Bade007:
Do i need frameworks in building web applications...cant i just use html css nd js

Bade007:
Do i need frameworks in building web applications...cant i just use html css nd js

Bade007:
Do i need frameworks in building web applications...cant i just use html css nd js

SUPREMOTM:


You can and you probably should, but if you want paid employment as a JavaScript programmer, I'm 99.9999 percent certain that knowledge of frameworks will be a requirement for employment.

Vanilla JavaScript (plain JavaScript, without framework) hasn't always been as powerful as it is today, so, most web projects were made with Frameworks; maintaining them requires you to understand the framework used.

Most JavaScript programmers learn frameworks first , but it's better if you learn Vanilla first.

Frameworks are no longer necessary, but that's the easier route to get the job done .

spartan117:

Correction.
Most JavaScript developers Learn JavaScript first before moving on to frameworks.
Frameworks are still very necessary, they are not just the easier route, they are the better route.

spartan117:

Correction.
Most JavaScript developers Learn JavaScript first before moving on to frameworks.
Frameworks are still very necessary, they are not just the easier route, they are the better route.

Karlebolu:


To add to this...

You can hardly learn a JS framework if you are new to programming and Javascript is your first language.

stanliwise:
This ain’t true, framework are more easier and far easier than vanilla JS. Many frameworks you see today are based on the philosophy of abstraction and this simply means you call a simple functionality like Mail->send() without having any knowledge about the internal large implementation.
The only thing hard about Frameworks is installation and deployment but working with framework is so so easy.

Karlebolu:


if("you are new to programming" && "Javascript is your first language" ) {

console.log("You can hardly learn a Javascript framework" );

}

stanliwise:
So False. I wonder where you guys buy this ideologies.

spartan117:

Oga it's very difficult to learn a JavaScript framework with zero knowledge of vanilla JavaScript.
The time you will use to do trial and error will be more than enough to learn plain JavaScript and then learn the framework you want.

stanliwise:
There is a learning curve for learning JavaScript through framework. Just say you don’t know it. The tutorial is often mixed with Vanilla and frameworks. Every topic like array, functions and variable are included the tutorial.

spartan117:

spartan117:

Oga it's very difficult to learn a JavaScript framework with zero knowledge of vanilla JavaScript.
The time you will use to do trial and error will be more than enough to learn plain JavaScript and then learn the framework you want.

stanliwise:
I also learnt JQuery before understanding the JavaScript properly.

I also learnt Bootstrap before deep Css understanding. So let’s be open minded.

spartan117:

It's possible to do that, but it's an unnecessary pain in the ass. The best approach still remains learning the basics of the language first, you don't have to go too deep as the case may be.

React JavaScript for example is pure JavaScript, I can imagine how difficult it would be for someone to attempt learning React without first mastering some core JavaScript principles.

Take a look at this thread:

https://www.freecodecamp.org/forum/t/learn-a-framework-not-a-language/102995/8

Bade007:
Do i need frameworks in building web applications...cant i just use html css nd js

3KINGZ18:


I started building web apps with framework i couldn't go back ,frameworks make things when building web applications, they are some things we do with plain JS when building web apps that are just redundant.

Bade007:
Do i need frameworks in building web applications...cant i just use html css nd js

stanliwise:
I agree with you but vanilla first before frameworks is a harder but Efficient way to learn. That is how I learn how to code PHP. But a faster way which has drawbacks is to learn how to use frameworks. First, in no time you will learn how to do many things but you won’t understand how they work.

It is a blue vs red pill choice. One helps you get on to the practical field as fast as possible but the other although slow gives you a thorough and a proper way of learning.

Nowadays beginners like to use frameworks, many folk run to laravel at the slightest learning of PHP and run to Django before learning anything in python. Many to Bootstrap before learning two page of CSS. So it is different folks for different strokes.

Me perse I personally hate frameworks. They give you a learning curve and ideology that make it looks like the alpha and omega of doing things.

stanliwise:
There is a learning curve for learning JavaScript through framework. Just say you don’t know it. The tutorial is often mixed with Vanilla and frameworks. Every topic like array, functions and variable are included the tutorial.

elunico:


I've finished a course on HTML and CSS, and I'm deploying my knowledge in trying to build up my personal website, taken some basics on Javascript and grabbing it little by little, but, I think, I'd have to begin undergoing projects to fully get a grasp of it. Do I move on to learn a frame work that applies to front-end developer? Which one in particular? Pls, I'd like to know the next step to take and soon, thanks!!

VillagePeople11:


You are just arguing anyhow which shows how much little knowledge you have. You can not just jump to angular, react or vue without a good foundational knowledge of javascript.... wetin u dey argue sef...

And you can not hate frameworks except uve never built anything serious that requires you to write complex logical codes. You'd rather spend your time doing that than redundantly reinventing the wheel

stanliwise:
Since you have decide to be a front end dev, concentrate on it now. There is a blur line concerning learning frameworks and the real codes. You have to be doing the two side by side but one advice I will give you now is to treat them patiently and stick with a learning style until you’re comfortable to move on. So if for example you start with Vue.js. Just ensure you keep on it until you understand it properly. As for learning JavaScript properly. It should be your watch work. Keep learning pure JavaScript time by time. It will in on the long run help you have a deep understanding of any framework you are making use of. But I mean on a long run. If you’re doing small UI projects. Handle it will Pure JS, CSS and HTML . But if big then use frameworks. Frontend design has two part of it. It has the artistic prowess and the coding part. Almost no one is greater than the other but just concentrate

trytillmake:
em, just to add better u learn plain javascript first -- w3 schools will help u out, then u can add a framework to it --- angualar or react js -- what frameworks do is that they are written to help u bootstrap an app easily, and to easily help u apply plugins to make an app faster either web or mobile, u can still write yr plain javascript in a framework or u use the framworke specific language.
Long and short -- learn javascript first then pick a framework either angular or react e.t.c