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Muslims & Christmas/new Year by Techreliance(m): 10:10am On Dec 24, 2020
All praise is due to Allah, and may His peace and benediction be upon His Messenger.

To start with, it is pertinent to ask: What concerns a Muslim with Christmas or where lies their nexus?

If celebration of mawlid-nabiyy is considered bid'ah - a reprehensible innovation which is not permissible in Islam, how much more the celebration of other innovated festivities found in other religions.

Historically, Christmas wasn't known to the early Christians (please do your research), it's rather a fabricated practice in the Christendom. Based on this fact, some Christian sects openly condemn Christmas & New Year celebrations in strong terms believing that the duo originated from pagan background. The celebration of Christmas is a grave evil on two major accounts:

1. Those who celebrate Christmas say "Jesus is Lord (God)", and some others believe "Jesus is Son of God". In essence, this means they are celebrating the birthday of God or God's Son.

As for the Muslims; believing that God was born or gave birth to a son is blasphemy. As Qur'an 112:1,3 clearly states:

قُلْ هُوَ ٱللَّهُ أَحَدٌ … لَمْ يَلِدْ وَلَمْ يُولَدْ
"Say (O Muhammad): "He is Allah, (the) One…He begets not, nor was He begotten…"

2. Secondly, Christmas celebration is intrinsically based upon falsehood. There isn't any established proof that Jesus Christ (peace be upon him) was born on the 25th of December (you can ask the pastors about this). This is similar to those who celebrate Prophet Muhammad's birthday (peace and blessings be upon him) among the Muslims - they equally lack any justification for such practice. In fact, his actual birth-date remains unknown in history.

So, why would people be celebrating a false birthday of their God or acclaimed Son Of God?

Therefore, celebrating Christmas or New Year and accepting gifts pertaining to these festive periods are prohibited in Islam on account of the following evidences:

1. Celebration of festivals is a religious rite. It indicates the religion a person belongs. Muslims must dissociate themselves absolutely from all religious worships and celebrations outside Islam. This is why Allah instructed His Messenger (Muhammad) to tell the disbelievers:

لَكُمْ دِينُكُمْ وَلِىَ دِينِ
"To you be your religion, and to me my religion (Islam)." [Qur'an 109:6]

2. A fundamental principle in declaring haram and halal is contained in Surah Maa'idah verse 2:

وَتَعَاوَنُوا۟ عَلَى ٱلْبِرِّ وَٱلتَّقْوَىٰ ۖ وَلَا تَعَاوَنُوا۟ عَلَى ٱلْإِثْمِ وَٱلْعُدْوَٰنِ ۚ
"Help you one another in virtue, righteousness and piety; but do not help one another in sin and transgression."

If giving or accepting Christmas/New Year gifts apparently implies one's approval of pagan festivals, what about celebrating with them, attending their parties and exchanging such greetings.

3. Another strong evidence which should deter Muslims from anti-Islamic symbols is the hadith which says:

“Whoever imitates a people is one of them.” [Narrated by Abu Dawood (4031) classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Irwa’ al-Ghaleel (5/109).]

No true Muslim will like to be raised among the non-Muslims in the Hereafter. This is why we need to be more conscious and very careful, as Allah warned: "Never will the Jews nor the Christians be pleased with you until you follow their religion." (Qur'an 2:120)

إِنَّ فِى ذَٰلِكَ لَذِكْرَىٰ لِمَن كَانَ لَهُۥ قَلْبٌ أَوْ أَلْقَى ٱلسَّمْعَ وَهُوَ شَهِيدٌ
"Verily, therein is indeed a reminder for him who has a heart or gives ear while he is heedful." (Qur'an 50:37)

Simply and humbly tell your Christian neighbour, relatives, co-worker: “I am a Muslim and my religion doesn't permit me to celebrate or accept gifts associated with un-Islamic festivals. There are Christians who boldly reject Sallah meat unapologetically and no reasonable Muslim should pick offense or disappointment at that. They won't crucify you too for this sincere and honourable rejection, it's just a matter of mutual understanding and respect. And Allah's aid is sought.

*May peace be upon those who follow the guidance!*



By: _Abu Mar'yam Hanafi Abdulkadri_

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Re: Muslims & Christmas/new Year by advocatejare(m): 7:19pm On Dec 24, 2020
Techreliance:


If celebration of mawlid-nabiyy is considered bid'ah - a reprehensible innovation which is not permissible in Islam
So you're more Muslim than Muslims that
celebrate the birthday of Muhammad( Maulid Nabiyy) on the twelfth day of the month of Rabiulawal, the third month of the Muslim calendar, even though no one knows the exact day Muhammad was born?


Historically, Christmas wasn't known to the early Christians (please do your research), it's rather a fabricated practice in the Christendom. Based on this fact, some Christian sects openly condemn Christmas & New Year celebrations in strong terms believing that the duo originated from pagan background.
Allah is a pagan moon god yet to worship and bow down to him, The Star and the crescent moon on your mosques is of pagan origin yet you never condemn it, kissing Blackstone is of pagan origin, yet you never condemn it. Going for hajj and doing tawaf is of pagan origin yet you do it today. Praying 5 daily prayers is from Zoroastrians yet you do it today, fasting in the month of Ramadan is of pagan origin yet you do it today. Why can't you focus on the paganism that you call religion?
Re: Muslims & Christmas/new Year by Techreliance(m): 9:02pm On Dec 24, 2020
advocatejare:

So you're more Muslim than Muslims that
celebrate the birthday of Muhammad( Maulid Nabiyy) on the twelfth day of the month of Rabiulawal, the third month of the Muslim calendar, even though no one knows the exact day Muhammad was born?



Allah is a pagan moon god yet to worship and bow down to him, The Star and the crescent moon on your mosques is of pagan origin yet you never condemn it, kissing Blackstone is of pagan origin, yet you never condemn it. Going for hajj and doing tawaf is of pagan origin yet you do it today. Praying 5 daily prayers is from Zoroastrians yet you do it today, fasting in the month of Ramadan is of pagan origin yet you do it today. Why can't you focus on the paganism that you call religion?



You are more of ignoramus to me and why on earth should I be wrestling with a pig like you.
Moreover  I don't want know if u're doing this ur gimcrackery out of hatred towards Islam or ignorantly but I pray may Allah never guild u until u're dead, u this bloody kaafir.
Re: Muslims & Christmas/new Year by advocatejare(m): 9:08pm On Dec 24, 2020
Techreliance:




You are more of ignoramus to me and why on earth should I be wrestling with a pig like you.
Moreover  I don't want know if u're doing this ur gimcrackery out of hatred towards Islam or ignorantly but I pray may Allah never guild u until u're dead, u this bloody kaafir.


Whoever Allah guides is doomed forever.

And his sole purpose is the purpose of the devil to put people in hell. Allah is the devil

وَلَوْ شِئْنَا لَءَاتَيْنَا كُلَّ نَفْسٍ هُدٰىهَا وَلٰكِنْ حَقَّ الْقَوْلُ مِنِّى لَأَمْلَأَنَّ جَهَنَّمَ مِنَ الْجِنَّةِ وَالنَّاسِ أَجْمَعِينَ
"And if We had willed, We could have given every soul its guidance, but the word from Me will come into effect [that] I will surely fill Hell with jinn and people all together."
(QS. As-Sajda 32: Verse 13)


What's the difference between Allah and Satan if both of them lead people astray:

أَلَمْ تَرَ إِلَى الَّذِينَ يَزْعُمُونَ أَنَّهُمْ ءَامَنُوا بِمَآ أُنْزِلَ إِلَيْكَ وَمَآ أُنْزِلَ مِنْ قَبْلِكَ يُرِيدُونَ أَنْ يَتَحَاكَمُوٓا إِلَى الطّٰغُوتِ وَقَدْ أُمِرُوٓا أَنْ يَكْفُرُوا بِهِۦ وَيُرِيدُ الشَّيْطٰنُ أَنْ يُضِلَّهُمْ ضَلٰلًۢا بَعِيدًا
"Have you not seen those who claim to have believed in what was revealed to you, [O Muhammad], and what was revealed before you? They wish to refer legislation to Taghut, while they were commanded to reject it; and Satan wishes to lead them far astray."
(QS. An-Nisaa 4: Verse 60)


مَنْ يُضْلِلِ اللَّهُ فَلَا هَادِىَ لَهُۥ  ۚ وَيَذَرُهُمْ فِى طُغْيٰنِهِمْ يَعْمَهُونَ
"Whoever Allah sends astray - there is no guide for him. And He leaves them in their transgression, wandering blindly."
(QS. Al-A'raaf 7: Verse 186
Re: Muslims & Christmas/new Year by AntiChristian: 7:44am On Dec 25, 2020
advocatejare:

Whoever Allah guides is doomed forever.

And his sole purpose is the purpose of the devil to put people in hell. Allah is the devil

وَلَوْ شِئْنَا لَءَاتَيْنَا كُلَّ نَفْسٍ هُدٰىهَا وَلٰكِنْ حَقَّ الْقَوْلُ مِنِّى لَأَمْلَأَنَّ جَهَنَّمَ مِنَ الْجِنَّةِ وَالنَّاسِ أَجْمَعِينَ
"And if We had willed, We could have given every soul its guidance, but the word from Me will come into effect [that] I will surely fill Hell with jinn and people all together."
(QS. As-Sajda 32: Verse 13)


What's the difference between Allah and Satan if both of them lead people astray:

أَلَمْ تَرَ إِلَى الَّذِينَ يَزْعُمُونَ أَنَّهُمْ ءَامَنُوا بِمَآ أُنْزِلَ إِلَيْكَ وَمَآ أُنْزِلَ مِنْ قَبْلِكَ يُرِيدُونَ أَنْ يَتَحَاكَمُوٓا إِلَى الطّٰغُوتِ وَقَدْ أُمِرُوٓا أَنْ يَكْفُرُوا بِهِۦ وَيُرِيدُ الشَّيْطٰنُ أَنْ يُضِلَّهُمْ ضَلٰلًۢا بَعِيدًا
"Have you not seen those who claim to have believed in what was revealed to you, [O Muhammad], and what was revealed before you? They wish to refer legislation to Taghut, while they were commanded to reject it; and Satan wishes to lead them far astray."
(QS. An-Nisaa 4: Verse 60)


مَنْ يُضْلِلِ اللَّهُ فَلَا هَادِىَ لَهُۥ  ۚ وَيَذَرُهُمْ فِى طُغْيٰنِهِمْ يَعْمَهُونَ
"Whoever Allah sends astray - there is no guide for him. And He leaves them in their transgression, wandering blindly."
(QS. Al-A'raaf 7: Verse 186

Everything happens by the will of Allah.

Your God has the power to do all things right? So why wasn't Jesus able to convert everybody to christianity before he died?


In your Bible, the story of Job, Satan received God's permission to destroy his family and properties.

Is God working together with the devil in this case too?

Topic
is your Lord a devil too

Jeremiah 4:10
Then I said, "Ah, Sovereign LORD, how completely you have deceived (nasha) this people and Jerusalem by saying, 'You will have peace,' when the sword is at our throats."

We have it in...

1 Kings 22:20-22
And the LORD said, 'Who will entice Ahab into attacking Ramoth Gilead and going to his death there?'
"One suggested this, and another that. 21 Finally, a spirit came forward, stood before the LORD and said, 'I will entice him.'
" 'By what means?' the LORD asked.
" 'I will go out and be a lying spirit in the mouths of all his prophets,' he said.
" 'You will succeed in enticing him,' said the LORD. 'Go and do it.'

Here we see that the man said that he would resort to lying in order to entice Ahab and God supported the idea and told him to go ahead and do it!

We even have it in...

Ezekiel 14:9-11
" 'And if the prophet is enticed to utter a prophecy, I the LORD have enticed that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand against him and destroy him from among my people Israel. 10 They will bear their guilt-the prophet will be as guilty as the one who consults him. 11 Then the people of Israel will no longer stray from me, nor will they defile themselves anymore with all their sins. They will be my people, and I will be their God, declares the Sovereign LORD.' "

God is punishing him for a crime that He enticed him to do in the first place? Isn't that entrapment?

Another passage...

Isaiah 37:6-7
Isaiah said to them, "Tell your master, 'This is what the LORD says: Do not be afraid of what you have heard-those words with which the underlings of the king of Assyria have blasphemed me. Listen! I am going to put a spirit in him so that when he hears a certain report, he will return to his own country, and there I will have him cut down with the sword.'

God had that spirit spread a rumor so that the King of Assyria can to return to his homeland. In short, that spirit's purpose was for deception.

Another example from the Bible...

Isaiah 19:14
The LORD has poured into them a spirit of dizziness; they make Egypt stagger in all that she does, as a drunkard staggers around in his vomit.

Here we see God deceiving people to the extent that they become absolutely foolish.

Even though I don't believe the Gospels teach that Jesus taught he was God, however this example is for those who believe that Jesus is God. Jesus admits that he was speaking figuratively all this time...

John 16:25
"Though I have been speaking figuratively (paroimia), a time is coming when I will no longer use this kind of language but will tell you plainly about my Father.

Why wasn't Jesus speaking in a normal and clear way all the time? Why did Jesus then go and say that he won't 'use this kind of language'?

Well, here we find out why...

Mark 4:10-12
When he was alone, the Twelve and the others around him asked him about the parables. 11He told them, "The secret of the kingdom of God has been given to you. But to those on the outside everything is said in parables 12so that," 'they may be ever seeing but never perceiving, and ever hearing but never understanding; otherwise they might turn and be forgiven!'

So here we see that Jesus was deceiving certain people by speaking in parables so that they won't (and God forbid!) REPENT AND BE FORGIVEN!

Also in...

2 Thessalonians 2:11
For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie.

So God will delude people so that they can believe lies?
Re: Muslims & Christmas/new Year by advocatejare(m): 8:15am On Dec 25, 2020
AntiChristian:


Everything happens by the will of Allah.
That's not what Allah said, allah said he leads people astray just like the devil, allah is the devil.

Your God has the power to do all things right? So why wasn't Jesus able to convert everybody to christianity before he died?
God didn't create humans like zombies, he gives us freewill, choose whatever you and enjoy the consequences of your actions.

But unlike Allah, the real God Yahweh who doesn't want people to perish, implored people to choose life instead of death


In your Bible, the story of Job, Satan received God's permission to destroy his family and properties.

Is God working together with the devil in this case too?
That was Job's trial and that's to tell you that all powers and Principalities must bow down to God. God knew that Job was a righteous man who wouldn't forsake him because of tribulations and Job proved that right.


Jeremiah 4:10
Then I said, "Ah, Sovereign LORD, how completely you have deceived (nasha) this people and Jerusalem by saying, 'You will have peace,' when the sword is at our throats."
God didn't promise Jerusalem of unconditional peace, he promised to keep them safe and secure as long as they serve only him, desist from sins and stay away from idols. When Israel failed in their part, they got the consequences. God destroyed other people because of sins, he wouldn't tolerate sins from Israel, so there's no deceit there


1 Kings 22:20-22
And the LORD said, 'Who will entice Ahab into attacking Ramoth Gilead and going to his death there?'
"One suggested this, and another that. 21 Finally, a spirit came forward, stood before the LORD and said, 'I will entice him.'
" 'By what means?' the LORD asked.
" 'I will go out and be a lying spirit in the mouths of all his prophets,' he said.
" 'You will succeed in enticing him,' said the LORD. 'Go and do it.'

He's the God of host, both demons and angels obey his command and if after warning a people to desist from their sinful ways and they refuse he can use anything to destroy them




Ezekiel 14:9-11
" 'And if the prophet is enticed to utter a prophecy, I the LORD have enticed that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand against him and destroy him from among my people Israel. 10 They will bear their guilt-the prophet will be as guilty as the one who consults him. 11 Then the people of Israel will no longer stray from me, nor will they defile themselves anymore with all their sins. They will be my people, and I will be their God, declares the Sovereign LORD.' "
Read the proceeding verse
Ezek.14.6 - "Therefore say to the house of Israel, 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: Repent! Turn from your idols and renounce all your detestable practices!

God had warned them here before saying they will be destroyed if they don't repent of their sins and idolatry but Allah is the one that leads people astray.

Quran 7:178
He whom Allah leadeth, he indeed is led aright, while he whom Allah sendeth astray - they indeed are losers.



Yahweh didn't boast like Allah the devil boasts that he will hell with humans.


وَلَوْ شِئْنَا لَءَاتَيْنَا كُلَّ نَفْسٍ هُدٰىهَا وَلٰكِنْ حَقَّ الْقَوْلُ مِنِّى لَأَمْلَأَنَّ جَهَنَّمَ مِنَ الْجِنَّةِ وَالنَّاسِ أَجْمَعِينَ
"And if We had willed, We could have given every soul its guidance, but the word from Me will come into effect [that] I will surely fill Hell with jinn and people all together."
(QS. As-Sajda 32: Verse 13)



Allah calls himself the best of the deceivers, the title of Satan, Allah is Satan:

Allah is the deceiver, the best of deceivers for that matter


Quran 8:30
wa-idh yamkuru bika alladhīna kafarū liyuth'bitūka aw yaqtulūka aw yukh'rijūka wayamkurūna wayamkuru l-lahu wal-lahu khayru l-mākirīna

And when those who disbelieved deceive/scheme at you to affix/affirm you, or kill you, or bring you out, and they scheme/deceive , and Allah deceives/schemes and Allah (is) best (of) the deceivers/schemers


Makrina is from (مَكْر [makr] ) which means cunning, deceptive, guile.

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