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Black South African Leaders Should Be Commended For Developments Post Apartheid by Nobody: 12:54pm On Jun 22, 2020
Black South African leaders should be commended for the developments post apartheid for maintaining and expanding on the well planned road network, excellent transport system,education system, public health arrangement, robust humanitarian and welfare package for citizens.

I used to be one of the ignorant Nigerians that attributed all the development of South Africa to the Dutch settlers. And failed to acknowledge the role of black South African leaders, who have made their country not only the prime tourist destination on the African continent, but also the country most Africans want to immigrate for a better life.

South Africans leaders are able to attend to their medical needs within the country and send their children to attend universities within the country to receive world class education.

Most importantly they have expanded on the megawatts of electricity produced in the country. According to the Ministry of Energy, South Africa's total domestic electricity generation capacity is 46,577 megawatts (MW) from all sources. This pales in comparison to Nigeria, which since 1960 has struggled with electricity for it's 200 million population and has the potential to generate 12,522 megawatts (MW) of electric power from existing plants, but most days is only able to generate around 4,000 MW, which is insufficient.

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Re: Black South African Leaders Should Be Commended For Developments Post Apartheid by Nobody: 12:54pm On Jun 22, 2020
TMKsouth,IronGalaxy,BOOMNAIJA,LeSudAfricaine

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Re: Black South African Leaders Should Be Commended For Developments Post Apartheid by LeSudAfricaine: 1:02pm On Jun 22, 2020
RuudVanNisteroy:
TMKsouth,IronGalaxy,BOOMNAIJA,LeSudAfricaine
Unless you want us to battle your white-washed brothers.

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Re: Black South African Leaders Should Be Commended For Developments Post Apartheid by Nobody: 1:05pm On Jun 22, 2020
LeSudAfricaine:
Unless you want us to battle your white-washed brothers.
That is the narrative we have been led to believe. I know know better.

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Re: Black South African Leaders Should Be Commended For Developments Post Apartheid by sweetsell: 1:07pm On Jun 22, 2020
RuudVanNisteroy:
TMKsouth,IronGalaxy,BOOMNAIJA,LeSudAfricaine
Na tiday your morning break. Beta you send additional warming to fools claiming South africans are lazy even when we can see they built a country 5 million beta than Nigeria.

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Re: Black South African Leaders Should Be Commended For Developments Post Apartheid by Nobody: 1:07pm On Jun 22, 2020
You guys should take it easy man. Nigerians don't care about all this unnecessary information, graphs and stats. cheesy grin

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Re: Black South African Leaders Should Be Commended For Developments Post Apartheid by LeSudAfricaine: 1:07pm On Jun 22, 2020
RuudVanNisteroy:

That is the narrative we have been led to believe. I know know better.
why do you Nigerians love white people so much? I'm honestly intrigued by this, maybe you can shed light

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Re: Black South African Leaders Should Be Commended For Developments Post Apartheid by Nobody: 1:21pm On Jun 22, 2020
LeSudAfricaine:
why do you Nigerians love white people so much? I'm honestly intrigued by this, maybe you can shed light
We have never had a Nigerian political leader to look up to who meant well for the country and who wanted to see the country develop.

You had Mandela- a world icon. Who united your country and maintained and expanded on the developments post apartheid.
Re: Black South African Leaders Should Be Commended For Developments Post Apartheid by donbachi(m): 1:21pm On Jun 22, 2020
46,577 megawatts.while nigeria is still struggling with 3k something megawatts..the one that pains me the most,is the supplying of power to niger republic,chad,ghana and benin republic.when nigeria cannot boast of 2hours steady light..thing of shame.

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Re: Black South African Leaders Should Be Commended For Developments Post Apartheid by Nobody: 1:22pm On Jun 22, 2020
donbachi:
46,577 megawatts.while nigeria is still 3k something megawatts..the one that pains me the most,is the supplying of power to niger republic,chad,ghana and benin republic.when nigeria cannot boast of 2hours steady light..thing of shame.
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Re: Black South African Leaders Should Be Commended For Developments Post Apartheid by LeSudAfricaine: 1:23pm On Jun 22, 2020
RuudVanNisteroy:

We have never had a Nigerian political leader to look up to who meant well for the country and who wanted to see the country develop.

You had Mandela- a world icon.
It still doesn't quite explain your love for the white man though
Re: Black South African Leaders Should Be Commended For Developments Post Apartheid by Nobody: 1:24pm On Jun 22, 2020
Even though I believe south Africa is very better than nigeria by far, i and most nigerians don't still rate the people (blacks in it).

Rwanda people have more rating than black south Africans...
Re: Black South African Leaders Should Be Commended For Developments Post Apartheid by LeSudAfricaine: 1:25pm On Jun 22, 2020
I see you have a pic of Zuma there, that man was a monumental disaster in my humble opinion

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Re: Black South African Leaders Should Be Commended For Developments Post Apartheid by LeSudAfricaine: 1:26pm On Jun 22, 2020
TheGodlessGod:
Even though I believe south Africa is very better than nigeria by far, i and most nigerians don't still rate the people (blacks in it).

Rwanda people have more rating than black south Africans...
Because you'd rather be hit by a bus than give black South Africans their due, you're conforming to a usual pattern.

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Re: Black South African Leaders Should Be Commended For Developments Post Apartheid by Nobody: 1:29pm On Jun 22, 2020
LeSudAfricaine:
Because you'd rather be hit by a bus than give black South Africans their due, you're conforming to a usual pattern.
nah. Black south Africans are really known as weaklings even though nigerians don't talk or think about them.

An average nigerian knows south Africa economy is controlled by whites and most lands and companies there are founded or owned by whites.

That's why it's funny to many nigerians seeing how black south Africans are the ones bragging about white people achievements. It makes them look stupid

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Re: Black South African Leaders Should Be Commended For Developments Post Apartheid by Nobody: 1:33pm On Jun 22, 2020
LeSudAfricaine:
It still doesn't quite explain your love for the white man though
I think it is partly due to the belief we would have been better off as country if they stayed maybe 20-30 years longer. We got independence from the British in 1960 and we have not fared better under self rule due to epidemic corruption.
Re: Black South African Leaders Should Be Commended For Developments Post Apartheid by LeSudAfricaine: 1:46pm On Jun 22, 2020
TheGodlessGod:
nah. Black south Africans are really known as weaklings even though nigerians don't talk or think about them.

An average nigerian knows south Africa economy is controlled by whites and most lands and companies there are founded or owned by whites.

T[b]hat's why it's funny to many nigerians seeing how black south Africans are the ones bragging about white people achievements[/b]. It makes them look stupid
The problem with you people, again is this over-emphasis of this so-called 'white-achievement" for one, South Africa is not even a black and white country only it's a multiracial country like the US, South African Indians, colored people are also doing a lot to push their country forward, of course, you wouldn't know that right? because white people occupy the mind of a Nigerian the most. it's like saying African Americans have never had a hand on the building of the US which is downright stupid. How can you claim we brag about the achievements of whites while development is still happening under a black government? Must we not be proud of our successful hosting of the 2010 World Cup for example, of which SAFA (a black led entity) made bid to host, of which a black govt executed and poured money into, black labor built stadia, black architects, engineers, media people etc involved as well. A Nigerian will go and check the white man behind the scenes who was involved in the payrol of labour workers to give him all the credit. Stupid. In a Nigerian's mind even things which that have nothing to do with whites are white achievements, which to me point on two things 1 envy 2 inferiority complex

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Re: Black South African Leaders Should Be Commended For Developments Post Apartheid by LeSudAfricaine: 1:47pm On Jun 22, 2020
RuudVanNisteroy:

I think it has partly due to the belief we would have been better off as country if they stayed maybe 20-30 years longer. We got independence from the British in 1960 and we have not fared better under self rule due to epidemic corruption.
There's still corruption in the South African govt too and it hasn't gone away because there's a presence of whites. they are corrupt too!
Re: Black South African Leaders Should Be Commended For Developments Post Apartheid by Nobody: 1:58pm On Jun 22, 2020
LeSudAfricaine:
The problem with you people, again is this over-emphasis of this so-called 'white-achievement" for one, South Africa is not even a black and white country only it's a multiracial country like the US, South African Indians, colored people are also doing a lot to push their country forward, of course, you wouldn't know that right? because white people occupy the mind of a Nigerian the most. it's like saying African Americans have never had a hand on the building of the US which is downright stupid. How can you claim we brag about the achievements of whites while development is still happening under a black government? Must we not be proud of our successful hosting of the 2010 World Cup for example, of which SAFA (a black led entity) made bid to host, of which a black govt executed and poured money into, black labor built stadia, black architects involved as well etc . A Nigerian will go and check the white man behind the scenes who was involved in the payrol of labour workers to give him all the credit. Stupid. In a Nigerian's mind even things which that have nothing to do with whites are white achievements, which to me point on two things 1 envy 2 inferiority complex

USA is multi racial because of slave trade, India isn't multi racial. South Africa is one of few country they worship and adore their colonizers.

Nigerians are better than south africa in any human positive department, that's a fact.

South Africa is better than nigeria, that's also fact.

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Re: Black South African Leaders Should Be Commended For Developments Post Apartheid by LeSudAfricaine: 2:10pm On Jun 22, 2020
TheGodlessGod:


USA is multi racial because of slave trade, India isn't multi racial. South Africa is one of few country[b] they worship and adore their colonizers.[/b]

Nigerians are better than south africa in any human positive department, that's a fact.

South Africa is better than nigeria, that's also fact.
South Africa is also multi-racial due to slave trade (the problem with this forum is arguing with clueless people who don't read) Indians, for example, were brought by the D.E.I.C (Dutch East India Company) to work at the sugar cane fields, the Malaysians as well, who are the ancestors of what is now called " Cape Malays". French Huguenots were also by Jan van Riebeck brought to work as slaves, The Afrikanners are direct descendants of these huegenots and the dutch. Multi-culturism was achieved the same everywhere, how do you think blacks arrived in Brasil?

@bolded. I see the worship from you, you still think building a proper road requires white people grin

the other points are honestly not worth my time

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Re: Black South African Leaders Should Be Commended For Developments Post Apartheid by Minxie(f): 2:19pm On Jun 22, 2020
The problem is that most people think that black and colored people in SA had nothing. The actual reason black people (all POCs) in SA don't praise white people is because we know most of what they built wasn't really built by them. Land was taken away from people. This wasn't empty barren land but these were already farms. White people came here and didn't know anything about farming in the climate. They took away the local land and made them work for them while paying them with alcohol. The white farmer had no expertise, they exploited the black people, Khoisan, malay, indians etc and claimed all those achievements for themselves.

Schools were built by black people and it was destroyed by the white rule. Black people had their houses taken away in many areas that you now think was developed by whites. Black people created so many things for themselves that were absolutely destroyed by the apartheid government. So we know our worth. We therefore get very upset when other black people claim whites developed South Africa.

I'm sorry that things aren't working out in Nigeria and I truly wish you the best, but you should blame yourselves for the lack of good governance and not the entire black race.

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Re: Black South African Leaders Should Be Commended For Developments Post Apartheid by rationalhuman(m): 2:25pm On Jun 22, 2020
Since when India became Mono Racial country? See below, its multiracial , Multi Lingual, Multi Religious, Multi Ethnicity Country.
Indo-Aryan
Aryo-Dravidian
Proto-Austroloid
Scytho-Dravidian
Paleo-Mediterraneans
The Turk-Iranian
Dravidian
Tibeto-Mongoloids
Mongoloid
Mongol-Dravidians'
Mediterrenian
Western Brynchephals
Indo Nordic

TheGodlessGod:


USA is multi racial because of slave trade, India isn't multi racial. South Africa is one of few country they worship and adore their colonizers.

Nigerians are better than south africa in any human positive department, that's a fact.

South Africa is better than nigeria, that's also fact.

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Re: Black South African Leaders Should Be Commended For Developments Post Apartheid by Nobody: 2:27pm On Jun 22, 2020
rationalhuman:
Since when India became Mono Racial country? See below, its multiracial , Multi Lingual, Multi Religious, Multi Ethnicity Country.
Indo-Aryan
Aryo-Dravidian
Proto-Austroloid
Scytho-Dravidian
Paleo-Mediterraneans
The Turk-Iranian
Dravidian
Tibeto-Mongoloids
Mongoloid
Mongol-Dravidians'
Mediterrenian
Western Brynchephals
Indo Nordic

India is one of the most diverse countries in the world.

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Re: Black South African Leaders Should Be Commended For Developments Post Apartheid by LeSudAfricaine: 4:56pm On Jun 22, 2020
RuudVanNisteroy:

India is one of the most diverse countries in the world.
Nah, can you tell Indians apart ? India is homogenous like China. China has many many ethncities like the Zhuang, Hui,Manchu, Han, Tibetan, Mongol, Dong, Bai, Buei etc. but can you tell them apart? No, because they are largely homogenous. True diversity imo is racial, then we can talk about countries like Brasil,The US, RSA etc

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Re: Black South African Leaders Should Be Commended For Developments Post Apartheid by rationalhuman(m): 6:15pm On Jun 22, 2020
Yes i can tell apart, Many could.
But question is have you seen them all from various races? You may have seen 1, 2 races that is why you think all are the same.

They are completely different in every aspect. Most of the People here we see are from Southern parts with darker complexion and not tall.

when went there first time, I always thought why so many Chinese and Mongolian students in Dairy Technology class?, Later i found they are from their North eastern parts.

I have never been to place where you can see so much diversity.

LeSudAfricaine:
Nah, can you tell Indians apart ? India is homogenous like China. China has many many ethncities like the Zhuang, Hui,Manchu, Han, Tibetan, Mongol, Dong, Bai, Buei etc. but can you tell them apart? No, because they are largely homogenous. True diversity imo is racial, then we can talk about countries like Brasil,The US, RSA etc
Re: Black South African Leaders Should Be Commended For Developments Post Apartheid by Nobody: 12:04am On Jun 23, 2020
LeSudAfricaine:
Nah, can you tell Indians apart ? India is homogenous like China. China has many many ethncities like the Zhuang, Hui,Manchu, Han, Tibetan, Mongol, Dong, Bai, Buei etc. but can you tell them apart? No, because they are largely homogenous. True diversity imo is racial, then we can talk about countries like Brasil,The US, RSA etc
Indians are not homogenous. They are light skinned in the north and dark skinned in the south.

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Re: Black South African Leaders Should Be Commended For Developments Post Apartheid by TMKsouth: 1:51am On Jun 23, 2020
Minxie:

I'm sorry that things aren't working out in Nigeria and I truly wish you the best, but you should blame yourselves for the lack of good governance and not the entire black race.

Dont waste your sympathy on non-entities like this godless character that can't even use Google. He just uses it for porn and scamming. grin
You're too nice Minxie - you remind me of myself when I first started out here. But I quickly learnt you can't reason politely with pompous people who are nonetheless very envious of SA. That's why they single out black SA for insults while white SA business robs them senseless on their own homesoil in Nigeria.

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Re: Black South African Leaders Should Be Commended For Developments Post Apartheid by vioment: 7:49am On Jun 23, 2020
Akuko(story).



They are bums, can you imagine a wide spread mumu people more than Nigeria.


They should be worshipping the whites in their country, that have put them on the industrial side of the global column.

Blacks including SA blacks are still incompetent in running a 2 Star country.

@op, SA blacks don't even know how to comprehend and decipher anything average talk less of complex.

If not for white south Africans, the blacks there would be in internal wars, they would be flooding their neighbors and Nigeria.
Re: Black South African Leaders Should Be Commended For Developments Post Apartheid by Minxie(f): 8:04am On Jun 23, 2020
TMKsouth:


Dont waste your sympathy on non-entities like this godless character that can't even use Google. He just uses it for porn and scamming. grin
You're too nice Minxie - you remind me of myself when I first started out here. But I quickly learnt you can't reason politely with pompous people who are nonetheless very envious of SA. That's why they single out black SA for insults while white SA business robs them senseless on their own homesoil in Nigeria.


Yeah but if I reply with whatever I actually want to say, they wouldn't understand half of the words grin So I'm spicing it up by being nice for a change grin We must mos behave in other people's homes. you know mos

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Re: Black South African Leaders Should Be Commended For Developments Post Apartheid by jesmond3945: 12:21pm On Jun 23, 2020
donbachi:
46,577 megawatts.while nigeria is still struggling with 3k something megawatts..the one that pains me the most,is the supplying of power to niger republic,chad,ghana and benin republic.when nigeria cannot boast of 2hours steady light..thing of shame.
I think we have to go back to our coal mines
Re: Black South African Leaders Should Be Commended For Developments Post Apartheid by Nobody: 1:49pm On Jun 23, 2020
vioment:
Akuko(story).



They are bums, can you imagine a wide spread mumu people more than Nigeria.


They should be worshipping the whites in their country, that have put them on the industrial side of the global column.

Blacks including SA blacks are still incompetent in running a 2 Star country.

@op, SA blacks don't even know how to comprehend and decipher anything average talk less of complex.

If not for white south Africans, the blacks there would be in internal wars, they would be flooding their neighbors and Nigeria.
You are a racist and should bleach your skin.
Re: Black South African Leaders Should Be Commended For Developments Post Apartheid by TMKsouth: 2:35pm On Jun 23, 2020
Minxie:


Yeah but if I reply with whatever I actually want to say, they wouldn't understand half of the words grin So I'm spicing it up by being nice for a change grin We must mos behave in other people's homes. you know mos

Yes, we're holding back but it's difficult with these ones. We're not cut from the same cloth. Common sense is not that common. Best of luck with holding it in - can't wait to see you explode, it's just a matter of time ! grin grin

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