mrvitalis:
I have always believed that what can develop Igbo land is PPP between the Igbo people and the Igbo government

Let's take for example ABA owerri road , say it cost 100 billion to build to world class standard
Igbo government can toll it and sale it out as shares ....say 1 million per share , the government can hold 10% of equity and private individuals contribute the rest

Based on shares vote on the management team to handled the road ....it's simple , it's our style ...it can work for us

Igbos have large capitals ....over 3 million igbos can certainly invest 1 million or more in our home ..that's 3 trillion capital investment at home per year , in 10 years 30 trillion

We can build world class airports , hospitals , sea ports , rail way system , schools , everything we want ...and it would be owned by us the people

B3ACHSIDE:


1. Igbo is an ethnic nation just like other ethnic nations , whether with population of 1 million or 100 million. Nigeria is a colonial merger of these ethnic nations.
You don't need large population to build a lawful and organized society. We now have machinery and technology to do all the work. In fact,efforts should be made towards population reduction and management,not explosion. For example , Norway is half the size of Nigeria ,yet has a population of 5 million and is a developed nation. Ukraine with population of 41 Million is not better than Norway.


2 . Igbo land receives allocation from the Nigerian federation just like other ethnic groups , the politicians receive funds to develop the land and do all the stuffs you have outlined above , but they are corrupt . Igbo ethnic group just like most of the other ethnic groups in Nigeria are not united . If they were united and in unison , there wont be so many agitations for state creations and non unity of purpose . For example ,Anambra is building airport , Ebonyi is building airport yet there are airports at Imo state ,Enugu and Delta state just a stone throw away, this signifies disunity of purpose . There should be only one world class airport which serves Igboland which is same size as Los Angeles. same for other ethnic groups .
There should not be more than 15 states . There will never be 36 thriving international airports in Nigeria. even so,when more states are created more international airports would likely be built by those states - simply makes no sense . it's waste of funds and absolute foolishness. Nigeria will never develop with these methods.
Because of the disunity outlined above , your idea may not be agreed by others of your ethnic group . My advise is to implement your plans for your clan or state because it's obvious none of these ethnic groups are united, and any public showcase of unity is only an illusion.
There are many more reasons why i'm afraid Nigeria and Africa might be shithole for a long time .

B3ACHSIDE:


1. Igbo is an ethnic nation just like other ethnic nations , whether with population of 1 million or 100 million. Nigeria is a colonial merger of these ethnic nations.
You don't need large population to build a lawful and organized society. We now have machinery and technology to do all the work. In fact,efforts should be made towards population reduction and management,not explosion. For example , Norway is half the size of Nigeria ,yet has a population of 5 million and is a developed nation. Ukraine with population of 41 Million is not better than Norway.


2 . Igbo land receives allocation from the Nigerian federation just like other ethnic groups , the politicians receive funds to develop the land and do all the stuffs you have outlined above , but they are corrupt . Igbo ethnic group just like most of the other ethnic groups in Nigeria are not united . If they were united and in unison , there wont be so many agitations for state creations and non unity of purpose . For example ,Anambra is building airport , Ebonyi is building airport yet there are airports at Imo state ,Enugu and Delta state just a stone throw away, this signifies disunity of purpose . There should be only one world class airport which serves Igboland which is same size as Los Angeles. same for other ethnic groups .
There should not be more than 15 states . There will never be 36 thriving international airports in Nigeria. even so,when more states are created more international airports would likely be built by those states - simply makes no sense . it's waste of funds and absolute foolishness. Nigeria will never develop with these methods.
Because of the disunity outlined above , your idea may not be agreed by others of your ethnic group . My advise is to implement your plans for your clan or state because it's obvious none of these ethnic groups are united, and any public showcase of unity is only an illusion.
There are many more reasons why i'm afraid Nigeria and Africa might be shithole for a long time .

B3ACHSIDE:


1. Igbo is an ethnic nation just like other ethnic nations , whether with population of 1 million or 100 million. Nigeria is a colonial merger of these ethnic nations.
You don't need large population to build a lawful and organized society. We now have machinery and technology to do all the work. In fact,efforts should be made towards population reduction and management,not explosion. For example , Norway is half the size of Nigeria ,yet has a population of 5 million and is a developed nation. Ukraine with population of 41 Million is not better than Norway.


2 . Igbo land receives allocation from the Nigerian federation just like other ethnic groups , the politicians receive funds to develop the land and do all the stuffs you have outlined above , but they are corrupt . Igbo ethnic group just like most of the other ethnic groups in Nigeria are not united . If they were united and in unison , there wont be so many agitations for state creations and non unity of purpose . For example ,Anambra is building airport , Ebonyi is building airport yet there are airports at Imo state ,Enugu and Delta state just a stone throw away, this signifies disunity of purpose . There should be only one world class airport which serves Igboland which is same size as Los Angeles. same for other ethnic groups .
There should not be more than 15 states . There will never be 36 thriving international airports in Nigeria. even so,when more states are created more international airports would likely be built by those states - simply makes no sense . it's waste of funds and absolute foolishness. Nigeria will never develop with these methods.
Because of the disunity outlined above , your idea may not be agreed by others of your ethnic group . My advise is to implement your plans for your clan or state because it's obvious none of these ethnic groups are united, and any public showcase of unity is only an illusion.
There are many more reasons why i'm afraid Nigeria and Africa might be shithole for a long time .

B3ACHSIDE:

Ever since I've been on this forum I always read people's comments bragging about having large population or being more industrious or educated or more developed than another group. I think it's pointless bragging about these things. Norway population is 5 million, Poland is 37 million. Poland is not better than Norway . They have different personalities ,no big deal. why do only African love to brag about having large popualtin or more develped or more industrious or more this and that?

You said ,in my perception in a sort of bragging manner "Igbo land has population of 35 million and can stand as a country" . I say whether igboland has population of 1 million or 100 million it's an ethnic nation and can still be a country.

You said,in my perception in a sort of bragging manner " Igbos built igbo land without any help " I say Igboland receives allocation from Nigerian government just like other ethnic group and states but the politicians are corrupt.

And finally , all of these shows of unity are only a facade because i have observed that none of the ethnic groups are truly united . there's simply no unity of purpose,whether governmental or private .
Juts like I now focus on only Calabar and cross river instead a phantom Akwacross, I advised you to focus on your clan or state instead of using he term "Igboland" as if igboland is united and everyone would agree with your plan.

IspitonCowards:
I have always said that if Igbos can collectively and effectively mobilise the private sector for development, the results will be be overwhelming, So much can be accomplished, provided there is accountability and efficiency

B3ACHSIDE:

Ever since I've been on this forum I always read people's comments bragging about having large population or being more industrious or educated or more developed than another group. I think it's pointless bragging about these things. Norway population is 5 million, Poland is 37 million. Poland is not better than Norway . They have different personalities ,no big deal. Why do Africans love bragging about having large population or more developed or more industrious or more this and that or thinking they are better than one another ,etc? That is why Nigeria and Africa is a shithole.

You said ,in my perception in a sort of bragging manner "Igbo land has population of 35 million and can stand as a country" . I say whether igboland has population of 1 million or 100 million it's an ethnic nation and can still be a country.

You said,in my perception in a sort of bragging manner " Igbos built igbo land without any help " I say Igboland receives allocation from Nigerian government just like other ethnic group , but the politicians are corrupt.

And finally , all of these shows of unity are only a facade because i have observed that none of the ethnic groups are truly united . there's simply no unity of purpose,whether governmental or private . I gave examples.
Just like I now focus on only Calabar and cross river instead of a baseless Akwacross, I advised you to focus on your clan or state instead of igboland because Igboland like other ethnic groups in Nigeria are not united . There'll never be Igbo republic or akwacross republic or Oduduwa repub;ic or Arewa republic.

horsepower102:


And we have done it before when we had very little in our pockets. We mobilized and built imo state airport only 14 years after the civil war.

Now imagine what we can do today. We need to get back to work.

horsepower102:


Gbam. You clearly see my vision and know exactly where I am coming from. We cannot continue doing things the old ways

IspitonCowards:
Unfortunately today's crop of igbo leaders seem to be very mediocre, they really can't see further than 4-8yrs ahead

B3ACHSIDE:
Your points are observed ,but I prefer smaller population than larger population. Easier to manage and better quality of life.

And also , I know that any people can rebuild their land after damage from natural disaster or war . It is not possible that a land would remain the same after a few years . For example, if you bomb Calabar or Abuja , certainly the people will get over it and rebuild after a few years . I just think it's pointless bragging about that or thinking there's anything special about that . i'm sure not only the Igbo land was bombed during the war and i'm sure those other areas bombed must have rebuilt by now .
Finally,none of the ethnic groups in Nigeria are united ,whether igbo,Efik/ibibio or Yoruba. Evidence of disunity of purpose abound and I've given examples.

rdokoye:


Norway is also oil rich, a part of the biggest economic union on planet earth and has wealthy, innovative and capable neighbours (Western Europe). So it's not a fair comparison. Africa on the other hand, is largely backwards, lacking the inherent benefits a Greece may have in Europe, despite having terrible leadership. And Africa is poor, because Europe made it so. Not because of the actions or mentality of Africa. To think or feel otherwise is undignified - you're just beating yourself up for no reason.

Yea, a country with 1 million people can be a country, but when he mentioned the population figure, he was obviously referring to viability. I don't think he was bragging, when he made that comment, mainly because he was speaking primarily to Igbo people when he made it. That would be illogical. You only interpreted that way, because you come from a smaller ethnic group, which made you feel aggrieved. But this isn't about you. It's not about uniting with your people, creating cities for your people, or forming a nation with your people. It's about the future development of Igboland.

Over the past 20 years, but Nigeria has been around for 60 years. During which, much of Nigeria's wealth and resources has been pumped into the North and SW (Lagos primarily). Of all the regions, SE has the least federal presence, whereas policies within the nation, have all been designed to create a level playing field between Igbo people and everyone else, so in essence, they've stifled our progress. That's what's meant by that statement.

As I said before, you're not an Igbo person, so you're in no position to tell us whether or not we're united. That's our job to make that determination. In my estimation, Igbo people are very much united, in fact, I think all the ethnic groups are pretty much united. I don't see any disunity, amongst the largest ethnic groups. And you're conclusion that we should become clannish and abandon our ethnic kinfolk, reeks of bad-mind.

Philipxxxx0:
that why we the youth need to take over from the old men that don't know their left from right.

rdokoye:


How do you know whether or not we're united if you're not Igbo? And this is a Igbo initiative, all I read from you is discouragement, no solution(s).

B3ACHSIDE:
I don't mean to derail your thread . I totally understand your point about private driven development and I support it , but my point is that the government have the money to effect change but they are corrupt and lack unity of purpose . And with that ,they may even frustrate private efforts .
Example of disunity of purpose , Why not build only one world class international Airport like this sketch below instead of many international airports 10 minutes away from each other ? And I ask this question not only for the Igboland but Akwacross and others as well. I heard the Cross river Governor is building a cargo airport at Obudu .