Lipscomb: From all indication he has beef against Tinubu but instead to Ajayi to attack Tinubu personally he was trying to cause another problem in the southwest.
People that lacking historical facts trying to masturbating on history. Some of us that know the bini kingdom is not the most powerful kingdom in Nigeria.
Many Lagos natives don't like tinubu. Except those ones bribed already
Who is this thing Dont ever quote me in your life. I have seen how you trolling on this topic and little wonder you are not from southwest a common impostor from east .
candidtalk: This is one of the ironies of life and a very loud statement about what Igbos are i.e usurpers and very covetuous souls.
I am a Lagosian who has dealt with other Lagosians from all parts of Nigeria for decades.
I dont know many Edos, Aworis, Ijebu or any other continuously shouting they own Lagos yet the Igbos continue to do this on their behalf divisively so as to instigate those people against Yorubas in the hope they can profit from any ensuing discord.
It is always Igbos obsessed with showing online that Lagos belongs to all others, even alien from Mars, but Yorubas. Why they do this can only remain unseen to fools.
Lipscomb: Who is this thing Dont ever quote me in your life. I have seen how you trolling on this topic and little wonder you are not from southwest a common impostor from east .
You don't have show your ignorance. Thats always your next line of action . My past thread of two years back. When our union was fighting for lagos student bursary is enough evidence that we are not happy with tinubu and his appointees , Lagos at 50 we rejected Soyinka but they imposed him on us. Go back to your state land grabber oshi
tomakint: ICYMI: Bini, not Yoruba, are original owners of Lagos – Ajayi-Bembe
Published November 19, 2017
INTERVIEW
A former President of the Association of Lagos State Indigenes, Chief Layi Ajayi-Bembe, in this interview with BAYO AKINLOYE says the real owners of Lagos are the Bini, not the Yoruba
What is your lineage as a Lagosian?
My grandfather was Ajayi Bembe; the eighth Obanikoro of Lagos – my father was the last of his children. My mother was the first child of Gbajabiamila (of Olowogbowo fame) – of course, of Lagos. When it comes to the ownership of Lagos, it is sad when people talk about Lagos being no man’s land or Lagos being part of Yoruba land – I consider that position to be an abomination. Yes, because of the affinity or geographical location of Lagos, we’re nearer to the South-West (the Yoruba) than to other regions. It should be stated that Lagos has always been independent of the West. When I returned from England, (Chief Obafemi) Awolowo was in prison; before I came back to Nigeria, there had been agitations that Lagos wasn’t part of the West. No doubt that a lot of us speak Yoruba – in my family, we’re Bini. Oba of Lagos (Rilwan Akiolu) was completely right that the early settlers in Lagos were the Awori and the Bini. We’re talking about the Island of Lagos.
Extending it to the east of Lagos, you have Oshodi, the Tapa (from Niger State) were there. And, of course, we knew one another. I don’t understand why some of our brothers in the West think that we can be enslaved by them. In all my years, I have not seen what Afenifere has done for Lagos to inspire me because during the last constitutional conference, they were not talking about Lagos; they were talking about themselves. Don’t forget that the so-called Edo State was part of the West before. But to say Lagos is part of Yoruba land is not fair; it is not charitable. And when kabiyesi now said, Lagos is Bini, not only because we came from Benin, there are signs and relics of Benin all over Isale Eko. And obas (in Lagos) – we don’t call them ‘obas’, we call them ‘eleko’. My grandfather said in 1903 that when there was a dispute of which traditional rulers should wear crowns – my grandfather was at that meeting. Ooni of Ife had to come all the way from Ife to Lagos upon the invitation of Governor (John Hawley) Glover. And the question they asked him (Ooni) was, ‘Who are the obas that should wear crowns?’ He mentioned them – Lagos was not part of the list. We don’t wear crowns in Lagos. I remember, Pa Edegbele – that’s Prof. Edegbele’s father – when he said ‘oba’ is alien to Yoruba land that only the Bini use that title, there was a furore over that. But Edegbele was right. Note that politicians have done a lot of havoc in Yoruba land more than in other regions of the country. Nobody is going to doubt the hegemony of the Sultan of Sokoto in the North. But the Yoruba are fond of creating problems among themselves in Yoruba land. Permit me to digress: look at the recent installation of some kings in Ibadan, the Oyo State capital. A governor created 21 kings, for what? Is that what the people need at a time when the masses are hungry, civil servants are owed salaries and basic amenities are not available? It now appears there are more rulers than the ruled.
Are you saying Lagos belongs to the Bini people?
Lagos belongs to us – the Bini. When you get to Enuowa, they (the inhabitants) pay homage to Oba of Benin there. Enuowa is in Lagos; Idumota is like a Bini name; Iduntafa is Bini name; Idunmagbo is Bini name; Iduganran is Bini name; tell me, what further proof do you want (that the Bini own Lagos)? Why have some people tried hard to erode our identity and the labour of our ancestors? Today, if you go to the Lagos State Secretariat, you’ll hardly see the original indigenes of the state hold a prominent position. So, why are people crying about the quota system? You don’t ‘quotarise’ knowledge. Whatever is the case, I believe that the indigenes of Lagos – by the way, I was president of Association of Lagos Indigenes for almost 15 years – we know how our resources were plundered and carted away. Look at the fiasco called ‘Lagos @50’. The state government doesn’t recognise the true indigenes of Lagos State. Some of the indigenes work with them for the purpose of getting whatever they can get from the government. Some people are trying so hard to maintain the stupidity that Lagos doesn’t belong to anybody – that’s annoying.
What about Alhaji Femi Okunnu’s view of the Awori being the original owners of Lagos?
I am not a lawyer but Femi Okunnu is a lawyer – a Senior Advocate of Nigeria for that matter. On the issue of the original owners of Lagos, my attention was drawn to an article focused on the Idunganran celebration. Mr. Femi Okunnu happened to be my mentor; he was an inspiration to me particularly when I returned from England. He was not only elder ‘brother’ to me because we lived close together. They were living at No. 1 Ido Olowu Street and I was living at No. 7 Ido Olowu Street. I have known him for a long time. I remember when he came back from England as a young and vibrant lawyer. When Femi Okunnu himself was the Federal Commissioner for Works during the military regime, he was the one who actually acquired the area where you have the National Theatre, Iganmu. From whom did he acquire it? He got it from the indigenes; my grandfather had a place there. We must have a good perspective of history. People should learn not to mutilate history. The owners of Lagos are not the Yoruba; they are the Bini. We are Bini; there’s no ambiguity about that. To prove it further, the obas or the elekos, when they died, their bodies were taken to Benin for burial for a time. Tell me, who owns the land then?
Who are the Awori?
The Awori and the Bini are the same. If an Awori spoke to me when I was young, I understood him. My parents spoke Awori. The Awori are partly from Dahomey and partly from Benin. My forebears came from the riverine area through the Bight of Benin and settled in Badagry for a long time before moving down to Lagos. And when they moved down to Lagos where did they go? They went to Idunsagbe – a place famed for Bini culture and tradition. I am an Awori. Tell me, which state did they create for the Awori now? If you say the indigenous people of Lagos State are the Awori, then the Awori are the Bini. We must put history in its right perspective. The right perspective is that Lagos does not belong to the Yoruba; it belongs to the Bini. According to the Lyttleton Constitution, the West was created; the North was created and Lagos was made a colony and it later regained its independence.
Some may argue that the original Lagosians didn’t protect their legacy, allowing every Tom, Dick and Harry to hold sway politically and economically.
It is true that Lagos is open to everybody that could bring ideas. But when it comes to certain elements within the political spectrum in Nigeria… Look at it this way, will it surprise you that a representative of Lagos who calls himself a Lagosian representing the state in the National Assembly went to Kogi State to vie for the governorship? Isn’t that insulting? Some are even saying once (Osun State Governor, Rauf) Aregbesola has completed his tenure in Osun, he will come back to Lagos to contest a senatorial seat. We called Bola Tinubu, sat him down and told him how we accepted him and he let us down. I know the role I played when Bola Tinubu was coming in; when I gave him my second cousin, (Musiliu) Obanikoro to go along with him (I don’t talk to that one (Obanikoro) again after he had his hand in something embarrassing; because you don’t disgrace your family). I am not looking for anything from them. It is very wrong that people should trivialise the affairs of Lagos. For example, we kicked against (Prof. Wole) Soyinka being made the chairman of the Lagos @50 celebration. But nobody listened to us. Look at the fiasco; was it a success? Who bothered about it? People who will not celebrate the living are celebrating the dead – it doesn’t go beyond that. You acquire land from me for a public purpose and the next thing you did was to share it with your siblings, friends and other loved ones. It is really sad for people to proclaim Lagos as no man’s land. Lagos is so accommodating; it is only here you see an Igbo man being made a commissioner. Even the Yoruba that are shouting, how many Lagosians are in their cabinets? They all live in Lagos; we know them. Some of them benefitted from the liberty Lagos offers. But ask them: what have they done for their host communities? Can you imagine Orji Kalu, who bought land here, saying Lagos belongs to nobody? They just talk.
Don’t you think Prof. Wole Soyinka deserved to have been the chairman of the Lagos @50 celebration?
I am not used to Soyinka and I don’t want to be acquainted with him. It is unfortunate that because he was made the chairman of Lagos @50, he began to insult people, claiming that his father had a land in Lagos. We traced the land – one plot of land – and discovered that the land was bought from my grandfather. People like him go around insulting others. Has he not insulted Femi Okunnu before? Tell me who Wole Soyinka has never insulted? He is part of the Tinubu group. Is he not an Ogun man? I don’t think he has a right to say that Lagos is no man’s land. Who is he to say that? I think Okunnu knew better; I don’t think he meant what he said the way the press reported him. What he said is that Lagos is ‘part’ of Yoruba land; he didn’t say it was owned by the Yoruba. We need to be discreet in our definition. Geographically, we’re in the West and culturally, we speak Yoruba. If an Igbo man speaks Yoruba fluently, does that make him a Yoruba? Go to Lagos State House of Assembly and count how many of them are truly Lagos indigenes. Again, Okunnu was an active participant in the creation of Lagos State together with (Philip) Asiodu and Alison Ayida. They facilitated the creation of the state; there was a western state then. If Okunnu had advocated the merger of Lagos with the western region then, one would have thought otherwise. Wole Soyinka didn’t want Lagos to be created at that time. Soyinka used to be very radical but having got into the group of Bola Tinubu’s scientific imposition, he has been mellowing down. Soyinka would be the one that would stand for the truth when people were accused of certificate forgery and other ills. He was always at the forefront; he has become a turncoat. What happened to him? I respected him; he may not know me and he doesn’t need to know me.
So, you think Okunnu is on the same page with you when he talked about the early settlers of Lagos?
I believe Okunnu was actually agitating for the indigenes. He was president of Lagos State indigenes before me – we have Isale Eko Descendants Union, which we all belong to. All I am saying is this: Lagos is not part of Yoruba. The settlers are Bini. Wasn’t Benin part of the West before until the Mid-West was created? The Bini agitated for that, insisting that we’re not part of the Yoruba. Why can’t the Yoruba leave us alone for God’s sake? My grandfather went to court in 1889 to claim all the lands that belonged to him. He got a judgment. Then some people said, these lands were too much for one family – the place now called Ikorodu Road, they acquired it – for how much? For £27,000! My grandfather wasn’t around; he’s dead. But they forgot that this man gave them a land to build the first police barracks in Lagos. How could Bola Tinubu come all the way from wherever he came from (Kafaru brought him to me, turn Lagos into a place for Osun people in the secretariat). They’re radicalising the owners of Lagos with the way they’re acting. By the time they stand up you’ll be shocked. What are the people asking for? Give them what they deserve. Show them some respect. Okunnu did a lot for Lagos State; most parts of Victoria Island were sand-filled by the Federal Government. He and his colleagues at King’s College were able to excise Victoria Island and gave it to Lagos. In fact, Okunnu has done more for Lagos than any governor. Okunnu had his roots in Isale Eko.
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Lagos, Eko or whatever you want to call it belongs to the AWORIS..... Any other thing na long thing. The Bini's met the AWORIS when they arrived so what right do they have to claim ownership
tomakint: ICYMI: Bini, not Yoruba, are original owners of Lagos – Ajayi-Bembe
Published November 19, 2017
INTERVIEW
A former President of the Association of Lagos State Indigenes, Chief Layi Ajayi-Bembe, in this interview with BAYO AKINLOYE says the real owners of Lagos are the Bini, not the Yoruba
What is your lineage as a Lagosian?
My grandfather was Ajayi Bembe; the eighth Obanikoro of Lagos – my father was the last of his children. My mother was the first child of Gbajabiamila (of Olowogbowo fame) – of course, of Lagos. When it comes to the ownership of Lagos, it is sad when people talk about Lagos being no man’s land or Lagos being part of Yoruba land – I consider that position to be an abomination. Yes, because of the affinity or geographical location of Lagos, we’re nearer to the South-West (the Yoruba) than to other regions. It should be stated that Lagos has always been independent of the West. When I returned from England, (Chief Obafemi) Awolowo was in prison; before I came back to Nigeria, there had been agitations that Lagos wasn’t part of the West. No doubt that a lot of us speak Yoruba – in my family, we’re Bini. Oba of Lagos (Rilwan Akiolu) was completely right that the early settlers in Lagos were the Awori and the Bini. We’re talking about the Island of Lagos.
Extending it to the east of Lagos, you have Oshodi, the Tapa (from Niger State) were there. And, of course, we knew one another. I don’t understand why some of our brothers in the West think that we can be enslaved by them. In all my years, I have not seen what Afenifere has done for Lagos to inspire me because during the last constitutional conference, they were not talking about Lagos; they were talking about themselves. Don’t forget that the so-called Edo State was part of the West before. But to say Lagos is part of Yoruba land is not fair; it is not charitable. And when kabiyesi now said, Lagos is Bini, not only because we came from Benin, there are signs and relics of Benin all over Isale Eko. And obas (in Lagos) – we don’t call them ‘obas’, we call them ‘eleko’. My grandfather said in 1903 that when there was a dispute of which traditional rulers should wear crowns – my grandfather was at that meeting. Ooni of Ife had to come all the way from Ife to Lagos upon the invitation of Governor (John Hawley) Glover. And the question they asked him (Ooni) was, ‘Who are the obas that should wear crowns?’ He mentioned them – Lagos was not part of the list. We don’t wear crowns in Lagos. I remember, Pa Edegbele – that’s Prof. Edegbele’s father – when he said ‘oba’ is alien to Yoruba land that only the Bini use that title, there was a furore over that. But Edegbele was right. Note that politicians have done a lot of havoc in Yoruba land more than in other regions of the country. Nobody is going to doubt the hegemony of the Sultan of Sokoto in the North. But the Yoruba are fond of creating problems among themselves in Yoruba land. Permit me to digress: look at the recent installation of some kings in Ibadan, the Oyo State capital. A governor created 21 kings, for what? Is that what the people need at a time when the masses are hungry, civil servants are owed salaries and basic amenities are not available? It now appears there are more rulers than the ruled.
Are you saying Lagos belongs to the Bini people?
Lagos belongs to us – the Bini. When you get to Enuowa, they (the inhabitants) pay homage to Oba of Benin there. Enuowa is in Lagos; Idumota is like a Bini name; Iduntafa is Bini name; Idunmagbo is Bini name; Iduganran is Bini name; tell me, what further proof do you want (that the Bini own Lagos)? Why have some people tried hard to erode our identity and the labour of our ancestors? Today, if you go to the Lagos State Secretariat, you’ll hardly see the original indigenes of the state hold a prominent position. So, why are people crying about the quota system? You don’t ‘quotarise’ knowledge. Whatever is the case, I believe that the indigenes of Lagos – by the way, I was president of Association of Lagos Indigenes for almost 15 years – we know how our resources were plundered and carted away. Look at the fiasco called ‘Lagos @50’. The state government doesn’t recognise the true indigenes of Lagos State. Some of the indigenes work with them for the purpose of getting whatever they can get from the government. Some people are trying so hard to maintain the stupidity that Lagos doesn’t belong to anybody – that’s annoying.
What about Alhaji Femi Okunnu’s view of the Awori being the original owners of Lagos?
I am not a lawyer but Femi Okunnu is a lawyer – a Senior Advocate of Nigeria for that matter. On the issue of the original owners of Lagos, my attention was drawn to an article focused on the Idunganran celebration. Mr. Femi Okunnu happened to be my mentor; he was an inspiration to me particularly when I returned from England. He was not only elder ‘brother’ to me because we lived close together. They were living at No. 1 Ido Olowu Street and I was living at No. 7 Ido Olowu Street. I have known him for a long time. I remember when he came back from England as a young and vibrant lawyer. When Femi Okunnu himself was the Federal Commissioner for Works during the military regime, he was the one who actually acquired the area where you have the National Theatre, Iganmu. From whom did he acquire it? He got it from the indigenes; my grandfather had a place there. We must have a good perspective of history. People should learn not to mutilate history. The owners of Lagos are not the Yoruba; they are the Bini. We are Bini; there’s no ambiguity about that. To prove it further, the obas or the elekos, when they died, their bodies were taken to Benin for burial for a time. Tell me, who owns the land then?
Who are the Awori?
The Awori and the Bini are the same. If an Awori spoke to me when I was young, I understood him. My parents spoke Awori. The Awori are partly from Dahomey and partly from Benin. My forebears came from the riverine area through the Bight of Benin and settled in Badagry for a long time before moving down to Lagos. And when they moved down to Lagos where did they go? They went to Idunsagbe – a place famed for Bini culture and tradition. I am an Awori. Tell me, which state did they create for the Awori now? If you say the indigenous people of Lagos State are the Awori, then the Awori are the Bini. We must put history in its right perspective. The right perspective is that Lagos does not belong to the Yoruba; it belongs to the Bini. According to the Lyttleton Constitution, the West was created; the North was created and Lagos was made a colony and it later regained its independence.
Some may argue that the original Lagosians didn’t protect their legacy, allowing every Tom, Dick and Harry to hold sway politically and economically.
It is true that Lagos is open to everybody that could bring ideas. But when it comes to certain elements within the political spectrum in Nigeria… Look at it this way, will it surprise you that a representative of Lagos who calls himself a Lagosian representing the state in the National Assembly went to Kogi State to vie for the governorship? Isn’t that insulting? Some are even saying once (Osun State Governor, Rauf) Aregbesola has completed his tenure in Osun, he will come back to Lagos to contest a senatorial seat. We called Bola Tinubu, sat him down and told him how we accepted him and he let us down. I know the role I played when Bola Tinubu was coming in; when I gave him my second cousin, (Musiliu) Obanikoro to go along with him (I don’t talk to that one (Obanikoro) again after he had his hand in something embarrassing; because you don’t disgrace your family). I am not looking for anything from them. It is very wrong that people should trivialise the affairs of Lagos. For example, we kicked against (Prof. Wole) Soyinka being made the chairman of the Lagos @50 celebration. But nobody listened to us. Look at the fiasco; was it a success? Who bothered about it? People who will not celebrate the living are celebrating the dead – it doesn’t go beyond that. You acquire land from me for a public purpose and the next thing you did was to share it with your siblings, friends and other loved ones. It is really sad for people to proclaim Lagos as no man’s land. Lagos is so accommodating; it is only here you see an Igbo man being made a commissioner. Even the Yoruba that are shouting, how many Lagosians are in their cabinets? They all live in Lagos; we know them. Some of them benefitted from the liberty Lagos offers. But ask them: what have they done for their host communities? Can you imagine Orji Kalu, who bought land here, saying Lagos belongs to nobody? They just talk.
Don’t you think Prof. Wole Soyinka deserved to have been the chairman of the Lagos @50 celebration?
I am not used to Soyinka and I don’t want to be acquainted with him. It is unfortunate that because he was made the chairman of Lagos @50, he began to insult people, claiming that his father had a land in Lagos. We traced the land – one plot of land – and discovered that the land was bought from my grandfather. People like him go around insulting others. Has he not insulted Femi Okunnu before? Tell me who Wole Soyinka has never insulted? He is part of the Tinubu group. Is he not an Ogun man? I don’t think he has a right to say that Lagos is no man’s land. Who is he to say that? I think Okunnu knew better; I don’t think he meant what he said the way the press reported him. What he said is that Lagos is ‘part’ of Yoruba land; he didn’t say it was owned by the Yoruba. We need to be discreet in our definition. Geographically, we’re in the West and culturally, we speak Yoruba. If an Igbo man speaks Yoruba fluently, does that make him a Yoruba? Go to Lagos State House of Assembly and count how many of them are truly Lagos indigenes. Again, Okunnu was an active participant in the creation of Lagos State together with (Philip) Asiodu and Alison Ayida. They facilitated the creation of the state; there was a western state then. If Okunnu had advocated the merger of Lagos with the western region then, one would have thought otherwise. Wole Soyinka didn’t want Lagos to be created at that time. Soyinka used to be very radical but having got into the group of Bola Tinubu’s scientific imposition, he has been mellowing down. Soyinka would be the one that would stand for the truth when people were accused of certificate forgery and other ills. He was always at the forefront; he has become a turncoat. What happened to him? I respected him; he may not know me and he doesn’t need to know me.
So, you think Okunnu is on the same page with you when he talked about the early settlers of Lagos?
I believe Okunnu was actually agitating for the indigenes. He was president of Lagos State indigenes before me – we have Isale Eko Descendants Union, which we all belong to. All I am saying is this: Lagos is not part of Yoruba. The settlers are Bini. Wasn’t Benin part of the West before until the Mid-West was created? The Bini agitated for that, insisting that we’re not part of the Yoruba. Why can’t the Yoruba leave us alone for God’s sake? My grandfather went to court in 1889 to claim all the lands that belonged to him. He got a judgment. Then some people said, these lands were too much for one family – the place now called Ikorodu Road, they acquired it – for how much? For £27,000! My grandfather wasn’t around; he’s dead. But they forgot that this man gave them a land to build the first police barracks in Lagos. How could Bola Tinubu come all the way from wherever he came from (Kafaru brought him to me, turn Lagos into a place for Osun people in the secretariat). They’re radicalising the owners of Lagos with the way they’re acting. By the time they stand up you’ll be shocked. What are the people asking for? Give them what they deserve. Show them some respect. Okunnu did a lot for Lagos State; most parts of Victoria Island were sand-filled by the Federal Government. He and his colleagues at King’s College were able to excise Victoria Island and gave it to Lagos. In fact, Okunnu has done more for Lagos than any governor. Okunnu had his roots in Isale Eko.
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Firstly, aworis are yorubas, and are the original settlers of what now forms Lagos Island which is an extension of Ogun state. The Binis were just merchants that found their way to Lagos for trade purposes.. Lagos state as an entity is a yorubaland.
Lol continue deceiving yourself. Your eyes will soon clear if you have personal issue with Tinubu go and settle it.you are not a lagosian and stop making mockery of yourself.
You don't have show your ignorance. Thats always your next line of action . My past thread of two years back. When our union was fighting for lagos student bursary is enough evidence that we are not happy with tinubu and his appointees , Lagos at 50 we rejected Soyinka but they imposed him on us. Go back to your state land grabber oshi
Lipscomb: Lol continue deceiving yourself. Your eyes will soon clear if you have personal issue with Tinubu go and settle it.you are not a lagosian and stop making mockery of yourself.
I don't claim to be lagosian. I'm from royal home in epe. We are different till today and we refer to Lagos as Lagos and epe as epe. We just find ourself under this map thats why we wanted lagoon state to stop people like you and Mr tinubu. Ambode incidence should have thought you lesson that we aren't ass licker
Wow... My eyes have really opened to the issues of Nigeria... It definitely means that Aworis are different From Yorubas and are silenced the same way The Fulanis have silenced Minorities in the North.... So the Southwest has the following tribes Yoruba, Awori, Egun, Ijebu? Wow... Its amazing how there is constant peace and stability in the region.... I hope the Aworis Can get more representation in Government to give them more sense of ownership....
I don't claim to be lagosian. I'm from royal home in epe. We are different till today and we refer to Lagos as Lagos and epe as epe. We just find ourself under this map thats why we wanted lagoon state to stop people like you and Mr tinubu. Ambode incidence should have thought you lesson that we aren't ass licker
Wow... Thanks for your contributions on this thread, i ve leant a lot... You guys should continue to coexist peacefully with the Yorubas..they are nice people.. I believe with time, Awori can produce a governor... I think you guys should back the PDP in the next elections..
Lipscomb: From all indication he has beef against Tinubu but instead to Ajayi to attack Tinubu personally he was trying to cause another problem in the southwest.
People that lacking historical facts trying to masturbating on history. Some of us that know the history of Lagos not even based on oral history but our findings also include archaeology that is enough evidence to back up our claims .
This is why I don't have respect for some prominent Nigerian newspapers granting press conferences to a stupid fellow is what Keep wondering me.
Bini people has always claiming seniority to other tribes and little wonder bini kingdom is not the most powerful kingdom in Nigeria.
Shameless Yorubas always do this. I.e talk divisively in the hope this will further their private agenda even when they know their utterances and action harm the Yorubas in general.
We saw Agbaje do it during the election to ingratiate himself to Igbos and pander to their tendency to play ethnic politics.
Odumakin, Gani Adam's etal do this also. It really is a shame how envy of Tinubu and his influence is leading many Yoruba leaders to display shamelessness in action and speech.
stonemasonn: Are Benin people laying claim to Lagos? the writer is a Lagosian.
Not just a Lagosian. His ancestor was one of the Benin men who founded Eko. Omo Eko patataki.
The truth is known. Hope better detribalised generations to come will seek the truth and nothing but the truth only.
I guess the gentleman is not happy the people from Osun state have now elbowed original Lagosians from Lagos affairs.
Anywhere such happens, people are likely to highlight the truth lest it be ignored or even tramples upon.
Benin do not want Lagos. The British took it in 1860s and Benin ceded more territories in 1914.
All original Benin people who want to be members of the current Greater Benin Nation are welcome. Those who do not want God bless them too. Not by force.
Not just a Lagosian. His ancestor was one of the Benin men who founded Eko. Omo Eko patataki.
The truth is known. Hope better detribalised generations to come will seek the truth and nothing but the truth only.
I guess the gentleman is not happy the people from Osun state have now elbowed original Lagosians from Lagos affairs.
Anywhere such happens, people are likely to highlight the truth lest it be ignored or even tramples upon.
Benin do not want Lagos. The British took it in 1860s and Benin ceded more territories in 1914.
All original Benin people who want to be members of the current Greater Benin Nation are welcome. Those who do not want God bless them too. Not by force.
Good luck to all.
It is unfair to claim Benin people were the original Lagosians, it is just like saying the Gambaris are the original Ilorin people. What about the Fon, Awori, Ajah, Egba and Ijebu people?
stonemasonn: It is unfair to claim Benin people were the original Lagosians, it is just like saying the Gambaris are the original Ilorin people. What about the Fon, Awori, Ajah, Egba and Ijebu people?
In essence Benins were the first to truly organize Lagos. Using the sophisticated administration already long established in Benin.
There were Indians in the Americas before Columbus arrived. But when is the foundation of New York, San Francisco, Caracas, Havana, Toronto, Rio de Janeiro, Rio Plata, Lima, Kingston and others dated as?
In essence Benins were the first to truly organize Lagos. Using the sophisticated administration already long established in Benin.
There were Indians in the Americas before Columbus arrived. But when is the foundation of New York, San Francisco, Caracas, Havana, Toronto, Rio de Janeiro, Rio Plata, Lima, Kingston and others dated as?
Bini did not organize Lagos. They met Lagos organized. They went there to trade like any other group. They were invited to Lagos by Ile Ife princes and Oyo Princes being that they are siblings. Otherwise the Ijebu would have killed them. This is why they stayed in a small area of Lagos Island forming Oba of Lagos. Ijebu from time of trade controlled the whole sea and fought the British terribly for it. Ijebu killed any one, even Yorubas that ventured to take part in their sea fortune. Where were the Bini to fight if they truly controlled anything? They formed obaship in their territory like others did and used marriage to extend their influence.
They did not in anyway cede any territory because a chief priest grabbed the Obaship. Chief priest from Ile Ife. Lagos as of then and before the Benin came was a cacophony of Yoruba people with many Oyo’s here. Those Oyos came with Benin and also have their Obaship in Lagos. Others like the Egba came after. This is why Lagos speaks Oyo dialect. Lagos has been known long before, the Ijebus controlled it fiercely and violently for trade. While Aworis were farmers and more welcoming. Eko is pure Yoruba and is a farm settlement.
Bini did not organize Lagos. They met Lagos organized. They went there to trade like any other group. They were invited to Lagos by Ile Ife princes and Oyo Princes being that they are siblings. Otherwise the Ijebu would have killed them. This is why they stayed in a small area of Lagos Island forming Oba of Lagos. Ijebu from time of trade controlled the whole sea and fought the British terribly for it. Ijebu killed any one, even Yorubas that ventured to take part in their sea fortune. Where were the Bini to fight if they truly controlled anything? They formed obaship in their territory like others did and used marriage to extend their influence.
They did not in anyway cede any territory because a chief priest grabbed the Obaship. Chief priest from Ile Ife. Lagos as of then and before the Benin came was a cacophony of Yoruba people with many Oyo’s here. Those Oyos came with Benin and also have their Obaship in Lagos. Others like the Egba came after. This is why Lagos speaks Oyo dialect. Lagos has been known long before, the Ijebus controlled it fiercely and violently for trade. While Aworis were farmers and more welcoming. Eko is pure Yoruba and is a farm settlement.
So this Ile ife political story never tire you? So you know the origin of the ruling families of Lagos more than Oba Akiolu and his immediate predecessor?
Who exactly are you? Eleko Ashipa or Ado talking from heaven? Kikikikiki
So this Ile ife political story never tire you? So you know the origin of the ruling families of Lagos more than Oba Akiolu and his immediate predecessor?
Who exactly are you? Eleko Ashipa or Ado talking from heaven? Kikikikiki
Oba Akiolu’s ancestor is from Ile Ife! A chief priest. The families who had a Benin ancestral link are still fighting to be recognized.
So this Ile ife political story never tire you? So you know the origin of the ruling families of Lagos more than Oba Akiolu and his immediate predecessor?
Who exactly are you? Eleko Ashipa or Ado talking from heaven? Kikikikiki
you nearly choke me with that response you gave that Lagosian pretender, I swear man you really have an understanding of the history of Lagos. You said the whole truth about the Binis
you nearly choke me with that response you gave that Lagosian pretender, I swear man you really have an understanding of the history of Lagos. You said the whole truth about the Binis
For the one thousandth time oba of lagos himself telling you with his own mouth at 5.45 Minutes "benin are not the owners of lagos' in the complete video you refused to post.
Bini did not organize Lagos. They met Lagos organized. They went there to trade like any other group. They were invited to Lagos by Ile Ife princes and Oyo Princes being that they are siblings. Otherwise the Ijebu would have killed them. This is why they stayed in a small area of Lagos Island forming Oba of Lagos. Ijebu from time of trade controlled the whole sea and fought the British terribly for it. Ijebu killed any one, even Yorubas that ventured to take part in their sea fortune. Where were the Bini to fight if they truly controlled anything? They formed obaship in their territory like others did and used marriage to extend their influence.
They did not in anyway cede any territory because a chief priest grabbed the Obaship. Chief priest from Ile Ife. Lagos as of then and before the Benin came was a cacophony of Yoruba people with many Oyo’s here. Those Oyos came with Benin and also have their Obaship in Lagos. Others like the Egba came after. This is why Lagos speaks Oyo dialect. Lagos has been known long before, the Ijebus controlled it fiercely and violently for trade. While Aworis were farmers and more welcoming. Eko is pure Yoruba and is a farm settlement.
, nairaland is not what it used to be. It now reeks of ignorance and stupidity
granting press conferences to a stupid fellow is what Keep wondering me.