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Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by Janosky: 1:17pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
achorladey:Achorladey & deception na 5&6. Matthew 9:11-13, Jesus was there already having dinner when "many tax collector's and sinners came and ate with him and his disciples" Free food brought the tax collector's and sinners to Matthew's house. Tax collector's and sinners were NEVER close associates of Jesus Christ. Did the brother and Father of the prodigal son have close association with him everyday after the prodigal son departed? Achorladey, will you come to your SENSES? achorladey:Your Pastorpreneurs predictions about the end of coronavirus. Your gods of men prediction about the year 2020, both are still in the pipeline John 16:16-18 & Luke 24:19-27 is in your Bible, continue WAILING. achorladey:James 4:4 & 1 John 2:15, JEHOVAH'S servants are NOT close associates of Polytheists whose 3 Gods came in the flesh. John 20:17, did Jesus worship 3 persons? achorladey:Luke 24:19-27 is in your Bible. Their fallibility and mistakes about Israel @ Luke 24:21 & Acts 1:6 is the cause of Jesus statement: He said to them: “It does not belong to YOU to get knowledge of the times or seasons. Achorladey Continue WAILING |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by Janosky: 1:28pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
DeepSight:Jesus Christ and tax collector's were NEVER his close associates. Did the brother and Father of the prodigal son "associated freely" when the boy had not come to his senses? Matthew 9:1-13, free food brought them into close contact,to the dismay of the Pharisees. Does the fact that we eat at the same restaurant mean we are close associates?. |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:39pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
Janosky: He doesn't know the meaning of humility! Jesus preached and taught as someone having authority not like the Scribes in the first century! Matthew 7:28-29 So what makes Jesus' teachings unique? Well he doesn't give more than two options so it's either you're with him or against him unlike the religious title chiefs of the first century who will give their listeners several options in the public (you can go to any Bible living Church) Jesus will emphatically say you must follow him (it's either you're one of Jehovah's Witnesses or not a worshiper of our God) Perhaps that makes Jesus not a humble person himself! 1 Like |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by DeepSight(m): 2:23pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: The only problem with this is your presumption that in order to follow him, one must be a JW. The parable of the Good Samaritan debunks this. Remember the context - One day an expert in religious law stood up to test Jesus by asking him this question: “Teacher, what should I do to inherit eternal life?” So it should be noted that the parable was given within a context of salvation – namely that which would be required for one to be accepted with God. Jesus replied, “What does the law of Moses say? How do you read it?” The man answered, “‘You must love the Lord your God with all your heart, all your soul, all your strength, and all your mind.’ And, ‘Love your neighbour as yourself.’” “Right!” Jesus told him. “Do this and you will live!” The man wanted to justify his actions, so he asked Jesus, “And who is my neighbour?” Jesus then replied with a story..... 1 Like |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by DeepSight(m): 2:30pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
Janosky: And how many times did Charles Taze Russell and his associates predict the end of the world? 1 Like |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by Janosky: 2:46pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
DeepSight:Proverbs 24:16 & Psalms 37:24 "For the righteous falls seven times and rises again, but the wicked stumble in times of calamity" Jehovah's humble servants will fall many times, but Jehovah's loyal love see's us through. |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by DeepSight(m): 3:06pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
Janosky: Good. Now go ye forth and generously apply this standard to others as well. 1 Like |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by Janosky: 3:06pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
DeepSight: Matthew 19:21-22,This man may have loved his neighbor as himself, still he missed the mark- he refused to follow Jesus & worship the God of Jesus Christ. Jesus said love of neighbor is not enough. The first question is what does JWs mean? Isaiah 43:10,21 (ASV) - Jehovah's chosen servants- the worshippers of JEHOVAH God. John 20:17 , John 9:4 and Acts 15:14-18, the God of JWs is the God of Jesus Christ. Did Jesus worship 3 persons? No, not at all ! Are you worshipping Jehovah the God and Father of Jesus Christ? |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by Janosky: 3:12pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
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Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by Janosky: 3:14pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
DeepSight: To worshippers of 3 persons? John 20:17, did Jesus Christ worship 3 persons? |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:27pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
DeepSight: This illustration is talking about how Jehovah's Witnesses LOVE their neighbours! Your religious leaders have robbed you off lots of valuables, they have enriched themselves with your tithes and offerings, their counterparts see you and walk away looking for their own mugus. All these are people you guys do revere as men of God and they keep lying to you that you must pay tenth part of your earnings, first salary of the year and other possessions making life miserable for billions. But the Jehovah's Witnesses (those you people despise so much) will come to your homes and begin taking care of your emotional wounds, they're prepared to give you Bibles and other information materials FREELY, they are prepared to continue visiting you IN YOUR HOMES where your Yahoo big boys never knew nor care. Surely they have proved to be your neighbour, but when it comes to their own brothers who have been baptized in the name of our God, His Son and His active force. We LOVE one another just as Jesus loves us. Meaning JWs are prepared to die for one another when the need arises! John 13:34-35 So you can't expect your neighbour to love you the same way Jesus loves NO! He can only love you as he does himself. Remember Jesus deprived himself of somethings but he never deprived his disciples of anything even when it has to do with his own life. That's what it means to love someone as yourself {Mark 12:31} which totally differ from loving someone as Jesus loves his disciples! John 13:34-35 May you have PEACE! |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by DeepSight(m): 3:40pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
Janosky: I quoted Jesus' own answer to the question of salvation, and you dare to contradict it. This is nothing new. Most Christians are happy to trample on the word of Christ in the interest of their favoured dogma. Its not new to me, seeing Christians dismiss the words of Christ with a wave of the hand. There you have it! 1 Like |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 3:43pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
Janosky: Simple question to Mr Janosky the NO GET SENSE PEDDLER Who are you to TREAT like TAX COLLECTORS and PAGANS? A. Your close associates B. Your distance associates C. I choose to keep WAILING D. I keep hawking my NO GET SENSE all over nairaland. Your Pastorpreneurs predictions about the end of coronavirus. A quote that shows the TIES that BIND . Theirs is still in the pipelines, yours have gone beyond their SELL BY DATES, BEST BEFORE DATES in actual fact na EXPIRED DATES una dey propagate. Just like I said before una no dey follow una Jehovah’s viewpoint on anything JEHOVAH'S servants are NOT close associates of Polytheists whose 3 Gods came in the flesh I read on your websites that you agree you are Christians simply because of Acts 4:12. Do you share close association WITH other Christian denominations or not or deny your SAVIOUR? Which one Did the brother and Father of the prodigal son have close association with him everyday after the prodigal son departed? Achorladey, will you come to your SENSES? Wahala for Mr NO GET SENSE PEDDLER on nairaland. For the question asked Did you see in the parable anything relating to the son telling his father to the father about his destination before he left? Go back and read the parable, the Father was eager to run and embrace the son when he is even not aware of what had happened to him in the first place If this were to be your religious organisation that SON will have to submit himself to three elders to judge and decide his repentance before been accepted into the the household back. Mr Janosky the poster - come back to your senses peddler |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by DeepSight(m): 3:44pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Not only did the illustration not mention Jehovah's Witnesses as an organized body, such a body did not exist at the time. And the illustration showed, if nothing else, that one does not need to belong to any organized body to obtain salvation. He clearly said that anyone who loves God and loves his neighbour will live. Why are you complicating things? Your religious leaders have robbed you off lots of valuables, they have enriched themselves with your tithes and offerings, their counterparts see you and walk away looking for their own mugus. All these are people you guys do revere as men of God and they keep lying to you that you must pay tenth part of your earnings, first salary of the year and other possessions making life miserable for billions. I am not a Christian. Indeed I subscribe to no religion. I am mostly agnostic. 1 Like |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 4:03pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
DeepSight: Sometimes to drive their point home they use ASSUMPTIONS AND SPECULATIONS. Here is an example of such..... This man may have loved his neighbor as himself, still he missed the mark Did you see the word may? They will trample on the words of Jesus Christ to defend their religious leaders. Especially this one you responded to has gone as far as as saying his religious leaders have taught ARCHAIC IDEAS, TO BE MOCKED AND ARE IRRELEVANT AS A RESULT OF RECENT BIBLICAL EVIDENCE. 1 Like |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 4:07pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: This illustration is talking about how Jehovah's Witnesses LOVE their neighbours A perfect example of how all scriptures must be interpreted based on the bifocal lenses of your religious leaders |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 4:10pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
DeepSight: He cannot apply it and will never want to because other Christian denominations out their are false Christians and are not righteous 1 Like |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by DeepSight(m): 4:19pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
achorladey: How they fail to see the fundamentalist intolerance in this baffles me. They will probably point to the doctrine of the Trinity as point of first reference (Janosky has already done this). They would conveniently forget that JW are not the only non-Trinitarian Christian sect out there. There are several unitarian Christian groups. 1 Like |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 4:22pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
Janosky: The moment you used close associate means Jesus didn't have anything to do with TAX COLLECTOR'S OR PAGANS yet the Bible you read says otherwise. Since Jesus is not a close associate of TAX COLLECTORS AND PAGANS how did he accomplish his work to redeem the sinners? On hearing this, Jesus said, “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick How will a doctor treat a sick patient when they don't associate or come in close contact. What did Jesus do to the man with leprosy? He was 200 trillion kilometers away abi? 13 But go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice.’[a] For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners.” 1 Like |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 4:26pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
DeepSight: They can choose to say all others believe trinity, immortality of the soul and hellfire. These are their strongest areas of interest they use to call other religious denominations false Christians and when discussing bible with others but REALITY says over the years the numerous doctrines of theirs that makes them share common denominators with these people are still very much present today. They can choose to deny. |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 4:41pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
Janosky: Does the fact that we eat at the same restaurant mean we are close associates? It brings you in close contact with those you believe Jesus is not expected to be with in the first place and most time Jesus speaks delightful words during such settings with these same set of people as captured by these example in Matthew 9:1-13 He stated categorically and told the Pharisees against his actions that those you think I should not walk with are the people I came for. Did the brother and Father of the prodigal son "associated freely" when the boy had not come to his senses? Irrelevant when the son didn't disclose his destination in the first place. We are not dealing with speculations and assumptions here. |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 4:48pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
Janosky: Same Jehovah’s servant serving imperfect spiritual food that contains poisons Your religious leaders serves poisons Apostates according to your religious leaders too serve poisons Members have no option than to keep feeding on poisons. |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:27pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
DeepSight:That's why you need to study the Bible well because even Jesus was not mention prior to his coming, it was prophecies about the Christ he fulfilled that made him qualified to be the Christ. For instance a Jew can argue from now till eternity that Jesus is not the Christ because there was no prophecy that specifically mention the name "JESUS" rather what Isaiah penned down is "Emmanuel"! Isaiah 7:14 So if it's about mentioning of specific name then Jesus couldn't have qualified to be called the Christ! As regards the Illustration Jesus is talking about how false religious leaders only care for people when people are watching. Only Jehovah's Witnesses are doing what that prophecy teaches today, they will only come to visit people in their homes and you'll see the changes in gradually whereas your religious leaders (Pastors) who never taught you anything will expect you to act in line with what is common as holiness instead of what you can defend yourself with the scriptures! DeepSight:Stop deceiving yourself! It was after you've been scammed big time by the Yahoo Plus big boys that you gave up on your former religion. So if you now gave up on them you need to calm down and look well instead of taking sides with your former pastors who scammed you! |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:32pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
DeepSight: The true God does not tolerate interfaith so His worshipers follow His footstep. God's law commanded the Israelites to cut off any rebel in there gathering and never to have anything to do with interfaith. So instead of accusing His worshipers just face the fact that they are obeying the laws of their God as His WITNESSES! Isaiah 43:10 |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by DeepSight(m): 7:22pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: The true God does not tolerate interfaith Acts 10 vs 34-35: Then Peter began to speak: “I now truly understand that God does not show favoritism, but welcomes those from every nation who fear Him and do what is right." Stop deceiving yourself! I have never paid tithe in my life and have never belonged to any of the sorts of Churches you describe: I have never had or followed a pastor. However in my youth I was a JW. Please stop making presumptions regarding a total stranger. |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by DeepSight(m): 7:27pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
achorladey: On point. In fact, he says that many will think they are his servants, even haven cast out demons in his name, and he will say, depart from me, I know ye not. This should serve as a warning to JW and all those others who smugly insist that its them and no one else. |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:42pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
DeepSight:Just as anybody from any nation is acceptable among Jehovah's Witnesses as long as the person is prepared to fear our God and obey the rules binding us together as one. That's the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of what you're reading! DeepSight:You're a liar! If you've never been to any other religion apart from JWs what exactly makes you feel God's people are wrong in any way since you never attended the churches of Christendom? Next time just say you're an Apostate instead of arguing aimlessly claiming you're agnostic. Thanks for your time, if you are truly an exJW you should know that it's wrong for a JW to chat with you. Romans 16:17; 2John 10-11 So goodbye! |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by DeepSight(m): 7:54pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: This is nothing but cultist exclusivist fanaticism.
And you know this how? If you've never been to any other religion apart from JWs what exactly makes you feel God's people are wrong in any way since you never attended the churches of Christendom? Looks like you have difficulties reading or might be semi-literate, because I did not say any of the foregoing. Next time just say you're an Apostate instead of arguing aimlessly claiming you're agnostic. This is just evidence that you are enslaved by an exclusivist cult. Take good care, and wake up one day. Good luck. 1 Like |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 8:01pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
DeepSight: Someone told me when they are preaching about events concerning the last days and are reading Matthew 24, they don't want to read Matthew 24:5 For many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ(one who is anointed),’ and will mislead many.......... Who is telling members of Jehovah's witnesses today and the whole world that look we are anointed and you need to accept we are ANOINTED and trust and listen to our instructions and directions that are not strategic from human point of view as Guardians of Our Doctrines aka GOD? Is it not the Governing Body of their religious organisation? They even went as far as saying doing anything outside their man-made(according to MaxInDHouse) organization will lead to everlasting destruction. 1 Like |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:02pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
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Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 8:08pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
DeepSight: He will be inching to call you APOSTATES but since you told him earlier about your stance he finds it difficult to pull the apostate trigger. Na their mode of operation. |
Re: Fifteen Basic Beliefs You Didn't Know About Jehovah's Witnesses by achorladey: 8:16pm On Dec 03, 2021 |
[quote author=MaxInDHouse post=108186969][/quote] Going by your antecedents all over nairaland. This instruction is a waste of space on this thread. Na you dey break this law pass amongst all others. Why should they follow it in the first place? |
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