letu:
Slave's will always be defending his or her masters through Stockholm syndrome attitude.

So we now have it. Red herring tactic, is introduced, lmao.
Negative approach, like a letu and/or donnie intellect can only be toxic, oh yeah, it can argue, criticise and be sarcastic, but it cannot give anyone any good nourishment, especially when coming from a toxic standpoint no one can get any good nourishment from it lmao.

donnie:
Stockholm syndrome... Dazzit.

"Jesus kept saying,
"Father, forgive them, because they don't know what they're doing."
Then they divided his clothes among them by throwing dice."
- Luke 23:34

Yahshua Ha Mashiach, aka Jesus Christ, must the most recognised and famous Stockholm syndrome lover

Every white person to you Baba and lets, is a Jan Erik Olsson abi, lmao, smh and so discriminately condemning a whole group of people, tar everyone one of them bad with the same brush, I guess is fair game to you both, isn't it Baba and letu?

donnie:
We were made in the likeness of the ancient of days with wooly hair.

Daniel 7:9
I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.

Revelation 1:14-15
His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.

The Most High put his description there so that false prophets cannot comman tell us lies.

You somehow missed where the scripture Revelation 1 v 14 said His HEAD and his hairs were white, but still conclude he’s a black man?

Na wa o.

MuttleyLaff:
So we now have it. Red herring tactic, is introduced, lmao.
negative approach. A lets and/or donnie intellect can only be toxic, oh yeah, it can argue, criticise and be sarcastic, but it cannot give anyone any good nourishment, especially when coming from a toxic standpoint no one can get any good nourishment from it lmao.

My message will always be toxic to the crooked and it'll give peace and life to those who love truth.

Matthew 19:17
...but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

Isaiah 3:11
Woe to the wicked; disaster is upon them! For they will be repaid with what their hands have done.

letu:
It has to do with the White folks leaving in American continent and their White relatives in Europe.

[img]https://s3/images/ObamaMuttley.gif[/img]
How does anyone make sense of this? Smh.

letu:
[img]https://s7/images/11744736_fuego1_jpegc1279438eeb1fdacd8942687149a33fc.jpg[/img]

Yes for once in your life you've said the truth, to those not so sure about his or her so called Native America which also has to do with what many people here, have been talking about it here in Nairaland

[img]https://s7/images/ChiefJosephZ2f7d17d65ddbbbfe.jpg[/img]

[img]https://s7/images/autochthon.jpg[/img]

Unfortunately you are consistent in peddling lies with passing this picture of a purported savage on one of the islands between Chile and Argentina picture you posted, as a Native American. This deception, is a perfect example of the misinformation, I am not allowing donnie and the likes of you, to perpetuate, unchallenged or unconfronted.

letu:
... and also those who are of African continent eg @ donnie's write-up on blacks of this planet Earth, which I will help with this pictures of Native America.

[img]https://s7/images/DiWWpdzV4AA3_Gg.jpg[/img]

I am not sure you will agree and accept that Native Americans unlike black skin Africans don't have kinky and/or woolly hair, lmao, so you shouldn't lump them together. They are like chalk and cheese or sugar and salt, look similar but aren't the same, lmao

MuttleyLaff:
Look at the question again here and tell me if you truly answered it :
"How did America get involved in the Transatlantic slave trade then because America wasn't originally part of the players in the "game" before 1619, huh?""

The Portuguese did not steal, that there, is one misinformation for you, but rather they paid for those African they carted away as slaves, and of which you are the descendants of.

Another misinformation, is that, you aren't a true born and real McCoy American because you aren't aboriginal to the US, you are aboriginal to Africa, lmao. Only the Native Americans/American Indians are aboriginal to America. Every other person on that soil are either descendants of immigrants or slaves lmao.

According you Americans where not part of the players but in truth beyond all ramifications, Americans or Whites in America where part of the buyers.

letu:
According you Americans where not part of the players but in truth beyond all ramifications, Americans or Whites in America where part of the buyers.

No, I never said anything like that or close to that. This is a case of you not understanding the question I asked donnie. Why has it proved difficult for you to repeat correctly the question I asked Baba about the US involvement in the transatlantic slave trade?

donnie:


Oh
Isn't Khemet whitish abi reddish again? ...confused fellow.

More black Chinese... Enjoy.

You mean black Asians because this people are not Chinese but are from one this Asian Islands.

MuttleyLaff:


[img]https://s7/images/5ac437638ae88726389d78ae559ddcf1.gif[/img]

Baba, again the poor history student/teacher, with more big fat lies. Mister d, that picture you misleadingly posted as black Chinese are actually Black Filipino girls, who are from among the indigenous peoples making up Philippines.

I am sure you can see the equator from the above picture passing through the Philippines and so realise the cause why they have black skin

Yes he made a mistake, besides nobody is above mistake inwhich it doesn't change the fact the people in the picture are Black Asians.

letu:
You mean black Asians because this people are not Chinese but are from one this Asian Islands.

Thank you for your honesty. I think we should get Baba a pair of reading glasses, lmao

letu:
Yes he made a mistake, besides nobody is above mistake inwhich it doesn't change the fact the people in the picture are Black Asians.

I know that Baba made a mistake. Baba has been making mistakes, right from day one.

Baba has been pushing unnecessary exaggerated lies, stoking the flames of a sense of inferiority complex and a sense of low self esteem of others, with all the inflammatory misinformation upandan the forum he has been pushing out.

donnie:
My message will always be toxic to the crooked and it'll give peace and life to those who love truth.

Matthew 19:17
...but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

Isaiah 3:11
Woe to the wicked; disaster is upon them! For they will be repaid with what their hands have done.

Lamentations 4:22, says:
“O beautiful Jerusalem, your punishment will end; you will soon return from exile. But Edom, your punishment is just beginning; soon your many sins will be exposed”
but I say to you Baba, aside all those falsely claiming to be the real true born and real McCoy Israelites, the Africans, the Ashkenazi Jews adding insult upon injury, adding salt to an open wound of grabbing Palestine for them selves under the guise of being Jews, you personally, donnie, soon, your many sins will be exposed. God will expose your many sins, one after the other. On that day, your mask will slip, your egungun (i.e. masquerade) will cross the busy expressway, without first looking left right and left again before safely crossing

You and the foot soldiers you lead, will be severely punished. God will punish all your iniquities

MuttleyLaff:
Why don't you use some efficient and good working brain cells to understand the question asked. Why is it proving difficult for you to repeat correctly the question I asked Baba about the US involvement in the transatlantic slave trade?

Okay, at lest I've tried answering your question now here is one for you, (1) there are importers that buy slave's directly from Africa and (2) those who are not into importation of slave's inwhich they based only in buying directly from those that import, I'm really interested in those that falls in my number 2 explanation, because many of this buyers were leaving in America so who are these people, where the Aliens or Humans, what did they address themselves as is it Whites, greens, blue's , Blacks? .

letu:
Okay, at lest I've tried answering your question now here is one for you,
(1) there are importers that buy slave's directly from Africa and
(2) those who are not into importation of slave's inwhich they based only in buying directly from those that import, I'm really interested in those that falls in my number 2 explanation, because many of this buyers were leaving in America so who these people, where the Aliens or Humans, what did they address themselves as is it Whites, greens, blue's, Blacks? .

[img]https://s7/images/AfricanIndianSlave0a6402494b107a86.jpg[/img]

If you had checked before posting this, you would have noticed that, I had edited out half the part of the original comment and it is since after, is different to what you've quoted above. I did the change because I had come to realise, for the honesty you displayed up there, that you seem to be level headed and fair minded person, so I just had to go back and change the original unnecessary harsh wording.

My dear friend, I think I've to some degree come to understand the gist of your #2 question, so here are my responses:
1/ I have already mentioned that aside the Native Americans, every other person on that soil are either descendants of immigrants or slaves. I gave the POTUS and FLOTUS, as examples, who both respectively, are descendants of German Lutheran and Slovenian immigrants extractions.
2/ Slaves, I am talking of chattel slavery here, meaning the traditional sense of slavery, slaves are treated as the chattel (i.e. personal property) of the owner and are bought or sold as commodities. Typically, under the chattel slave system, children of slaves born, inherit slave status and automatically become the property of the slave owner(s)
3/ letu, it would interest you to know and/or be aware, that aside some Native Americans being made slaves by white settlers, they the Native America too made slaves of captured enemy Native Americans and even black Africans, whom they saw as commodities, that can be exchanged for good and bare necessities from immoral and amoral white settlers
4/ The young girl, from above picture, who is in the middle with the red arrow pointing down on her, remember you posted that picture, actually is product of African slaves captured or taken by Native Americans

[img]https://s7/images/DiWWpdzV4AA3_Gg.jpg[/img]

I am not sure you will agree and accept that Native Americans unlike black skin Africans don't have kinky and/or woolly hair, lmao, so you shouldn't lump them together. They are like chalk and cheese or sugar and salt, look similar but aren't the same, lmao[/quote]

Who wants them to have wooly hair. You see your life?

MuttleyLaff:

4/ The young girl, from above picture, who is in the middle with the red arrow pointing down on her, remember you posted that picture, actually is product of African slaves captured or taken by Native Americans

See how you try to transfer a legacy of wickedness from Europeans to native Americans.

After European contact in the 1500s, white Europeans persuaded Native Americans to enslave members of other Native American tribes using the European method of slave-trading, which focused on the accumulation of captives for sale and thus, profit, rather than for population augmentation.
...the African transatlantic slave trade to the North American colonies drastically increased to account for the loss of Native American slaves.
...Some members of the Five Tribes became owners of enslaved black women and men themselves, as they increasingly adapted to Euro-American norms, such as style of dress and governmental structure.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/indepth/opinion/native-americans-adopted-slavery-white-settlers-181225180750948.html

We can see clearly who the cheif devil is. And about other nations conspiring to enslave ISRAELITES, it's nothing new. Even other Africans enslaved Bantus (Israelites). But Esau always takes the lead. Even in scripture, ESAU/EDOM is no.1 enemy.

Psalms 83:2-4,6
[2]For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head.
[3]They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones.
[4]They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.
[6] The tabernacles of Edom, and the Ishmaelites; of Moab, and the Hagarenes;

donnie:
Who wants them to have wooly hair ...

donnie:
These wicked children of Esau and their idiotic enslaved black worshipers even changed the image of angels to white and devils to black. What do you expect, when their god J-zee is white?

Meanwhile, scriptures describe the ancient of days as having negro-type hair like wool, and his angels as having skin like burnished brass.

Daniel 7:9
I beheld till the thrones were cast down,
and the Ancient of days did sit,
whose garment was white as snow,
and the hair of his head like the pure wool:
his throne was like the fiery flame,
and his wheels as burning fire.
Ezekiel 1
7 And their feet were straight feet;
and the sole of their feet was like the sole of a calf's foot:
and they sparkled like the colour of burnished brass.
8 And they had the hands of a man under their wings on their four sides;
and they four had their faces and their wings.

You must think you are better than the Spirit of YAH who revealed his color and looks to His servants.

Someone like you Baba, quite a number of times does need to have the hair be woolly. The above is an example, one out of many, where you proudly typed about the ancient of days having negro-type hair like wool.

donnie:
... You see your life?

Do you see your life now Baba?

donnie:
See how you try to transfer a legacy of wickedness from Europeans to native Americans.

After European contact in the 1500s, white Europeans persuaded Native Americans to enslave members of other Native American tribes using the European method of slave-trading, which focused on the accumulation of captives for sale and thus, profit, rather than for population augmentation.
...the African transatlantic slave trade to the North American colonies drastically increased to account for the loss of Native American slaves.
...Some members of the Five Tribes became owners of enslaved black women and men themselves, as they increasingly adapted to Euro-American norms, such as style of dress and governmental structure.

h t tps://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/indepth/opinion/native-americans-adopted-slavery-white-settlers-181225180750948.html

We can see clearly who the cheif devil is. And about other nations conspiring to enslave ISRAELITES, it's nothing new. Even other Africans enslaved Bantus (Israelites). But Esau always takes the lead. Even in scripture, ESAU/EDOM is no.1 enemy.

Psalms 83:2-4,6
[2]For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head.
[3]They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones.
[4]They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.
[6] The tabernacles of Edom, and the Ishmaelites; of Moab, and the Hagarenes;

[img]https://s3/images/ObamaMuttley.gif[/img]
What's he ranting & raving about over here now?

"Because the patriarchs were jealous of Joseph,
they sold him as a slave into Egypt.
But God was with him"
- Acts 7:9

"²⁶Then Judah said to his brothers, “What profit will we gain if we kill our brother and cover up his blood?
²⁷Come, let us sell him to the Ishmaelites and not lay a hand on him; for he is our brother, our own flesh.” And they agreed.
²⁸So when the Midianite traders passed by, his brothers pulled Joseph out of the pit
and sold him for twenty shekels of silver to the Ishmaelites, who took him to Egypt"
- Genesis 37:26-28

Baba, you want to thank YAH, because if not for God, I'll kick you in the teeth, while you lie down, inside there in the gutter, but I'll just prod you a bit with Acts 7:9 and Genesis 37:26-28, then ask you the question, was it white Europeans, who conspired with the patriarchs and got them to gang up against their very own flesh and blood, brother, Joseph, first to kill him, before later on settling and then agreeing to sell Joseph, their flesh and blood brother, who happened to be their father's favourite son, into slavery to the travelling merchants, the Ishmaelites, smh, hmm?. This Baba has no shame at all.

Baba, must have been an ex band member of Bob Marley RIP and the Wailers, lmao

MuttleyLaff:
was it white Europeans, who conspired with the patriarchs and got them to gang up against their very own flesh and blood, brother, Joseph, first to kill him, before later on settling and then agreeing to sell Joseph, their flesh and blood brother, who happened to be their father's favourite son, into slavery to the travelling merchants, the Ishmaelites, smh, hmm[/b]?. This Baba has no shame at all.

Baba, must have been an ex band member of Bob Marley RIP and the Wailers, lmao

We have all suffered and do suffer the consequences of our actions. ESAU will get his full reward according to the scriptures.

donnie:
We have all suffered an do suffer the consequences of our actions.
ESAU will get his full reward according to the scriptures.

[img]https://s1/images/MuttAmin.gif[/img]
Baba, trying to get up during the ten count,
from a mean right upper hook punch, lmao
Be busy (i.e. being under satan's yoke) blaming the whiteman for all your self inflicted woes, OK.
For all your sins, acts of idolatry, acts of adultery, unfaithfulnesses, treacheries, selling your innocent brother into slavery et cetera you are reaping what you sowed and suffering the consequence of those acts, all that before everyone else and until the time is fulfilled for others to get their full reward

boniga:
This should go to front page people should know these things. Whites are no better people than us.

Lalasticlala

You are joking right?

thank you guys for this thread. I love it. please don't stop o. keep it going.

growtogeda:
thank you guys for this thread. I love it. please don't stop o. keep it going.

If I were to remain silent, I will be guilty of complicity, so is why, I am chasing and running Baba to the edge of the blackhole.

I'll keep coming back at him, until he crawls all the way into that miry abominable darkest pit of a blackhole place, he's well suited to be in

MuttleyLaff:
If I were to remain silent, I will be guilty of complicity, so is why, I am chasing and running Baba to the edge of the blackhole.

I'll keep coming back at him, until he crawls all the way into that miry abominable darkest place pit of a blackhole, he is well suited at, to be in

I enjoyed your arguments bro. I have heathy from you and baba. questions must truly be asked and answers must be given.
Both of you made the thread interesting, I swear.

but up till now, I don't know your stance. are you just here to counter everything Donnie writes?

MuttleyLaff:


Someone like you Baba, quite a number of times does need to have the hair be woolly. The above is an example, one out of many, where you proudly typed about the ancient of days having negro-type hair like wool.

Do you see your life now Baba?

Did I claim that native Americans were Israelites? Even though some may have, but I haven't. Na everything you wan use make point? Hmm

growtogeda:


I enjoyed your arguments bro. I have heathy from you and baba. questions must truly be asked and answers must be given.
Both of you made the thread interesting, I swear.

but up till now, I don't know your stance. are you just here to counter everything Donnie writes?

My brother, even if I say he is a handsome guy, he will argue against.

growtogeda:
I enjoyed your arguments bro. I have heathy from you and baba. questions must truly be asked and answers must be given.
Both of you made the thread interesting, I swear.

but up till now, I don't know your stance. are you just here to counter everything Donnie writes?

Baba has no iota of truth in him. If Baba shakes your hand, you better count your fingers after finishing the handshake, just to be sure there are all still there complete and intact. Baba can even steal your identity. Baba will go to any length, will tell big fat lies, will post misleading photos, will deliberately give wrong information et cetera all in the quest to push a black supremacy agenda

It doesnt cost anything to simply say the truth, but not with exaggeration and/or sensationalising the truth. I am not going to stand by and watch Baba have a free rein and field day to hoodwink unsuspecting posters with his garbage rhetoric, glib, dishonest, untruthful and unholy dark gospel

donnie:
Did I claim that native Americans were Israelites? Even though some may have, but I haven't. Na everything you wan use make point? Hmm

Its everything. I will even throw the kitchen sink too at you too. Nonsense and ingredients

donnie:

My brother, even if I say he is a handsome guy, he will argue against.

Vanity upon vanity, all is vanity
You think, I am the vain type abi. Who handsome epp.

MuttleyLaff:
Vanity upon vanity, all is vanity
You think, I am the vain type abi. Who handsome epp.

I told you

donnie:
I told you

Baba produce "pishures" with black faces, circa 6th century or even 10th century period now. That one na mission impossible for you, lmao, even James Bond, them no born am reach produce any, lmao.

Moses and King David

Now we know SHEM (ISRAEL's ancestor) was black because ELAM the son of SHEM had descendants who painted the images you see below. These Elamites, descendants of SHEM, painted themselves on the walls of SUSA, located in modern day Iran. They painted themselves as black people.

donnie:
Now we know SHEM (ISRAEL's ancestor) was black because ELAM the son of SHEM had descendants who painted the images you see below. These Elamites, descendants of SHEM, painted themselves on the walls of SUSA, located in modern day Iran. They painted themselves as black people.

MuttleyLaff:
Baba produce "pishures" with black faces, circa 6th century or even 10th century period now.
That one na mission impossible for you, lmao,
even James Bond, them no born am reach produce any, lmao.

[img]https://s7/images/mosaic-panel-2-abe-angels.jpg[/img]
The Hospitality of Abraham, c. 432–440, mosaic,
at sanctuary, Church of Santa Maria Maggiore, Rome (Italy)
- based on Genesis 18
where Abraham & Sarah are visited by 3 messengers (i.e. God)

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[img]https://s7/images/Christ_with_beard.jpg[/img]
Mural painting from the catacomb of Commodilla.
One of the first bearded images of Jesus, late 4th century.

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[img]https://s7/images/58810-004-7FC30CE1.jpg[/img]
An early 5th-century mosaic in a semicircular portion of a church in Rome
shows Christ, the Apostles, and the four evangelists (i.e. the Tetramorph represented by the beasts)


[img]https://s7/images/800px-Apsis_mosaic2C_Santa_Pudenziana2C_Rome_W3.jpg[/img]
Christ Pantocrator in a Roman mosaic
in the church of Santa Pudenziana, Rome, c. 400–410 AD (i.e. Enlarged version of pic above it)