Iamgrey5:
Only Lagos was looted by one million boys

No paliative was distributed in Ogun, Oyo, Osun and Ekiti and Ondo and they survived a month of lock down.

If your argument is based on Lagos being the only successful state in the South West, then your illustrations does not support your argument.

we Also Watched A Video Of Hungry Youths Vandalizing And Looting Valuable Materials From A Chinese Company In Ogun,we Also Saw Multiple Videos And Pictures Of Yoruba Women Smuggling Rice In Their Hijabs And Wrappers,you Mean No Yoruba States Received Palliatives From The Government? You Are A Pathetic Liar,please Can You Remind Us The Name Of That Yoruba State That Recieved A Spoiled Rice From The Government?

Iamgrey5:
@ emboldened who protested against Northern cabal when they refused to allow Jonathan to be president?

Who voted for him in 2011?

If you think the vote against Jonathan was all about his ethnic group, then you must be silly

Jonathan won Ekiti with a larger percentage margin than he won Edo state in 2015,

He narrowly lost Ondo state.

Even in 2019, Atiku with an igbo VP won Ondo and got almost 45% of the votes of Yoruba against their own son.

In 2011, Jonathan got just meagre votes from the SW. In fact he even lost in one of the SW states in 2011. In the places where he won in the SW, he was only geting 50-60% of the votes, while in the SE and SS (except Edo state), he was getting votes of 90-98% so it is quite clear the regions that supported him.

In 2015, SW people, in partnership with the Fulanis, made sure Jonathan lost in almost all the SW states. Jonathan still got 90-98% of the votes from the SE and SS (except Edo).

So the veracity of my statements so far is beyond reproach.

BabaO2:

What is Christianity and Islamic when talking about identity of people. Those are imported religions. If we had gotten it right as a true nation, certainly that Ishaq Akintola you just mentioned won't be involved in frustrated activity he's always spearheading.

Stop deceiving yourself, yoruba muslims want Fulani emirates in Oduduwaland, yoruba christians are further sub-divided between those who are pro-East like FFK, Dino etc and those who are totally confused.

Iamgrey5:
He never said this

He even said boldly that igbo had their own problems.

And yorubas too...he mentioned modakeke and ife

So what's your point?

oyatz:
You ought to have outgrown this childish bigotry. . . it's holding you down.

When you decide to be truly objective and stop being jaundiced then we might have a truce.

Your yoruba brothers are up there, spilling biles, I guess you were so mentally blind when you stumbled on their comments that you forgot your sanctimonous homilies.

donyfrank:


What make them leeches? People that buy your land, pay taxes? How are they leeches

don't Mind Those Guys,you Will Always Hear Them Wailing That Igbos Don't Respect Their Host Communities,yet We Legitimately Buy Our Lands And Properties,pay Our Tasks,obey And Abide By The Law Of The Land,pay Our Rent And Also Pay Our Bills By Our Selves, What Other Fvcking Respect Do They Want Again? They Want Us To Bow And Postrate Before Them Every Morning,they Never Knew We Bow To No One Except God,as Far As You Don't Pay My Bills I Dnt Fvcking Send You....Hosts My Foot As If They Gave Us The Lands For Free.

meavox:


And Arewa Should know that with all their genocidal land grabbing and terrorism, North means Sharia Arewa because Middle Belt are indigenous people who have had enough of this bad Amalgamation and want their own Federation.

You will be disppointed. Middlebelt can just accept to be part of the Sharia Republic

vanunu:


So there are indegenous Christians in Katsina.

Yes pal, even in kano, sokoto, zamfara etc. I served in Kano, as NCCF bro we did alot and alot i believe is still on going in indigenous kano Christian communities
Those guys are real Christians, I mean die hard Christians. They rather die than succumb to any other religion. Take the case of Leah Shiubu. But they are so pious, don't want to meddle into politics as in "the world is not my home " kind of. They fix their eye in " heaven'

OfoIgbo:


In 2011, Jonathan got just meagre votes from the SW. In fact he even lost in one of the SW states in 2011. In the places where he won in the SW, he was only geting 50-60% of the votes, while in the SE and SS (except Edo state), he was getting votes of 90-98% so it is quite clear the regions that supported him.

In 2015, SW people, in partnership with the Fulanis, made sure Jonathan lost in almost all the SW states. Jonathan still got 90-98% of the votes from the SE and SS (except Edo).

So the veracity of my statements so far is beyond reproach.

Poor in wealth. Poor in spirit. Poor in mentality.

He must be Igbo


Smh

techmo:


Lagos is our land.. yoruba land... tell your ibo people to stop packing them self tight inside ifesinachi busses to come and disturb us in yoruba land... if you stay at home to develop then break up would be faster

You’re living and seeing the consequences of the ‘one Nigeria’ your parents fought, starved children and murdered for, and you’re now complaining!

OfoIgbo:


In 2011, Jonathan got just meagre votes from the SW. In fact he even lost in one of the SW states in 2011. In the places where he won in the SW, he was only geting 50-60% of the votes, while in the SE and SS (except Edo state), he was getting votes of 90-98% so it is quite clear the regions that supported him.

In 2015, SW people, in partnership with the Fulanis, made sure Jonathan lost in almost all the SW states. Jonathan still got 90-98% of the votes from the SE and SS (except Edo).

So the veracity of my statements so far is beyond reproach.

Yorubas have never given 70% of their votes to anyone, not even Obasanjo during his second term campaign for the presidential office.

Let me break it down for you.



Jonathan vs Buhari
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Ondo

2011

PDP: 387,376 ANC: 74,253

Jonathan won with a margin of 308,123

2015

Ondo: PDP 251,368 APC 299,889

Buhari won with a small margin of 48,521

__________________

Lagos

2011

PDP: 1,281, 688 ACN: 427,000

Jonathan won by a margin of 854,668

2015

PDP: 632,327, APC: 792,460

Buhari won by only 160,133 votes

_______________

Ogun

2011

PDP: 309,117 ACN: 119,000

Jonathan won with a margin 190,117 votes

2015

PDP: 207, 950 APC: 308,290

Buhari with a margin of 100,340 votes


Same statistics were recorded by nearly all states in the Southwest except Osun state which showed Jonathan had a bigger winning margin in Yoruba land than Buhari ever did.

NB; In 2019, Buhari had even less of a winning margin than he had in 2015.

Reference:

http://saharareporters.com/2011/04/17/presidential-election-results-live


https://thewillnigeria.com/news/new-live-update-nigeria-2015-official-presidential-election-results/

Smoke55:
we Also Watched A Video Of Hungry Youths Vandalizing And Looting Valuable Materials From A Chinese Company In Ogun,we Also Saw Multiple Videos And Pictures Of Yoruba Women Smuggling Rice In Their Hijabs And Wrappers,you Mean No Yoruba States Received Palliatives From The Government? You Are A Pathetic Liar,please Can You Remind Us The Name Of That Yoruba State That Recieved A Spoiled Rice From The Government?

No Yoruba state received Paliatives from Government that I know of

And the communities affected by looting in Ogun are already part of the larger Lagos metro.

We have ijebu Ode, Abeokuta and rest in Ogun which were not affected by looting but were also under lock down.

I challenge you to bring out any evidence of looting in other parts of Southwest.

Iamgrey5:
Yorubas have never given 70% of their vote to anyone, not even Obasanjo during his second term in office.

Let us break it down



Jonathan vs Buhari

2011
Ondo: PDP 387,376 ANC: 74,253

Jonathan won with a margin of 308,123

2015

Ondo: PDP 251,368 APC299,889

Buhari won with 48,521

__________________

Lagos

2011

PDP: 1,281, 688 ACN: 427,000

Jonathan won by a margin of 854,668

2015

PDP: 632,327, APC: 792,460

Buhari won by only 160, 133

_______________

Ogun
2011

PDP: 309,117 ACN: 119,000

Jonathan won by 110,117

2015

PDP: 207, 950 APC: 308,290

Buhari won by 100,340


Same statistics was recorded by every state which showed Jonathan had a bigger winning margin in Yoruba land than Buhari ever did except Osun state.

NB; in 2019 Buhari even had less this winning margin

Reference:

http://saharareporters.com/2011/04/17/presidential-election-results-live


https://thewillnigeria.com/news/new-live-update-nigeria-2015-official-presidential-election-results/

Buhari never had any chance in the SE and SS because we knew he was supremely incompetent and a religious/tribal bigot. We could see through all that.
That's why he lost both in 2011 and 2015 in the SS and SE

murphyibiam15:

And yorubas too...he mentioned modakeke and ife

So what's your point?

He mentioned Modakeke with regards to appointment, but he specifically said igbos have their own problems without explaining any further.

OfoIgbo:


Buhari never had any chance in the SE and SS because we knew he was supremely incompetent and a religious/tribal bigot. We could see through all that.
That's why he lost both in 2011 and 2015 in the SS and SE

Stop shifting goal post

You said we voted against Jonathan because we hate the South South. Yet, evidence shows that Jonathan had a higher winning margin in 2011 than a Buhari/Osibanjo(a Yoruba man) ticket ever had in Yoruba land.

Stick to your point!

Iamgrey5:
No Yoruba state received Paliatives from Government that I know of

And the communities affected by looting in Ogun are already part of the larger Lagos metro.

We have ijebu Ode, Abeokuta and rest in Ogun which were not affected by were also under lock down.

I challenge you to bring out any evidence of looting in other parts of Southwest.

was There Any Looting In Sw At All?

Smoke55:
was There Any Looting In Sw At All?

Stick to your argument

You initial comments were contradictory

You said that Lagos is the only economic viable state in the South west and you said looting during the lock down has exposed South west.

Yet, Only Lagos and environs experienced looting during the lock down out of 6 southwestern state.

If I were to follow your logic, I would say Ogun, Oyo, Ondo, Ekiti and Osun are better than Lagos because they didn't experience looting.

Iamgrey5:
Stop shifting goal post

You said we voted against Jonathan because we hate the South South. Yet, evidence shows that Jonathan had a higher winning margin in 2011 than a Buhari/Osibanjo(a Yoruba man) ticket ever had in Yoruba land.

Stick to your point!

Of course, my point is still there. The SE and SS voted against Buhari because we knew he was incompetent and a religious bigot.
The SW voted against Jonathan because the SW hates anything good happening for the SE or SS. That is a fact you can take to the bank.

The jealousy of the SW is legendary. They will do anything to undermine any positive thing happening for the SE and SS, including ensuring that the only Niger Delta president was denied a second term. I hope my point is clear enough

OfoIgbo:


Of course, my point is still there. The SE and SS voted against Buhari because we knew he was incompetent and a religious bigot.
The SW voted against Jonathan because the SW hates anything good happening for the SE or SS. That is a fact you can take to the bank.

The jealousy of the SW is legendary. They will do anything to undermine any positive thing happening for the SE and SS, including ensuring that the only Niger Delta president was denied a second term. I hope my point is clear enough

No Your point is silly and Contradictory

Why will Southwest give Jonathan a higher winning Margin in 2011 than they gave Buhari in 2015, if South west truly hate Jonathan?

Okay, let’s bring intelligent conversation to this thread. Since there is a consensus that we should all break up, enough with insulting each other for once and let’s discuss how this breakup can be achieved.

Let’s not only discuss, but let’s take action as well.

First thing that must be done is to amend the 1999 constitution, if you don’t, any attempt to separate / secede is treason and punishable by death. If you don’t want to go this route then declare war and fight it out.

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LabDNA:
Common sense is subtly prevailing at last.

I expect some afonja brownies to call this hausa muslim man an IPOB. It is not beyond them to be incredibly stupid nine out ten times.

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Iamgrey5:
He mentioned Modakeke with regards to appointment, but he specifically said igbos have their own problems without explaining any further.

Meaning Igbos are better off then, since he just mentioned them without attaching a specific problem

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OfoIgbo:


Of course, my point is still there. The SE and SS voted against Buhari because we knew he was incompetent and a religious bigot.
The SW voted against Jonathan because the SW hates anything good happening for the SE or SS. That is a fact you can take to the bank.

The jealousy of the SW is legendary. They will do anything to undermine any positive thing happening for the SE and SS, including ensuring that the only Niger Delta president was denied a second term. I hope my point is clear enough

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OfoIgbo:


Of course, my point is still there. The SE and SS voted against Buhari because we knew he was incompetent and a religious bigot.
The SW voted against Jonathan because the SW hates anything good happening for the SE or SS. That is a fact you can take to the bank.

The jealousy of the SW is legendary. They will do anything to undermine any positive thing happening for the SE and SS, including ensuring that the only Niger Delta president was denied a second term. I hope my point is clear enough

Okay, you are right we Yorubas are guilty. We are jealous of every tribe in this world. FINE! Now Let’s separate, oga abeg make it happen.

We apologise for what happened to Jonathan, it’s all our fault your vote didn’t count. We also stopped everybody else from voting Jonathan, we are that powerful and we abused our power, we are deeply sorry so now forgive us and let’s separate. Oya!

Iamgrey5:
No Your point is silly and Contradictory

Why will Southwest give Jonathan a higher winning Margin in 2011 than they gave Buhari in 2015, if South west truly hate Jonathan?

You have started this your typical SW rigmarole around issues. You should be asking the necessary question(s) which are these -- Did the SW (in partnership with the Fulanis) vote out Jonathan in 2015, and the answer is a resounding YES

Did the SE or SS vote out Jonathan in 2015? Yet again, the answer is a resounding NO

When you guys were rejoicing when the oba of Lagos was threatening Ndigbo with the Lagoon, what was it all about? Wasn't it because Igbos did not join the Yorubas in their anti-Jonathan political stance, but instead chose to vote for Jonathan and his party in Lagos state?

You can twist around all you like, the point is that everyone knows the SW was instrumental (and were proud and boastful about it) in the unjust removal of the only ever SS president. This fact will be remembered for a very very very long time. Trust me

Iamgrey5:
Stick to your argument

You initial comments were contradictory

You said that Lagos is the only economic viable state in the South west and you said looting during the lock down has exposed South west.

Yet, Only Lagos and environs experienced looting during the lock down out of 6 southwestern state.

If I were to follow your logic, I would say Ogun, Oyo, Ondo, Ekiti and Osun are better than Lagos because they didn't experience looting.

and I Remember Telling You That There Was Looting In Ogun, Osun And Other States Received Palliatives From Government,that Was When Osun Received A Spoiled Rice,dnt Worry I Will Show U Proves And Pictures Of Palliative Been Shared In The Other States.

It baffles me that it is mostly the Igbos that are championing for dissolution of this fraud called Nigeria. Nigeria is a mess, and I am surprised the Igbos receive so much hate for this. Are other tribes blind or what? The only people that will clamor for one Nigeria and I will understand should be the north, since they control the economy, military, political, and basically run the country like a mafia group.

If Yorubas become an ally to the Igbos to break this fraud, Nigeria will be done in an instant. I am not writing this as an ipob, but as someone with common sense. Can anyone give a good reason why Nigeria should still become one? I wait.

Give him N5m with range rover and a oil well in Bayelsa.

He will swallow his words now now.

Sad thing about freedom fighting and activism is that they usually end up compromising.

OfoIgbo:


You have started this your typical SW rigmarole around issues. You should be asking the necessary question(s) which are these -- Did the SW (in partnership with the Fulanis) vote out Jonathan in 2015, and the answer is a resounding YES

Did the SE or SS vote out Jonathan in 2015? Yet again, the answer is a resounding NO

When you guys were rejoicing when the oba of Lagos was threatening Ndigbo with the Lagoon, what was it all about? Wasn't it because Igbos did not join the Yorubas in their anti-Jonathan political stance, but instead chose to vote for Jonathan and his party in Lagos state?

You can twist around all you like, the point is that everyone knows the SW was instrumental (and were proud and boastful about it) in the unjust removal of the only ever SS president. This fact will be remembered for a very very very long time. Trust me

Fine you’ve won the internet.

Let’s move forward, let’s separate and leave our region. We are deeply sorry for making Jonathan a drunkard. We are deeply sorry for not making your own vote count. We are sorry for holding the entire Nigeria north and south hostage that they weren’t able to vote. I apologise on behalf of all Yorubas around the world.

Okay, so now that that’s out of the way, let’s separate. Please carry gun go aso rock, you have all our support, we won’t stand in your way when you leave our region, move out and separate please, thanks.

pansophist:
It baffles me that it is mostly the Igbos that are championing for dissolution of this fraud called Nigeria. Nigeria is a mess, and I am surprised the Igbos receive so much hate for this. Are other tribes blind or what? The only people that will clamor for one Nigeria and I will understand should be the north, since they control the economy, military, political, and basically run the country like a mafia group.

If Yorubas become an ally to the Igbos to break this fraud, Nigeria will be done in an instant. I am not writing this as an ipob, but as someone with common sense. Can anyone give a good reason why Nigeria should still become one? I wait.

Oh we can’t be trusted, now you want us as allies? Okay o you have our ally, now separate and leave us in peace.

DuwaRepublic:


Okay, you are right we Yorubas are guilty. We are jealous of every tribe in this world. FINE! Now Let’s separate, oga abeg make it happen.

We apologise for what happened to Jonathan, it’s all our fault your vote didn’t count. We also stopped everybody else from voting Jonathan, we are that powerful and we abused our power, we are deeply sorry so now forgive us and let’s separate. Oya!

The bolded statement is very correct. I commend you for making that statement.

With regards to the remainder of what you wrote, I wouldn't go as far as saying it is ALL your fault. It's clear you were only trying to please your Fulani masters by obeying their commands. APOLOGIES ACCEPTED THOUGH

DuwaRepublic:


Oh we can’t be trusted, now you want us as allies? Okay o you have our ally, now separate and leave us in peace.

You are responding emotionally, with no depth, substance, and reasoning. Better not to respond at all, than respond and not address the query at hand.