Pymetrics:


Hasten to seek forgiveness for saying what you do not know. And the best forgiveness for you is to accept Islam and worship Allah, the only one that cannot be compared to trinity.

Pymetrics:

Allah was never a human being and will never be one. He is ever living, no one before him and no one after him. He is the sole administrator of universe, the one your brain can comprehend and the one you couldn't think of. He is mighty, Merciful, and also brutal in punishment.
As I said earlier, hasten to accept His guidance through the message of the last Prophet, Muhammad PBUH. You can whatsapp my signature if you are looking for a way to access this divine guidance brought by Prophet Muhammad PBUH.

gentleibraheem:


” There is no difference between Guru maraji of Lagos and Jesus christ of nazareth, our own Nigeria is even better that he was not a terrorist. ”

how does the Above statement sound??. i think its Intentionally inciting

EyezofGod120:
as if say he concern me,,if dem like make dem kill Mubarak na him problem b DAT,,,religion of piss

Pymetrics:

Allah was never a human being and will never be one. He is ever living, no one before him and no one after him. He is the sole administrator of universe, the one your brain can comprehend and the one you couldn't think of. He is mighty, Merciful, and also brutal in punishment.
As I said earlier, hasten to accept His guidance through the message of the last Prophet, Muhammad PBUH. You can whatsapp my signature if you are looking for a way to access this divine guidance brought by Prophet Muhammad PBUH.

Empiree:
It is not new for govt to lock up people unconstitutionally. This is not restricted to Nigeria only. It applies to western world too. So what the problem?.

I don't believe in locking up someone indefinitely without charge regardless of his crime. But it is govt practices around the world to lock up people for years without formal charge. But for Nigerians to start screaming "international human rights and international community" should involved is absurd. They do the same in their own countries. Let the so called international community resolves issues in their own countries first before poke-nosing others. Ask me for proofs and I will bring just 10 cases of Muslims locked up for years and decades without formal charges against them in western countries.

How about Gitmo?. There are Muslims locked up there without charge but you bigots turned blind eye. Is that constitutional?. If Bala did nothing or if govt has no case against him they need to let him go. Simple.

How about ikoyi prison?. Do you guys have idea what's going on there?. There are people in there already discharged legally but they are still held in prison because no one would come to bail them (egunje). But you guys focus on anything Islamic to make cheap point. Please go to ikoyi prison and you will see lots of innocent Muslims and nonmuslims there for years but they are already relieved of the charges brought against them but they are still not released. You all need to get a life and stop instigating hatred against religion.

Empiree:
It is not new for govt to lock up people unconstitutionally. This is not restricted to Nigeria only. It applies to western world too. So what the problem?.

I don't believe in locking up someone indefinitely without charge regardless of his crime. But it is govt practices around the world to lock up people for years without formal charge. But for Nigerians to start screaming "international human rights and international community" should involved is absurd. They do the same in their own countries. Let the so called international community resolves issues in their own countries first before poke-nosing others. Ask me for proofs and I will bring just 10 cases of Muslims locked up for years and decades without formal charges against them in western countries.

How about Gitmo?. There are Muslims locked up there without charge but you bigots turned blind eye. Is that constitutional?. If Bala did nothing or if govt has no case against him they need to let him go. Simple.

How about ikoyi prison?. Do you guys have idea what's going on there?. There are people in there already discharged legally but they are still held in prison because no one would come to bail them (egunje). But you guys focus on anything Islamic to make cheap point. Please go to ikoyi prison and you will see lots of innocent Muslims and nonmuslims there for years but they are already relieved of the charges brought against them but they are still not released. You all need to get a life and stop instigating hatred against religion.

AbdulSleeky:



The average christian will not kill you or arrest you for insulting Jesus. In secular countries, you cannot be arrested for criticising religion.

I am not a christian though. If you cannot control your anger when someone criticizes your religion, you are an animal

Empiree:
It is not new for govt to lock up people unconstitutionally. This is not restricted to Nigeria only. It applies to western world too. So what the problem?.

I don't believe in locking up someone indefinitely without charge regardless of his crime. But it is govt practices around the world to lock up people for years without formal charge. But for Nigerians to start screaming "international human rights and international community" should involved is absurd. They do the same in their own countries. Let the so called international community resolves issues in their own countries first before poke-nosing others. Ask me for proofs and I will bring just 10 cases of Muslims locked up for years and decades without formal charges against them in western countries.

How about Gitmo?. There are Muslims locked up there without charge but you bigots turned blind eye. Is that constitutional?. If Bala did nothing or if govt has no case against him they need to let him go. Simple.

How about ikoyi prison?. Do you guys have idea what's going on there?. There are people in there already discharged legally but they are still held in prison because no one would come to bail them (egunje). But you guys focus on anything Islamic to make cheap point. Please go to ikoyi prison and you will see lots of innocent Muslims and nonmuslims there for years but they are already relieved of the charges brought against them but they are still not released. You all need to get a life and stop instigating hatred against religion.

Superpower:
I can't believe a human being can be this foolish.

Agbegbaorogboye:


Oya show us the proofs

Empiree:
check out investigative journalist, Trevor Aaronson. He got details for you.


https://www.ted.com/talks/trevor_aaronson_how_this_fbi_strategy_is_actually_creating_us_based_terrorists/footnotes?referrer=playlist-insights_on_terrorism

Agbegbaorogboye:

There is nothing in that link that shows 10 Muslims locked up without trial in the US. If I missed it, pls highlight it.

AbdulSleeky:



The average christian will not kill you or arrest you for insulting Jesus. In secular countries, you cannot be arrested for criticising religion.

I am not a christian though. If you cannot control your anger when someone criticizes your religion, you are an animal

Agbegbaorogboye:

There is nothing in that link that shows 10 Muslims locked up without trial in the US. If I missed it, pls highlight it.

Empiree:
oh no. I actually decided to not type names for personal reason. I wanted to allow you to do your own research. I'm not gonna say anything about this. I am a living witness. But to start your research, that's why I gave you the name of the investigative journalist. I used to talk to him a decade ago.

It is clear to me that so many Nigerians are naive. You think western world is heaven where no mistakes in their legal process is made?. I will allow you to do your independent research instead of me giving you the info. Note that it is not only Muslims but many nonmuslims as well.

When you finally get to do your research on your own, whether or takes your 10 years or 10 days, make sure you return here to give testimonies.

You guys believe in mainstream media so much. You think mainstream media would expose govt all the time?. Go behind closed doors and you see so many dirty politics. I have posted a video of Nigeria Christian that was locked up in USA for a year and half without trial after serving 6 months for crime he committed (overstayed visa). You guys have lots to learn and I won't allow you to learn it from me. Go out and learn. Internet is there for a reason. Use it.

Even if you don't believe me when I said there are people locked up for years without trial, the video you watched you should give you a clue already. You heard what Trevor Aaronson said, isn't?.

If that's not enough for you please go and read his book titled (attachment). You will read all types of dirty things you never heard of. And check Mother Jones and ACLU

You guys have zero idea what's going on. Anyways let me just drop name of only ones case of a teenager arrested, detained and tortured without charges. His name is Gulet Mohamed,.

AbdulSleeky:




Please keep quiet.

People are complaining that islam/sharia is oppressing non muslims with this blasphemy lAw of a thing. Instead of you addressing the matter, you are pointing hands at USA detaining a Nigerian for 6 months.

Please, the Nigerian immigrant in question is a criminal. It is a criminal offense in any country to overstay Visa. The nigerian in question was tried before being deported.

Now compare this to an atheist who broke no laws but was arrested and not even given a trial. Nobody could even visit the atheist. No family or friends knew where he was.

what happened to Bala wouldnt have happened in the south.

Empiree:
keep repeating yourself live clock. Law is law. He violated the law and he was arrested. Period. If them born you well, go and deny Holocaust and you will see your butt jailed.

why didn't you complete the story?. The same way this one violated immigration law is the same way Bala violated blasphemy law. Every region has their own set of rules and must be obeyed and respected. Why are you twisting his story?. Yes he was tried and was given 6 months or less behind bars and released by order of judge. He was then rearrested and detained out of court order for no reason for 1 and half years. I guess it is easy for you to talk trash because you are not in his shoes. His detainment was illegal and unconstitutional. Didn't you listen to him?.



which atheist?.



we can argue forever and we aren't gonna agree with one another. They said the guy violated blasphemy law and he was arrested. There is no issue with this at all. Law is law. But what I am against is detainment without charges. And I said this is very common and I cited examples from western world that illegally detaining people is very common in other parts of the world, not only Nigeria. That's my point of argument.

I posted a link showing obama signed into law indefinite detention and I provided a name as example but you still arguing blindly. I repeat, indefinite detention is very common in many countries. Just pray you don't become victim. They will lock you up and throw away the key. So it is unfair to detain the guy in Kano without trial or charges. This is my point of argument. If they have noting against him they need to let him go. Stop acting as if illegal detention is only practiced in Nigeria.

AbdulSleeky:




You have nothing to say. Bala Mubarak is not a muslim and he cannot be tried under sharia law. He is under secular law in Nigeria.

You can lie and twist all you want but even your fellow muslims are against his arrest.

You are a disgrace. You can only talk like this because you are in backwards country.

Goto the usa or uk or any developed country and be saying that people should.be arrested for blasphemy. Just how they would treat you like the mental patient you are.

Empiree:
you guys think only in Nigeria they arrest and detain indefinitely?. This goes to show you are all ignorant.

Help yourself


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OojuwUEDuI

Superpower:
So because it happens in other places that means it's right.

Superpower:
So because it happens in other places that means it's right.

Empiree:
I may have mistaken Bala for someone else. My understanding is a guy was arrested for blasphemy in Kano and not Bala. Of course I heard about bala's case few years ago but I don't know details. Whatever it is, I was referring a guy arrested for blasphemy in Kano. It is state law. If you don't like the law or not comfortable with it, then don't violate the law..I don't know what's contained in the law about who can be or can not be prosecuted under the law.

My point is obey the law. Law is law. We have argued this before. In western some countries they have similar laws, the most famous is Holocaust law. Holocaust law is euphemism of saying blasphemy law.

They are very much aware of the consequences of saying blasphemy law. So they use Holocaust law which means it is taboo to deny Holocaust because Holocaust is sacred to them. There are 7 european countries and israel that have Holocaust legislation.

Why don't you have problems with this?. Why are you being hypocritical?. At least I know France and Germany have this Holocaust law. USA indirectly endorsed it but they shy away from openly supporting the Holocaust law because it is not in tandem with USA constitution.

So Kano state have blasphemy law. If you violate the law don't start screaming "persecution". No one persecutes you but you violate the law. Very simply.

What I am against is illegally detaining people or indefinite detention. It is not for you to condemn Kano blasphemy law. If you have problem with the law, simply challenge the law in court not nairaland.

This is not persecution of atheism. Stop bigotry and think rationally. Talking about USA, UK etc that you cited, you obviously are very naive. People get in trouble and get arrested for running their mouths for unprotected speeches. You think freedom is free?. Naa, bruv.

AbdulSleeky:

1. You claim that Bala was arrested under state law. False. He was arrested under sharia law. Northern states existed before sharia was implemented. They had secular laws first.

2. Secondly why did the state judge not find him guilty if he actually broke state law? Do you see how silly you are?

4. You were never against the illegal detention. You never addressed the matter until forced. You support the arrest and you were defending the detention by pointing out someone who was detained for 6 months in the usa.

Empiree:
Bala or no Bala, Shari'a Law was created by state. Shari'a Law runs parallel along customary law. Both are still operated by state. Therefore, Shari'a Law is state law. Whether you understand what I just said or not that's your problem.

Let me also clarify your other misconception. Shari'a Law a k a Penal Code preceded Kano State. Sharia Penal Code was always in place in Northern part of Nigeria since 1960 but it was redundant. Sharia Penal Code was created in Kano in 1960 but Kano state was created in 1967. So Shari'a is legal. Refer to the attachment below.

Sharia was not enforced until 1999. They probably wouldn't have implemented Sharia in 1999 if christians did not make effort to christianized Nigeria between 1990 and 2000. So it was Christians that pushed the North to pass Sharia Law to impede Christianity up North.

If Sharia Law is illegal, why did federal govt of Nigeria recognize it?. No law can run in Nigeria without approval of federal govt. Matter of fact, Sharia Law preceded current federal constitution.





He was tried under Sharia Penal Code runs by state. Sharia/Customary laws are state laws.




both of them violated the law of their respective countries. One was federal crime. The later was state crime.

AbdulSleeky:


Again, you must resort to lies and twisting

1. The penal code of Northern Nigeria 1963 is not sharia law. You are a liar and an ignorant person. The law copied some islamic jurispudence from Sudan but it is not sharia law as it incorporates customary laws and traditional marriages and rulings.

2. I repeat- Kano state had secular laws before sharia was implemented.

3. Bala was not found guilty by a state judge unlike your criminal immigrant from USA. Bala did not break state laws- SHARIA DOES NOT APPLY TO NON-MUSLIMS IN NIGERIA.

4. How is Southern Nigeria christianized? We had a muslim governor during military regime in Lagos as far back as early 90s. We have secular laws in the south. Yoruba muslims have never been marginalised from time in memorial. Why are you such a liar?

Empiree:
I think you are jumping from one issue to another all the time. It seems it is clear to you that Sharia law is legal but then you switched to "Sharia Law does not apply to nonmuslims in Nigeria". I have no details on Bala case. My understanding is he was a Muslim that become atheist. I don't know when he committed his crime whether before or after he became atheist.

Anything else you said is irrelevant. Sharia law is legal and recognized by federal govt of Nigeria. If you have issues with this please go to the North and challenge it not on nairaland. You understand?

AbdulSleeky:



Bala was an atheist for 2 years plus before his arrest. He was even the president of the humanist society.

That you did not know this and you were commenting on ignorance just highlights your foolishness