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Re: History: How Saul Created Jesus Christ by OtemAtum: 7:44am On Sep 02, 2020
emrys2955:


OK I think I agree with you to some extent but mind you the Book of Universal History is a product of someone idea and can be refute here.
so it is relative but let me play along.
there is a being a super natural being which you have earlier agree that He has power that can take your life.
I love your research and pursuit to know the truth.
there is a statement made by the super natural being you believe (God) which is
"Jeremiah 29:13
[13]You will seek me, and you will find me because you will seek me with all your heart"
so I want you to use the same strength you are using to research and search Him to see if you will find Him.
I believe you will discover He will be your best discovery ever.
please you must be sincere in your search for Him, it has to be with the whole of your heart.
I didn't say being, I only said God Almighty. By restricting God Almighty(the totality of Existence) to a being, you are not only diluting the extent of God Almighty but also reducing what God Almighty is to less than 0.00000000000000000000000000000001% of its unlimited extent.

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Re: History: How Saul Created Jesus Christ by OtemAtum: 8:11am On Sep 02, 2020
Be aware of the truth

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Re: History: How Saul Created Jesus Christ by OtemAtum: 2:16pm On Sep 03, 2020
Keep knowing
Re: History: How Saul Created Jesus Christ by emrys2955: 7:52pm On Sep 10, 2020
OtemAtum:
The universe is actually conscious but you don't know it, and it is a vital part of God Almighty. A single universe is far far greater than Jehovah, Allah, Moloch and many other gods combined.


who is this God Almighty.
Re: History: How Saul Created Jesus Christ by OtemAtum: 10:07pm On Sep 10, 2020
emrys2955:



who is this God Almighty.
God Almighty is the Totality of Existence.

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Re: History: How Saul Created Jesus Christ by Blakpot: 4:18pm On Sep 12, 2020
Mailthaddeus:


The Universe is an array of the solar system. It has no power to swear with. Stop ascribing power to an [b]inanimate system. I w[/b]ould love u to channel all these energies u use in reading those jaggons to study the Bible and repent. Jesus still loves u and would love to see u turn to him.

Interesting arguments. At first I thought ur arguments were worth listening to, until I read the bolded statement. The universe is Inanimate? Wow!
Re: History: How Saul Created Jesus Christ by Mailthaddeus(m): 4:24am On Sep 13, 2020
Blakpot:


Interesting arguments. At first I thought ur arguments were worth listening to, until I read the bolded statement. The universe is Inanimate? Wow!
Can u prove me otherwise? Start by defining the Universe.
Re: History: How Saul Created Jesus Christ by OtemAtum: 7:15am On Sep 13, 2020
Mailthaddeus:

Can u prove me otherwise? Start by defining the Universe.
For you to say that the Universe isn't conscious means that you are not conscious yourself. You don't even know that you are a part of the Universe to start with. You thought that it's only the inanimate objects that are called the Universe. Show me the universe without living souls. Where is it, let me see?

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Re: History: How Saul Created Jesus Christ by Blakpot: 8:36am On Sep 13, 2020
Mailthaddeus:

Can u prove me otherwise? Start by defining the Universe.

I think its the definition of life u need to understand.

This is wt wiki says about life:

Life is a characteristic that distinguishes physical entities that have biological processes, such as signaling and self-sustaining processes, from those that do not, either because such functions have ceased (they have died), or because they never had such functions and are classified as inanimate. Various forms of life exist, such as plants, animals, fungi, protists, archaea, and bacteria.

So take ur time and think again, is the universe really inanimate.

Maybe u see the universe as just a collection of stars, planets, n other living organism and they are functions are all unrelated. But in fact they are related. They all working together to sustain the life of the universe and vice versa coz the universe dies, they all cease to exist.

A good analogy will be dat of the human body. Think of it as a universe and observe d similarities.

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Re: History: How Saul Created Jesus Christ by xproducer: 4:20pm On Sep 13, 2020
"A good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth good things, and an evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth evil things. But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment. For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.” - Matthew 12:35-37
Re: History: How Saul Created Jesus Christ by OtemAtum: 8:51am On Sep 14, 2020
xproducer:
"A good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth good things, and an evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth evil things. But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment. For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.” - Matthew 12:35-37
Instead of you to quote the book of xproducer 12: 35-37 you are quoting the book of long dead Matthew for me, whose philosophy is currently being defeated alongside the philosophy of Jehovah his imprisoned god. Try harder next time.

dibnim 1: 1 - 10
1. I am a chlorine to the bad gods. I weaken their bonds.
2. I have the potential of a potassium to displace every useless god.
3. I am the heat which makes the weak take courage.
4. I am the key which opens all cuffs.
5. I am the whirlwind sent to scatter the philosophies of Yahweh, Allah and their likes.
6. I am the house of words, the cave of histories, the mansion of knowledge.
7. I am the powerhouse of all good and penitent gods.
8. I am a great element among the functional groups of the universe.
9. I am the part of God(Existence) where universal histories are kept.
10. Within me is peace and peace revolves around me.

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Re: History: How Saul Created Jesus Christ by Mailthaddeus(m): 10:02pm On Sep 14, 2020
Blakpot:


Interesting arguments. At first I thought ur arguments were worth listening to, until I read the bolded statement. The universe is Inanimate? Wow!

Bro, leave sentiments aside, by definition, the universe is simply everything in existence with respect to matter and space. No matter how u look at it logically, at some point u come to a dead end..

And now, saying it is in inammimate system could be right, but it houses the earth which holds life and intelligent being. The universe also operates in a defined patterns and laws which are sustained by God Almighty who owns it. It couldn't have created itself cos it's also part of a system of space and matter, it takes only a being outside space, time and matter to bring such into existence and still continue to sustain it.

God is the creator of the universe and in it He chose the Earth to sustain life(animate objects).
Re: History: How Saul Created Jesus Christ by OtemAtum: 5:44am On Aug 02, 2021
Don't be deceived
Re: History: How Saul Created Jesus Christ by Ahasco(m): 6:11pm On Aug 02, 2021
Mailthaddeus:


Bro, leave sentiments aside, by definition, the universe is simply everything in existence with respect to matter and space. No matter how u look at it logically, at some point u come to a dead end..

And now, saying it is in inammimate system could be right, but it houses the earth which holds life and intelligent being. The universe also operates in a defined patterns and laws which are sustained by God Almighty who owns it. It couldn't have created itself cos it's also part of a system of space and matter, it takes only a being outside space, time and matter to bring such into existence and still continue to sustain it.

God is the creator of the universe and in it He chose the Earth to sustain life(animate objects).
Who told you earth is the only planet it chose to sustain life? I'm just asking oo
Re: History: How Saul Created Jesus Christ by Mailthaddeus(m): 3:18am On Aug 05, 2021
Ahasco:

Who told you earth is the only planet it chose to sustain life? I'm just asking oo
Have u found another planet that sustains life? In all my years of scientific study, I haven't come across another planet that has even
raw water, let alone life. Let me know if u think otherwise
Re: History: How Saul Created Jesus Christ by Ahasco(m): 8:48am On Aug 05, 2021
Mailthaddeus:

Have u found another planet that sustains life? In all my years of scientific study, I haven't come across another planet that has even
raw water, let alone life. Let me know if u think otherwise

There are many planets with life. Just because we don't have access to them doesn't mean they are not there. How I wish it were possible on your part to follow so I show you one.
Re: History: How Saul Created Jesus Christ by Mailthaddeus(m): 7:44pm On Aug 05, 2021
Ahasco:


There are many planets with life. Just because we don't have access to them doesn't mean they are not there. How I wish it were possible on your part to follow so I show you one.

I asked a question, u have given no answer. Which one Nah?
Re: History: How Saul Created Jesus Christ by Ahasco(m): 7:53pm On Aug 05, 2021
Mailthaddeus:


I asked a question, u have given no answer. Which one Nah?

You asked a question? So what answer do you want me to give you? You funny
Re: History: How Saul Created Jesus Christ by Nobody: 8:26pm On Aug 05, 2021
Blakpot:


I think its the definition of life u need to understand.

This is wt wiki says about life:

Life is a characteristic that distinguishes physical entities that have biological processes, such as signaling and self-sustaining processes, from those that do not, either because such functions have ceased (they have died), or because they never had such functions and are classified as inanimate. Various forms of life exist, such as plants, animals, fungi, protists, archaea, and bacteria.

So take ur time and think again, is the universe really inanimate.

Maybe u see the universe as just a collection of stars, planets, n other living organism and they are functions are all unrelated. But in fact they are related. They all working together to sustain the life of the universe and vice versa coz the universe dies, they all cease to exist.

A good analogy will be dat of the human body. Think of it as a universe and observe d similarities.
I disagree and saying I don't understand the Bla Bla Bla you are saying won't change anything

Your existence is independent of anything that exists within the universe but not within the solar system that includes Earth.

In other words, you don't need other stars except the sun to exist.

But the fact you can't do without the solar system doesn't mean the solar system is conscious.


In other words, the solar system is not a conscious group of things.


The highest organization of life is a living system within the Earth


If you say the universe is conscious,it means you are saying the universe is an organization of life or it is a group of living components because BIOLOGY considers a conscious or living system as a group of living components called cells.

In other words,a living system is BASICALLY a group of living cells.
Re: History: How Saul Created Jesus Christ by Nobody: 12:40am On Aug 06, 2021
OtemAtum:
Don't be deceived


The truth is beyond the Mathematics that made you think existence has a limit.
Re: History: How Saul Created Jesus Christ by BeLookingIDIOT(m): 3:22am On Aug 06, 2021
Mailthaddeus:


Keep wallowing in self delusion. I'm glad ur myopic opinion has no effect on the reality of Christ existence.
The first-century Jewish historian Flavius Josephus wrote about Jesus, He existed in 93AD.

Another account of Jesus appears in Annals of Imperial Rome, a first-century history of the Roman Empire written around 116 A.D. by the Roman senator and historian Tacitus. Tacitus did not have any Christian biases in his discussion of the persecution of Christians.

You need to stop wasting ur time on crazy blasphemy and repent now while u still can. You won't always have air to breath, and those ur so called homo didn't create u. God did. Unintelligent things can't begat an intelligent being. The universe can't spring u into existence, only God can.
Josephus Jesus reference is a well known interpolation added by later xtains.
Tacitus was writing decades after Jesus,detailing the xtian cult and their beliefs.
Writing about the beliefs of Zeus followers about Zeus isn't proof of Zeus existence.

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Re: History: How Saul Created Jesus Christ by OtemAtum: 6:59am On Aug 06, 2021
HellVictorinho:



The truth is beyond the Mathematics that made you think existence has a limit.
Who told you that existence has a limit?
Re: History: How Saul Created Jesus Christ by Nobody: 7:53am On Aug 06, 2021
OtemAtum:

Who told you that existence has a limit?


When you say totality of existence,it means it has a limit.


A totality is limited.
A totality is something.
A totality is a confinement.
It has to do with ALL but ALL means there is a limit.
ALL can only exist as ALL within something such as ALL galaxies within the universe.

The universe is just another group of several things.

It exists alongside other things instead of nothing.

"Everything" should not be applied to existence or used in the name of existence because existence is beyond everything that exists within anything
Re: History: How Saul Created Jesus Christ by OtemAtum: 11:43am On Aug 06, 2021
HellVictorinho:



When you say totality of existence,it means it has a limit.


A totality is limited.
A totality is something.
A totality is a confinement.
It has to do with ALL but ALL means there is a limit.
ALL can only exist as ALL within something such as ALL galaxies within the universe.

The universe is just another group of several things.

It exists alongside other things instead of nothing.

"Everything" should not be applied to existence or used in the name of existence because existence is beyond everything that exists within anything

Does 'Infinity' has a limit? How come we have 'Sum to Infinity'?
Re: History: How Saul Created Jesus Christ by KnownUnknown: 11:55am On Aug 06, 2021
OtemAtum:
God Almighty is the Totality of Existence.

The Lord said, “you shall quit besmirching my name with your lying tongue, lest you die.”
Re: History: How Saul Created Jesus Christ by OtemAtum: 1:33pm On Aug 06, 2021
KnownUnknown:


The Lord said, “you shall quit besmirching my name with your lying tongue, lest you die.”
Funny boi cheesy Their lords are in the spiritual cage, so NO THREAT FOUND.
Re: History: How Saul Created Jesus Christ by Nobody: 1:39pm On Aug 06, 2021
OtemAtum:

Does 'Infinity' has a limit? How come we have 'Sum to Infinity'?


I have told you that the truth is beyond Mathematics or the subject that deals with the nature/existence of limits or/and limited objects or structures or patterns or shapes towards the determination of a relationship or the absence of a relationship between them.


Note: measurements and quantities are limits.


The truth is beyond things including concepts that have to do with limits.


The truth is existence or reality or what is happening beyond whatever limit.

In other words,the truth or existence or reality is an unlimited occurrence of limits.

It shows it is impossible for no limited object to exist anywhere or there's no limit to where limited objects can be found!!!!





There are ageless indivisible limited objects that always exist

These objects accidentally form structures or patterns or sequences or arrangements or rearrangements as they move anyhow for no reason or/and with nobody in control of their movement towards the fulfillment of whatever purpose or/and without the determination of anyone's intention concerning their movement!!!!


There cannot be measurements in the absence of patterns.




So,existence is neither a pattern/sequence nor an object.

It is actually the property of something to possess limits.


How can the property of something to possess limits be limited when there's no thing that doesn't have limits


Your application of a concept to that which is beyond the concept has been disposed by my brain!!!!!!!!
Re: History: How Saul Created Jesus Christ by OtemAtum: 1:48pm On Aug 06, 2021
HellVictorinho:



I have told you that the truth is beyond Mathematics or the subject that deals with the nature/existence of limits or/and limited objects or structures or patterns or shapes towards the determination of a relationship or the absence of a relationship between them.


Note: measurements and quantities are limits.


The truth is beyond things including concepts that have to do with limits.


The truth is existence or reality or what is happening beyond whatever limit.

In other words,the truth or existence or reality is an unlimited occurrence of limits.

It shows it is impossible for no limited object to exist anywhere or there's no limit to where limited objects can be found!!!!





There are ageless indivisible limited objects that always exist

These objects accidentally form structures or patterns or sequences or arrangements or rearrangements as they move anyhow for no reason or/and with nobody in control of their movement towards the fulfillment of whatever purpose or/and without the determination of anyone's intention concerning their movement!!!!


There cannot be measurements in the absence of patterns.




So,existence is neither a pattern/sequence nor an object.

It is actually the property of something to possess limits.


How can the property of something to possess limits be limited when there's no thing that doesn't have limits


Your application of a concept to that which is beyond the concept has been disposed by my brain!!!!!!!!

Lol, funny dude. He thought we can only apply Totality to limited things, he forgot Mathematical Sum to INFINITY grin
Re: History: How Saul Created Jesus Christ by Nobody: 2:07pm On Aug 06, 2021
OtemAtum:


Lol, funny dude. He thought we can only apply Totality to limited things, he forgot Mathematical Sum to INFINITY grin

You don't understand.
The property of something to possess limits cannot be limited.

In other words, there's no thing that has no limit.

Also,it is not an arrangement or a sequence.


'Sum to infinity' has to do with a sequence




What else
Re: History: How Saul Created Jesus Christ by Nobody: 2:14pm On Aug 06, 2021
OtemAtum:

Does 'Infinity' has a limit? How come we have 'Sum to Infinity'?


You don't understand what I meant by 'infinity'

I was not referring to a sequence or that which has a beginning.

'Sum to infinity' has to do with an arrangement of terms and every arrangement has a beginning.
Re: History: How Saul Created Jesus Christ by KnownUnknown: 2:31pm On Aug 06, 2021
OtemAtum:
Funny boi cheesy Their lords are in the spiritual cage, so NO THREAT FOUND.

The Lord says, “Their lords are figments of their imaginations, same as the spiritual cages are figments of your imagination. Thou shalt cease and thou shalt desist from your vituperations and slander”.
Re: History: How Saul Created Jesus Christ by Nobody: 2:48pm On Aug 06, 2021
KnownUnknown:


The Lord says, “Their lords are figments of their imaginations, same as the spiritual cages are figments of your imagination. Thou shalt cease and thou shalt desist from your vituperations and slander”.

That dude is a waste of time here.


He applies a topic in 'Sequences and Series' to what is not a sequence.


Note that a series is an addition of the terms of a sequence.


What else?

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