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Re: Is African Culture Becoming Ghetto Culture? by Nobody: 10:08pm On Jul 27, 2012
The rest of what you posted is rather irrelevant and seems like you're trying to go off into arguments about different issues that I never even brought up.


Only one issue is being discussed here..."Ghetto"....

Everything i posted Pertains to that. wink


You seem to do this allot when you fail at a debate on this forum...

You randomly talk about issues that do not pertain to the Topic and Subject....

The thread reads "is African Culture becoming Ghetto Culture" ...It is Laughable ...

Think about it...seriously...it is literally laughable, to any educated mind.

It's almost like saying "Is Fire Becoming to Flammable".... wink



cool

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Re: Is African Culture Becoming Ghetto Culture? by Nobody: 10:10pm On Jul 27, 2012
Royal-VII:




LmL Stop It. You are Embarrassing yourself.

Not Only are you redefining the word Ghetto by your own biased motives and agenda...(I posted the definition in this thread)

Your Last line was just outrageous.

There were also many areas throughout Lagos that were represented besides the people living on water

They would all fall under the classification of Ghetto.

This obsession with the "West" and Blaming the "West" for supposedly making west africans "Ghetto" is one of the most absurd assertions to have ever been written .

I defined ghetto in this thread already.

Explain what negative Influences The "West" has given the great beautiful classy pure nation of nigeria that was not Already There Prior to your Lagos resident population's obsession with copying our Music.

I would love to debate this while i am currently watching the Olympics...by all means...explain what our horrible "western culture" has done to these Beautiful Peace loving quiet humble highly intelligent people.

I guess our Country's music artist have made all of your women promiscuous and careless with their sexxxual partners as well?

Despite Nigeria having the second most Aids Patients in the Entire World...

I guess western music caused that...

I suppose western Music Caused Cigarette Smoking...Drug Use...Lagos Street Gangs...And High End Scale Prostitution as Well...



by the way, allot me to post the definition of the word again, seeing as how you apparently missed the definitive meaning the first time prior to typing out your post




ghet·to
   [get-oh] Show IPA
noun, plural ghet·tos, ghet·toes.
1.
a section of a city, especially a[b] thickly populated slum area,[/b] inhabited predominantly by members of an ethnic or other minority group, often as a result of social or economic restrictions, pressures, or hardships.

a : an isolated group <a geriatric ghetto> b : a situation that resembles a ghetto especially in conferring inferior status or limiting opportunity <the pink-collar ghetto>

I also put certain words in Bold to help you out. wink


By all means...Please Clarify what exactly did the "west" do to your wonderful people....

Take the Floor...



Apparently i am going to have to re post this seeing as how someone has realized they can not answer the question or counter the points which utterly destroys the absurd notion of this thread...
grin

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Re: Is African Culture Becoming Ghetto Culture? by PhysicsQED(m): 10:14pm On Jul 27, 2012
Royal-VII:



Only one issue is being discussed here..."Ghetto"....

Everything i posted Pertains to that. wink


You seem to do this allot when you fail at a debate on this forum...

You randomly talk about issues that do not pertain to the Topic and Subject....

The thread reads "is African Culture becoming Ghetto Culture" ...It is Laughable ...

Think about it...seriously...it is literally laughable, to any educated mind.

It's almost like saying "Is Fire Becoming to Flammable".... wink

Now if all of the cultures of Africa were "ghetto" before any western influence, why do you think the thread starter was bothered by certain dressing habits and the casual acceptance of highly crass and vulgar speech as normal?

According to you, he should be fine with these things since they were already characteristic of African cultures.

I think you and the OP should explain in detail where each of you is coming from and the rest of us should decide whose perception is more in line with reality.

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Re: Is African Culture Becoming Ghetto Culture? by pleep(m): 10:17pm On Jul 27, 2012
Yes, i'm talking about 'ghetto', in the unofficial way ppl in U.S use it. To refer to the negative sides of hip hop culture.

To be honest, i don't see what people who have never been to Nigeria can really contribute to this topic. You guys seem to be trying to start a flame war between Africans and A.A's. That is completely unnecessary as both groups can benefit from reducing the 'ghettoness' in our cultures.

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Re: Is African Culture Becoming Ghetto Culture? by Nobody: 10:18pm On Jul 27, 2012
The Thread starter has been deemed an absolute incompetent Moronn by the majority public on the forum

If your "defense" is the incredibly high cerebral I.Q of an 18 year old racist boy...Then i think it's pretty much say to say you lost this debate brother?

Once again?...Are you going to answer the question?

Now if all of the cultures of Africa were "ghetto" before any western influence, why do you think the thread starter was bothered by certain dressing habits and the casual acceptance of highly crass and vulgar speech as normal?

Yeah because "Vulgar" speech did not take place in africa prior to african's copying western rap music....

Yeah your right fam...They were too busy cutting off heads...mutilating little girls vaginall areas and engaging in civil wars....


.........^ LmL wink You still want to keep replying to me?

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Re: Is African Culture Becoming Ghetto Culture? by pleep(m): 10:20pm On Jul 27, 2012
^ No i don't. I have a policy of not discussing serious things with people who are too immature to disagree without using personal attacks.

"roast" someone else.

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Re: Is African Culture Becoming Ghetto Culture? by Nobody: 10:22pm On Jul 27, 2012




The thread reads "is African Culture becoming Ghetto Culture" ...It is Laughable ...

Think about it...seriously...it is literally laughable, to any educated mind.

It's almost like saying "Is Fire Becoming to Flammable".... wink





......*Whistles*...


Yeah...we all know africans did not use vulgar language AND Curse prior to that introduction of Tupac and 50 cent....

Right
.... grin

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Re: Is African Culture Becoming Ghetto Culture? by Nobody: 10:24pm On Jul 27, 2012
pleep: ^ No i don't. I have a policy of not discussing serious things with people who are too immature to disagree without using personal attacks.

"roast" someone else.

This is a prime example of the man's low intelligence...he is not even smart enough or aware enough to know i was answering a question "about him"...

Smh...yet he types to me..Lmfao

You what?...I think it's the rap music Lowering your IQ as Well... grin


..That damn american rap music....Lmfao...

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Re: Is African Culture Becoming Ghetto Culture? by Nobody: 10:27pm On Jul 27, 2012
https://www.nairaland.com/1000245/two-men-arrested-beheading-7year#11565448

Do we blame this on western culture as well?...LmL

Your "culture" for the most part is galaxies beyond just being "Ghetto"...Lets Keep it Real.. wink

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Re: Is African Culture Becoming Ghetto Culture? by pleep(m): 10:28pm On Jul 27, 2012
Maybe you would be more respectable if you would use normal type and act like a grown up. This is just an E- forum, there is no need to try and fight people you don't know.

At this rate i don't even bother to read what you write.

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Re: Is African Culture Becoming Ghetto Culture? by Nobody: 10:30pm On Jul 27, 2012
So you Mad in other words?...Ok then move out the way Lmfao

You think i care about your feelings being hurt?..

I type nothing but the truth.."Obviously" which is why some people are getting offended.... cheesy

Pleep most people on this forum do not even know you exist...Lmfao now go kick rocks little boy.

This debate is between me and the so called "educated" African Lol

grin

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Re: Is African Culture Becoming Ghetto Culture? by pleep(m): 10:32pm On Jul 27, 2012
I don't even understand you guys anymore. Royal were you not one of the people that thought it was out of line when that poster used graphic photos of dead somalis to attack Warya?

And now i simply make a topic about hip-hop culture and you posting pictures of a beheaded 7 yr old. Is is that fucking offensive?

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Re: Is African Culture Becoming Ghetto Culture? by Nobody: 10:33pm On Jul 27, 2012
I posting Facts after Facts

Video After Video

Picture after Picture....

oF this horrid cesspool of a ghetto culture that already existed years beyond the invention of rap music....


None of which has yet to been countered...

All i see is "whining"...LmFao...

Heres the quote once again.....The question has yet to be answered grin



Royal-VII:




LmL Stop It. You are Embarrassing yourself.

Not Only are you redefining the word Ghetto by your own biased motives and agenda...(I posted the definition in this thread)

Your Last line was just outrageous.

There were also many areas throughout Lagos that were represented besides the people living on water

They would all fall under the classification of Ghetto.

This obsession with the "West" and Blaming the "West" for supposedly making west africans "Ghetto" is one of the most absurd assertions to have ever been written .

I defined ghetto in this thread already.

Explain what negative Influences The "West" has given the great beautiful classy pure nation of nigeria that was not Already There Prior to your Lagos resident population's obsession with copying our Music.

I would love to debate this while i am currently watching the Olympics...by all means...explain what our horrible "western culture" has done to these Beautiful Peace loving quiet humble highly intelligent people.

I guess our Country's music artist have made all of your women promiscuous and careless with their sexxxual partners as well?

Despite Nigeria having the second most Aids Patients in the Entire World...

I guess western music caused that...

I suppose western Music Caused Cigarette Smoking...Drug Use...Lagos Street Gangs...And High End Scale Prostitution as Well...



by the way, allot me to post the definition of the word again, seeing as how you apparently missed the definitive meaning the first time prior to typing out your post




ghet·to
   [get-oh] Show IPA
noun, plural ghet·tos, ghet·toes.
1.
a section of a city, especially a[b] thickly populated slum area,[/b] inhabited predominantly by members of an ethnic or other minority group, often as a result of social or economic restrictions, pressures, or hardships.

a : an isolated group <a geriatric ghetto> b : a situation that resembles a ghetto especially in conferring inferior status or limiting opportunity <the pink-collar ghetto>

I also put certain words in Bold to help you out. wink


By all means...Please Clarify what exactly did the "west" do to your wonderful people....

Take the Floor...

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Re: Is African Culture Becoming Ghetto Culture? by PhysicsQED(m): 10:33pm On Jul 27, 2012
Royal-VII:
Yeah because "Vulgar" speech did not take place in africa prior to african's copying western rap music....

What are you talking about?

My post was quite clear - highly vulgar and crass speech becoming normal and being perceived as normal within a society is an aspect of the issue the OP was commenting on.

Any language can have curse/swear words - it's their use within and how they're perceived in a society that is relevant here.


Yeah your right fam...They were too busy cutting off heads...mutilating little girls vaginall areas and engaging in civil wars....

In your mind, if particular cultures harm women for whatever reason it is universal to Africans and the only interpretation of that behavior is as being culturally ghetto.

If heads are cut off for whatever reason, it is universal to Africans and is also due to cultural ghettoness.

If civil wars break out, it is universal to all African cultures and the civil wars can only be explained by cultural ghettoness.

I see where you're coming from now, but I can't really believe that this is your argument.

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Re: Is African Culture Becoming Ghetto Culture? by Nobody: 10:37pm On Jul 27, 2012
@Pleep's crying post to me

The Topic is about "Ghetto Culture"....Therefor all the horrible things associated with ghetto culture Apply in this thread....


Whether it be Prostituution...Drugg Dealing...Gangg Violence...Everything

This is a real discussion...

If you can't handle the "truth" about your "culture" ..Then look away from the computer.

You continue to type to me yet you claim you were leaving?...LoL

You,Your people,Your Nation need to take responsibility for your own corrupt backwards culture..and stop blaming the west

Do african americans blame West Africans for gang violence in America?...Of course not...

Where did "black gangs" originally start?


....... wink [size=4pt]mother africa[/size]


You see how easy this is for me?

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Re: Is African Culture Becoming Ghetto Culture? by PhysicsQED(m): 10:39pm On Jul 27, 2012
Royal,

When a masked gunman shoots a pregnant woman in a theater for whatever reason, do we begin discussing the "cultural ghettoness" of the place that that person was in?

Or do we usually have enough sense to interpret that shocking act and many similar acts in that place as examples of individual evil?

Does either of us accept the shooting of pregnant women or the beheading of children as something that is seen as normal or something that is tolerated?

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Re: Is African Culture Becoming Ghetto Culture? by Nobody: 10:41pm On Jul 27, 2012

Physics, You are all off....You are purposely derailing to avoid the fact you are getting slayed

The west is of no "fault" for your corrupt backwards culture....

How does this simple Logic Become so elusive to your mind?...(i know why trust me wink )

You are sitting here proclaiming Bad Language at the responsibility of the Western Influence...

Do you not realize how utterly ridiculous you sound right now?...

Now go edit your post 4 times and ill reply to the 4th or 5th edit Lmfao

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Re: Is African Culture Becoming Ghetto Culture? by Nobody: 10:42pm On Jul 27, 2012
PhysicsQED: Royal,

When a masked gunman shoots a pregnant woman in a theater for whatever reason, do we begin discussing the "cultural ghettoness" of the place that that person exists in?

Or do we usually have enough sense to interpret that act and many similar acts as examples of individual evil?

Do we Blame Africa....Yes or no....

ANswer the question.....

grin you just set your own trap...which coincides with my entire point...LmL

do americans blame africans for masked gunman??

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Re: Is African Culture Becoming Ghetto Culture? by PhysicsQED(m): 10:44pm On Jul 27, 2012
Royal,

If you really believe that some crass and abrasive language was accepted as normal in all African cultures prior to any western contact, why not just prove it?

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Re: Is African Culture Becoming Ghetto Culture? by Nobody: 10:45pm On Jul 27, 2012

Violence Most Definitely Intertwines with Ghetto Culture....

This is not to be escaped...

Your Culture is already Galaxies Beyond "ghetto"...i have shown many examples...

Yet you have an "Excuse" for your ghetto trash culture...

But the "west ghetto trash culture"..gets blamed for Your Women Cursing....

...Lmfao flawed biased Logic of the Highest....Absurd.

"blame everybody but us"<--Is the Logic many of you Live by

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Re: Is African Culture Becoming Ghetto Culture? by Nobody: 10:46pm On Jul 27, 2012
So you want to sit here....and try to claim Africans did not use vulgar abusive language towards each other

..Yet......

[size=17pt]ENSLAVED EACH OTHER!....[/size]


...really?...LmL grin

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Re: Is African Culture Becoming Ghetto Culture? by PhysicsQED(m): 10:47pm On Jul 27, 2012
Royal-VII:


Do we Blame Africa....Yes or no....

ANswer the question.....

grin you just set your own trap...which coincides with my entire point...LmL

do americans blame africans for masked gunman??


I've reread this thread, and I've yet to see where either pleep or myself "blamed" anybody.

Please explain how Americans could possibly blame Africans for a gunman dressing up like the Joker (a quintessentially American comic book villain), stockpiling heavy weapons easily due to the right to bear arms, and shooting a pregnant woman.

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Re: Is African Culture Becoming Ghetto Culture? by PhysicsQED(m): 10:50pm On Jul 27, 2012
Royal-VII:
So you want to sit here....and try to claim Africans did not use vulgar abusive language towards each other

..Yet......

[size=17pt]ENSLAVED EACH OTHER!....[/size]


...really?...LmL grin

I'm starting to think you have comprehension problems.

I asked you to prove that vulgar language was seen as normal in all African cultures - that the normality of it was in African cultures. You seem unwilling to do that.

Almost every other group (Europeans, Arabs, Asians, etc.) besides Africans had slavery of other members of the same group by the way. They just eliminated it earlier than most Africans.

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Re: Is African Culture Becoming Ghetto Culture? by Nobody: 10:50pm On Jul 27, 2012
So they spoke Politely to the Slaved they Owned?...

Just off common knowledge of "people" and how human beings are...it is pretty logical that Africans have always used vulgar and abusive language towards each other as do every other group of people in this world

Cut this Angelic African Folktale...The truth is rooted in demonic behavior Far reaching any realms beyond "Angelic"..


....You still have yet to answer my question by the way Lmfao

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Re: Is African Culture Becoming Ghetto Culture? by Nobody: 10:54pm On Jul 27, 2012
PhysicsQED: I've reread this thread, and I've yet to see where either pleep or myself "blamed" anybody.

See this is the typical stupidity I am talking about...Maybe it's genetics..maybe it's not

Clearly you wrote this....

PhysicsQED: So called "ghetto culture" mainly arises in westernized or semi-westernized, poor, urban areas.

And all through out this thread...constantly "blaming western culture"...

Then after you get slayed in a debate..you backtrack and try to claim you did not say it..Lmfaoo

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Re: Is African Culture Becoming Ghetto Culture? by PhysicsQED(m): 10:55pm On Jul 27, 2012
Royal-VII:
So they spoke Politely to the Slaved they Owned?...

Just off common knowledge of "people" and how human beings are...it is pretty logical that Africans have always used vulgar and abusive language towards each other as do every other group of people in this world

Cut this Angelic African Folktale...The truth is rooted in demonic behavior Far reaching any realms beyond "Angelic"..


....You still have yet to answer my question by the way Lmfao

Dude. This is becoming repetitive. You're completely missing what I was saying.

My view is that the perception of wayward behaviors emerging from slum areas in urban centers as normal and their perpetuation and toleration throughout societies is something I have difficulty seeing as indigenous to certain cultures around the world, not just African cultures.

If you disagree with that, fine. Let's just move on because were not going to agree.

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Re: Is African Culture Becoming Ghetto Culture? by Nobody: 10:57pm On Jul 27, 2012
pleep: 1. All we produce is rap music

2. We started calling each other 'Niga'

3. we sag our pants

4. we curse alot

do you guys think that africans are copying the negatives of Hip/hop culture?

What's even more apparently stupidd about your statement is...

The original Message in the Op's first Post...Blames the negatives on Hip Hop Culture...

He even engages in arguments with multiple people...

It's obvious who has the problem "comprehending".. wink

..Lmfao like i said..maybe it's genetics..maybe it's not..

based on this conversation...I am leaning towards it being the truth LoL

..Your culture is backwards ...Get over it..and stop blaming the west...

"Rap Music"...lmfao

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Re: Is African Culture Becoming Ghetto Culture? by PhysicsQED(m): 10:57pm On Jul 27, 2012
Royal-VII:


See this is the typical stupidity I am talking about...Maybe it's genetics..maybe it's not

Clearly you wrote this....



And all through out this thread...constantly "blaming western culture"...

Then after you get slayed in a debate..you backtrack and try to claim you did not say it..Lmfaoo



So you think stating that a phenomenon arises in certain areas that are characterized by a higher degree of western influence is equivalent to "blaming" the west?

If you don't understand something, simply ask for explanation, don't resort to needless insults. I never "blamed" the west for some young man in Lagos saying "nigga" - I explained why it would happen in a place like Lagos rather than say, a village in Benue state.

Like I said, let's just move on.

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Re: Is African Culture Becoming Ghetto Culture? by Nobody: 11:01pm On Jul 27, 2012
PhysicsQED:

Dude. This is becoming repetitive. You're completely missing what I was saying.

My view is that the perception of wayward behaviors emerging from slum areas in urban centers as normal and their perpetuation and toleration throughout societies is something I have difficulty seeing as indigenous to certain cultures around the world, not just African cultures.

If you disagree with that, fine. Let's just move on because were not going to agree.


Because you aren't saying anything at all...You are just replying just to reply

When the truth is i have showed a Mountain of evidence of the disgusting culture that already exist there and has existed for quite some time

Lies..and blaming "rap" music...for the negative backwards culture of the region won't do anything.

You could not answer any questions or counter any points.

The thread title should be reversed. Lmfao you embarrassed yourself...(as you often do on this forum)

Now you want to quite..As i expected.


Lmfao@africans did not use vulgar language untill the introduction of western influence....Lmfao straight moronn grin
cheesy

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Re: Is African Culture Becoming Ghetto Culture? by PhysicsQED(m): 11:03pm On Jul 27, 2012
Royal-VII:


What's even more apparently stupidd about your statement is...

The original Message in the Op's first Post...Blames the negatives on Hip Hop Culture...

He even engages in arguments with multiple people...

It's obvious who has the problem "comprehending".. wink

..Lmfao like i said..maybe it's genetics..maybe it's not..

based on this conversation...I am leaning towards it being the truth LoL

..Your culture is backwards ...Get over it..and stop blaming the west...

"Rap Music"...lmfao

It sounds like he's not blaming anybody but is actually just asking if it's due to those Africans copying the negative aspects of hip hop culture.

If you have a different interpretation, that's fine. I have my own, and like I said, we're probably not going to agree.

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Re: Is African Culture Becoming Ghetto Culture? by Nobody: 11:05pm On Jul 27, 2012
https://www.nairaland.com/1000245/two-men-arrested-beheading-7year#11565448

blaming western influence on pants saggy and "cursing" when you got nonsense like this going on^^

Get real...Lmfao an utter embarrassment..

The Cultures that exist for the most part out there are Beyond Simple classifications of ghetto

But because you being a insecure african male you felt "offended" by me saying the truth..

Hey..I can only be real cool

Why does the truth offend you?...

Nigeria is what it is....It is the Living Definition of Sub-Ghetto Living Conditions and Lifestyle....

why must we lie to ourselves? Lmfao

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Re: Is African Culture Becoming Ghetto Culture? by PhysicsQED(m): 11:06pm On Jul 27, 2012
Royal-VII:
Lmfao@africans did not use vulgar language untill the introduction of western influence....Lmfao straight moronn cheesy

Well I honestly never said anything like this. It's just a matter of comprehension.

But repeated attempts from you to misrepresent my positions are why I want to "quit" like you expected. It's just a waste of time at this point.

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