goldmatrix:
All these is just for that 10% ..nothing again like salvation preach in churches which is the sole purpose Christ came for. Now everyone who can mutter a word from the Bible wants to fly his/her private jet.. Criminals

HedwigesMaduro:


Actually I read it and agreed with all you said. And I knew you missed the sarcasm. I pray God will open the eyes of those men worshipers before it's too late.

BackllGodNaija:
Amen! But I hope you're not being sarcastic again oh because I'm gonna miss it again oh, lol! .
That said, speaking of Nigerians, you speak as though you're not one of us?

HedwigesMaduro:


I'm a Nigerian actually, but I see some common traits in Nigerians that get me pissed a lot. That's why I use "Nigerian" as a word to describe anyone exhibiting those traits. It's got to a point that on some social media platforms (eg goal.com, Reddit etc) if someone makes a silly comment or an illogical argument you'll get at least one person that'll just say "forget the guy. He's Nigerian". Which means others have started noticing those traits too.

HedwigesMaduro:


I don't know how straight forward simple logic flies over people's head. You are free to continue your brainwashed manipulated life. Not my problem. Like I told the guy that wrote an analysis trying to open people's eyes to the scam, it's prayers you guys need. No scripture will convince a brainwashed mind. I can see atheist rich men continuing in their poverty too. SMH.

sowilli:
why are you are bothered about how a man decides to spend his money? As long as people are happy tithing please leave them alone! Eish, mind your own life and how you spend your own money

HARDDON:


was tithe listed as part of the law?

Does Christ's death, redeeming us from sin, stop 'seed time and harvest?' or the Rainbow, and so many other things listed in the old testament?

Have you not read that even the Pharisees, worse sets of sinners in Christ's despensation , paid tithe?
Did Jesus Christ himself not sit and watch as people cast their offerings where he noticed that the poor widow gave much more than every other person?
Why would he sit to observe giving if it wasn't important?

Read what Christ told the Pharisees in Matthew 23:23:

"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices--mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law--justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former".

Like I said, I hate splitting hairs on this matter. Do what works for you. But, the fact remains that one verse of the scripture cannot break the other. Neither can you wish away tithing.
This is a ploy to blindfold people and have them in perpetual bondage and financial lack and want. those who are wise see thru the veil.

The gospel must reach the ends of the earth ( alot of funds is needed for that) and God's Church would keep moving whether you pay your tithe or not.


The evil forces behind these attack on churches know what they are doing.
Why was nobody complaining about tithing when the church was asleep financially and got jeer at with statements as " as poor as a church rat?"

Politicians like it when fake pastors go begging them for money. but suddenly, the church has now woken up financially, and all the undue influence they had over pastors, suddenly ceased. They want that influence back but it is not going to happen ever again. Now, they attack the church

afroxyz:
Instead of you to channel these spiritual.powers agu at those holding the country down you guys are busy telling us to being money to church to receive blessing.

What blessing are we talking about for Christ sake? To drive cars when your neighbour is wallowing in poverty? Or send your kids abroad when the system is not functional and millions are suffering.

You guys are part of the problem.

I'm sure you guys love the fact that poverty is rife in the land so that you can continue fleecing people of their money.

It's only tithe you guys know how to preach about. Rubbish.

PDPGuy:


I’m willing to bet that if Nigerian churches devote 99% of their sermons to living a holy, righteous life, 95% of the church members would leave the church.

Possiblegee:
members would leave why ?

emrain:
It is only in Africa that people still interpret the Bible literally.
This is how Africans understand tithe - ”If you don't pay your tithe, you'll remain(become) poor forever. But if you do, you may become prosperous”
Here's the actual truth - ”If you pay your tithe, you are directly contributing to the sustainability of the Christian religion. By this singular act of kindness, your children will also benefit from Christianity.
But in Nigeria, everything na ”gra-gra”.

Gforce2015:

Let see Luke 11:42 But woe unto you, Pharisees! for ye tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass over judgment and the love of God: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
Jesus was simply telling the Pharisee that omitting Justice, mercy, and faith matter which is weighter and focusing on paying tithe is not commendable...but.he never condemned paying tithe.

Gforce2015:
No church leader force any of its members to pay tithe, as a matter of fact, 85 percent of an average congregation don't pay their tithe....the few that pay tithe might be out of personal conviction..

Luke 5 vs 33-39
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33. They said to Jesus, “John’s followers often fast and pray, the same as the followers of the Pharisees. But your followers eat and drink all the time.”
34. Jesus said to them, “At a wedding you can’t ask the friends of the bridegroom to be sad and fast while he is still with them.
35. But the time will come when the groom will be taken away from them. Then his friends will fast.”
36. Jesus told them this story: “No one takes cloth off a new coat to cover a hole in an old coat. That would ruin the new coat, and the cloth from the new coat would not be the same as the old cloth.
37. Also, no one ever pours new wine into old wineskins. The new wine would break them. The wine would spill out, and the wineskins would be ruined.
38. You always put new wine into new wineskins.
39. No one who drinks old wine wants new wine. They say, ‘The old wine is just fine.’”

Gforce2015:
I'm aware that there are some pastoreneur in town who open church just for personal profits....but as I said, you don't have any business in the church of any spiritual leader you don't trust what he uses your tithe and offering a donation for.

adetunjioludami:
Yenyenyenyenyen...... I asked some salient questions, answer them and don't derail everywhere with your poor mind by answering question with question

PDPGuy:


FYI, politicians still have influence over a good number of pastors in Naija

12inchess:
Can anyone explain to me how they came up with 10% as tithe? And why it's not paid for 2 years and the third year you enjoy your tithe like in the old testament? Can someone also explain how our modern day Daddy G. Os are part of the levitical priesthood and they own all sorts of property and possessions?

Kobojunkie:
He could not do that because He, Jesus Christ did not come to abolish the Old Covenant law, the constitution that God made for the Nation of Israel. He had no reason to condemn their paying of tithe... No,the Pharisees(and every other Jew who rejected Jesus Christ) had to pay tithes because they were bound by an everlasting covenant of the Old Covenant law which required them to pay Tithes.
Remember, God said He would be the King over His people, Israel, and the Old Covenant is the Constitution He created for His Kingdom of Israel forever.

That a Christian, any Christian, who proclaims belief in Jesus Christ
First of all, since Jesus Christ came to free us from the bondage of the old covenant law, no follower of His is meant to live bound still to the Old Covenant anymore. Jesus Christ brought a new Covenant, with a yoke(commandments) that has nothing to do with the Old covenant. So, to enjoy what Jesus Christ offers, one must completely disengage completely from the Old Covenant, to fully embrace the new Covenant in order to enjoy the abundant life(eternal life and Kingdom of Heaven) that is Jesus Christ.
The passage below explains Jesus Christ speaking of how not to mix old wine(Old Covenant), with new wine(New Covenant) explaining of the repercussions to follow disobedience.

Second, the law on tithing as defined by God as part of His old covenant is tailor-made for Israel, and not for gentiles. It was never designed to fit gentiles so it is impossible for gentiles to obey the law that God defined as far as tithing is concerned.

So when you say no church leader forces anyone to pay tithes, I immediately think "church leaders" ought to instead warn people against tithing and every other law that is a part of the old covenant, regardless of personal convictions because it is in blatant disobedience to God to do such.

I care more about the truth of God than I care about your world-church businesses, and the truth of God is, no Christian who claims to believe in Jesus Christ, has any business paying "tithe" in the name of God or even following any other law that is attached to the Old Covenant, because by doing so, such a person REJECTS Jesus Christ's sacrifice.

Gforce2015:


Jesus Himself says,
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Matthew 5: 17-18 KJV

Now, if one jot would not pass from the law without being fulfilled...how come you are trivializing some part of the scripture...
As far as the Bible is concerned, knowledge of the scripture is not enough but to have the personal in-depth revelation and conviction of the scripture...
I looked at some of the bible references you copiously quoted, they are wonderful! But I didn't see any part of the scripture both old and new testaments that Christians should not pay tithe...
From the beginning of the scripture in Genesis up to the Revelation, prophets are the servants of God that usually make his ways known not just anybody....the whole scripture is on laws and prophet..hear what Apostle Paul says.

And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into his lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and out of the prophets, from morning till evening.
Acts 28:23 KJV

But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:
Acts 24:14 KJV

Paul made use of the gift of revelation to pass the message of our Lord Jesus Christ from the book of law and Prophet....so what are mine says...
1. Heaven and earth will pass but not a jot of the word of God should be discarded.
2. It is not enough to quote scripture but it is important to know the mind of God concerning any issue you are not clear about.
3. Prophet are the mouthpiece of God sent to show and lead us out of obscurity Hosea 12: 13 including tithe obscurity. Jesus told that rich man to go and sell all that he had and follow him...there wasn't any law or prophet that command so..but Jesus told the rich man to do so.
4. Christianity is beyond logical sense, so, don't judge the scripture base on your common sense


To be continue

sowilli:
what is wrong in showing yourself to your pastor when you are healed? You people will just come with silly arguments. Tithing is not a problem to a rich man. It is the poor that complain about tithing and why they have remained in poverty.

chidemavian:
One thing we all fail to understand is that
It is not a must you give it in church!
Tithe makes meat available in the house of God!. So you if you can make such provisions directly to the needy, you owe God nothing

sowilli:
many of you miss the mystery of tithing. There are somethings that don’t answer to Gods prayer but God has given nature the power to make them available as long as humans obey the laws. For instance, Imagine if man decides to destroy and kill all the plants in the whole world, will he have oxygen to breathe, even if he prays for a hundred years will he? It’s same with prosperity. It only answers to giving and one of the giving is tithing. If you are opportune with 100 non Christian billionaires, you will find out they all tithe. I have heard Alhaijis bringing millions of into the church. Do you think Dangote visited that pastor when his wife died because of just visit.They have a relationship and many of this rich Muslims tithe. It’s not only Christians that tithe. Don’t bother about what a pastor makes, do your part of the law. The problem is there are fake prophets who are just out for tithes and this abuse. There will always be fake prophets btw. Remember the case of Eli’s sons. Tithing is a law everyone who aspire to be wealthy must obey! Please google Rhonda Byrne ... she is not a pastor

deavicky:
at this juncture I want to believe those money rituals not working or maybe there is no spiritually in it. If the devil can give wealth why can't God Almighty do more. Just ask Sha.

Stallion93:
Na u know wetin u dey talk, I’m telling u what tithe has helped me achieve

afroxyz:
Instead of you to channel these spiritual.powers agu at those holding the country down you guys are busy telling us to being money to church to receive blessing.

What blessing are we talking about for Christ sake? To drive cars when your neighbour is wallowing in poverty? Or send your kids abroad when the system is not functional and millions are suffering.

You guys are part of the problem.

I'm sure you guys love the fact that poverty is rife in the land so that you can continue fleecing people of their money.

It's only tithe you guys know how to preach about. Rubbish.

fairheart:
The infallible rule of wealth?
1. Work hard and smart.
2. Create value or service that meets need or provide wants (people's desire)
3.Stay on a single purpose
4. Become an expert and very skilled in what you do
5. Manage your time and finance
6. Give to the less privilege
7. Pray to God
8. If you go to Church, give offering as your heart desire; don't be forced
9. Avoid friends and family that wants to run down your business

Always repeat item one to the last.

God will prosper you
Tithing does not promise and give wealth. This is the truth!

chijokz:

How can a pastor who sets up a church and registers it won't be the signatory to the church bank account?
Something is not adding up.

chigoziri2403:
where did God ask you to give him 10%

chigoziri2403:
where did God ask you to give him 10%

Kobojunkie:
You still haven't responded to my questions.

Doctor1994:
■Malachi 3:10
■You are not even sure if there is judgement after death. Change your thinking and accept the truth

1. The Lord All-Powerful says, “I am sending my messenger to prepare the way for me. Then suddenly, the Lord you are looking for will come to his temple. Yes, the messenger you are waiting for, the one who will tell you about my agreement, is coming!
2 “No one can prepare for that time or stand against him when he comes. He will be like a burning fire. He will be like the strong soap people use to make things clean.
3 He will make the Levites clean. He will make them pure like silver is made pure with fire! He will make them pure like gold and silver. Then they will bring gifts to the Lord, and they will do things the right way.
4 Then the Lord will accept the gifts from Judah and Jerusalem. It will be as it was in the past—as the time long ago.
5 Then I will bring you to justice. I will be an expert witness and testify about the evil things people do. I will speak out against those who do evil magic or commit adultery. I will speak out against those who make false promises and cheat their workers and don’t pay them the money they promised. I will testify against those who don’t help strangers, or widows and orphans. And I will testify against those who don’t respect me.” This is what the Lord All-Powerful said.
6 “I am the Lord, and I don’t change. You are Jacob’s children, and you have not been completely destroyed.
7 But you never obeyed my laws. Even your ancestors stopped following me. Come back to me, and I will come back to you.” This is what the Lord All-Powerful said. “You say, ‘How can we come back?’
8 “People should not steal things from God, but you stole things from me. “You say, ‘What did we steal from you?’ “You should have given me one-tenth of your things. You should have given me special gifts.
9 In this way your whole nation has stolen things from me, so bad things are happening to you.”
10 The Lord All-Powerful says, “Try this test. Bring one-tenth of your things to me. Put them in the treasury. Bring food to my house. Test me! If you do these things, I will surely bless you. Good things will come to you like rain falling from the sky. You will have more than enough of everything.
11 I will not let pests destroy your crops. All your grapevines will produce grapes.” This is what the Lord All-Powerful said.
12 “People from other nations will be good to you. You will have a wonderful country.” This is what the Lord All-Powerful said. - Malachi 3 vs 1 - 12

Doctor1994:


Malachi 3:10