"There is nothing new in everything you said, we all know the country ain't good, we all know it is under siege, we all know it is this and that."

Then why do we keep feeding the monster that is not only keeping us impoverished but also taking our lives, it almost seems like we are waiting for Britain to come tell us they made a mistake,

You talk about creating awareness, when we do, we have to contend with you and people like candidtalk, all they want to talk about is ipob, play around and do it again tomorrow, you all go to bed feeling like patriots, it almost seems like the educated among us are the missing link. Can't they see the easiest way to get rid of ipob is a separate country or are they really Yoruba?

LegendHero:


You are also making the same mistake of the average Nigerian, complain complain without no solution.

There is nothing new in everything you said, we all know the country ain't good, we all know it is under siege, we all know it is this and that.

You as a proponent of Oduduwa republic, could you please tell us how we can realize it soon in a practicable manner? What will you do differently to achieve the feat rather than come online daily telling us this and that about Nigeria under siege.

For example, a lot of Nigerians are tired of the ruling class (APC &PDP), the woke youths complain online insulting leaders and saying the need to take power. When it's time for election they all waste their time doing irrelevant things and when the politicians win the youth come online and shout rigging rigging. That cycle continues the next 4 years and they complain again.

What tactics do you think we need to employ to get Oduduwa that is practicable and convincing enough? Do you think you can secure any Oduduwa without the buy-in of the relevant political class and Leaders?

StaffofOrayan:
"There is nothing new in everything you said, we all know the country ain't good, we all know it is under siege, we all know it is this and that."

Then why do we keep feeding the monster that is not only keeping us impoverished but also taking our lives, it almost seems like we are waiting for Britain to come tell us they made a mistake,

You talk about creating awareness, when we do, we have to contend with you and people like candidtalk, all they want to talk about is ipob, play around and do it again tomorrow, you all go to bed feeling like patriots, it almost seems like the educated among us are the missing link. Can't they see the easiest way to get rid of ipob is a separate country or are they really Yoruba?

Okay understood. Yes we all know we have problems but what is the solution?

You said the solution is about breaking Nigeria. Sound convincing enough BUT how do we achieve this successfully in the nearest future?

That is the question I've been asking you that you seems to be evading on purpose.

LegendHero:


NNamdi Kanu said in 2017 that one of the reasons why he created BSS is to curb Fulani Herdsmen menace.

Since 2017, there have been countless killings of the Ibos from Fulani herdsmen while the albino fugitive is wasting away in asylum.

How is that different from ESN manifesto? Do I need to type in Igbo before you understand me?

https://dailypost.ng/2017/08/20/established-biafra-security-service-ipob/

Guy are you dyslexic or something? how could BSS function when it was disbanded by the SE governors? the major reason all those killings were going on was because BSS ceased to exist as a result of its proscription by the FG...ESN is the product of necessity just like BSS, but unlike BSS it's now a situation of "we must protect ourselves at all cost so do your worse", that's why the SE governors ain't saying shit cause the people of the East don't care anymore

Tobichimezie:

[s]Guy are you dyslexic or something? how could BSS function when it was disbanded by the SE governors? the major reason all those killings were going on was because BSS ceased to exist as a result of its proscription by the FG...ESN is the product of necessity just like BSS, but unlike BSS it's now a situation of "we must protect ourselves at all cost so do your worse", that's why the SE governors ain't saying shit cause the people of the East don't care anymore[/s]

Stop saying nonsense.

No excuse for failure, The albino fugitive already conned you guys and stop all this diversionary tactics you are employing.

How are you so sure he is not scamming you guys with ESN again like he did with BSS? How are you so sure your sissy SE governors won't disband ESN? How are you so sure the ESN will not be another audio like BSS who failed in their promises to secure the SE against killer herdsmen?

This is the last time I am responding to you, I think I have expended enough time on you.

Goodnight!

First, we have to realize a system is only as real as the belief you put into it,

I don't believe there should be any bloodshed in leaving a contraption that is obviously not working, killing each other with premium weapons supplied by our colonial masters, that solution seems to be left for black people, who never really fancied themselves anyway,

The solution is in Brexit, how that isnt frigging obvious even to the seemingly educated is a mystery, why do we keep pretending like God created Nigeria and our suffering??

LegendHero:


Okay understood. Yes we all know we have problems but what is the solution?

You said the solution is about breaking Nigeria. Sound convincing enough BUT how do we achieve this successfully in the nearest future?

That is the question I've been asking you that you seems to be evading on purpose.

StaffofOrayan:
First, we have to realize a system is only as real as the belief you put into it,

I don't believe there should be any bloodshed in leaving a contraption that is obviously not working, killing each other with premium weapons supplied by our colonial masters, that solution seems to be left for black people, who never really fancied themselves anyway,

The solution is in Brexit, how that isnt frigging obvious even to the seemingly educated is a mystery, why do we keep pretending like God created Nigeria and our suffering??

I think we should just change the topic because tbh it is like we are going in circles.

But I think henceforth you should try to present convincing path to secession that are practicable enough since you’re the advocate of Oduduwa republic.

I always like intelligent discourse where people present superior logic than me so I can learn better but it seems I’ve not learnt anything new from our discussion because you haven’t presented any solution to the problem bedeviling us besides the usual “Exit”, “Dissolve”, and etc words we always hear.

Let’s just leave it like this until maybe later you have more practicable approach and we can discuss at length on the merit and demerits of the approach.

Have a nice night wherever you are.

LegendHero:


[s]Stop saying nonsense.

No excuse for failure, The albino fugitive already conned you guys and stop all this diversionary tactics you are employing.[/s]

[s]How are you so sure he is not scamming you guys with ESN again like he did with BSS? How are you so sure your sissy SE governors won't disband ESN? How are you so sure the ESN will not be another audio like BSS who failed in their promises to secure the SE against killer herdsmen?

This is the last time I am responding to you, I think I have expended enough time on you.

Goodnight!

[/s]

You brain dead mo.ron I don't believe in "what ifs" and other speculative conjectures, I believe in thr evidence on ground and what I've seen with my own korokoro eyes so far suggest there's no "scam" going on cause I've met and interacted with various members of the ESN in my community.

The conviction is coming,
Just be patient

LegendHero:


I think we should just change the topic because tbh it is like we are going in circles.

But I think henceforth you should try to present convincing path to secession that are practicable enough since you’re the advocate of Oduduwa republic.

I always like intelligent discourse where people present superior logic than me so I can learn better but it seems I’ve not learnt anything new from our discussion because you haven’t presented any solution to the problem bedeviling us besides the usual “Exit”, “Dissolve”, and etc words we always hear.

Let’s just leave it like this until maybe later you have more practicable approach and we can discuss at length on the merit and demerits of the approach.

Have a nice night wherever you are.

Mynd44:
So Seyi Makinde is shouting Herdsmen instead of facing the insecurity that seems to have engulfed Ibadan in recent days.

Okay…..

Seyi first undoing was rebranding Operation Burst. During Ajumose era, there were reports of human rights violation truly but we can't deny how massively OB contributed to the security of the state. You wouldn't even wanna think of ever committing a crime when you know OB might just be behind you. He really needs to consider bringing those folks back honestly.

StaffofOrayan:

Then why do we keep feeding the monster that is not only keeping us impoverished but also taking our lives, it almost seems like we are waiting for Britain to come tell us they made a mistake,

You talk about creating awareness, when we do, we have to contend with you and people like candidtalk, all they want to talk about is ipob, play around and do it again tomorrow, you all go to bed feeling like patriots, it almost seems like the educated among us are the missing link. Can't they see the easiest way to get rid of ipob is a separate country or are they really Yoruba?

people like candidtalk, helinues, sarki and the likes are not patriot par say. Their political allegiance will always get in the way of their sincerity. They know the truth but to them Buhari and Tinubu dynasty will rule forever and no matter what it costs, they must support them. The foolishness they deem wise.

StaffofOrayan:
The conviction is coming,
Just be patient

Alright I will.

StaffofOrayan:
"There is nothing new in everything you said, we all know the country ain't good, we all know it is under siege, we all know it is this and that."

Then why do we keep feeding the monster that is not only keeping us impoverished but also taking our lives, it almost seems like we are waiting for Britain to come tell us they made a mistake,

You talk about creating awareness, when we do, we have to contend with you and people like candidtalk, all they want to talk about is ipob, play around and do it again tomorrow, you all go to bed feeling like patriots, it almost seems like the educated among us are the missing link. Can't they see the easiest way to get rid of ipob is a separate country or are they really Yoruba?

My friend just shut up. Must we all face your direction? Prosecute your own fight and let others do same in search for solution to a problem. That way it is almost certain an acceptable solution will emerge.

Some of us believe, whatever else we have in mind, we must never neglect the politics of Nigeria and our need to be influential in it at the centre while our Nation remains what it is.

The North is Machiavellian and rapacious in outlook and approach. This is why it got the name "born to rule". To me it is not so much "born to rule" but "need to rule" since the region has long gotten to understand that control of the centre is crucial in an ethnically-divided and fractious nation like Nigeria.

Do your thing and let those of us who feel 'political might is right', at least as applied to Nigeria, do our thing. See my response on the thread below to note you don't know how I think and that you are personally very naive, easy to neutralize and very far behind in your awareness than other Yorubas are.

I never shy away from saying it as it is as seen below. Does not then mean I prosecute a war my circumstances mean I can't win. Perhaps better to engage in that war when I am equipped to win it.


https://www.nairaland.com/6342571/biafra-esn-work-fulani-herdsmen/1#97667017

candidtalk:


Best comment here. Buhari and his pro-Fulani cabal let it get to this with their inaction.

This whole vagrant existence of Fulani was never going away as it is not an acceptable way for anyone to live in a modern nation. When serious crime is then attached to that Fulani nomadic life the victims of their actions will eventually act.

Might be the wrong move and may cause serious problems for all Southerners but people will get fed up and will protect themselves in the end in the face of leadership silence/inaction. Blame Buhari and the North for this squarely.

Kapilta:
people like candidtalk, helinues, sarki and the likes are not patriot par say. Their political allegiance will always get in the way of their sincerity. They know the truth but to them Buhari and Tinubu dynasty will rule forever and no matter what it costs, they must support them. The foolishness they deem wise.

Lol. Who is a patriot? You and your delusional pal StaffofOrayan? When we descend into full-scale internecine or ethnic strife, as happened devastatingly in Rwanda and other places historically, I will remind characters like you of your foolhardy approach.

Were Fulani this bold and daring before? What changed to embolden them to act with so much impunity?

Once you know what changed you will appreciate that it is the reversal of that change, with some permanent tweaks, that will likely bring the permanent solution and brighter future we all crave.

You guys should start acting your age and stop trying to discredit others who don't buy into your approach yet have the same desire to see solutions arrive asap.

StaffofOrayan:
First, we have to realize a system is only as real as the belief you put into it,

I don't believe there should be any bloodshed in leaving a contraption that is obviously not working, killing each other with premium weapons supplied by our colonial masters, that solution seems to be left for black people, who never really fancied themselves anyway,

The solution is in Brexit, how that isnt frigging obvious even to the seemingly educated is a mystery, why do we keep pretending like God created Nigeria and our suffering??

bro..I'm a Yoruba too and I'm pro Yoruba as well..but oduduwa republic will be a disaster.. imagine sharing the same country with tinubu(or his type) and his supporters?
imagine if they are the people with power? where they beat and chase away voters every election or turn the nation to banana republic hunting down every perceived opponent?
I will never feel safe sharing country with this bunch of people.. truth be told Nigeria is masking a lot of issues in SW

StaffofOrayan:
First, we have to realize a system is only as real as the belief you put into it,

I don't believe there should be any bloodshed in leaving a contraption that is obviously not working, killing each other with premium weapons supplied by our colonial masters, that solution seems to be left for black people, who never really fancied themselves anyway,

The solution is in Brexit, how that isnt frigging obvious even to the seemingly educated is a mystery, why do we keep pretending like God created Nigeria and our suffering??

Lol. You are a bigger joker than I took you for. One of the first and most basic rule of interaction and engagement is to never take impractical people seriously.

I.e people like you who try to get water out of a stone. Please can you tell us who or what will give you "Brexit" right now?

You? Your Dad? Buhari? Senate President Lawan? Speaker HOR Gbajabiamila, our 'patriotic' legislator coming together to do what is required? Your State Governor? The seccesion clause your family or Oduduwa political camp inserted in our national constitution?

Another Northern President in 2023? Who or what exactly will lead and deliver your "Brexit" legally and without protestations and rancor?


Better wise up bro. You are childishly stubborn and I can't believe Yorubas like you exist who are so dogmatically stuck up your own azzes you cannot even see what is very obvious that others are trying to point out to you.

Goodluck buddy. You're a waste of time and nowhere near as useful to the Yorubas as you and your 'local champion' pals delusionally think you are.

candidtalk:



Lol. You are a bigger joker than I took you for. One of the first and most basic rule of interaction and engagement is to never take impractical people seriously.

I.e people like you who try to get water out of a stone. Please can you tell us who or what will give you "Brexit" right now?

You? Your Dad? Buhari? Senate President Lawan? Speaker HOR Gbajabiamila, our 'patriotic' legislator coming together to do what is required? Your State Governor? The seccesion clause your family or Oduduwa political camp inserted in our national constitution?

Another Northern President in 2023? Who or what exactly will lead and deliver your "Brexit" legally and without protestations and rancor?


Better wise up bro. You are childishly stubborn and I can't believe Yorubas like you exist who are so dogmatically stuck up your own azzes you cannot even see what is very obvious that others are trying to point out to you.

Goodluck buddy. You're a waste of time and nowhere near as useful to the Yorubas as you and your 'local champion' pals delusionally think you are.

He even wanted to do it (separation) without shedding blood. LOL..

The only strategy some of them seem to have is to profess hate for Fulani while their Igbo friends clap for them (while their Igbo friends are working day and night to be VeePee to another Fulani). Clowns.