techmo:


Step into the real world and see, most firms don't need coding of project always, except for the likes of NASA, Google , Facebook etc

Most firms need an all-round IT guy

For instance a 5 star hotel (grand Excelsior/ Holliday Inn) Abu Shagara Sharjah in UAE offered a job for a MIS ERP design and implementation project that lasted less than 6 months and upon project completion the HR made it clear what their new IT needs are, and only offered Full Employment for few C.S guys why booting out the Indian coders

how much is average salary for programmers in dubai

philip0906:

For a programmer who was earning 50k, earning 70k per month would have been seen as a blessing, don't you think?

Go and learn programming and not website design, so you can stop clowning around.

What are the programming languages, one needs to start with and end with

Eddee:


I'm going to reproduce an exact answer I gave someone on here a while ago. Offer is still valid!

"Start building your accounting skills - professional certification is great if you can afford the ICAN classes. If not learn how to use Quickbooks/SAGE, since you have an Accounting background, brush up on your financial reporting for Not for Profits.

While you are it, take online courses on procurement/supply chain and taxation (basic treatments of income tax and WHT will suffice for now).

Show proof of progress in 6 months and remind me of this thread, I will guarantee you a physical interview for a project that starts next year."

Not for profit??

I hear say na blood money dem dey pack for dia

Una no need engineers ni?

Some people still don’t know what the difference between a Software Engineer and a programmer is.

thebigkendo:


Not for profit??

I hear say na blood money dem dey pack for dia

Una no need engineers ni?

Baba, no be all NGOs hold am stand o! The CBOs/CSOs are mostly SSRs and can't afford to pay you above 100k due to budget constraints. However, they are the perfect learning and proving grounds, they usually have diverse thematic focus - that means you end up learning about programming that relates to Livelihoods, Cash Based Initiatives, Health, Education, WASH, TB, HIV, OVC, Camp Management, SGBV, Justice and Rights etc. The INGOs and SRs (Sub Recipients) are usually focused on one programming need at a time and will require people with proficient skills in that regard, also they can pay the fat salaries because they receive funding from institutional donors and can afford a huge wage bill. You can't work for any of them without the prerequisite experience or the equivalent in connections.

Downside: projects are contract based. You're always on the lookout for the next big job, I've worked in Maiduguri as recently as 2 years ago, Yola as recently as 15 months ago. My last job contract was Takum/Gembu Taraba ended in November, last year. Secured the bag for another starting next year January. So, I'm currently unemployed but living off the fruits of my earlier labor. And yes, engineers can get work but you must be prepared to look at the North East for opportunities.

Henrymorre:
don't mind this fellow. Amd is the leading cpu now. Any Core i3 or i5 out there, you will see a faster and better AMD than it at a cheaper price. Be guided.

Wise one, you don't need to dim, just say your opinion, man.

dibornqueen:
If you are really good at the language or know your work very well it's stable, i can even say it's over stable sef, i have a friend who is doing two programming jobs together freelancing, before Coronavirus pandemic even with world wide lock downs and closure he is still working and getting paid almost 2M per month and some companies in lekki are begging him to work for them for pay of almost 600k per month. So it boils down to how good you are, if you really good at it you will never lack good paying jobs except there isn't anything as technology again

Programming pays

Someone said Indian has 1billion coders yet many of them won't let me rest. I have resorted to blocking most of them.

Programming really pays but you have to work for it. It won't come easy.

Ayemileto:
Well, I personally work as a freelancer on fiverr and seoclerks.

The thing is, if you are good, most people who give you project will come back with more.

Just that for some time now, I have stopped accepting projects (including from returning customers) because the pay is not really encouraging.

I currently stay in Akure but I'm hoping to move to Lagos or Abuja soon sha.

Bro biko i will like to learn from you .where in akr are u biko

Hmmm
Have you tried this before,using money for connects and applying for jobs like crax ? Has it worked for you or someone you know ?

tensazangetsu20:

Yes that's the Koko. If you can set down 50000 naira for connects and apply to jobs like a mad man you will make that money back 10 times.

philip0906:

You're a clown. Where in the original post did you state that his new job pays him 120k and free lunch?

Which sane programmer would take another programmer who earns 50k serious?

Yeah but not always true. Some devs are not really bothered about the money.

I used to commute 7hrs a day for a 50k job around Jan - Mar. I took the job because I wanted to meet new people and luckily for me, I met great personalities there.

Raustin:
Hmmm
Have you tried this before,using money for connects and applying for jobs like crax ? Has it worked for you or someone you know ?

Yes it did. That was when I was marketing though. I am learning to code so I don't apply to jobs anymore. Changed my profile to that of a full stack developer and I have gotten Invites to apply to jobs. Something that didn't even happen as a marketer. Upwork works but you have to treat it like real life not applying to 5 jobs not getting any and coming and abusing the site.

techtechh:

Which programming language?

PHP, Python (Django).

benjijosh:


Yeah but not always true. Some devs are not really bothered about the money.

I used to commute 7hrs a day for a 50k job around Jan - Mar. I took the job because I wanted to meet new people and luckily for me, I met great personalities there.

Which devs are not bothered about money? Lemao...

That devs are well paid, is not a function of choice but skill set, experience and the premium placed on their skills by market forces (average earnings in the industry, demand and supply of programmers), which in turn means they'll always command good wages.

If you decided to get a job of 50k, it had nothing to do with the above as you most likely didn't fit into the criteria to earn more than 50k.

Any programmer earning less than 100k is not a serious person. Even freelancing alone can generate that monthly comfortably, a good WordPress guy can't go a month without a single job worth like 30k so what are you saying.

Harnny:
Not sure I have ever seen a developer earning less than 100k. My organization pays at least 120 even for interns. We scarce man....especially the really good ones. One of my colleague earns 600k and he does nothing. He has been earning that for over 3 years. Not to even mention the side projects...for those who knows the code name...PP

Name of your org, please I would like to be an intern.

Eddee:


I am a chartered accountant, I have a niche and that pays my bills and keeps my family happy - I've never wanted too much from this life!

I'ld love to be your student sir. I'm still in practice but it seems I gotta change plan cus it's not really going the path I thought.

Eddee:


I wasn't paid at my first job 7 years ago! I interned for free, The UN didn't pay volunteers then. First you learn then you remove the L!

Is the volunteer work related to programming? If yes, please can I know the name of the program so that I can apply in the future.

vickertony:

Sorry I'm asking,what niche is that?
I myself,I'm an accountant but not chartered yet.

That's what I'm also interested in because it he might have a different niche

post=91151786:
Nooo, they are not!

Some areas and experience levels may differ,
or maybe just his current experience level is the 'ish.
But CS unemployment is half that of unemployment for all jobs.
In short, programming jobs are not unstable,
they are high in demand.
Overall, it's a competitive market for sure,
and it's certainly isn't going to become any easier.
It's still very possible to shape a successful,
An enjoyable career in the web development industry.
It just may take slightly more time and input than it did before.

All the very best in his career.


We think your friend is one of the youngest among us @[color=#006600][/color].
Kindly identify yourself plssss! 1E287LH6SszJQjuZvjSQV8VAcDKi6xx2Nn


Meanwhile,
To the question below this post......
Here are your best bets......

TheAppBuilder.
Good Barber.
Appy Pie.
AppMachine.

They work for us always.
Interesting apps.

Good Luck!

Bro, I know you're on it.

lekki1444:
there are 1 billion programmers in india alone. it is a very unstable job if you are not good. but if you are perfect ? like you can bang out codes ass easy as you breath air ? the sky is the limit. question is how many people can get that good ? most people will not get that good because thhe motivation is the money and not the love of it. you are competing against 14 year old geeks who view coding like sex lol. they get orgasms from coding. you get orgasms from the money you think coding brings.

If there are 1 billion programmer in India, what is the population of the whole India?

Please I need help and direction. I want to go into programming. Where would I start from at what point can I say I've reached a supposed apex? Please quote me while replying

Karlebolu:


If there are 1 billion programmer in India, what is the population of the whole India?

1.4 billion

Lmao this is me

Ayemileto:
Well, I personally work as a freelancer on fiverr and seoclerks.

The thing is, if you are good, most people who give you project will come back with more.

Just that for some time now, I have stopped accepting projects (including from returning customers) because the pay is not really encouraging.

I currently stay in Akure but I'm hoping to move to Lagos or Abuja soon sha.

Sir are you self taught or you learnt at an institution?

I'm self taught but I dont seem to be making progresess.And institutions are expensive

benebaby77:


If he's very good at what he does and delivers good and timely job for a client, he will surely earn and learn more.

The issue is how to get the clients

avalon7:


The issue is how to get the clients

Facebook ads, Google ads, linkedin ads, Upwork, fiverr etc.

You have to be good with a broad skill set, or have a rare specialization. However, many companies simply don't want to pay a good salary, so that's debatable. One of the reasons coding is so promoted is companies want to saturate the market and pay little to nothing. They would also rather pay people who barely know what they're doing (Indians) scraps than pay qualified people. The "shortages" (developers, nurses, engineers, doctors) they speak of is just a lie for "we don't want to pay you."

Harnny:
Not sure I have ever seen a developer earning less than 100k. My organization pays at least 120 even for interns. We scarce man....especially the really good ones. One of my colleague earns 600k and he does nothing. He has been earning that for over 3 years. Not to even mention the side projects...for those who knows the code name...PP

oga this is Nigerian,anything is possible........even medical doctors are not left out.

eph12:

Like I said, it takes a lot of scaled skillset and mental preparations to be successful at most of the remote jobs interviews. Someone just starting or someone that's currently earning 50k monthly tells me that he's not that ready yet.

I'm on upwork so I know how it works. It's not that easy to get jobs unless you have trusted clients that keep using you

Please can you tell me what kind of people and firms you consider as potential clients and what kinda projects they offer?

grossintel:
Any programmer earning less than 100k is not a serious person. Even freelancing alone can generate that monthly comfortably, a good WordPress guy can't go a month without a single job worth like 30k so what are you saying.

Simple!