petra1:


Are you a Christian? Why will you condemn the teachings of Peter ,James and Paul who were Christ apostles. Or you just condemn any evidence contrary to this personal view of yours

The new testament are not scriptures, they were created by the romans to make mockery of God. Jesus is a roman creation..
The jews worship the creator of the universe. Everything he created is subject to him. Time after time they told you that God is not a man or human being..

The messiah God promised them is a man from the tribe of judah, he will have a father and mother who are both jews. Spirits dont father children..it is impossible. A woman needs the sperm from a man to fertilize her eggs before she becomes pregnant.

Jesus or his disciples are useless to God and to man...

Kobojunkie:
So according to your version of what happened, God destroyed the earth If the "contaminated" leaving Noah's family who according to you were of our breed. So how then did the demons come back, after the flood, contaminate the pool again, on a wide-scale, as claimed by you?

Ofcourse a similar thing happened and they polluted the world again .

Genesis 6:4
. . .There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men . . .,

The first invasion were destroyed by flood because they overpowered real humans. But the second invasion were destroyed by God's people. Thats is why people couldn't understand why a loving God will order Israel to kill a nation ,massacre women ,children , it looks barbaric but it was a spiritual riddance.

Moses killed race of giants ,Abraham did Joshua did ,David did. Not all these hybrid look big like giants but its in their blood

petra1:

Ofcourse a similar thing happened and they polluted the world again .

What? :
Please explain!

Kobojunkie:
What? :
Please explain!

I responded before your post

petra1:

Ofcourse a similar thing happened and they polluted the world again .

Genesis 6:4
. . .There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men . . .,

The first invasion were destroyed by flood because they overpowered real humans. But the second invasion were destroyed by God's people. Thats is why people couldn't understand why a loving God will order Israel to kill a nation ,massacre women ,children , it looks barbaric but it was a spiritual riddance.

Moses killed race of giants ,Abraham did Joshua did ,David did. Not all these hybrid look big like giants but its in their blood

What?

According to you, God failed in His attempt to rid the world of the "hybrid" race when He sent the flood, leaving alive only Noah's family, whom you claim was of pure breed. As told by you, somehow the same Angels, locked away in prison from the time of the flood, escaped, once again "contaminating" the human gene pool, only this time, God uses Israel to destroy them?

So God is basically a powerless figurehead in all of this? He exists at the mercy of these gene-pool-contaminators?
And even after Moses and the israelites supposedly destroyed a race of them, they persisted since God also had David kill of the giants of this race you speak of, am I right?
From what you claim, it seems the human gene-pool remains contaminated ...or how sure are we that they were ever completely annihilated at any point in the past?
If that be the case, would that not make your pastor there crazy for suggesting "hybrid men are coming" when they have always been here amongst us from even the time of Noah?

Christians will never stop astonishing me with their bull shit ideologies...

Kobojunkie:
What?

According to you, God failed in His attempt to rid the world of the "hybrid" race when He sent the flood, leaving alive only Noah's family, whom you claim was of pure breed

. As told by you, somehow the same Angels, locked away in prison from the time of the flood, escaped, once again "contaminating" the human gene pool, only this time, God uses Israel to destroy them?

I didn't say same set of fallen angels . That's your conclusion . The details of the second invasion wasn't given

So God is basically a powerless figurehead in all of this? He exists at the mercy of these gene-pool-contaminators?

Man is the custodian of earth . If we don't do something about it . It will be overan. Shey we are preaching against morderna vaccine now and people are mocking just as the mocked Noah until pandemic of hybrid overan that world

From what you claim, it seems the human gene-pool remains contaminated ...or how sure are we that they were ever completely annihilated at any point in the past?

The contaminated race had characteristics . Violence ,rape ,idolatry etc. Thats why God gave law that anyone who manifests such should be killed . Because at that time the way to get rid of demons is to kill its host .

They had sex with children ,with animals, with relatives, with father ,with mother etc .

Lev 18:21 — Lev 18:30
And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD. Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion. Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you: And the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it, and the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants. Ye shall therefore keep my statutes and my judgments, and shall not commit any of these abominations; neither any of your own nation, nor any stranger that sojourneth among you: (For all these abominations have the men of the land done, which were before you, and the land is defiled That the land spue not you out also, when ye defile it, as it spued out the nations that were before you. For whosoever shall commit any of these abominations, even the souls that commit them shall be cut off from among their people.

petra1:


I didn't say same set of fallen angels . That's your conclusion . The details of the second invasion wasn't given

Man is the custodian of earth . If we don't do something about it . It will be overan. Shey we are preaching against morderna vaccine now and people are mocking just as the mocked Noah until pandemic of hybrid overan that world

The contaminated race had characteristics . Violence ,rape ,idolatry etc. Thats why God gave law that anyone who manifests such should be killed . Because at that time the way to get rid of demons is to kill its host .

They had sex with children ,with animals, with relatives, with father ,with mother etc .

Lev 18:21 — Lev 18:30
And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD. Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion. Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you: And the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it, and the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants. Ye shall therefore keep my statutes and my judgments, and shall not commit any of these abominations; neither any of your own nation, nor any stranger that sojourneth among you: (For all these abominations have the men of the land done, which were before you, and the land is defiled That the land spue not you out also, when ye defile it, as it spued out the nations that were before you. For whosoever shall commit any of these abominations, even the souls that commit them shall be cut off from among their people.

You realize that you did not provide even a single conclusive response to any of my queries?

Kobojunkie:
What?

According to you, God failed in His attempt to rid the world of the "hybrid" race when He sent the flood, leaving alive only Noah's family, whom you claim was of pure breed. As told by you, somehow the same Angels, locked away in prison from the time of the flood, escaped, once again "contaminating" the human gene pool, only this time, God uses Israel to destroy them?

So God is basically a powerless figurehead in all of this? He exists at the mercy of these gene-pool-contaminators?
And even after Moses and the israelites supposedly destroyed a race of them, they persisted since God also had David kill of the giants of this race you speak of, am I right?
From what you claim, it seems the human gene-pool remains contaminated ...or how sure are we that they were ever completely annihilated at any point in the past?
If that be the case, would that not make your pastor there crazy for suggesting "hybrid men are coming" when they have always been here amongst us from even the time of Noah?

More questions...


You say now that God made man custodian of earth, but earlier you said that God stepped in to destroy the contaminating race but failed.

A second invasion is never started to have in fact ever happened but you and your pastor have conveniently added on in your book to fit your narrative so let's run with that for a bit longer. You say that the second invasion was not of the same set of fallen angels as the first, meaning God again, failed to keep his angels in check even after the first claimed debacle. By the way, how many more invasions of the sort has there been?

You also claim that the contaminated race had characteristics and going by your list there, one could almost claim that even Cain, the son of Adam and Eve belonged to tha race. That aside, if what God demanded was that the people of Israel purge the earth of those who are of this characteristics you claim, why did God not then lead them on a campaign around the world doing just that? Why did He restrict them to the land of Canaan and enemies who came invading it's borders?

Kobojunkie:
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You say now that God made man custodian of earth, but earlier you said that God stepped in to destroy the contaminating race but failed.

He eliminated them successfully. You are the one who kept saying he failed

A second invasion is never started to have in fact ever happened but you and your pastor have conveniently added on in your book to fit your narrative so let's run with that for a bit longer.

The bible says so . At least two invasions were mentioned

Genesis 6:4 amplified
There were giants on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God lived with the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.

Genesis 6:4
In those days, and for some time after, giant Nephilites lived on the earth, for whenever the sons of God had intercourse with women, they gave birth to children who became the heroes and famous warriors of ancient times.

Historic evidence also shows that there was re-emergence.
Thirdly God is not incharge of fallen angels .. satan is responsible . The bible even foretold of two major battles coming in future . Between forces of light and darkness. Battle of Armageddon and the final battle of Gog and Maggog.

So God is not controlling things . Is is the prayer of the church that is restraining evil on the earth

You say that the second invasion was not of the same set of fallen angels as the first, meaning God again, failed to keep his angels in check even after the first claimed debacle.

Satan is the God of the world system. Our intercession only resist him

By the way, how many more invasions of the sort has there been?

The book of Daniel even mentions many rebellion against God to the extent they will shoot down or capture God's angels. There will be many demonic activities in the last days

You also claim that the contaminated race had characteristics and going by your list there, one could almost claim that even Cain, the son of Adam and Eve belonged to tha race

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Definitely he was demonized

1 John 3:12
Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.

That aside, if what God demanded was that the people of Israel purge the earth of those who are of this characteristics you claim, why did God not then lead them on a campaign around the world doing just that? Why did He restrict them to the land of Canaan and enemies who came invading it's borders?

He chose a nation to interact with earth as a point of contact to other nations.

Genesis 22:18
And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed

God fulfilled that in the Gospel

Acts 26:18
To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.

petra1:


He wasn't doing a commentary on matt 24.
He only picked the verse that related to.his topic

it was not in anyway related to the topic he shouldn't have

Its not.about listening . The preaching of Noah lasted hundreds of years . Thats enough . The pandemic of hybrid overran human race . The was no more pure breed on the earth . They contaminate each other through sex. Only the family of Noah was pure breed. And if God didn't do anything. Noah family may get contaminated who knows . If that happened there won't be salvation for man again. Jesus would no longer have a channel to have come . So God had to destroy the whole of human race to preserve that line

opinions opinions

Funny enough the demons invaded the earth again after the flood. And the earth was flooded with giants like Goliath. But they were killed by Giant hunters

and natural selection too?

petra1:

He eliminated them successfully. You are the one who kept saying he failed

The bible says so . At least two invasions were mentioned

Genesis 6:4 amplified
There were giants on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God lived with the daughters of men, and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.

Genesis 6:4
In those days, and for some time after, giant Nephilites lived on the earth, for whenever the sons of God had intercourse with women, they gave birth to children who became the heroes and famous warriors of ancient times.

Historic evidence also shows that there was re-emergence.
Thirdly God is not incharge of fallen angels .. satan is responsible . The bible even foretold of two major battles coming in future . Between forces of light and darkness. Battle of Armageddon and the final battle of Gog and Maggog.

So God is not controlling things . Is is the prayer of the church that is restraining evil on the earth



Satan is the God of the world system. Our intercession only resist him



The book of Daniel even mentions many rebellion against God to the extent they will shoot down or capture God's angels. There will be many demonic activities in the last days

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Definitely he was demonized

1 John 3:12
Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.



He chose a nation to interact with earth as a point of contact to other nations.

Genesis 22:18
And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed

God fulfilled that in the Gospel

Acts 26:18
To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.

You are the one who started that God in fact failed. He destroyed the earth with a flood in order to curb the invasion, yet it continued even after the flood. That means God's plan failed.

As for the rest, honestly, I think at this point, you are writing your own Bible as much of the claims you make are not found in the current one. And your stories do not even line up with the alternate story told in both the book of Enoch and the Book of Jasher combined.

Kobojunkie:

You are the one who started that God in fact failed. He destroyed the earth with a flood in order to curb the invasion, yet it continued even after the flood. That means God's plan failed.

You are the one who said so . Everyone knows God plan worked . He successfully preserved the pure family of Noah . So that Jesus can have a lije to come . I dont know what your issue is about God failing .

The fact that satan tried another invasion didn't mean God fail . He still used his chosen people and others to destroy them

petra1:

You are the one who said so . Everyone knows God plan worked . He successfully preserved the pure family of Noah . So that Jesus can have a lije to come . I dont know what your issue is about God failing .

The fact that satan tried another invasion didn't mean God fail . He still used his chosen people and others to destroy them

You claimed in a previous comment that God's intent on for wiping the earth with a flood was to rid it of the contamination. Leading me to indeed believe that God's intention was close to what was at least stated in the Bible.

But now you suggest that instead God's intention was to keep Noah's family pure o that Jesus Christ could be born free of the contamination, meaning the rest of us who did not come from the same line are probably already hybrids then, so why is your pastfallingallingg about crying "hybrid men are coming" when they have been here since the beginning?

Kobojunkie:
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But now you suggest that instead God's intention was to keep Noah's family pure o that Jesus Christ could be born free of the contamination,

You still don't get it. Jesus could not have come contaminated. If Noah family get overan . Man would doomed. There would never be salvation . Jesus would never be born . The way of the messiah would have ended . Salvation is not for mix breed nor angels .

Every human right now is pure breed as human . Thats why they have hope of salvation by the preaching of the Gospel. But the Bible foretold the enemy is planning raising an army in the last days for the great battle. But put a mandatory mark of every human being and every one who receivee that mark will never be saved and bible scholars over 30 years have predicted the mark is going to be a form of computer chip. The bible day without the mark you can't buy or sell . And those who rejected the mark will be enemies of the state ,to be hunted and tortured or killed.

The new RNA/DNA vaccine fulfill that part. Humans will be enhanced . It will give everyone serial number. They won't be pure breed anymore . The devil is raising his army You can't travel or make transaction if you don't have vaccine passport. . His system is called. Gradualism .

They've tried to cline human many times . They have successfully cloned animals .
They've been talking about transhumanism for years . They created a covid 19 lie to succumb the entire world through fear into thier plan. . Isolations centers were fake . The moment Dr Stella claimed covid 19 has cheap cure . They emptied all isolation centre's knowing plan don scatter. Kogi state never had lock down. No dead body on the road. . Not that it looks as though trump may not come back they revived the fear .

petra1:

You still don't get it. Jesus could not have come contaminated. If Noah family get overan . Man would doomed. There would never be salvation . Jesus would never be born . The way of the messiah would have ended . Salvation is not for mix breed nor angels .

Every human right now is pure breed as human . Thats why they have hope of salvation by the preaching of the Gospel. But the Bible foretold the enemy is planning raising an army in the last days for the great battle. But put a mandatory mark of every human being and every one who receivee that mark will never be saved and bible scholars over 30 years have predicted the mark is going to be a form of computer chip. The bible day without the mark you can't buy or sell . And those who rejected the mark will be enemies of the state ,to be hunted and tortured or killed.

The new RNA/DNA vaccine fulfill that part. Humans will be enhanced . It will give everyone serial number. They won't be pure breed anymore . The devil is raising his army You can't travel or make transaction if you don't have vaccine passport. . His system is called. Gradualism .

They've tried to cline human many times . They have successfully cloned animals .
They've been talking about transhumanism for years . They created a covid 19 lie to succumb the entire world through fear into thier plan. . Isolations centers were fake . The moment Dr Stella claimed covid 19 has cheap cure . They emptied all isolation centre's knowing plan don scatter. Kogi state never had lock down. No dead body on the road. . Not that it looks as though trump may not come back they revived the fear .

Aaarrrrgghhh!!!!!

How can every human today be pure bred humans if according to the same you, the pool was contaminated several times, even after God tried are using a flood to remove them from the face of the earth, only for another batch to come back contaminating the pool even after the flood was long over.

Since not all of us come from the same pool that you suggest that Jesus Christ did, it is a given that many of us, especially of gentile ancestors, are long contaminated and useless as gas as salvation is concerned.

I am serious, your pastor man needs to write his own Bible at this point so that I can stop getting confused by what is in fact written in the Bible every way I turn in trying to understand this version of yours.

Kobojunkie:
Aaarrrrgghhh!!!!!

How can every human today be pure bred humans if according to the same you, the pool was contaminated several times, even after God tried are using a flood to remove them from the face of the earth, only for another batch to come back contaminating the pool even after the flood was long over.

But they were killed weren't they?

petra1:

But they were killed weren't they?

are you sure? I mean since the world is still filled with many people with the same statistics you listed earlier of these hybrid race.

The Bible never said the israelites went around the world on a campaign to end the race of giants... It does mention that they, the israelites, killed off those of that race who lived within the borders of banana, and others who attempted to invade maybe, but what about those of that race who lived on other isles and other continents?

So how can you indeed declare them all dead...when wss the last of them taken care of?

Kobojunkie:
are you sure? I mean since the world is still filled with many people with the same statistics you listed earlier of these hybrid race.

That doesn't constitute hybrid. Ofcourse demons are responsible. God has solved that' through christ . Now that christ has come . They're deliverance is through the gospel. We cast out devils . They are delivered through the gospel

But having a computerized injection into your blood which has ability to change human DNA . Is a difference ball game

petra1:

That doesn't constitute hybrid. Ofcourse demons are responsible. God has solved that' through christ . Now that christ has come . They're deliverance is through the gospel. We cast out devils . They are delivered through the gospel

But having a computerized injection into your blood which has ability to change human DNA . Is a different ball game

The demons did not produce hybrid humans, meaning the gene pool was not contaminated after the flood?
I maybe I should ask what again the demons were responsible for since you seem to be saying that unlike the fallen angels before them, the demons didn't cause the same sort of contamination to the gene-pool that the fallen angels written of before the flood did.?

Kobojunkie:
The demons did not produce hybrid humans, meaning the gene pool was not contaminated after the flood?

The giants have different races . The first sets are the Nephilims which were first generation and were very huge . There another set Anakims ,another Rephaims ,another Zuzims and Emims .

It is believed that the demons in the world are the ghosts of those giants. And they look for human bodies to enter to express themselves. In the old testament people who commit gruesome offenses like rape,murder ,gay were killed.

When Jesus came . He gave authority to cast out devils. So its like a deadly deasese that has a cure .

The world is not facing the threat of giant being mingling with men any longer. The new threat now is satan using scientific invention to turn man into a kind of zombie

Kobojunkie:
The demons did not produce hybrid humans, meaning the gene pool was not contaminated after the flood?

I maybe I should ask what again the demons were responsible for since you seem to be saying that unlike the fallen angels before them, the demons didn't cause the same sort of contamination to the gene-pool that the fallen angels written of before the flood did.?

petra1:
The giants have different races . The first sets are the Nephilims which were first generation and were very huge. There another set Anakims ,another Rephaims ,another Zuzims and Emims .

It is believed that the demons in the world are the ghosts of those giants. And they look for human bodies to enter to express themselves. In the old testament people who commit gruesome offenses like rape,murder ,gay were killed.

When Jesus came . He gave authority to cast out devils. So its like a deadly deasese that has a cure .

The world is not facing the threat of giant being mingling with men any longer. The new threat now is satan using scientific invention to turn man into a kind of zombie

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MuttleyLaff:


"⁹He became a fearlessf hunter in defiance ofg the LORD.
That is why it is said, “Like Nimrod, a fearless hunter in defiance of and/or before the LORD.”
¹⁰His kingdom began in the regioni of Shinar with the cities ofk Babylon, Erech, Akkad, and Calneh."
- Genesis 10:9-10

Of course, we were given a preview of Nimrod's character, make up, earlier life and antecedents at Genesis 10:9-10 before that, the infamous event, that happened at Genesis 11:2-4. Nimrod, was a badass person so Genesis 10:9 tells us, so due to the sort of person he was, he was the person who led the "they" to go plan, to gather together and make a name for themselves etcetera

Canaan was Nimrod's uncle. True, Cush was Nimrod's father ‎and it was Canaan who was cursed to be a servants of servants to his brothers etcetera. It is probably partly trying to shake off the curse of association, with Canaan, his uncle and Ham his grandfather, that was what propelled Nimrod to be more rebellious, audacious and ambitious.

So, yup, Nimrod and Co, the descendants of Ham, that's Ham, who was neither blessed nor cursed by Noah, were envious of Shem, whose name has two meanings. The first meaning is, "renown", "be known", "make a name for self" "have a prominent name for self" et cetera. The second/alternate/parallel meaning of Shem, is, dusky red, dusky complexion, complexion with some degree of dark coloration or olive coloured et cetera.

It is the first meaning, that's of particular interest here. The descendants of Ham, we're envious of Shem and his descendants' legacy. They, talking of Ham's descendants because of something in their gene, that still filtered through even after the flood destroying all bad people, coveted Shem and his descendants' heritage and so too, wanted to make a name for themselves, wanted to have name for themselves too, wanted to be renowned, be known all over the world, just the way Noah pronounced that blessing on Shem and his descendants. The descendants of Ham wanted all this, not because of God, not for the glory of God even not to glorify God by it, but was for the self centred reason of be known all over the place for themselves too. They wanted to make and have a name too for themselves.

Lastly and very significantly to note, is that, also, the erection of the tower, was going to typically reminiscence ‎Genesis 4:26b. It was literally them going to use the Tower to profane God's name. The final and successful erection of the high riding pointing in the sky tower, was going to be a symbol of sticking the middle finger up at God with it, as if saying go "f" yourself. God wasn't having any of that effrontery. He's had enough of Nimrod and the descendants of Ham's insolence and bad behaviour, that He came down to throw a spanner in their thoughts and so their plan effectively was disrupted.

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missjo:
Here is something i just came across regarding this. Tell me what you think, it's new to me especially the Canaan part.

http://www.blackhistoryinthebible.com/the-hamites/ham-the-father-of-africans/

MuttleyLaff:
"We even saw the Nephilim there—the descendants of Anak that come from the Nephilim!
We seemed like grasshoppers in our own sight, and we must have seemed the same to them!”"
- Numbers 13:33

missjojo, the bible verse Numbers 13:33 above disagrees with you that the giants after the flood were not Nephilim. Numbers 13:33 even has it saying in black and white that, the descendants of Anak that come from the Nephilim. Now if you had earlier sussed out that the Nephilim gene survived through being dormant in one of the wives of Noah's son, then by deductive reasoning and knowing how good you are at this, we know who this son is, wink, wink

Goliath was abnormally sized and so a giant

Nephilim, Rephaim, Anakims and other terms are names that giants are/were known as and interchangeably used to describe them. The Nephilims and/or Rephaims and whatnot, definitely werent angel hybrids stock (i.e. they certainly weren't part-angel part human at all)

"Now I am claiming as my own sons these two boys of yours, Ephraim and Manasseh, who were born here in the land of Egypt before I arrived.
They will be my sons, just as Reuben and Simeon are. "
- Genesis 48:5

The misunderstanding comes from connecting and joining the wrong dots, hence getting an outlined wrong picture. The explanation regarding this is, it is Canaan in that narrative that is referred to as the youngest in Genesis 9:24. I am sure Genesis 48:5 above, will help in getting an understanding of this

missjojo and Ihedinobi3 dont be in the habit of reading bible verses in isolation or just by themselves. Read contextually up on to the "interested-in" verse, and the surrounding after the "interested-in" verse in order to get a proper handle and way of understanding what is really going on in the narrative.

What a pity

MuttleyLaff:
Maamin, I recall remarking that your earlier post has more holes in it than Swiss cheese.
Now in this new post, you're digging bigger holes to the already present ones in your previous post. I dont even know where to start from, as you've presented too many holes for me plug

I will try and curtail my post, so not to cause information overload

Now, you earlier asked me, by typing:
"This giants were they physically big?"

At which I replied:
"Yeah now
Of course, they're physically big, as big, if not bigger than the original and previous Nephilims"

"The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and afterward as well,
when the sons of God had relations with the daughters of men.
And they bore them children who became the mighty men of old, men of renown."
- Genesis 6:4

"We even saw the Nephilim there—the descendants of Anak that come from the Nephilim!
We seemed like grasshoppers in our own sight, and we must have seemed the same to them!”"
- Numbers 13:33

"Some of these nations are descendants of the Anakim.
You know how tall and strong they are, and you've heard that no one can defeat them in battle."
- Deuteronomy 9:2

As I earlier said, the giants truly were wiped out during the Noah flood, but guess what again Maamin, the giant (i.e. the Nephilim) gene survived.

The gene survived the flood, to re-produce Nephilims (i.e. still extra size looking beings)
Aside Numbers 13:33 and Deuteronomy 9:2, we know, anyway from Genesis 6:4, that giants were on the earth in those days and afterwards.

So, the gene surviving, is what is responsible for the still extra size looking beings

I know what your next question will be or should be

1/ How, where and when has God impregnated humans?
2/ How do you mean " they are not specifically said not to be able to do so on earth"?

1/ What verses are you basing "Angels that left their original estate and took daughters of men..." on?
2/ Who do you think angels in "angels that left their original state" are?

You should know better, not to repeat the narrative that it is a snake that spoke
You also should know better, that Satan hasnt the power to make smallest animal to speak, talkess making a "snake" sic to speak
Get the facts right.

Please stop doing this, it feels like hearing fingernails on a chalkboard

Bearing in mind, that the sun and moon are called sons of God,
I half expect you to say, the sun and moon took the daughters of men

I hear you Maamin
even though Genesis 1:26-28, identifies categorically, clearly and definitely, who is to procreate and knowing that angels when dispatched for a mission, dont have sexual designs, when they are sent and/or when they appear

"²The sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful, and they took as wives whomever they chose.
³So the LORD said,
“My Spirit will not contend with man forever, for he is mortal; his days shall be 120 years.”
⁴The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and afterward as well, when the sons of God had relations with the daughters of men.
And they bore them children who became the mighty men of old, men of renown. "
- Genesis 6:2-4

"Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God."
- Luke 3:38

I sure hope you clearly can see this, that, they are no celestial beings (i.e. angels) involved anywhere in Genesis 6:2-4
You're asking an invalid question, when you ask of the sins of imaginary celestial beings (i.e. angels)

Watch this. You're like asking a single man "Are you still beating your wife?"
That's an invalid question, as he has no wife, just as, there were no celestial beings (i.e. angels) involved anywhere in Genesis 6:2-4, for you to be asking what where the angels sins.

The question shouldnt be what was the sin of these angels (i.e. celestial beings that are angels or messengers) but it should have been what were the sins of these human beings

You got caught up in the metaphors used in the bible. The bible does this quite a lot, using figure of speech that directly refers to one thing (e.g. human beings) by mentioning another (e.g. celestial beings) for rhetorical effect.

"³Never marry any of them. Never let your daughters marry their sons or your sons marry their daughters."
⁴These people will turn your children away from me to worship other gods.
Then the LORD will get very angry with you and will quickly destroy you.
- Deutronomy 7:3-4

Did I notice you, in there above, capitalised the s, in sons of God?

Mobilia succinctly on Page 1 and I on Page 3, had already told you, their very sins were intermarrying The giants were already on the earth before and after, produced by the sons and daughters of men but when the sons of men decided to begin having sex with the daughters of men too,
then the children born turned out to be famous with plenty of brains, as well as not just only brawn.

Read Genesis 6:4-7 slowly but loud out, to see how because of their infamy, wickedness and warrior fixated attitude they met their waterloo.

All fallen angels are demons of some sorts. The word angel, designates messenger, beings whether celestial or human, who is given work to carry messages or do a task

I disagree along with you too

You get possessed by whatever you expose yourself to. You can be possessed by whatever you permit yourself to come under its influence. All it takes is, a lapse of judgement, drop in guard, error of judgement, metal lapse, being emotionally vulnerable for possession to take place

Satan has a free pass, and so with it, enters everywhere on earth with it.

Satan doesnt really need a green light before popping head in or around. Satan is already being and still is here on this thread, reading aptly with keen interest

Satan enters you, I and everyone. It's not just Judas, remember the serpent, remember Peter (i.e. when and where in Matthew 16:23, Jesus turned and said to Peter, "Get behind me, Satan!'')

Thank you. I am grateful to you for replying back as best as you can.

I am sorry to be the one bursting your bubble but your beliefs believing that Genesis was not speaking about human sons of God but is speaking of angelic sons of God are false and wacky.

"Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God."
- Luke 3:38

Luke 3:36-38 goes back, to men, before the period of the flood and its happening and then verse 38, tracing to the very beginning, says about Adam, that he was the son of God.

The sons of God, are descendants of Adam, but more specifically that of Seth, who had high regard for God.

You are making a fallacy of equivalence.

Paste here each or all these older scriptures in the Torah that refers to sons of God as no other than angelic beings and I'll prove you wrong, that not all the so called older scriptures in the Torah, refers to sons of God, as angelic beings (i.e. celestial beings)

Written up the way you've done, I have just come across and read a discombobulated post. I am sorry Maamin, but you just have to improve and do better than this

I am not teaching. We havent, even with all I've put forward, scratched the tip of the iceberg, for it to even to be called teaching

Buff up and start pushing the envelope then

"In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil:
whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother."
- 1 John 3:10

If Adam is called a son of God in Luke 3:38, what do you think makes Noah?

Why repeat a known and unnecessary fact, huh?
Look at 1 John 3:10 now.
Maamin, anyone practising righteousness, is of God, and by default, is a son of God.

You whats the issue here?
You're too carnally minded, thats why you're clinging on to "angels" (i.e. incubi) taking human females for themselves
Where were and what were the succubi doing?
Painting their feet and finger nails?

1/ Maamin, why is it that its the men, as in human beings, that God singled out to punish for the sins of the daughter of men, committed with your supposedly "angels" with overly-imaginative and unrealistic tendencies?
2/ Why is it, that its man, that God mentions repeatedly, as having concerns over and so the reason He is going to destroy them?
3/ Why isnt there is a single mention of your supposedly randy "angels" being at fault as why He wants to clear up the earth with flood?

cc: Petra1, Kobojunkie, Kobojunkiee, MaxInDHouse

matrix199:




What's the point listening/watching when the ones listened to/watched during the lockdown were full of gibbers.




This Mr. Christopher Oyakhilome is really losing it gradually.

Am not of Christ Embassy but every thing Pastor Chris is now coming alive.

Covid 19 is over rated
Why shutdown churches for treatable less than one month sickness.

Okwyjesus:

Am not of Christ Embassy but every thing Pastor Chris is now coming alive.

Covid 19 is over rated
Why shutdown churches for treatable less than one month sickness.

spoken like a true Nigeria... So long as e no hit you, life is good, am I right?

Kobojunkie:
spoken like a true Nigeria... So long as e no hit you, life is good, am I right?

Bro am a healthcare worker. l

Okwyjesus:

Bro am a healthcare worker. l

Even worse! And I am speaking from experience.

Okwyjesus:


Am not of Christ Embassy but every thing Pastor Chris is now coming alive.

Many evidences are emerging but bring taken down

Covid 19 is over rated
Why shutdown churches for treatable less than one month sickness.

Malaria is worse than covvid