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D Office Of A Prophet & The Gift Of Prophecy Aren't Dsame. by Nobody: 3:57pm On Oct 26, 2020
Dat U Receive Revelations 4rm God Doesn't Make U A Prophet, Yes. Eph4:11 A Prophet Is An Office (leadership Position) Just Like D Apostles, Evangelist,Pastors & Teachers. Many People Claim Titles Dey Do Not Understand. D Office Of A Prophet Is A Call Of Death (suffering) Where God Himself Put To (death) An End D Works Of D Flesh.
Take Note: Spiritual Gifts & Ministry Gifts Are Not Dsame.

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Re: D Office Of A Prophet & The Gift Of Prophecy Aren't Dsame. by HundHunter(m): 4:22pm On Oct 26, 2020
So also OP, that you can write nonsense, does not make you a scholar.

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Re: D Office Of A Prophet & The Gift Of Prophecy Aren't Dsame. by Nobody: 4:30pm On Oct 26, 2020
HundHunter:
So also OP, that you can write nonsense, does make you a scholar.
Professor, What Makes It A Nonsense?
Re: D Office Of A Prophet & The Gift Of Prophecy Aren't Dsame. by petra1(m): 4:38pm On Oct 26, 2020
Truvel:
Dat U Receive Revelations 4rm God Doesn't Make U A Prophet, Yes. Eph4:11 A Prophet Is An Office (leadership Position) Just Like D Apostles, Evangelist,Pastors & Teachers. Many People Claim Titles Dey Do Not Understand. D Office Of A Prophet Is A Call Of Death (suffering) Where God Himself Put To (death) An End D Works Of D Flesh.
Take Note: Spiritual Gifts & Ministry Gifts Are Not Dsame.

Yes o. He that prophesies is different from He that has the Gift of Prophecy and He that hath The Gift Of Prophecy is different from He that is a Prophet .
Re: D Office Of A Prophet & The Gift Of Prophecy Aren't Dsame. by CaptMarvel(m): 11:07pm On Oct 26, 2020
Truvel:
Dat U Receive Revelations 4rm God Doesn't Make U A Prophet, Yes. Eph4:11 A Prophet Is An Office (leadership Position) Just Like D Apostles, Evangelist,Pastors & Teachers. Many People Claim Titles Dey Do Not Understand. D Office Of A Prophet Is A Call Of Death (suffering) Where God Himself Put To (death) An End D Works Of D Flesh.
Take Note: Spiritual Gifts & Ministry Gifts Are Not Dsame.
you are right though! But if one continue to operate in that gift of seeing revelations, he can function in the office..
Re: D Office Of A Prophet & The Gift Of Prophecy Aren't Dsame. by JourneytoEL(f): 5:05am On Oct 27, 2020
you are right. There's a difference between a prophet and the gift of prophecy. An apostle or evangelist can once in a while receive revelations that doesn't make them prophets. Prophets are sort of born with it or receive their full office later in life. They receive revelations very frequently.
Re: D Office Of A Prophet & The Gift Of Prophecy Aren't Dsame. by Nobody: 8:12am On Oct 27, 2020
CaptMarvel:
you are right though! But if one continue to operate in that gift of seeing revelations, he can function in the office..
No. Unless God Take Him/her To Dat Level Or Position
Dis Are D Levels Of D Prophetic:
1. The Office Of A Prophet (ministry Gift/leadership Gift) E.g Moses, Elijah, Agabus Etc. Dey Operate In Higher Level Of Authority.
2.Prophetic Ministry
3. Gift Of Prophecy
4. Spirit Of Prophecy
5. Prophecies Of D Bible( Dis Includes Fulfilled & Yet To Be Fulfilled Prophecies.
Re: D Office Of A Prophet & The Gift Of Prophecy Aren't Dsame. by jesusjnr2020(m): 8:15am On Oct 27, 2020
One thing many don't know is that God doesn't cater to man-made rules.

Office this, position that, as men try in futility to put God into a box.

That's why when God does something however He desires to do them, they would become confused and lost. And start asking unwarranted questions, like, are you this or are you that?

A prophet is simply someone close to God. And to be close to God, the person must walk in His ways because two cannot walk together unless they agree. So it's not as complex as many want to make it seem.

The closer the person is to God, the more God would want to reveal to the person or entrust him with.

It just like the person who knows the most about someone is usually the person's best friend, as that's the person he would want to reveal the most of His secrets to.

That's the thought process that compelled God to reveal the impending destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah to Abraham, for Abraham had become too close to God for God to keep that information from him.

That's a similar thing with David who was a man after God's heart, as many don't know that David is one of the greatest prophets of the old testament even though he wasn't formally called one.

This was also reflected in the life of John the brother of James who was the closest disciple to Jesus, for instance, when they had the last supper, it took John to compel Jesus to reveal who His betrayer would be. It's by no coincidence that John was given the greatest extent of revelations of all the apostles of his day. He was the best friend of Jesus while He was here on Earth.

It's that easy to become a prophet, all it takes is to get closer to God. And the closer you are the better because there are some things God would want to do on Earth, that He wouldn't want to keep from you.

Aside that, He would also want to use you achieve some of His plans.

Moreover all the apostles were prophets and even more as Jesus said that he that's the least in the kingdom of God was greater than John the Baptist who was more than a prophet himself.

A prophet can be predestined by God or chosen as David was.

They all meet the requirement of walking in the ways of God.

God bless.

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Re: D Office Of A Prophet & The Gift Of Prophecy Aren't Dsame. by Nobody: 9:52am On Oct 27, 2020
jesusjnr2020:
One thing many don't know is that God doesn't cater to man-made rules.

Office this, position that, as men try in futility to put God into a box.

That's why when God does something however He desires to do them, they would become confused and lost. And start asking unwarranted questions, like, are you this or are you that?

A prophet is simply someone close to God. And to be close to God, the person must walk in His ways because two cannot walk together unless they agree. So it's not as complex as many want to make it seem.

The closer the person is to God, the more God would want to reveal to the person or entrust him with.

It just like the person who knows the most about someone is usually the person's best friend, as that's the person he would want to reveal the most of His secrets to.

That's the thought process that compelled God to reveal the impending destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah to Abraham, for Abraham had become too close to God for God to keep that information from him.

That's a similar thing with David who was a man after God's heart, as many don't know that David is one of the greatest prophets of the old testament even though he wasn't formally called one.

This was also reflected in the life of John the brother of James who was the closest disciple to Jesus, for instance, when they had the last supper, it took John to compel Jesus to reveal who His betrayer would be. It's by no coincidence that John was given the greatest extent of revelations of all the apostles of his day. He was the best friend of Jesus while He was here on Earth.

It's that easy to become a prophet, all it takes is to get closer to God. And the closer you are the better because there are some things God would want to do on Earth, that He wouldn't want to keep from you.

Aside that, He would also want to use you achieve some of His plans.

Moreover all the apostles were prophets and even more as Jesus said that he that's the least in the kingdom of God was greater than John the Baptist who was more than a prophet himself.

A prophet can be predestined by God or chosen as David was.

They all meet the requirement of walking in the ways of God.

God bless.
U Are Perfectly Wrongly. A Prophet Is Not Just Any One Who Is Close To God. It's A Call. God Doesn't Call D Qualified, He Qualifies D Called. Many Prophets In D Bible Were Not Close To God B4 God Called Dem. To Be A Prophet Is Not By Man's Will But By God's Will.
Re: D Office Of A Prophet & The Gift Of Prophecy Aren't Dsame. by Soundminded: 12:17pm On Oct 27, 2020
Ride on preacher�
Re: D Office Of A Prophet & The Gift Of Prophecy Aren't Dsame. by jesusjnr2020(m): 12:50pm On Oct 27, 2020
Truvel:
U Are Perfectly Wrongly. A Prophet Is Not Just Any One Who Is Close To God. It's A Call. God Doesn't Call D Qualified, He Qualifies D Called. Many Prophets In D Bible Were Not Close To God B4 God Called Dem. To Be A Prophet Is Not By Man's But By God's Will.
As I said in my post, a lot of these ideas are man-made and not of God.

God has never chosen the wicked to become His prophet. Never!

It's always the righteous, so it's a prerequisite for God to consider or qualify any man to be His prophet.

God only empowers the man after he had met that requirement.

It seems you don't understand what it means or takes to be close to God, otherwise you'd know that it's all it takes to be a prophet of God.

You don't have to agree with my view though but it's the Truth if you truly know how God works.

Thanks and God bless.
Re: D Office Of A Prophet & The Gift Of Prophecy Aren't Dsame. by Nobody: 1:01pm On Oct 27, 2020
jesusjnr2020:
As I said in my post, a lot of these ideas are man-made and not of God.

God has never chosen the wicked to become His prophet. Never!

It's always the righteous, so it's a prerequisite for God to consider or qualify any man to be His prophet.

God only empowers the man after he had met that requirement.

It seems you don't understand what it means or takes to be close to God, otherwise you'd know that it's all it takes to be a prophet of God.

You don't have to agree with my view though but it's the Truth if you truly know how God works.

Thanks and God bless.
God Can Use Or Call Anyone Irrespective Of How Wicked D Person May Be. Yes, He Is God. Infact, Many People Used Or Called By God In D Bible Were Not Called Because Dey Were Righteous. E.g Moses He Committed Murder & Ran Away It Was Where He Ran To God Appeared To Him, Apostle Paul Wasn't Called By God Because He Was Righteous. He Himself Said Dat He Persecuted D Christians.
Re: D Office Of A Prophet & The Gift Of Prophecy Aren't Dsame. by jesusjnr2020(m): 1:24pm On Oct 27, 2020
Truvel:
God Can Use Or Call Anyone Irrespective Of How Wicked D Person May Be. Yes, He Is God. Infact, Many People Used Or Called By God Because Dey Were Righteous. E.g Apostle Paul Wasn't Called By God Because He Was Righteous. He Himself Said Dat He Persecuted D Christians.
Yes God can use anybody even the devil, but that's not the point here, but to be a prophet/man of God, which requires righteousness. God looks at the heart.

It must have something that attracts Him and that thing is called righteousness.

And if you think Paul wasn't righteous because he ignorantly persecuted Christians, you think wrong. Paul was an exception to the rule of the Pharisees who were mostly hypocrites and wicked because he was a righteous and God-fearing man. The only thing he lacked was the knowledge of the Truth, which was the reason for his persecution of the Christians as he sincerely believed he was doing it in obedience to God.

So that was all God had to correct, just to give him that knowledge, as God had already seen the sincerity of purpose in what he was doing. And you could see how easy it was for him to adapt after switching and the pace at which he took off. Because he was already on that course, all he needed was the Truth. That's all, so when it came he was able to run with it.

So that's how God works. He's not man.

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Re: D Office Of A Prophet & The Gift Of Prophecy Aren't Dsame. by jesusjnr2020(m): 1:26pm On Oct 27, 2020
Truvel:
God Can Use Or Call Anyone Irrespective Of How Wicked D Person May Be. Yes, He Is God. Infact, Many People Used Or Called By God In D Bible Were Not Called Because Dey Were Righteous. E.g Moses He Committed Murder & Ran Away It Was Where He Ran To God Appeared To Him, Apostle Paul Wasn't Called By God Because He Was Righteous. He Himself Said Dat He Persecuted D Christians.
Just saw you had also added Moses. It's now beyond obvious you don't know what it takes to be a righteous man in the sight of God.
Re: D Office Of A Prophet & The Gift Of Prophecy Aren't Dsame. by CaptMarvel(m): 1:47pm On Oct 27, 2020
Truvel:
No. Unless God Take Him/her To Dat Level Or Position
Dis Are D Levels Of D Prophetic:
1. The Office Of A Prophet (ministry Gift/leadership Gift) E.g Moses, Elijah, Agabus Etc. Dey Operate In Higher Level Of Authority.
2.Prophetic Ministry
3. Gift Of Prophecy
4. Spirit Of Prophecy
5. Prophecies Of D Bible( Dis Includes Fulfilled & Yet To Be Fulfilled Prophecies.
The foremost office you wrote consist of people Jesus says even the least in the kingdom of God is greater than them! We have a more better office than all these, the office of the Sons of God.

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Re: D Office Of A Prophet & The Gift Of Prophecy Aren't Dsame. by Nobody: 2:13pm On Oct 27, 2020
CaptMarvel:
The foremost office you wrote consist of people Jesus says even the least in the kingdom of God is greater than them! We have a more better office than all these, the office of the Sons of God.
Lol, What Do U Mean By D Office Of The Sons Of God?
Re: D Office Of A Prophet & The Gift Of Prophecy Aren't Dsame. by Nobody: 2:20pm On Oct 27, 2020
jesusjnr2020:
Yes God can use anybody even the devil, but that's not the point here, but to be a prophet/man of God, which requires righteousness. God looks at the heart.

It must have something that attracts Him and that thing is called righteousness.

And if you think Paul wasn't righteous because he ignorantly persecuted Christians, you think wrong. Paul was an exception to the rule of the Pharisees who were mostly hypocrites and wicked because he was a righteous and God-fearing man. The only thing he lacked was the knowledge of the Truth, which was the reason for his persecution of the Christians as he sincerely believed he was doing it in obedience to God.

So that was all God had to correct, just to give him that knowledge, as God had already seen the sincerity of purpose in what he was doing. And you could see how easy it was for him to adapt after switching and the pace at which he took off. Because he was already on that course, all he needed was the Truth. That's all, so when it came he was able to run with it.

So that's how God works. He's not man.
God Doesn't Call D Righteous ( D Qualified) He Qualifies D Called. To Be A Prophet Or A Man Of God Is Not By Man's Will But By God's Will. No Man Can Be A Prophet By His Own Self-effort Or By His Own Righteousness.
Re: D Office Of A Prophet & The Gift Of Prophecy Aren't Dsame. by Nobody: 2:22pm On Oct 27, 2020
jesusjnr2020:
Just saw you had also added Moses. It's now beyond obvious you don't know what it takes to be a righteous man in the sight of God.
Ok, Tell Me What It Takes To Be A Righteous Man. I Want To Learn.
Re: D Office Of A Prophet & The Gift Of Prophecy Aren't Dsame. by CaptMarvel(m): 4:37pm On Oct 27, 2020
Truvel:
Lol, What Do U Mean By D Office Of The Sons Of God?
lolz! grin search the scripture bro! John 1:12-13 is a good reference. I'm not sure Jesus instituted any other office apart from that, any differences is just the manifestation of gifts and strength as given by the Holy - Spirit, we are Sons and joint heirs of the kingdom and He has made us all Kings and Priest unto our God.
Re: D Office Of A Prophet & The Gift Of Prophecy Aren't Dsame. by Nobody: 4:50pm On Oct 27, 2020
CaptMarvel:
lolz! grin search the scripture bro! John 1:12-13 is a good reference. I'm not sure Jesus instituted any other office apart from that, any differences is just the manifestation of gifts and strength as given by the Holy - Spirit, we are Sons and joint heirs of the kingdom and He has made us all Kings and Priest unto our God.
What U Are Saying Is Completely Different 4rm What I'm Saying. I'm Talking Ministries & Spiritual Gifts. Not D General Sons, Joint Heirs, Kings Or Priest U Are Talking About.
Re: D Office Of A Prophet & The Gift Of Prophecy Aren't Dsame. by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:19pm On Oct 27, 2020
So what exactly quantify one as a prophet of God? embarassed
Re: D Office Of A Prophet & The Gift Of Prophecy Aren't Dsame. by ichuka(m): 10:09pm On Oct 27, 2020
Truvel:
Dat U Receive Revelations 4rm God Doesn't Make U A Prophet, Yes. Eph4:11 A Prophet Is An Office (leadership Position) Just Like D Apostles, Evangelist,Pastors & Teachers. Many People Claim Titles Dey Do Not Understand. D Office Of A Prophet Is A Call Of Death (suffering) Where God Himself Put To (death) An End D Works Of D Flesh.
Take Note: Spiritual Gifts & Ministry Gifts Are Not Dsame.
you are wrong bro.
nobody walks into the office of a prophet. fact is its not an office one can walk in n out as they pls.rather its who you are.its either you are born a prophet or not.u can't b schooled to b a prophet.
its who you are.
Re: D Office Of A Prophet & The Gift Of Prophecy Aren't Dsame. by Nobody: 7:49am On Oct 28, 2020
CaptMarvel:
lolz! grin search the scripture bro! John 1:12-13 is a good reference. I'm not sure Jesus instituted any other office apart from that, any differences is just the manifestation of gifts and strength as given by the Holy - Spirit, we are Sons and joint heirs of the kingdom and He has made us all Kings and Priest unto our God.
Gifts & Ministries Are Not Dsame. Read D Post & D Bible Passage I Gave.
Re: D Office Of A Prophet & The Gift Of Prophecy Aren't Dsame. by jesusjnr2020(m): 12:17pm On Oct 28, 2020
Truvel:
God Doesn't Call D Righteous ( D Qualified) He Qualifies D Called. To Be A Prophet Or A Man Of God Is Not By Man's Will But By God's Will. No Man Can Be A Prophet By His Own Self-effort Or By His Own Righteousness.
Many are called, but few are chosen.

The difference between those who are just called and the chosen is righteousness/obedience.

God is seeking men to empower and use for His purpose, and it's the heart He uses as a basis to choose them. That's how he found David and some others. They had what God seeks in the heart of a man which is righteousness.

If God just qualifies anyone He sees, he would have qualified Eliab. But He didn't but rejected him because Eliab didn't have the basic quality for God to work with, which is righteousness.

Moses, a rare prophet said, "I wish all men were prophets". That was also the desire of God for all men. He more or less achieved that desire with the apostles if not all the individuals of church Jesus built where as they were all prophets and even more, as they all received the fullness of God's Spirit, some more than others.

It's God's greatest desire that men become nothing less than what His Son Jesus was, because Jesus had the full measure of the Spirit. And God sown Him to multiply His Spiritual quality meaning that (each seed of) the harvest should also possess the similar quality to that of the Seed God sowed.

But we've chosen to settle for less than the fullness God intended for each individuals of the church, hence the man-made idea of different callings, gifts and all that.
Re: D Office Of A Prophet & The Gift Of Prophecy Aren't Dsame. by Nobody: 12:40pm On Oct 28, 2020
jesusjnr2020:
Many are called, but few are chosen.

The difference between those who are just called and the chosen is righteousness/obedience.

God is seeking men to empower and use for His purpose, and it's the heart He uses as a basis to choose them. That's how he found David and some others. They had what God seeks in the heart of a man which is righteousness.

If God just qualifies anyone He sees, he would have qualified Eliab. But He didn't but rejected him because Eliab didn't have the basic quality for God to work with, which is righteousness.

Moses, a rare prophet said, "I wish all men were prophets". That was also the desire of God for all men. He more or less achieved that desire with the apostles if not all the individuals of church Jesus built where as they were all prophets and even more, as they all received the fullness of God's Spirit, some more than others.

It's God's greatest desire that men become nothing less than what His Son Jesus was, because Jesus had the full measure of the Spirit. And God sown Him to multiply His Spiritual quality meaning that (each seed of) the harvest should also possess the similar quality to that of the Seed God sowed.

But we've chosen to settle for less than the fullness God intended for each individuals of the church, hence the man-made idea of different callings, gifts and all that.
I Still Maintain My Word. God Chooses Whosoever He Desires To Use Whether Righteous Or Not.
Re: D Office Of A Prophet & The Gift Of Prophecy Aren't Dsame. by jesusjnr2020(m): 12:48pm On Oct 28, 2020
Truvel:
Ok, Tell Me What It Takes To Be A Righteous Man. I Want To Learn.
Moses was a righteous and humble man from the onset. That's why he came to the rescue of one of his oppressed brothers despite that he could have just ignored it since it didn't affect him directly. He hence began to save the Israelites from their oppressors but his time was not yet come.

So that's act didn't make him a sinner because it was a similar thing he did when his time had come, only that it was on a much larger scale. If that act made him a murderer, he would be even worse when he pointed the rod back at the sea, and consequently killed Pharoah and all his men.
Re: D Office Of A Prophet & The Gift Of Prophecy Aren't Dsame. by jesusjnr2020(m): 12:51pm On Oct 28, 2020
Truvel:
I Still Maintain My Word. God Chooses Whosoever He Desires To Use Whether Righteous Or Not.
It's okay.
Re: D Office Of A Prophet & The Gift Of Prophecy Aren't Dsame. by Nobody: 1:02pm On Oct 28, 2020
jesusjnr2020:
Moses was a righteous and humble man from the onset. That's why he came to the rescue of one of his oppressed brothers despite that he could have just ignored it since it didn't affect him directly. He hence began to save the Israelites from their oppressors but his time was not yet come.

So that's act didn't make him a sinner because it was a similar thing he did when his time had come, only that it was on a much larger scale. If that act made him a murderer, he would be even worse when he pointed the rod back at the sea, and consequently killed Pharoah and all his men.
Moses Wasn't Righteous When God Called Him. I Will Tell U Why. He Killed An Egyptian Who Was Maltreating An Isrealite & Buried D Body In D Sand. When He Got To Know Dat He Was Caught In D Act By Someone, Out Fear, Guilt, Punishment 4 What He Had Done, He Ran Away. It Was Where He Ran To Dat God Met Him.
Re: D Office Of A Prophet & The Gift Of Prophecy Aren't Dsame. by jesusjnr2020(m): 1:08pm On Oct 28, 2020
Truvel:
Moses Wasn't Righteous When God Called Him. I Will Tell U Why. He Killed An Egyptian Who Was Maltreating An Isrealite & Buried D Body In D Sand. When He Got To Know Dat He Was Caught In D Act By Someone, Out Fear, Guilt, Punishment 4 What He Had Done, He Ran Away. It Was Where He Ran To Dat God Met Him.
He also killed much more of them in the red sea na. That should make him more of a sinner if so.

Him running has nothing to do with him not being righteous but that his time hadn't come and he hadn't been equipped for the job.
Re: D Office Of A Prophet & The Gift Of Prophecy Aren't Dsame. by Nobody: 1:35pm On Oct 28, 2020
jesusjnr2020:
He also killed much more of them in the red sea na. That should make him more of a sinner if so.

Him running has nothing to do with him not being righteous but that his time hadn't come and he hadn't been equipped for the job.
D Much U Said He Killed, God Permitted Him. I'm Talking Abt When He Wasn't Called Yet By God. 4 Ur Information, Moses Did Not Know God Den Or Who God Is. He Didn't Know God At All. It Was God Dat Made Himself Known To Him. Just Like When Paul Didn't Know Who Christ Was, Until Jesus Appeared To Him On His Way To Damascus.
Re: D Office Of A Prophet & The Gift Of Prophecy Aren't Dsame. by jesusjnr2020(m): 1:55pm On Oct 28, 2020
Truvel:
D Much U Said He Killed, God Permitted Him. I'm Talking Abt When He Wasn't Called Yet By God. 4 Ur Information, Moses Did Know God Den Or Who God Is. He Didn't Know God At All. It Was God Dat Made Himself Known To Him. Just Like When Paul Didn't Know Who Christ Was, Until Jesus Appeared To Him On His Way To Damascus.
Lol! God permitted him?

How did you even know God didn't permit him in the early instance?

Even though Moses didn't know God, God knew him and led him because he was predestined by God to save the Israelites from their oppressors.

That's why God preserved his life when other baby boys were being killed.

And God designed everything inclusive of that instance and that of Moses exposure by his fellow Israelite to facilitate his departure from Egypt to prepare him in the wilderness. So that when God's appointed time came, He would equip him and send him back to completely deliver God's people from the same oppressors.
Re: D Office Of A Prophet & The Gift Of Prophecy Aren't Dsame. by Nobody: 2:05pm On Oct 28, 2020
jesusjnr2020:
Lol! God permitted him?

How did you even know God didn't permit him in the early instance?

Even though Moses didn't know God, God knew him and led him because he was predestined by God to save the Israelites from their oppressors.

That's why God preserved his life when other baby boys were being killed.

And God designed everything inclusive of that instance and that of Moses exposure by his fellow Israelite to facilitate his departure from Egypt to prepare him in the wilderness. So that when God's appointed time came, He would equip him and send him back to completely deliver God's people from the same oppressors.
God Won't Make Anyone He Chose To Use To Commit Crime No Matter What.

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