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Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by Sixfeetbelle: 10:53am On Dec 19, 2020
demmymoney:


Because she didn't show any credible evidence

Or do u believe we should not investigate or we should believe everyone who says something about them being violated or abused without proper investigations

I don't believe her but I also didn't dismiss her claims. That's what any normal human being should have done.

Most of you didn't investigate the story because it's a guy. You saw the chats and dismissed her case instantly. That she was a paid prostitute even helped most of you to nail the confirm. Some even blamed her for going willingly to his hotel room which is where my anger lies.
Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by demmymoney(m): 10:55am On Dec 19, 2020
Sixfeetbelle:


I don't believe her but I also didn't dismiss her claims. That's what any normal human being should have done.

Most of you didn't investigate the story because it's a guy. You saw the chats and dismissed her case instantly. That she was a paid prostitute even helped most of you to nail the confirm. Some even blamed her for going willingly to his hotel room which is where my anger lies.

Because that's Wat the evidence suggests

Or are u that unintelligent not to see it.

U have evidence and yet u claim it's still rape, madame stop being emotional and start being rational abeg.

Madam was paid simple and short and no rape occurred!!!

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Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by Shortyy(f): 10:56am On Dec 19, 2020
BigBellyBurst:

When u people have decided to sell ur bodies, who will take y'all serious?

Every corner and crevice of this country is swarming with hoes. And see what ur here yapping.


What I'm "yapping" is why women should stop reducing themselves to absolutely nothing and be in charge of their lives.

Read before jumping into conclusions.
Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by Sixfeetbelle: 10:57am On Dec 19, 2020
RisenPhoenix1:


No. If he is accused of rape and it is proven beyond all possible doubt (as every conviction must be), then he absolutely should be held culpable. However, it should also be recognized that he is at a far higher risk; statistically speaking; of false rape accusations by unscrupulous gold diggers. Wealthy men are also subject to far more offers of consensual sex by these same set of women.
Therefore, any unsubstantiated rape accusation directed at such individuals must take into account the situation, circumstance and reputation of the accuser. This is to differentiate exhaustively between consensual sex and rape, and prevent any act of injustice. The only other alternative would be to believe every accusation of rape brought against men by a woman merely on her say so, which would be a gross injustice; since no study has proven that women are more believable than men in such situations. The fact that a man has wealth is not an excuse to disbelieve or oppress him either.

I like how you pointed out no one party in a rape charge should be entirely believed or disbelieved but it should interest you to know most men in this forum aren't if these thinking. In fact they never believe rape claims until there's complete, undeniable evidence. Even in the presence of that, some are still staunch in their unbelief

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Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by Sixfeetbelle: 11:00am On Dec 19, 2020
Tango123:


I never said girls get raped because theyrl monetised their pussy.

Read my post again and see what i was responding to.

I was responding to the below



You said it happens because of origins. Because of how ladies behave, because they have no substance. And, yes, in a way, it makes sense that guys may want revenge for being taken for a fool by what ladies do to them. But what about children? Are they anything like the ladies that they are being subjected to such depravity?
Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by Tango123: 11:02am On Dec 19, 2020
Sixfeetbelle:


I am fighting for justice which is why I didn't dismiss the singer's rape claim like most men here did. I try to empathize with the victim until it is disproved but in that story, most didn't even bother with her.

I know children can be raped, irrespective of gender and that's why I wondered why anyone could use excuse that women get raped because they monetise their pvssy as an excuse. That's the reason I asked that question. Children don't monetise their sexual organs et they still get raped so obviously rape has nothing to do with being a prostitute or not.

And again, ur bias comes out

You said you empathized with the victim.

This shows u already belived the woman is the victim and the man the bad one

What if the woman is the bad one and the man the victim. What if the man is being wrongly accused. Then he is the victim who needs ur empathy right now

Less than a year ago, there was d case of a doctor who was accused of rape by a woman. Initially, people like u believed d woman. When investigated by uk police, the man was cleared and the woman was found to have falsely accused man

Dont rush to side with one party. Dont call one of them victim until the case is investigated please biko mbok

If u have empathy to gove, give it to both parties until the case is investigated. Please. It could be ur son, ur brother, ur dad

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Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by Sixfeetbelle: 11:02am On Dec 19, 2020
demmymoney:


Because that's Wat the evidence suggests

Or are u that unintelligent not to see it.

U have evidence and yet u claim it's still rape, madame stop being emotional and start being rational abeg.

Madam was paid simple and short and no rape occurred!!!

How can a chat depict rape or no rape? How can credit alert depict rape or no rape?

I wanted logical people to reason with me on this thread. It seems you aren't one of them.
Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by BigBellyBurst(m): 11:02am On Dec 19, 2020
Shortyy:



What I'm "yapping" is why women should stop reducing themselves to absolutely nothing and be in charge of their lives.

Read before jumping into conclusions.

Your wasting ur time. Many ladies out there won't even give u a listening ear if u tell them this. The environment, society, economy and greed have turned lots of women into sex clowns.

And men ain't ruthless.
Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by Sixfeetbelle: 11:04am On Dec 19, 2020
Tango123:


And again, ur bias comes out

You said you empathized with the victim.

This shows u already belived the woman is the victim and the man the bad one

What if the woman is the bad one and the man the victim. What if the man is being wrongly accused. Then he is the victim who needs ur empathy right now

Less than a year ago, there was d case of a doctor who was accused of rape by a woman. Initially, people like u believed d woman. When investigated by uk police, the man was cleared and the woman was found to have falsely accused man

Dont rush to side with one party. Dont call one of them victim until the case is investigated please biko mbok

If u have empathy to gove, give it to both parties until the case is investigated. Please. It could be ur son, ur brother, ur dad

Okay. I'll give empathy to both. She may be a victim, she may be chasing clout. He may be the victim, he may be the villain. I'm standing on the maybes.

But those that didn't give empathy to the lady, nko? What say you?
Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by Tango123: 11:06am On Dec 19, 2020
Sixfeetbelle:


You said it happens because of origins. Because of how ladies behave, because they have no substance. And, yes, in a way, it makes sense that guys may want revenge for being taken for a fool by what ladies do to them. But what about children? Are they anything like the ladies that they are being subjected to such depravity?

Read the post inwas referring to. Dont quote me put of context

Rape is wrong no matter who does it and no matter the reason. Simple

But the woman i quoted was referring to how men treat women in general, outside of issues of sex. Thats how i understood what she said. And that was what i was referring to in my response.


As far as i am concerned, no justification for rape. It is evil. Wheter done by men or by women

Homosexual men rape men. Lesbians rape women. Men rape women. Women rape men. All of them is evil

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Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by khingTony(m): 11:08am On Dec 19, 2020
Sixfeetbelle:


I'm not saying he did or didn't. I'm neutral on this case. My question is: why you guys think he didn't?
the same reason you think he did
Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by demmymoney(m): 11:09am On Dec 19, 2020
Sixfeetbelle:


How can a chat depict rape or no rape? How can credit alert depict rape or no rape?

I wanted logical people to reason with me on this thread. It seems you aren't one of them.

U are very very stupid

So how does the chat and credit alerts not show that rape did occurred??

U are already biased towards the woman abeg just get the Bleep off joor mtscheww

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Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by Sixfeetbelle: 11:10am On Dec 19, 2020
demmymoney:


It's ur business if u think there's rape culture in Nigeria because it's still the same Nigeria that people are getting married every single weekend. If all men are rapist or most men are rapists at least we should be seeing a decline in the amount of people getting married every single weekend.

Anyways rape is like any other crime, it's not a bigger crime or a smaller crime, don't politicize it. Crime na crime, whether it's stealing, lying, rape, corruption etc.

U are getting emotionally attached to the issue

Women shaa

Ur emotions will always get the best out of una SMH!

What does rape have to do with marriage? Or don't you know some women hide their husbands atrocities under "good wife"? Rape doesn't prevent people from getting married.

I am not getting emotionally invested in this story as you stated. Rather, I want to understand the callousness of some human beings. Why does rape cause so much indifference in people?

I feel like the comments on that story would have been different if the lady wasn't a paid prostitute and that's where my concern lies. If it was a 15 year old girl, perhaps, would most of you have been so quick to dismiss her claims?

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Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by Sixfeetbelle: 11:11am On Dec 19, 2020
demmymoney:


U are very very stupid

So how does the chat and credit alerts not show that rape did occurred??

U are already biased towards the woman abeg just get the Bleep off joor mtscheww

Only emotional people will result to calling names as and whatnots when they don't get their way.

Have a wonderful weekend.

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Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by demmymoney(m): 11:12am On Dec 19, 2020
Sixfeetbelle:


What does rape have to do with marriage? Or don't you know some women hide their husbands atrocities under "good wife"? Rape doesn't prevent people from getting married.

I am not getting emotionally invested in this story as you stated. Rather, I want to understand the callousness of some human beings. Why does rape cause so much indifference in people?

I feel like the comments on that story would have been different if the lady wasn't a paid prostitute and that's where my concern lies. If it was a 15 year old girl, perhaps, would most of you have been so quick to dismiss her claims?

Forget it u already have an agenda and probably u are a hoe. Cos I don't know y u are so much emotionally invested in her false claims of rape.

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Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by Sixfeetbelle: 11:13am On Dec 19, 2020
khingTony:
the same reason you think he did

I don't think he did, not to her at least but I may not be surprised if he did to someone else.

But you all are certain he didn't rape her because she's a paid prostitute. That's my concern.
Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by Nobody: 11:13am On Dec 19, 2020
Sixfeetbelle:


I don't believe her but I also didn't dismiss her claims. That's what any normal human being should have done.

Most of you didn't investigate the story because it's a guy. You saw the chats and dismissed her case instantly. That she was a paid prostitute even helped most of you to nail the confirm. Some even blamed her for going willingly to his hotel room which is where my anger lies.

That she was a paid prostitute who accused him of rape only after she didn't get paid (after waiting for alert for 5 days) is what put the nail in the coffin. I also saw a chat where he supposedly put up a video of her playing and flirting with him, although I've not watched the video. Her crying on video 5 days after the event looked totally out of natural human behaviour.

Because she is not 6 years old, but a sexually experienced woman. She knew what the outcome of going to the hotel room might be, or at least the risk, yet she still went. That she claims to be drunk makes it all the worse. If you absolutely have to go alone to a man's room, why incapacitate your ability to defend yourself completely first?

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Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by Sixfeetbelle: 11:13am On Dec 19, 2020
Tango123:


Read the post inwas referring to. Dont quote me put of context

Rape is wrong no matter who does it and no matter the reason. Simple

But the woman i quoted was referring to how men treat women in general, outside of issues of sex. Thats how i understood what she said. And that was what i was referring to in my response.


As far as i am concerned, no justification for rape. It is evil. Wheter done by men or by women

Homosexual men rape men. Lesbians rape women. Men rape women. Women rape men. All of them is evil

Okay. I get you now
Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by demmymoney(m): 11:13am On Dec 19, 2020
Sixfeetbelle:


Only emotional people will result to calling names as and whatnots when they don't get their way.

Have a wonderful weekend.

Lol

U have evidence that there's no rape but in ur mind u want it to b rape by all means

Stupid feminist!!!

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Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by demmymoney(m): 11:15am On Dec 19, 2020
Sixfeetbelle:


I don't think he did, not to her at least but I may not be surprised if he did to someone else.

But you all are certain he didn't rape her because she's a paid prostitute. That's my concern.

Because she's a paid hoe that's y rape never occurred jeezzzz
Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by khingTony(m): 11:17am On Dec 19, 2020
Sixfeetbelle:


I don't think he did, not to her at least but I may not be surprised if he did to someone else.

But you all are certain he didn't rape her because she's a paid prostitute. That's my concern.
She didn't provide any evidence, she just wept on social media and that was it. No one will take her claims serious until she proves it.

Do you and other Nigerians take Nnamdi Kanu serious when he says that the man in aso rock is not Buhari? No, Why? Because he has no evidence to back up his claims.



Peace smiley

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Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by Nobody: 11:27am On Dec 19, 2020
Sixfeetbelle:


I like how you pointed out no one party in a rape charge should be entirely believed or disbelieved but it should interest you to know most men in this forum aren't if these thinking. In fact they never believe rape claims until there's complete, undeniable evidence. Even in the presence of that, some are still staunch in their unbelief

That is beside the point. Similarly, feminists believe that women should always be believed if there is a rape accusation. In order to avoid injustice, women being physically weaker, should just not put themselves in such positions. Men who disbelieve such accusations have far more reason to do so. She was in his room after all, and she was asking for money for services rendered with no initial hint that such service was coerced. In this case, it is you who are staunch in your unbelief even in the face of evidence to the contrary. Perhaps the same reasons why you still do not believe his own side can be equally applied to those men you refer to.

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Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by Sixfeetbelle: 11:28am On Dec 19, 2020
RisenPhoenix1:


That she was a paid prostitute who accused him of rape only after she didn't get paid (after waiting for alert for 5 days) is what put the nail in the coffin. I also saw a chat where he supposedly put up a video of her playing and flirting with him, although I've not watched the video. Her crying on video 5 days after the event looked totally out of natural human behaviour.

Because she is not 6 years old, but a sexually experienced woman. She knew what the outcome of going to the hotel room might be, or at least the risk, yet she still went. That she claims to be drunk makes it all the worse. If you absolutely have to go alone to a man's room, why incapacitate your ability to defend yourself completely first?

Can a sexually experienced woman still get raped. Yes or no? Does her being drunk mean she allowed it to happen? Going to a hotel doesn't mean rape was one of the outcomes she envisaged but yet, it seems you want to push it to the forefront here.


I don't understand why you have to state your last paragraph. The first one was fine on its own.

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Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by Sixfeetbelle: 11:31am On Dec 19, 2020
RisenPhoenix1:


That is beside the point. Similarly, feminists believe that women should always be believed if there is a rape accusation. In order to avoid injustice, women being physically weaker, should just not put themselves in such positions. Men who disbelieve such accusations have far more reason to do so. She was in his room after all, and she was asking for money for services rendered with no initial hint that such service was coerced. In this case, it is you who are staunch in your unbelief even in the face of evidence to the contrary. Perhaps the same reasons why you still do not believe his own side can be equally applied to those men you refer to.

I don't believe women are always the victim. I know some are the villians but I don't use profession to judge any case. The difference here is that they did. Repeatedly and it's worrisome.

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Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by Nobody: 11:31am On Dec 19, 2020
Sixfeetbelle:


Can a sexually experienced woman still get raped. Yes or no? Does her being drunk mean she allowed it to happen? Going to a hotel doesn't mean rape was one of the outcomes she envisaged but yet, it seems you want to push it to the forefront here.


I don't understand why you have to state your last paragraph. The first one was fine on its own.

Yes she can get raped. Her sexual experience is irrelevant in that sense.

I referred to her sexual experience only in the context of the fact that she would have had past sexual relationships and was aware of what men and women do in hotel rooms while drunk, so she should have been wary of that; not that she cannot get raped because she is sexually experienced. A sexually inexperienced woman mightvhave claimed ignorance, but not she.
Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by odinson1(m): 11:32am On Dec 19, 2020
khingTony:

She didn't provide any evidence, she just wept on social media and that was it. No one will take her claims serious until she proves it.

Do you and other Nigerians take Nnamdi Kanu serious when he says that the man in aso rock is not Buhari? No, Why? Because he has no evidence to back up his claims.



Peace smiley
Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by Sixfeetbelle: 11:34am On Dec 19, 2020
khingTony:

She didn't provide any evidence, she just wept on social media and that was it. No one will take her claims serious until she proves it.

Do you and other Nigerians take Nnamdi Kanu serious when he says that the man in aso rock is not Buhari? No, Why? Because he has no evidence to back up his claims.



Peace smiley

From the first time that story dropped, even before the guy came on to say his part, they didn't believe her. It was completely dismissed and it is worrisome.

Now that I've seen the guy's part, I'm skeptical about her story, but I wasn't from the first minute.

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Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by Sixfeetbelle: 11:37am On Dec 19, 2020
RisenPhoenix1:


Yes she can get raped. Her sexual experience is irrelevant in that sense.

I referred to her sexual experience only in the context of the fact that she would have had past sexual relationships and was aware of what men and women do in hotel rooms while drunk, so she should have been wary of that; not that she cannot get raped because she is sexually experienced. A sexually inexperienced woman mightvhave claimed ignorance, but not she.

So a prostitute can't claim rape and be believed?

Do bear in mind that some men lure prostitutes to their house or a hotel, use them/rape them and then discard them. Most don't say anything cause no one would believe them. Even if you want to argue she knew the risks involved, there's still that important fact: she was raped, payment or no payment.
Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by MedicH: 11:38am On Dec 19, 2020
Tango123:


Are u saying she should be believed and the man locked up, just based on her words alone

Y are u believeing her words and not the man's words

What if the man is truly innocent

U forget it could be ur son, ur brother ur dad

My point is that a rape accusation should be investigated. If true, the victim is punished. If false, the accuser is punished

Many women have falsely qccused men. Or do u want me to remind u of some high profilee ones?

Stop playing the gender card. Evil is evil irrespective of gender

Aswear bro u too get sense. I like your narrative. All these women of nowadays no go ever get sense.
Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by MedicH: 11:39am On Dec 19, 2020
Sixfeetbelle:


So a prostitute can't claim rape and be believed?

Do bear in mind that some men lure prostitutes to their house or a hotel, use them/rape them and then discard them. Most don't say anything cause no one would believe them. Even if you want to argue she knew the risks involved, there's still that important fact: she was raped, payment or no payment.


Some men lure rags into their closet, rape them, pay them, and throw them away. Then the rag figured out the money could have been more and she screams rape and threatens to commit suicide. Incredible.
Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by Shortyy(f): 11:43am On Dec 19, 2020
BigBellyBurst:

Your wasting ur time. Many ladies out there won't even give u a listening ear if u tell them this. The environment, society, economy and greed have turned lots of women into sex clowns.

And men ain't ruthless.

We shall see
Re: Rape Claim And The Nigerian Morality by Sixfeetbelle: 11:45am On Dec 19, 2020
MedicH:


Some men lure rags into their closet, rape them, pay them, and throw them away. Then the rag figured out the money could have been more and she screams rape and threatens to commit suicide. Incredible.

Exactly what I'm trying to point out.

As far as they aren't of high moral standing, they shouldn't be bothered about.

Gosh! I can't believe I share the same air with you lots.

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