HellVictorinho:

Keep it up!!!!
Keep spreading nonsense!!!!!!

Have a great evening my man

mcjohny:

please whats happening between you and @nuttella

Oh the usual

How are you this evening my man ?

GofuckYourself:


Have a great evening my man

Au Revoir

Hmm what u said may actualy true, demons are real with his fallen angels they are doing havoc to the church may god help us they are real war between good and evil may god help us.

GofuckYourself:


Oh the usual

How are you this evening my man ?

Usual? just confused at her accusation. mehn, I think I love this particular topic, will love to learn more about spiritsm and astral travelling.
May dm u

mcjohny:

Usual? just confused at her accusation. mehn, I think I love this particular topic, will love to learn more about spiritsm and astral travelling.
May dm u

Anytime my man , anytime.

mcjohny:

please whats happening between you and @nuttella

You sef you like amebo

Nuttella:
Wahala for who dey astral travel. Astral travelling is pure witchcraft.

i heard the late king of pop also astra-traveled.

Nuttella:
You sef you like amebo

lol

GofuckYourself:

Anytime my man , anytime.

GofuckYourself:

Anytime my man , anytime.

Nuttella:
About the chat you posted, let me tell you what happened, the guy that sent you those messages first sent me a pm from Nairaland, he said he has been having sex in his dream constantly asked me how to overcome the sexual demon tormenting his life, I told him how to fast and the prayer points to pray. He still went ahead to send you a pm and mention my name in the process(Typical of Nigerians, very double standard).

You wish I am obsessed with you .

pls leave this thread. what's wrong with u?

Bruno3000:
pls leave this thread. what's wrong with u?

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Aditkd:


0.. Thank you.

Okay pls delete your number

GofuckYourself:


Okay pls delete your number

please I need help my WhatsApp link is on my signature

HellVictorinho:

You have not defined anything.
What are spirits??

What would you accept as the proper definition for spirits?

triplechoice:


What would you accept as the proper definition for spirits?

A definition that shows what they are made of or/and what they do.

HellVictorinho:

A definition that shows what they are made of or/and what they do.

Before doing that, I would like to know what previous knowledge or experience do you have of spirit (s) before now?

triplechoice:


Before doing that, I would like to know what previous knowledge or experience do you have of spirit (s) before now?

Well, I have heard several stories.

By D Way, U Are Right In All U Av Said Except Ur Say Dat No Amount Of Prayer Can Save Anyone Attacked. What U Said Abt D Eckankar & D Brotherhood Of D Cross & Star Is True. Astral Projection Is Fun But Dangerous. Why? U Can Be Harm By An Evil Person Or Forces. I Av Had Similar Experience Dat Has To Do With Occultism.

HellVictorinho:

Well, I have heard several stories.

Your response already suggest to me that you're a sceptic who doesn't accept the reality of spirits.

Well, it doesn't matter what you accept or don't accept. The fact is that spirit is the original source energy of everything that exist. It's the energy which pervades all of life without which nothing can ever exist or have life.. Spirit can take on any form , visible or invisible and find expression in it

Spirit is what actually enlivens the human body and once that energy starts to ebb away then it wouldn't be long before the individual departs this plane of existence

For further discussion ,I would suggest will move this to one of your threads where you asked , what spirit is. I don't want us to derail this thread expect the owner gives us the permission to continue

triplechoice:


Your response already suggest to me that you're a sceptic who doesn't accept the reality of spirits.

Well, it doesn't matter what you accept or don't accept. The fact is that spirit is the original source energy of everything that exist. It's the energy which pervades all of life without which nothing can ever exist or have life.. Spirit can take on any form , visible or invisible and find expression in it

Spirit is what actually enlivens the human body and once that energy starts to ebb away then it wouldn't be long before the individual departs this plane of existence

For further discussion ,I would suggest will move this to one of your threads where you asked , what spirit is. I don't want us to derail this thread expect the owner gives us the permission to continue

What do you mean by everything that exists
Are you saying there is nothing except what you call everything?
Well, if a spirit refers to something (material),then it should have specific features or/and functions.
If a spirit refers to something (abstract),then it should be capable of being felt.
So,you shouldn't say I don't want to accept the reality of this or that.
The onus is on you to state what makes spirits a reality.
Furthermore,if there are more than one spirit,then it means there are more than one sources of energy for everything.
But how does that make sense??
What kind of energy are you even talking about??
That energy should have a specific name.

Tinyemeka:
Why would one wish to go into witchcraft?

About the woman you spoke about at the beginning of your post, were you in your physical form and saw her astral form?

That she suddenly vanished, does it mean she had woken up physically?

She might be roaming around. People who astral project often end up not being able to get back to their bodies and end up dead or their bodies would be possessed by demons and spirits of the dead

Fvckyouall:


She might be roaming around. People who astral project often end up not being able to get back to their bodies and end up dead or their bodies would be possessed by demons and spirits of the dead

Very true

HellVictorinho:

What do you mean by everything that exists
Are you saying there is nothing except what you call everything?
Well, if a spirit refers to something (material),then it should have specific features or/and functions.
If a spirit refers to something (abstract),then it should be capable of being felt.
So,you shouldn't say I don't want to accept the reality of this or that.
The onus is on you to state what makes spirits a reality.
Furthermore,if there are more than one spirit,then it means there are more than one sources of energy for everything.
But how does that make sense??
What kind of energy are you even talking about??
That energy should have a specific name.

It appears I have created confusion by saying too many things. So I am going to simply redefine spirit.

Spirit is the true source of everything in the universe

triplechoice:


It appears I have created confusion by saying too many things. So I am going to simply redefine spirit.

Spirit is the true source of everything in the universe

Is this not what they call God?
Are you not the confused one??
Some people even say the universe is God.
You're saying the same thing I have heard before concerning the universe.
But I don't agree because it doesn't make sense.
It's not possible for the universe to have a creator or a source.

HellVictorinho:

Is this not what they call God?
Are you not the confused one??
Some people even say the universe is God.
You're saying the same thing I have heard before concerning the universe.
But I don't agree because it doesn't make sense.
It's not possible for the universe to have a creator or a source.

What is God?
If the universe has a source or a creator, it's not possible for you to know this because it's impossible for you to know anything beyond what you currently know or have experienced.

You seem to be certain that you know it all. So I ask, how can you be so sure of the knowledge that you have even when science is still trying to understand how the universe came into existence

Mind you ,I never said spirit created anything. I only said it's the source or original "material" from which everything is drawn from. Now who is confused here?

GofuckYourself:
I had an unusual experience so I will use this opportunity to also admonish as I have done in the past

I always sleep on my back I find this rather comfortable whenever I can get some time away from my counselling to sleep this position is my favorite.

So last night I had my last online session around 11 pm and decided to go to bed

I always set my alarm for 2am to wake immediately the alarm started I woke up

And there and then a woman was laying exactly opposite me floating above me and staring down at me.

As if she was laying on her back but exactly above me looking downwards at me floating in the air .

Her eyes were closed then they opened suddenly and she was gone ...

Creepy yeah? Not really that was her astral form and because I am clairvoyant and can see Astral forms I could see her

Now this same lady sent me a message on WhatsApp some weeks ago from here she was so interested in witchcraft and Astral traveling but my spirit guide warned me against discussing further with her and I tried my best to admonish her like I have done to so many people

I will do it again

ASTRAL TRAVELING IS DANGEROUS

There is no power nor anything special to be gained I astral traveling ! You are only endangering your life

What is astral traveling


For centuries sages , Buddhists, Monks, Wizards , Witches, Occultists etc have all engaged in Astral traveling for various reasons

Astral traveling is when your spirit leaves it's physical body naturally or induced and journeys into the astral plain.

The astral plain is the slowest plain to this earth it's like a mirror image of here but different ,you can say it's like an upside down version of here or an inverted version.

Your spirit leaves your body in it's astral form which looks exactly like the body you have in this life currently. The astral plain feels ,looks and tastes like this world but it's darker and a very dangerous place.

Why do people astral travel

For various reasons , some think there is power to be gained in astral traveling, some for fun, some for discovery and some naturally they fall into such trances if they are born with certain gifts.


How does it happen

Okay there are images I know off if I was to draw them and have you meditate on them you would be induced into a trance state and your astral body would float out from your physical body.

There are hypnotic trances I could induce or one could be induced into that would force you to astral travel

There are tunes if combined with certain ingested items would induce a trance like state and you would astral travel

There are some who can just decide to leave their body and astral travel

Irrespective of the means the experience is the same you step out of your body and enter the astral world


Dangers of Astral traveling

Astral traveling when induced is DANGEROUS. I repeat when induced is very dangerous!

It's like driving into a parked mall like shoprite and leaving your car with all the doors open, in this case the car is your physical body. In the astral plain or world there are lots of what you call djins, spirits , and demons who can't inhabit a physical body and are looking for one to enter ...

Each time you induce astral travelling you weaken the natural magnetic bond between your body and your spirit ...

Hence it seems easier to do each time.. nope the bond is just getting weaker and with that your physical body starts to look older aged faster... Because of the unimaginable strain astral travelling does this so why you feel so laboured afterwards.

Two things to be aware of

1. Witchcraft, wizardy or whatever dark art you know of uses the astral plain !! It is through this plain they attack their victims ... if you want to learn from my work forget what you think or know before and understand me.

2. Whatever is done to someones astral body directly happens to their physical body. For example if you wanted to render someone permanently blind with no medical cure int he astral plain go to their astral body and pluck out it's eyes .. se fini

No matter the amount of prayers or medical help sort it won't fix it ever again. Because damage to the astral body is permanent. Only divine powers like our Lord Jesus Christ could command and speedily fix such with his words this is why I tell people any pastor telling you they cure illnesses is a liar I know this for a fact.

Now it's worthy to note there are some spiritual healers who are born with a gift that can heal an astral body but these people are so rare you may go a whole life time never meeting one.

This is why witcraft and those who practice it are very effective due to this simple knowledgeable but to know is to lower the bridge and to protect one's self is also simple . Astral attacks are subject to the spiritual laws. If one is targeting someone's astral body but that person has a strong spiritual aura they can't get close enough to attack them.

How do you keep in your spiritual aura strong? Doing good by being truly good not by shouting die by fire no but by being deep down a truly good person that gives enough protection.

Now back to astral travelling

When you induce astral travelling you leave your body empty and wander off ..now some spirit who wants to do evil can enter your body and keep your spirit trapped out now because this spirit doesn't own this body the bond is unnatural and hence it acts outwardly like a mad person or what is called insane. The person acts as if under an influence. This is what we call possession in spiritism.

Now possession doesn't just happen through astral traveling alone . Whatever weakens the bond between spirit and body is dangerous and can result 8n temporary possession.

This is why hard drugs are bad they weaken the bond between your spirit and body so much that any spirit who wants to misbehave will just push out your spirit take control of your body and wreck havock then when you regain control of your body you will be shocked to hear what you did .

3. In the astral plain there are lots of beings and spirits stuck on this earth whom are roaming and have become so dark you would think they are demons ..

There are those of us who where born with these gifts and can astral travel naturally. When it is natural it is safer and though still unadvised but with less dire consequences.

Yes some groups like Eckancar , brotherhood of cross and star , etc train members to astral travel but like I always advise except you are going into witchcraft there is no need.

Now why would you even want to go into witchcraft?

This is a very sensitive issue that I have wanted to discuss but I am so wary of the knowledge sharing because with what I would share one can hurt anyone

Anyways I am here for more questions on the topic or you can find me on WhatsApp

You seem to know so much about something you know nothing about.

triplechoice:


What is God?
If the universe has a source or a creator, it's not possible for you to know this because it's impossible for you to know anything beyond what you currently know or have experienced.

You seem to be certain that you know it all. So I ask, how can you be so sure of the knowledge that you have even when science is still trying to understand how the universe came into existence

Mind you ,I never said spirit created anything. I only said it's the source or original "material" from which everything is drawn from. Now who is confused here?

Why won't I know if the universe has a source or a creator
I know that the universe cannot have a creator or a source because it's impossible for living things to precede non-living things or/and it is impossible for something (material) to be a source of another thing(material) except there is a third object that causes it to produce that thing.
I don't have to experience what is outside the universe in order to know there are things outside it.
It's a matter of logic.
Since the universe is actually something,then it has limits.
Since it has limits,there are other things except it instead of nothing.

The5DME:
You seem to know so much about something you know nothing about.

Hahahahahahahaha

Another one

Okay whatever makes you happy man

Anything else ?

HellVictorinho:

Why won't I know if the universe has a source or a creator
I know that the universe cannot have a creator or a source because it's impossible for living things to precede non-living things or/and it is impossible for something (material) to be a source of another thing(material) except there is a third object that causes it to produce that thing.
I don't have to experience what is outside the universe in order to know there are things outside it.
It's a matter of logic.
Since the universe is actually something,then it has limits.
Since it has limits,there are other things except it instead of nothing.

Your argument rest on logic, a human construct which is never a perfect tool for determining the complete truth.about anything.

For instance, if all your life you have never tasted anything sweet or know of anything that is sweet, no amount of logical reasoning would make you know what it means to taste honey. The whole idea of honey being sweet or what it is would be lost on you if presented to you for the first time

So, for you to fully grasp what spirit means or represent, a direct experience of it is required and not mental gymnastics

And the best place to begin knowing the truth about spirit and the universe that we live in is from yourself.

Know thy self. I am sure you're familiar with this statement.

triplechoice:


Your argument rest on logic, a human construct which is never a perfect tool for determining the complete truth.about anything.

For instance, if all your life you have never tasted anything sweet or know of anything that is sweet, no amount of logical reasoning would make you know what it means to taste honey. The whole idea of honey being sweet or what it is would be lost on you if presented to you for the first time

So, for you to fully grasp what spirit means or represent, a direct experience of it is required and not mental gymnastics

And the best place to begin knowing the truth about spirit and the universe that we live in is from yourself.

Know thy self. I am sure you're familiar with this statement.

The truth is that spirits don't exist.

HellVictorinho:

The truth is that spirits don't exist.

You are incapable of knowing if spirit or spirits exist or what it actually represents.

But you can still know if you want to