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Re: 'Spectacular' Discovery Validates Biblical Story Of Queen Jezebel (Photos) by Pelecius: 12:33am On Aug 31, 2020 |
Dantedasz:Your comment should fit your first word. If an archaeologist discover a seal containing the name Alexander and the seal has the characteristics of a king's belonging and after some study, it was concluded that it belongs to Alexander the Great. Would you make this type of response? You don't need to allow your emotion reason for you. I find it hard to discard this discovery because the probability of it not belonging to the said person is extremely small. Most 'facts' that are accepted don't have this high probability, common sense dictates that this should fall into such category Like it's being said; 'common sense is truly not common' |
Re: 'Spectacular' Discovery Validates Biblical Story Of Queen Jezebel (Photos) by Pelecius: 12:55am On Aug 31, 2020 |
Topmaike007:6k is actually far. It is not 138 years. Imagine kingdoms that have come and gone within a millennium. All dinos were not carnivorous and according to the flood model, most would have died during the flood and the catastrophic nature of the flood would initiate a rapid burial, hence they can be fossilized. That is the best condition for an organism (or even a hat) to be fossilized. Again, man is ingenious; he can always prevail over any of the carnivorous dinos that may survived or formed through the rapid speciation that is expected in the creation/flood model. There are many carvings and paintings that accurately describe most of the different species dino fossils that were found. What is the best explanation for that? ALL were coincidence or some were eye witness representation? After all, many legends have their accounts of dragons (not all spit fires anyway). Could they all be lying, when most can never meet themselves to tell such stories? What is the best explanation for that also? For millions of years, the mainstream media has set itself to promote millions of years as fact and attack any evidence contrary. There is censorship in the media. The link below documents some of the examples of such censorship. I was struck with awe when reading the info in it as I couldn't believe my eyes. The report is well referenced with pictures of correspondence to prove it's contents. I hope you go through it make further research and decide for yourself (follow the evidence wherever it leads) http://newgeology.us/presentation48.html |
Re: 'Spectacular' Discovery Validates Biblical Story Of Queen Jezebel (Photos) by Dantedasz(m): 1:12am On Aug 31, 2020 |
Pelecius: Facts,common sense,reasoning, and RELIGION don't belong in the same sentence. I repeat how does this your long epistle and the epistle in the original post FACTUALLY prove that Jezebel or any of the numerous characters in the old and new testament ever EXISTED?? You are already being controlled by raw emotions and when you cannot prove anything about your religion you have already resorted to passing subtle insults. Religion is pure comedy!!! 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: 'Spectacular' Discovery Validates Biblical Story Of Queen Jezebel (Photos) by Image123(m): 2:40am On Aug 31, 2020 |
kingxsamz: Your problem is that you don't want to hear it at all, not about being forced. You wish to see it die and never be referred to. Your predecessors wished same and were silly enough to say so. They are dead and gone, the Bible, religion, Christianity continue to be expressed, applied and converted to. Don't kill yourself, it is insane to kick against thorns. |
Re: 'Spectacular' Discovery Validates Biblical Story Of Queen Jezebel (Photos) by Image123(m): 2:42am On Aug 31, 2020 |
kingxsamz: Were you ever like me? Me too uncle samuel me too. |
Re: 'Spectacular' Discovery Validates Biblical Story Of Queen Jezebel (Photos) by Image123(m): 2:44am On Aug 31, 2020 |
kingxsamz: i just did now now. |
Re: 'Spectacular' Discovery Validates Biblical Story Of Queen Jezebel (Photos) by Kemimarch16(f): 6:39am On Aug 31, 2020 |
emmyN:your mum should be the one to give best answer frog |
Re: 'Spectacular' Discovery Validates Biblical Story Of Queen Jezebel (Photos) by Nobody: 6:47am On Aug 31, 2020 |
Pelecius: Amen. Some of us are here to defend our faith, put the fools where they belong, enlighten those who know nothing about Christians or Christianity and treat the Bleep up of any insane person the demons are using to insult us. The Bible gives us the right to do this. Proverbs 26:5 1 Like |
Re: 'Spectacular' Discovery Validates Biblical Story Of Queen Jezebel (Photos) by BananaPeel(m): 7:19am On Aug 31, 2020 |
kingxsamz:. You haven't and it shows in your speech. And you have not really taking time to ask yourself some candid questions as regard your life and existence. You are still a child suckling his mother's milk and that is why you still talk like a child. Do you want to grow up into maturity? If yes, get to know God. I'm sure your parents know the true God but you have chosen to be ignorant. |
Re: 'Spectacular' Discovery Validates Biblical Story Of Queen Jezebel (Photos) by Nobody: 7:28am On Aug 31, 2020 |
See display of Atheistic foolishness on this thread. The bible already prophesied it a long time ago, that scoffers will abound in the last days. |
Re: 'Spectacular' Discovery Validates Biblical Story Of Queen Jezebel (Photos) by Nobody: 8:26am On Aug 31, 2020 |
Pelecius:I don't have time to reply to you. Wannabe intellectual you think you are smart but you're just another Christian dumbo.
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Re: 'Spectacular' Discovery Validates Biblical Story Of Queen Jezebel (Photos) by Mosco100(m): 8:30am On Aug 31, 2020 |
anonimi:His name is YHWH, He created all things and He alone is God. Others are creatures and no God. I worship YHWH. |
Re: 'Spectacular' Discovery Validates Biblical Story Of Queen Jezebel (Photos) by Pelecius: 9:06am On Aug 31, 2020 |
Dantedasz:I'm not surprised with your response. Your question was answered already in the post and I used idea of probability and common analogy to explain why the discovery in the article is enough FACT to be relief upon to establish the existence of Jezebel. But you either don't want the Bible to be true in this regard (emotional response) or you don't have idea on the subject matter. I asked a question concerning Alexander but you ignored it. Your response to the question will definitely make one to know where you stand as to my prediction about you as stated above. I'm sorry if you find my initial response offensive. It was not to insult. I hope you stick to the topic so I can learn from your argument |
Re: 'Spectacular' Discovery Validates Biblical Story Of Queen Jezebel (Photos) by Pelecius: 9:19am On Aug 31, 2020 |
SegFault: We all know that's not true. The time you used in typing this could be used for refuting my objections, but you were definitely exposed and have to resort to emotional defense. 'Wannabe intellectual' I smile. It's nice you can even say that. I never claimed to be an intellectual anyway, I just don't go with uninformed comments. This is why I make my arguments in form of question whenever I want to expose a fallacy; like you did earlier. 'You think you're smart' That's your statement anyway. How you came to that assertion is beyond me. I'd be glad if you should that to me '...you're just another Christian dumbo' Another claim, and committing the fallacy of 'begging the question'. We're just back to square of one. How did you come to such conclusion? What was your test for testing positive to being dumb? Like I said, your hatred for Christianity will only allow you to not reason critically, but emotionally. And it may make you to resort to ad hominem whenever your claims are debunked. I hope you heed to correction |
Re: 'Spectacular' Discovery Validates Biblical Story Of Queen Jezebel (Photos) by kingxsamz(m): 9:29am On Aug 31, 2020 |
BananaPeel: Seems like you folks wake up in the morning to say trash. Like I said, we've read it, and concluded that it's bullsh!t. Imagining calling yourself mature and also believing in a sky fairy daddy Santa Klaus. Clown. |
Re: 'Spectacular' Discovery Validates Biblical Story Of Queen Jezebel (Photos) by kingxsamz(m): 9:34am On Aug 31, 2020 |
Image123: Go and see a doctor. You're not feeling too well. |
Re: 'Spectacular' Discovery Validates Biblical Story Of Queen Jezebel (Photos) by Nobody: 9:35am On Aug 31, 2020 |
Pelecius:You think I have time for you. like I haven't talked with many Christians online, I remember an atheist that wrote a journal on wattpad, what I read cleared the air. In fact why am I wasting my time. |
Re: 'Spectacular' Discovery Validates Biblical Story Of Queen Jezebel (Photos) by kingxsamz(m): 9:35am On Aug 31, 2020 |
Image123: Then don't cry when you're criticized or insulted. |
Re: 'Spectacular' Discovery Validates Biblical Story Of Queen Jezebel (Photos) by Dantedasz(m): 9:38am On Aug 31, 2020 |
Pelecius: Alexander the great is a historical fact. He existed because there are numerous written books about him and it is a proven fact that he was a general,a conqueror and a ruler of various countries. Jezebel on the other hand is NOT a historical fact. She only exists in the old testament like other figures like Noah,Moses and Abraham. There are no corroborating writings about her except in the Bible which is not a reliable source in my humble opinion. |
Re: 'Spectacular' Discovery Validates Biblical Story Of Queen Jezebel (Photos) by Pelecius: 9:42am On Aug 31, 2020 |
SegFault: Hope you know what they call 'fallacy of appealing to authority'? Alright, you engaging Christians don't prove that they are dumb especially, when they disagree with your fallacious claims. 1. You still didn't explain the procedure you employed in determining if someone is dumb or not. 2. Worse, you didn't tell us how you came to the figures you gave earlier. Maybe the definition of dumbness have changed |
Re: 'Spectacular' Discovery Validates Biblical Story Of Queen Jezebel (Photos) by sonmvayina(m): 10:14am On Aug 31, 2020 |
So if somebody living in 4002 Find a comic book about superman.. It will validate the existence of superman.. Is orite.. Make una continue |
Re: 'Spectacular' Discovery Validates Biblical Story Of Queen Jezebel (Photos) by Pelecius: 10:31am On Aug 31, 2020 |
Dantedasz:Thanks for your warm response Now you said Alex is a historical fact because there are numerous written BOOKS about him. Great. Now, I would love you to tell me the criteria that is used to determine if a BOOK can be regarded as a historical document. Your response to that will help us in deciding if your nice opinion is correct |
Re: 'Spectacular' Discovery Validates Biblical Story Of Queen Jezebel (Photos) by Dantedasz(m): 10:56am On Aug 31, 2020 |
Pelecius: Are you conducting an interview or having a debate? Alexander the great is a historical figure and his footprints are all over history as a military strategist, a general and a creator of empires. I don't think me and you need to keep going round in circles. There is NO proof of existence of Jezebel or the other numerous figures in the old and new testament. 1 Like |
Re: 'Spectacular' Discovery Validates Biblical Story Of Queen Jezebel (Photos) by anonimi: 11:33am On Aug 31, 2020 |
Mosco100: Go back to read Apostle Paul’s sermon to the people of Athens. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: 'Spectacular' Discovery Validates Biblical Story Of Queen Jezebel (Photos) by Pelecius: 11:38am On Aug 31, 2020 |
Dantedasz: In debate, questions are asked and it is better to put some arguments in form of questions to help define some terms clearly This is still begging the question. He is (allegedly?) a historical figure because we read of his exploits in BOOKS. But how do we determine that those books are good historical sources. That is what I am asking. What are the criteria for determining if a book is a good historical source. If we don't know the answer (define it clearly), our discussion won't yield any fruit. Because bias will take over and objectivity would be dropped. |
Re: 'Spectacular' Discovery Validates Biblical Story Of Queen Jezebel (Photos) by Nobody: 11:41am On Aug 31, 2020 |
Pelecius:Like I said I won't waste my time with you. I don't need to prove anything to a so called "intellectual" now go back to church to cast and bind. Don't quote me again.
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Re: 'Spectacular' Discovery Validates Biblical Story Of Queen Jezebel (Photos) by Dantedasz(m): 12:00pm On Aug 31, 2020 |
Pelecius: @Emboldened, Is the bible story of Jezebel a good historical source? Are there any independent confirmation of this story apart from the bible? At least Alexander the great story is independently confirmed by VARIOUS historical sources. |
Re: 'Spectacular' Discovery Validates Biblical Story Of Queen Jezebel (Photos) by Pelecius: 2:10pm On Aug 31, 2020 |
SegFault:You can run with your tail behind your legs. Making a claim is easy, defending it is another thing |
Re: 'Spectacular' Discovery Validates Biblical Story Of Queen Jezebel (Photos) by Pelecius: 2:13pm On Aug 31, 2020 |
Dantedasz:With due respect, I have a feeling that bias is getting in the way of this discussion. I guess I asked a question first but you seem not to want to answer it. If the question you bolden is not answered, we won't be able to go anywhere. I will gladly answer your question if you would answer kindly provide answers to what I have been asking since. Thank you |
Re: 'Spectacular' Discovery Validates Biblical Story Of Queen Jezebel (Photos) by Dantedasz(m): 2:39pm On Aug 31, 2020 |
Pelecius: I guess we are going round in circles since you refuse to answer me and I refuse to answer you. |
Re: 'Spectacular' Discovery Validates Biblical Story Of Queen Jezebel (Photos) by Pelecius: 3:03pm On Aug 31, 2020 |
Dantedasz:Lol If you would check, I asked my question first and I said it is very important so as to clearly define some terms. You refused to answer them Pelecius:Again, I asked someone this question: What is the probability that there is more than one Jezebel who is a queen? I already answered your first question with the quote above; using simple analogy and probability but since you seem not to agree, that is why I had to ask what criteria you adopt in determining reliability of a historical source. If I know your criteria (which will be accepted if it agrees with that of historical scholars), it can easily be applied to the stories of Alex and the Bible. Then we can determine the validity of your previous opinion here Dantedasz: I hope you now get why I insist on knowing the criteria now. It has been nice discussing with you |
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