanded justice for the latter. You've not heard of James Boyd, Alfred Redwine, Brandon Stanley or Mary Hawkes.

But you've heard of Alton Sterling and Philando Castile.
Because the only times police killings make the news is when the victim is black and the officer isn't.

Here are the FBI, NCJRS and BJS statistics:

For every 10, 000 black people arrested for violent crime, 3 are killed by the police.
For every 10, 000 white people arrested for violent crime, 4 are killed by the police.

In 2019, 49 unarmed people were killed by the police. 9 were black. 19 were white.
The likelihood for a black person being shot by the police is as high as being struck by lightning.
Yet, we are seeing riots, every single post on Instagram and Twitter is in support of Black Lives Matter and denunciation of police in America...

4. "Systemic Racism" / "Institutionalised racism".

Sound good, don't they? Such powerful words...
and completely inaccurate. First, let's see what the claims being made are:

Both insinuate built-in racism within various official institutions (police, law, governments etc).
Yet, when they are challenged, by asking the proponents to provide *evidence* for these, nothing is provided. Name one single law that is targeting exclusively black people. Just one. There isn't one.
If the police is "systematically" anti-black, explain how it is possible that 20% of the Police Force in America is black (African Americans in America constitute roughly 14% of the population, meaning that blacks are *overrepresented* within the police force!)?
Now, imagine how incredibly racist it is to say that the 100, 000 plus black police officers are too stupid to know that they are working inside and within a racist institution? That really is racism. And none of them have come out and said anything
None of them have gone on 60 Minutes and said "We are being trained to be racists"? Seriously?

How about governments? Well, let's leave aside the fact that America just had a two-term black president (whose second name was Hussein, by the way).
Some of America's worst run cities have black mayors, black governors and majority black councils. Look at two of the worst cities in America to be black in:
Baltimore and Chicago. Why is it that a place where the people in power are black can be *worse* for the African American
Community, than cities that aren't run by black politicians? This is a knock-down argument.

5. Disparity.

People often look at the economic disparities between blacks and whites, and claim it to be evidence for institutionalised racism. It says something about the power of a
narrative, when it has been debunked decades ago - by BLACK ECONOMISTS (like The Great Thomas Sowell) - yet the myth persists.

First of all, at no point in human history has any two groups of people had the same level of wealth or income as each other.
It would be an absolute miracle to expect that people with different backgrounds, cultures, histories, values and ethics to have the same level of wealth.

This is even true within so called races - compare for example Black Americans (generational) vs Black Immigrants...
particularly the ones from West Indies (Jamaica, Barbados etc.).

You couldn't tell these people apart, just by looking at them, and whatever racism is in place for one group must by definition be applied for the second group.
But what they have is completely different values and work ethics (the Jamaicans arriving in the US does so commonly to achieve greater heights than what he or she can in their home country).
Whatever level of systemic racism exists, they are subjected to it as much as the African American.

Yet, already in the 1970's (!!!), when racism was far more prevalent than it is today, Black Americans from the West Indies were earning 58% more than the Black American whose
generations go back centuries in the United States. How could that be, if there's supposed to be such a thing as "systemic racism"?

Disparities are only proof of disparities. Just because Group X doesn't have the same as Group Y, doesn't mean that it's explained by racism.
And why does this so called "White Supremacy" only run against one group of Black Americans? Why doesn't it run against Asian Americans, who out earn White Americans by over 60%? Why doesn't it apply to Jewish Americans? Or Indian Americans, all of whom earn more than...
White Americans??

Maybe there's something else going on...?

In 1965, Daniel Patrick Moynihan published his report "The Negro Family: The Case For National Action", where he saw that African American households were 25% single mothers - a frightening statistic that would have
devastating consequences. Since then, Jim Crow laws and Red Lining have all been removed from the books, Martin Luther King Jr. and The Civil Rights Movement made tremendous strides and we've now even had a black two-term president.

But, today, black households with no paternal
figure, and only a single mother constitute SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT of all black households in America!!! SEVENTY FIVE!!!!

Now you tell me, which is the better explanation for young black children ending up in a life of crime - the lack of a father figure, or the mythical,
non-explainable entity known only as "institutional racism", which for some reasons doesn't apply to Nigerian immigrants, to black immigrants from West Indies, to Indian people, to Jewish people, to Asian Americans...?

6. Criminality.
"Why are blacks being disproportionately imprisoned? There's a racist Prison Industry Complex!"

The key word here is "disproportionately". Because it most certainly is true that African Americans make out the majority of prisoners in America, but what is the evidence that
this is disproportionate? It's non-existent.

Let's look at the stats:

Black Americans constitute roughly 14% of the population in America, yet they commit 50% of all the murders. But, this is misleading - because it's not the elderly, nor the children nor the women who commit
the murders. It's almost exclusively the young men (15-40). That constitutes about a fourth of the black population, which means that about 3.5% of the American population are responsible for 50% of all the murders!

Read this again: 3.5% of Americans are responsible for 50% of
all murders.

You will find similar astonishing figures for drug related crimes, armed robberies, breaking and entering and gang violence.

So, even though it is true that black people make up the majority of the prison population, the incarceration rates are only proportionate
against the crime rate, not the population.

7. History of slavery, Jim Crow and Red Lining

"Well, that maybe so, but it's because of the history of slavery and Jim Crow!"

I don't doubt the good intentions of those making these arguments, but they don't actually see how it is
a classic case of Racism of lower expectations.

No one has been able to provide a logical link between historical racism and the plight of people today.

First of all, what's unique about racism in America (and Britain, for that matter) is that these countries abolished slavery
when they did! They were among the first countries in the world to do so, and America even fought a bloody civil war to implement the 13th Amendment. Almost every country in the world practiced slavery, and there are many - particularly in Subsaharan Africa - who still do to this
day.

And it most certainly is true that racism didn't end with slavery, and evil practices such as Jim Crow, segregation and Red Lining were practiced until the 70's. But - and here is the most astonishing fact of all - African American's had *more* wealth and less unemployment
during those times than today, when such practices have been abolished and are rightly considered moral evils.

Now, before anyone makes the nonsensical claim that "You're saying we should oppress them then, because they had it better!?", let me explain that correlation does not
mean causation. But just as facts don't care about feelings, reality won't comply with narrative.

8. "America is a White Supremacist society!"

This is one of the most egregious claims out there. First of all, compared to what? Show me a country where blacks are a minority, but
still get to be elected presidents, have more than 50 Mayors, congressmen and women, run city councils and have had multiple presidential candidates. Show me one.

America (and Britain) are two of the least racist societies on earth and in history. For god's sake, look at the
response from the murder of George Floyd! Just look at the outpouring of support for black people, the universal condemnation of racism from exactly all corners of the political spectrum, the complete solidarity from every white person with a social media account.
9. "Black Lives Matter"

This is a big one. Because I don't know of many organisations who care less about black lives than Black Lives Matter. 93% of all killings of black people are done by other blacks - BLM are completely silent on this.
BLM has never - not a single time - had a march or campaign black people being killed en massé in places like Sudan, Eritrea, Somalia or Libya.

Instead, what they have done is to have chants like "Pigs in a blanket, fry 'em like bacon" (about the police), which inspired a
lunatic in Dallas to murder 3 police officers.

During the current riots, a 77 year old, black former Police Captain - David Dorn - was murdered by rioters. BLM has not said a word.

BLM reject Martin Luther King Jr.'s sentiment that people should
"...be judged based on the content of their character, not the colour of their skin". If you've actually listened to the "I have a dream" speech, that line is the one which got the loudest cheers and applauses.
BLM believe people who aspire to apply this principle of colour blindness are racists.

Conclusion:

I can go on and on. I've provided my sources below, and I can point to the works of economists and criminologists and historians for further data.
But I don't it will matter - the narrative is too strong, and people are too emotionally invested. Facts don't stand a chance.

People are so keen to use the tragic murder of George Floyd to wave their anti-racism badges and flags. It makes them feel good.
Black friends of mine, who are incredibly successful in their fields, are talking about how they've been victims all their lives, even though they are some of the luckiest people who have ever lived, regardless of race.

All I ask of you, if you're reading this
(and I doubt many will, certainly not to the end) is to ask yourself "What if what Amir is saying is true?"

That's all I can hope for.

Sources:

2017 FBI UCR:
UCR
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u



2018 FBI UCR:
https:///j9rGAWDc1e
2017 Police Shootings:
washingtonpost.com/graphics/natio…
2018 Police Shootings:
washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/…

National Review
Leading conservative magazine and website covering news, politics, current events, and culture with detailed analysis and commentary.
https://www.nationalreview.com/
…/it-isnt-legacy-slavery-ca…/

The Wall Street Journal - Breaking News, Business, Financial & Economic News, World News and Video
Breaking news and analysis from the U.S. and around the world at WSJ.com. Politics, Economics, Markets, Life & Arts, and in-depth reporting.
https://www.wsj.com/


…/jason-riley-the-other-ferguson-traged…

politifact.com…/cnns-don-lemon-says-more-72-p…/

Police Kill Too Many People—White and Black
This list of whites dying at the hands of cops must inform how we go forward in grappling with the issues.
https://time.com/4404987/police-violence/
Police officers | Data USA
Police officers are most often employed by the Justice, public order, & safety activities industry. The average yearly wage for Police officers was $69,036 in 2016. The top 3 mos…
https://datausa.io/profile/soc/333050/#demographics


How Anti Racism Hurts Black People - John McWhorter
John McWhorter discusses the harms of anti-racism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mT2rlJe9cuU


The Myth of Systemic Racism (Pt. 2) | Coleman Hughes | POLITICS | Rubin Report
Dave Rubin of The Rubin Report talks to Coleman Hughes (columnist at Quillette) about his views on whether systemic racism really exists, his thoughts on a s...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sV5qU6e-YY


Black Mayors in America:
blackdemographics.com…/black-politics/black-mayors/

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Re: What They Won't Tell You About Racism. by Jaysolu(m): 10:12pm On Jun 06, 2020
I didn't read all if this
You lack Rational thinking
What's racist about it is that the black victims don't get Justice, simply because they don't matter to the law
it's racism when one race thinks they're superior to another race
it's racism when people with the expected requirements for a job don't get it because they're dark skinned.. ever heard of white privilege?
it's racism when you're kids get bullied in schools by their peers for no other reason but being black
it's racism when you're shot by a man and his son simply because you're taking a jog
go read a book... any book

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Re: What They Won't Tell You About Racism. by MaziAlaye(m): 10:14pm On Jun 06, 2020
Jaysolu:
I didn't read all if this
You lack Rational thinking
What's racist about it is that the black victims don't get Justice, simply because they don't matter to the law
it's racism when one race thinks they're superior to another race
it's racism when people with the expected requirements for a job don't get it because they're dark skinned.. ever heard of white privilege?
it's racism when you're kids get bullied in schools by their peers for no other reason but being black
it's racism when you're shot by a man and his son simply because you're taking a jog
go read a book... any book

Read it to the end, then we can have a rational conversation

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Re: What They Won't Tell You About Racism. by 1Sharon(f): 4:46am On Jun 07, 2020
OP I'm with you.

They call us uncle Toms. Any black person who says blacks have a victim mentality and refuse to take accountability
Re: What They Won't Tell You About Racism. by helinues: 5:14am On Jun 07, 2020
grin.

Op, they are coming for you.. Inferiority complex won't allow them to finish the write up before dropping opata

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Re: What They Won't Tell You About Racism. by Binikingdowm: 5:16am On Jun 07, 2020
Op please face nigeria issues and leave black Americans alone

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Re: What They Won't Tell You About Racism. by raker300: 5:18am On Jun 07, 2020
1, why aren’t blacks angry when blacks kill blacks: why are Americans angry when foreigners kill them? Americans kill each other more than foreigners do. Why did America go to war when al queada killed only 2k people when Americans killed more than 300k of themselves through extreme violence?

You see your logic now?

2, more whites are killed than blacks: America is over 300m in population. 40m are black Wch is about 20% of the population while whites constitute more than 70% of the population. More than 100 cases of unarmed killing of blacks were reported last year, only 3 were caught on tape. 10 cases of unarmed white people were killed by police Were reported last year..

You see the difference.

Systemic racism: is when schools teach only of white inventors and leave out black investors. Did you knw the AC was invented by a black. Even the lift system was invented by a black man. You didn’t knw cos they chose to leave it out to maintain superiority.

Google “example of bad hair” and google “example of good hair”. That’s systemic racism.

4, police admits they police more of the black neighborhoods and less of white Neighborhoods. Owing to the fact whites are more of serial killers and mass shooters this move ridiculous and is used to fill up prisons because the correctional facility are private and owned by whites

I can debunk more from your write up but I choose to stop here..

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Re: What They Won't Tell You About Racism. by XXLMANDIGO: 5:40am On Jun 07, 2020
OP, Thanks for the objective piece. The Black Lives Matters is a vehicle by the left(Democrats) for chaos and to destabilize Donald Trump government since it's evident they don't have an intimidating candidate who could win an election for then come November.

Thanks again for the deep insight ,OP
Re: What They Won't Tell You About Racism. by raker300: 5:46am On Jun 07, 2020
XXLMANDIGO:
OP, Thanks for the objective piece. The Black Lives Matters is a vehicle by the left(Democrats) for chaos and to destabilize Donald Trump government since it's evident they don't have an intimidating candidate who could win an election for then come November.

Thanks again for the deep insight ,OP
false!!

Black lives matters was founded under Obama, a Democrat!!

They have protested racial injustice ever since

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Re: What They Won't Tell You About Racism. by XXLMANDIGO: 5:50am On Jun 07, 2020
If you disagree with the article ,then ask yourself why the black police that was killed by the mob is not given due recognizance by the media or the same black community?

It's simple, BLM is a tool by the Democrats to cause chaos and more division prior to the November election.


raker300:
false!!

Black lives matters was founded under Obama, a Democrat!!

They have protested racial injustice ever since
Re: What They Won't Tell You About Racism. by Vic2Ree(m): 9:22am On Jun 07, 2020
Jaysolu:
[s]I didn't read all if this
You lack Rational thinking
What's racist about it is that the black victims don't get Justice, simply because they don't matter to the law
it's racism when one race thinks they're superior to another race
it's racism when people with the expected requirements for a job don't get it because they're dark skinned.. ever heard of white privilege?
it's racism when you're kids get bullied in schools by their peers for no other reason but being black
it's racism when you're shot by a man and his son simply because you're taking a jog
go read a book... any book[/s]
If you didn't read the article then why bother making comments? You are under no obligation to make comments in an e-chatroom. It's not by force.

It's people like you who just love to hear themselves talk.
Re: What They Won't Tell You About Racism. by ovcwality(m): 9:42am On Jun 07, 2020
didn't read it all, racism has reduce greatly though but when black communities and black business has been dismantle several times through history you can't blame them, this periods are still fresh. Nigerians always poking nose in issues that don't concern them, atleast black Americans where not cowards they fought for themselves till they reach here, but look at Nigerians where our politicians are fellow blacks but we can't voice out shit instead you see idiots supporting them and praising barbaric acts, corruption has eaten deep into Nigeria, people are living in abject poverty but nothing is done because of cowardice, keep licking the white man ass and keep seeing other African countries develop leaving you guys behind, I don't support some of black Americans lifestyles but always seeing Nigerians saying shit about them while we are far worse is stupid, don't know what to type again self, let me go and watch film self.

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Re: What They Won't Tell You About Racism. by proeast(m): 12:48pm On Jun 07, 2020
The op certainly do have a point!
Re: What They Won't Tell You About Racism. by wisdomiskey(m): 1:22pm On Jun 07, 2020
OP has spent approximately 30 - 40 minutes constructing this poorly written piece of garbage which does nothing but expose his sheer foolishness and inability to utilize the full use of common sense.

I honestly couldn't even read past the first paragraph.. complete & utter trash! As if other races dont practice in-race killings.. undecided What would you say about the numerous white kids who have killed other white kids in school shootouts simply because they were "bullied" or just for the fun of it? Or Mexicans/Columbians who kill each other in gangs and drug related deals? What about Pakistan and India where inter-tribe killings are practiced?

Now all of a sudden, Black Americans shouldn't have the right to protest against racial profiling, brutality, use of excessive force and killings from Cops (who are sworn to protect and serve the community)? GTFOH!

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Re: What They Won't Tell You About Racism. by wisdomiskey(m): 1:32pm On Jun 07, 2020
Jaysolu:
I didn't read all if this
You lack Rational thinking
What's racist about it is that the black victims don't get Justice, simply because they don't matter to the law
it's racism when one race thinks they're superior to another race
it's racism when people with the expected requirements for a job don't get it because they're dark skinned.. ever heard of white privilege?
it's racism when you're kids get bullied in schools by their peers for no other reason but being black
it's racism when you're shot by a man and his son simply because you're taking a jog
go read a book... any book

Dont mind idiots who sit in some hut somewhere in Africa and buy N1500 data just to come type up trash on matters they know nothing about..

He even cited FBI as "sources" to prove his stupid point.. grin grin that's just like citing KKK website to debunk the existence of lynching lipsrsealed

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Re: What They Won't Tell You About Racism. by wisdomiskey(m): 1:38pm On Jun 07, 2020
ovcwality:
didn't read it all, racism has reduce greatly though but when black communities and black business has been dismantle several times through history you can't blame them, this periods are still fresh. Nigerians always poking nose in issues that don't concern them, atleast black Americans where not cowards they fought for themselves till they reach here, but look at Nigerians where our politicians are fellow blacks but we can't voice out shit instead you see idiots supporting them and praising barbaric acts, corruption has eaten deep into Nigeria, people are living in abject poverty but nothing is done because of cowardice, keep licking the white man ass and keep seeing other African countries develop leaving you guys behind, I don't support some of black Americans lifestyles but always seeing Nigerians saying shit about them while we are far worse is stupid, don't know what to type again self, let me go and watch film self.


Pure facts! Aproko-idiots like OP won't face Nigeria's pathetic situation but will sit down and be typing epistle on matter wey no concern am.

This is why Nigeria is where it is today embarassed

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Re: What They Won't Tell You About Racism. by BlackfireX: 2:08pm On Jun 07, 2020
From a once powerful race, to a mere senile
Re: What They Won't Tell You About Racism. by Jaysolu(m): 2:25pm On Jun 07, 2020
Vic2Ree:

If you didn't read the article then why bother making comments? You are under no obligation to make comments in an e-chatroom. It's not by force.

It's people like you who just love to hear themselves talk.
I read enough to see how much bull crap it's filled with
Re: What They Won't Tell You About Racism. by hakeem4(m): 7:50pm On Jun 07, 2020
Jaysolu:
I didn't read all if this
You lack Rational thinking
What's racist about it is that the black victims don't get Justice, simply because they don't matter to the law
it's racism when one race thinks they're superior to another race
it's racism when people with the expected requirements for a job don't get it because they're dark skinned.. ever heard of white privilege?
it's racism when you're kids get bullied in schools by their peers for no other reason but being black
it's racism when you're shot by a man and his son simply because you're taking a jog
go read a book... any book
read!
Re: What They Won't Tell You About Racism. by Nobody: 7:59pm On Jun 07, 2020
I hate the black on black killings argument, it’s dumb and lacks logical thinking.

Most homicides happen between people who know each other and have relations with each other, so white kill whites just as much as black kill blacks.

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Re: What They Won't Tell You About Racism. by StrikeBack(m): 8:47pm On Jun 07, 2020
Binikingdowm:
Op please face nigeria issues and leave black Americans alone
true!

What is my business with what happens in Usa when we have problemses here
Re: What They Won't Tell You About Racism. by drips8(m): 5:30pm On Jun 14, 2020
kingawothefirst:
I hate the black on black killings argument, it’s dumb and lacks logical thinking.

Most homicides happen between people who know each other and have relations with each other, so white kill whites just as much as black kill blacks.

It's actually a weak argument, blacks who kill other blacks are brought to justice but when it's a white man they don't convict them. The police were hesitant to arrest Floyd's killer, Breonna Taylor and Kenneth walker killers are still free and it took almost 2 months before the ahmaud arbery killers were arrested.

83% of crimes against white people are committed by white people but no one says white on white crime.

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Re: What They Won't Tell You About Racism. by MaziAlaye(m): 10:10pm On Jan 19, 2021

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