I do know that Nigeria is not dividing anytime soon, not because the people in Nigeria don't want her to divide but mostly because the people out of Nigeria won't want her to divide.

The rest of the international community wouldn't want Nigeria to divide, maybe Republican wing of American politicking may fancy it a bit but from UK, to Russia, to China while they all want Nigeria intact, US may remain neutral, but the majority of American interests would be in a single Nigeria.

That's why Nigeria can not divide, the rest of the countries like Germany, Spain, Japan, Isreal, Saudi etc are not power brokers and their interest won't matter much, France can't have a say here and they better stay out, as this is a UK enclave, so every reasonable oversea power want Nigeria intact.

With all this things you wrote, I still don't understand nor get your point Mister!

YoonSung10:
With all this things you wrote, I still don't understand nor get your point Mister!

It simply said international community, won't support Nigeria to separate, no matter how much we want to separate, because our unity does not threaten anybody, do you see how much UK is trying to split Hongkong from China, once your unity threatens them, they will split you, that's why USSR split, that's why india is not splitting, that's why they are trying to split China, thats why they destabilize Lybia,

Sparogatively, I was agreeing to your write-up until you addressed this nation as an enclave of the UK.

I lost all ability to agree at this moment and I collected back all the agreement I made earlier.

Your post reeks of deranged enslavement from Neo-colonial imperialism and nothing short of that! You need to begin to think and see things differently... It would help.

However, Nigeria is on the brink of collapse

AlexBells:
I do know that Nigeria is not dividing anytime soon, not because the people in Nigeria don't want her to divide but mostly because the people out of Nigeria won't want her to divide.

The rest of the international community wouldn't want Nigeria to divide, maybe Republican wing of American politicking may fancy it a bit but from UK, to Russia, to China while they all want Nigeria intact, US may remain neutral, but the majority of American interests would be in a single Nigeria.

That's why Nigeria can not divide, the rest of the countries like Germany, Spain, Japan, Isreal, Saudi etc are not power brokers and their interest won't matter much, France can't have a say here and they better stay out, as this is a UK enclave, so every reasonable oversea power want Nigeria intact.

PDP is a fraud.
Multiplier effect of corruption
1. A young man works for one of the state ministries. His salary is 120K. He makes 15,000 everyday on this desk (N75k a week) engaging in corrupt practices. As a result, he spends the daily cash as he cares. Living large and far above his legitimate income.
2. He visits the local joint every evening and buys drinks for friends, and area boys. They hail him. He is married, but has two girlfriends. His "income" is enough to take care of them. The Asun seller at his favorite joint is happy, the joint owner is happy.
3. Everyone was benefiting from his "income". Friends, family, area boys, joint owner, Asun seller, girlfriends, wife and his church. Life was good.
4. Then suddenly the ministry implemented the Treasury Single Account (TSA) at the beginning of PMB administration. His extra "income" disappeared and he had to adjust to the reality of event and live within his real income. That wasn't easy.
5. Initially he reduced his daily visit to the joint to 3 days a week and stopped buying drinks for everyone. He reduced the plates of Asun. The Asun seller started to find it hard to sell a full goat each day and resorted to buying half.
6. The young man's girlfriends started to feel the heat too. No more iPhone 10. The joint owner noticed a drop in sales. The young man finally stopped visiting the joint after a month. The area boys started feeling his absence. The effect cascaded down.
7. The young man started spending more time at home with his wife and kids. The family had to readjust to the reality of the new normal. His hair stylist noticed the young man suddenly stopped tipping. He will even wait for his N200 change after haircut.
8. Things are different. Times are hard, they all cry. The young man is blaming Buhari, his wife is blaming Buhari, the area boys are blaming Buhari, the girlfriends are saying Buhari must go, the joint owner is saying Buhari killed the "economy"
9. The Asun seller is cursing Buhari, the hair stylist is insisting Buhari is too old to rule. This is the story of our nation where corruption fuels the "economy". Those who are not engaging in it are benefiting from it.
10. This tread is not about Buhari's achievement or failure, but rather about the "multiplier" effect of corruption and how we have built a system largely driven by corruption. It's about policy implication (good or bad). It's about the choices we have made.
Finally, the young man had to withdraw his kids from what he called expensive primary school his kids attend. He added:"what are they teaching them there sef " Obasanjo didn't go to a private school. I just laughed .

Hambivert:
Sparogatively, I was agreeing to your write-up until you addressed this nation as an enclave of the UK.

I lost all ability to agree at this moment and I collected back all the agreement I made earlier.

Your post reeks of Neo-colonial imperialism and nothing short of that! You need to begin to think differently

You don't get European politics, do you think whites don't respect agreement like we blacks, in case you had forgotten, the scramble for Africa is still very much in effect, have you ever seen any France official make any remarks on Nigeria, it is not like Nigeria is a British enclave in the light you are seeing it but in Europe, Britain has the say when it comes to relationship with Nigeria, if France Dares, then Britain would also interfere In the affairs of francophone countries, respect me I respect you, that's Europe

Nigeria is completely useless to the international community now a total liability...
During the oil boom era and prediction of economic prosperity in the 70s that’s was when Nigeria mattered a little , in 20yrs if this country remains then truly that’s a modern miracle.

BigSarah:
Nigeria is completely useless to the international community now a total liability...
During the oil boom era and prediction of economic prosperity in the 70s that’s was when Nigeria mattered a little , in 20yrs if this country remains then truly that’s a modern miracle.

Nigeria is not as useless as you think, Nigeria matter to the International community but as a defeated people, even defeat has its need, Especially in global politics, Nigeria and Africa is only a ground for Raw materials, when you realise that Africa is the most sustainable Continent you would understand that the only need for Africa is as a subsidy to the rest, @1.3 billion population, China and India alone is bigger than the whole of Africa the second Largest continent, there is a human deficit in Africa, which is why the rest of the world wish to use it as a means to make up for the rest, once Africa realise how powerful she can be, then the game is up for the rest of the world, Africa is at war with the rest

AlexBells:


Nigeria is not as useless as you think, Nigeria matter to the International community but as a defeated people, even defeat has its need, Especially in global politics, Nigeria and Africa is only a ground for Raw materials, when you realise that Africa is the most sustainable Continent you would understand that the only need for Africa is as a subsidy to the rest, @1.3 billion population, China and India alone is bigger than the whole of Africa the second Largest continent, there is a human deficit in Africa, which is why the rest of the world wish to use it as a means to make up for the rest, once Africa realise how powerful she can be, then the game is up for the rest of the world, Africa is at war with the rest

Africa was discovered to be exploited if its not the Europeans exploiting its the Arabs or Asians...Useful Seniles

AlexBells:
I do know that Nigeria is not dividing anytime soon, not because the people in Nigeria don't want her to divide but mostly because the people out of Nigeria won't want her to divide.

The rest of the international community wouldn't want Nigeria to divide, maybe Republican wing of American politicking may fancy it a bit but from UK, to Russia, to China while they all want Nigeria intact, US may remain neutral, but the majority of American interests would be in a single Nigeria.

That's why Nigeria can not divide, the rest of the countries like Germany, Spain, Japan, Isreal, Saudi etc are not power brokers and their interest won't matter much, France can't have a say here and they better stay out, as this is a UK enclave, so every reasonable oversea power want Nigeria intact.

Thats not all, the truth is that what ties us together is far BIGGER than what repels us: CORRUPTION!

AlexBells:
I do know that Nigeria is not dividing anytime soon, not because the people in Nigeria don't want her to divide but mostly because the people out of Nigeria won't want her to divide.

The rest of the international community wouldn't want Nigeria to divide, maybe Republican wing of American politicking may fancy it a bit but from UK, to Russia, to China while they all want Nigeria intact, US may remain neutral, but the majority of American interests would be in a single Nigeria.

That's why Nigeria can not divide, the rest of the countries like Germany, Spain, Japan, Isreal, Saudi etc are not power brokers and their interest won't matter much, France can't have a say here and they better stay out, as this is a UK enclave, so every reasonable oversea power want Nigeria intact.

Have you bothered about God's oppinion?

AlexBells:

It simply said international community, won't support Nigeria to separate, no matter how much we want to separate, because our unity does not threaten anybody, do you see how much UK is trying to split Hongkong from China, once your unity threatens them, they will split you, that's why USSR split, that's why india is not splitting, that's why they are trying to split China, thats why they destabilize Lybia,

Nigeria is a failed state that regularly exports criminal minded immigrants to developed nations do you think that these countries won't be happy to see it disintegrates?

allthingsgood:


Thats not all, the truth is that what ties us together is far BIGGER than what repels us: CORRUPTION!

The simple truth is that our unity does not threaten anybody. Let our unity threaten the world and see how they will work really hard to break us apart.

EMMY76:



Nigeria is a failed state that regularly exports criminal minded immigrants to developed nations do you think that these countries won't be happy to see it disintegrates?

Does splitting stop exporting criminals, Do you think Nigeria is the biggest exporter of criminals, have you checked China, Mexico, Parkistan, Afghanistan, Russia, all super powers export criminals

AlexBells:
I do know that Nigeria is not dividing anytime soon, not because the people in Nigeria don't want her to divide but mostly because the people out of Nigeria won't want her to divide.

The rest of the international community wouldn't want Nigeria to divide, maybe Republican wing of American politicking may fancy it a bit but from UK, to Russia, to China while they all want Nigeria intact, US may remain neutral, but the majority of American interests would be in a single Nigeria.

That's why Nigeria can not divide, the rest of the countries like Germany, Spain, Japan, Isreal, Saudi etc are not power brokers and their interest won't matter much, France can't have a say here and they better stay out, as this is a UK enclave, so every reasonable oversea power want Nigeria intact.

The corrupt looters are more United , determined, strategic and organised than NIgerians themselves and it is in their interest for NIgeria to not only survive but to thrive so they can have plenty to loot in years to come they have the power and means to make that happen.

In fact when it comes to looting the national treasury they are so detribalised that they deserve a national award.

In fact Corruption is the most Competent, imaginative, detribalised ,United and successful institution in Nigeria religion and tribe are no hindrance at all they even have the foresight and administrative skills to loot on behalf of their unborn descendants.

The best lawyers, judges ,police, civil servants collect salaries and work for them even the entire NIgerian justice system and civil service was built to make life easier for them.

Proeast2:


If you want to be objective, then you should always try and remove emotions and sentiment, reason rationally. All you wrote is mere wishful thinking of someone that is fervently hoping and praying that Nigeria will not break up.

Bottom line, all you wrote is far from reality and not only can Nigeria break, it is already fast on that path except something decisive is done to turn the tide.

In as much as I don't want Nigeria to break, I wish that things are done right, but don't think that if Nigeria breaks that going home to Biafra or whatever country that emerged from my Igbo land homeland will be a terrible idea, what I'm saying is not based on emotion, you got to look at international interests especially United Nation, all the power brokers in the United Nation apart from france have deep interest in Nigeria Unity

Jones4190:

[s]PDP is a fraud.
Multiplier effect of corruption
1. A young man works for one of the state ministries. His salary is 120K. He makes 15,000 everyday on this desk (N75k a week) engaging in corrupt practices. As a result, he spends the daily cash as he cares. Living large and far above his legitimate income.
2. He visits the local joint every evening and buys drinks for friends, and area boys. They hail him. He is married, but has two girlfriends. His "income" is enough to take care of them. The Asun seller at his favorite joint is happy, the joint owner is happy.
3. Everyone was benefiting from his "income". Friends, family, area boys, joint owner, Asun seller, girlfriends, wife and his church. Life was good.
4. Then suddenly the ministry implemented the Treasury Single Account (TSA) at the beginning of PMB administration. His extra "income" disappeared and he had to adjust to the reality of event and live within his real income. That wasn't easy.
5. Initially he reduced his daily visit to the joint to 3 days a week and stopped buying drinks for everyone. He reduced the plates of Asun. The Asun seller started to find it hard to sell a full goat each day and resorted to buying half.
6. The young man's girlfriends started to feel the heat too. No more iPhone 10. The joint owner noticed a drop in sales. The young man finally stopped visiting the joint after a month. The area boys started feeling his absence. The effect cascaded down.
7. The young man started spending more time at home with his wife and kids. The family had to readjust to the reality of the new normal. His hair stylist noticed the young man suddenly stopped tipping. He will even wait for his N200 change after haircut.
8. Things are different. Times are hard, they all cry. The young man is blaming Buhari, his wife is blaming Buhari, the area boys are blaming Buhari, the girlfriends are saying Buhari must go, the joint owner is saying Buhari killed the "economy"
9. The Asun seller is cursing Buhari, the hair stylist is insisting Buhari is too old to rule. This is the story of our nation where corruption fuels the "economy". Those who are not engaging in it are benefiting from it.
10. This tread is not about Buhari's achievement or failure, but rather about the "multiplier" effect of corruption and how we have built a system largely driven by corruption. It's about policy implication (good or bad). It's about the choices we have made.
Finally, the young man had to withdraw his kids from what he called expensive primary school his kids attend. He added:"what are they teaching them there sef " Obasanjo didn't go to a private school. I just laughed [/s].

All these crap just to justify Buhari's abysmal failure?!
SMH.

AlexBells:

The simple truth is that our unity does not threaten anybody. Let our unity threaten the world and see how they will work really hard to break us apart.

who told u your unity doesnt threaten anybody Who do u think engineered the civil war, ojukwu Ojukwu was simply a puppet.
France was the master behind the puppet.

AlexBells:

In as much as I don't want Nigeria to break, I wish that things are done right, but don't think that if Nigeria breaks that going home to Biafra or whatever country that emerged from my Igbo land homeland will be a terrible idea, what I'm saying is not based on emotion, you got to look at international interests especially United Nation, all the power brokers in the United Nation apart from france have deep interest in Nigeria Unity

Stop looking at Nigeria through rose tinted glasses. Nigeria is no longer attractive as it used to be, and those countries could care less what happens.

Today, the crude oil that made Nigeria to be so important to US and other world powers has become worthless, with more sellers than buyers available today, worse still, attention has shifted from oil. In essence, Nigeria's greatest bargaining chip is no longer good enough.

Secondly, Nigeria is currently home to millions of refugees, mainly people that were displaced in internal conflicts, and the UN and other global agencies are the ones bearing the brunt!

Thousands are being killed on a regular yet the central government is doing next to nothing to stop it. Do you think that UN and other global bodies is happy about it?

The other time, Moumar Ghaddafi asserted that the only way peace would reign in Nigeria is by splitting the country into two, one for Christians and one for Muslims. His idea may be simplistic but believe me, UN and others are already considering options for Nigeria's balkanization should things escalate badly.

Just pray that we don't withness any serious crises with potentials for total war, because that's when the UN will finally step in, either during the hostilities or prior to it, and the only outcome will be the dissolution of Nigeria.

allthingsgood:


who told u your unity doesnt threaten anybody Who do u think engineered the civil war, ojukwu Ojukwu was simply a puppet.
France was the master behind the puppet.

Still stressing same thing about European politics, even if France supported Biafra, the motive is to whittle down british influence in Africa and not for their love for Biafrans, but France was doomed to loose out because at the time, UK had better global influence given the historic relationship with US,

AlexBells:
I do know that Nigeria is not dividing anytime soon, not because the people in Nigeria don't want her to divide but mostly because the people out of Nigeria won't want her to divide.

The rest of the international community wouldn't want Nigeria to divide, maybe Republican wing of American politicking may fancy it a bit but from UK, to Russia, to China while they all want Nigeria intact, US may remain neutral, but the majority of American interests would be in a single Nigeria.

That's why Nigeria can not divide, the rest of the countries like Germany, Spain, Japan, Isreal, Saudi etc are not power brokers and their interest won't matter much, France can't have a say here and they better stay out, as this is a UK enclave, so every reasonable oversea power want Nigeria intact.

Bro, if you are really against the division of Nigeria then stop talking about it, IPOB is a peaceful organisation and they are mostly ignored by the Government so the best thing to do as a citizen is to ignore any posts/arguments about the movement, They(successionist) are a loud minority and can be easily ignored (The more people argue with it the more controversy is generated)

BigSarah:
Nigeria is completely useless to the international community now a total liability...
During the oil boom era and prediction of economic prosperity in the 70s that’s was when Nigeria mattered a little , in 20yrs if this country remains then truly that’s a modern miracle.

ah! sister thats an unpatriotic thing to say. Nigeria is our own and the only country we have. We can only hope for the best

Proeast2:


Stop looking at Nigeria through rose tinted glasses. Nigeria is no longer attractive as it used to be, and those countries could care less what happens.

Today, the crude oil that made Nigeria to be so important to US and other world powers has become worthless, with more sellers than buyers available today, worse still, attention has shifted from oil. In essence, Nigeria's greatest bargaining chip is no longer good enough.

Secondly, Nigeria is currently home to millions of refugees, mainly people that were displaced in internal conflicts, and the UN and other global agencies are the ones bearing the brunt!

Thousands are being killed on a regular yet the central government is doing next to nothing to stop it. Do you think that UN and other global bodies is happy about it?

The other time, Moumar Ghaddafi asserted that the only way peace would reign in Nigeria is by splitting the country into two, one for Christians and one for Muslims. His idea may be simplistic but believe me, UN and others are already considering options for Nigeria's balkanization should things escalate badly.

Just pray that we don't withness any serious crises with potentials for total war, because that's when the UN will finally step in, either during the hostilities or prior to it, and the only outcome will be the dissolution of Nigeria.

Nigeria is still very much attractive, the vast land in the North is a potential mine for solid minerals, the Sahara desert won't be messed with without Nigeria coming in the picture, the sahara desert landmass is as big as US or China, tell me what lies beneath that dust storm...Nigeria will continue to be of interest to the world for a very long time to come but not the good Nigeria, the bad us is what favours the world

Tha zoological British fraud must phall

Liposure:
ah! sister thats an unpatriotic thing to say. Nigeria is our own and the only country we have. We can only hope for the best

Actually it’s patriotic, I won’t be patronizing the country with deception...The hoping past generations have been doing is what we are seeing today...The future of Nigeria, i don’t want to imagine.

AlexBells:

Still stressing same thing about European politics, even if France supported Biafra, the motive is to whittle down british influence in Africa and not for their love for Biafrans, but France was doomed to loose out because at the time, UK had better global influence given the historic relationship with US,

Yea may France didnt get what it wanted but at whose expense? Millions of nigerian lives were lost, poverty and disease was the order of the day. Infact that civil war marked the beginning of Nigeria's disasters, we are still suffering till date.

allthingsgood:


Yea may France didnt get what it wanted but at whose expense? Millions of nigerian lives were lost, poverty and disease was the order of the day. Infact that civil war marked the beginning of Nigeria's disasters, we are still suffering till date.

If we count the cost of wars then we could have been in peace, war is not an excuse no a hindrance to development, Japan, South Korea, US, all fought a devastating war, but they had far cleared the set backs, War effect theory

I think there's a sinister to it.... As they fully know that should Nigerians go their ways, most part Will sure give these people a run for their money cos they'll do everything to develop themselves.

AlexBells:
I do know that Nigeria is not dividing anytime soon, not because the people in Nigeria don't want her to divide but mostly because the people out of Nigeria won't want her to divide.

The rest of the international community wouldn't want Nigeria to divide, maybe Republican wing of American politicking may fancy it a bit but from UK, to Russia, to China while they all want Nigeria intact, US may remain neutral, but the majority of American interests would be in a single Nigeria.

That's why Nigeria can not divide, the rest of the countries like Germany, Spain, Japan, Isreal, Saudi etc are not power brokers and their interest won't matter much, France can't have a say here and they better stay out, as this is a UK enclave, so every reasonable oversea power want Nigeria intact.

Op, the opposite is true and you’re ether acting Machiavellian or you lack understanding of international politics and how international politics relates to the black world. Influential nations out there do not want a powerful black nation, which Nigerian threatens and will do covertly what they can to break Nigeria.

Blacks are useful only as consumers and, Africa, as material or consumers, whichever is more profitable. Some African nations are propped up and or backed by the “White world” but Nigeria is not one of them.

Litmus:


Op, the opposite is true and you’re ether acting Machiavellian or you lack understanding of international politics and how international politics relates to the black world. Influential nations out there do not want a powerful black nation, which Nigerian threatens and will do covertly what they can to break Nigeria.

Blacks are useful only as consumers and, Africa, as material or consumers, whichever is more profitable. Some African nations are propped up and or backed by the “White world” but Nigeria is not one of them.

So to you Nigeria is the great Nation the world is fighting to split, apart from population, what else does Nigeria have that Libya or Algeria does not have, what is your definition of a great country, if it took Nigeria 3 years to Defeat Biafra amidst blockade and humanitarian disaster given that Biafra was a very young country as at then, how many years would it take Nigeria to defeat Ghana talk more of South Africa or Algeria in Africa, that's the definition of greatness and ability to threaten others, can Nigeria rub shoulder with Switzerland, but you know a well managed Biafra can, or could have been in the same level with South Korea or United Arab Emirate that's how countries are rated in international community

AlexBells:

So to you Nigeria is the great Nation the world is fighting to split, apart from population, what else does Nigeria have that Libya or Algeria does not have, what is your definition of a great country, if it took Nigeria 3 years to Defeat Biafra amidst blockade and humanitarian disaster given that Biafra was a very young country as at then, how many years would it take Nigeria to defeat Ghana talk more of South Africa or Algeria in Africa, that's the definition of greatness and ability to threaten others, can Nigeria rub shoulder with Switzerland, but you know a well managed Biafra can, or could have been in the same level with South Korea or United Arab Emirate that's how countries are rated in international community

Oh, I see, yours is the Biafra thing. Well, it is event to me that the start topic is beyond what you know or could reasonably debate but I’m sure you'll be on sounder ground arguing the Biafra war and the reasons for your grievances. Therefore, ill leave you to it.