The will of God is for all inhabitants of the earth to live as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers! Isaiah 2:2-4

But we all come from different backgrounds, financial status, level of education, languages and hobbies, so before this could be possible we need to have a common thought!

All of us must agree that their is just one God and father who created us all through one man Adam so we need to stop discriminating as children of the same God and FATHER!

Secondly we need to know that all these problems we're going through today emanates from the disobedience of our first human parents and acknowledge the only means of reconciliation back to God which is Jesus Christ God's SON

Lastly coming together to do God's will is not easy for imperfect humans so we have to rely on God's active force to help us in accomplishing the impossible God's HOLY SPIRIT

That's the import of Matthew 28:19-20

bixton:

This is what matters
Do you believe in God the Father?
Do you believe in Jesus Christ as Son of God who died and was resurrected?
Do you believe in the Holy Spirit?

MaxInDHouse:
The will of God is for all inhabitants of the earth to live as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers! Isaiah 2:2-4

But we all come from different backgrounds, financial status, level of education, languages and hobbies, so before this could be possible we need to have a common thought!

All of us must agree that their is just one God and father who created us all through one man Adam so we need to stop discriminating as children of the same God and FATHER!

Secondly we need to know that all these problems we're going through today emanates from the disobedience of our first human parents and acknowledge the only means of reconciliation back to God which is Jesus Christ God's SON





Lastly coming together to do God's will is not easy for imperfect humans so we have to rely on God's active force to help us in accomplishing the impossible God's HOLY SPIRIT

That's the import of Matthew 28:19-20

Eph.4.13 - till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ;

MIND YOUR LANGUAGE. JESUS CHRIST IS KJV LANGUAGE. JESUS IS ANOINTED. CHRIST IS SAVIOUR.

JEHOVAH IS THE VULGATE TRANSLATION OF THE SEPTUAGINT'S YAHWEH.

YES!
But Satan doesn't want this to work so he quickly sow weeds in the midst of Jesus' fine seeds overnight {Matthew 13:25} that's why there are so many pagan religions all claiming Christians today. It's only Jesus' true followers that can meet up with what was recorded @ Ephesians 4:13, all other imitations will continue to contradict themselves yet they'll say they're worshiping the same God, this will continue until Jesus comes to destroy them all because they'll never attain to that goal ONENESS or UNITY!

bixton:

Eph.4.13 - till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ;

bixton:


There's no such thing as test running. It's not an automobile machine.

No one can truly practice what he/she does not believe and have faith in.

Lol . Sorry if I used the word test running. Hahahaha
You see where you got it wrong. I said christians missed the link by exchanging the glory of the immortal for created stories. And what's wrong or strange about believing in an immortal invisible God. It is even more realistic than a part of God(immortal) becoming dead(mortal)
for your sin.

Many cultures believed in the almighty invisible(more realistic) even before religion was brought to them.

MaxInDHouse:
If he truly understood he won't ask you any question!
For the fact that he still asked a question shows he hasn't agreed with you but since you don't know what next to say you'll rather look for means of escape after divulging your personal preconceived thoughts.
Well that's the difference between true Christians and misinformed Churchgoers who are also claiming Christians.
Jesus never asked his followers to walk away from someone who asks questions rather they must ascertain whether there is an agreement or not, if there's an agreement the person becomes their brother in faith but when there's disagreement they mark that place {Matthew 10:13} they mark the place means the person is not someone with whom they're worshiping the same God that's why Jesus said such ones will not survive the coming destruction! Matthew 10:14-15

It's pathetic seeing arrogant misinformed Churchgoers claiming they're also preaching when they're not making any progress in disciple making work Jesus commissioned.

Please between the OP and you what was the conclusion of your chatting? Obviously both just went your separate ways without any concrete agreement on teaching!

So are both of you Christians worshiping the same God now that you're not of the same line of thought? 1Corinthians 1:10

That's why JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES believes you guys are just deceiving yourselves!

Lol. Stop dragging me into man made religion.
That response "I'm impressed you understood.." was not for you
It wasn't necessary to write this man made epistle of yours

The death of someone for your sins is nothing short of peganism if you ask me.
Immortal means not dieing. So a part of God dieing is the craziest thing man can ever conceive. It is not even spiritually or humanly logical(if there is anything like that). It's just indoctrination .. that's why a few wouldn't agree with me

Man made religion!

It's pathetic that you don't know the meaning of the phrase man made religion
But for the benefit of humble, honest hearted and sincere followers i'll explain.

There is no way you can distinguish between pure worship and man made religion by simply quoting books! WHY?
Because each religionist will stick to what is written in the book he believes and the interpretation given to the texts by their teachers.
So how can we detect man-made doctrines ?

Man-made doctrines will never produce the fruit of God's Holy Spirit in the midst of it's adherents {Matthew 7:16-18} this fruit has nine tastes as recorded @ Galatians 5:22-23.
What blurs the sight of most people is the Gift of the SPIRIT which could be found in all religions, for instance there is no religion where they don't prophesy, speak in tongues, see visions, perform miraculous healings, teachings and what have you.
But as regards the FRUIT only pure worship can produce this because it's God's Holy Spirit that's working it out not demons, and mind you demons do have all those gifts because they were also spirit sons of God before they rebelled. But the FRUIT is what they can't produce because the spirit producing that is not an independent spirit rather it's God's active force in the midst of people practicing pure worship!

Jman24:

Lol. Stop dragging me into man made religion.
That response "I'm impressed you understood.." was not for you
It wasn't necessary to write this man made epistle of yours

Salvation naturally comes when you turn away from evil and do good that's all. And that's why you have so many vices now; they throw away conscience for religion; where u are promised salvation, therefore u can commit all sorts of atrocities and hope ur sins are washed at on dial to heaven Even when u have not conscientiously done away with adultery for instance.

The standard from your good book from Genesis to revelation is to make effort to stop evil, do the right things and you are saved. Very logical

*(2chronicles 7:14)*
if My people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and *turn from their wicked ways*, then I will hear from heaven, and will *forgive their sin* and heal their land.

MaxInDHouse:
Man made religion!

It's pathetic that you don't know the meaning of the phrase man made religion
But for the benefit of humble, honest hearted and sincere followers i'll explain.

There is no way you can distinguish between pure worship and man made religion by simply quoting books! WHY?
Because each religionist will stick to what is written in the book he believes and the interpretation given to the texts by their teachers.
So how can we detect man-made doctrines ?

Man-made doctrines will never produce the fruit of God's Holy Spirit in the midst of it's adherents {Matthew 7:16-18} this fruit has nine tastes as recorded @ Galatians 5:22-23.
What blurs the sight of most people is the Gift of the SPIRIT which could be found in all religions, for instance there is no religion where they don't prophesy, speak in tongues, see visions, perform miraculous healings, teachings and what have you.
But as regards the FRUIT only pure worship can produce this because it's God's Holy Spirit that's working it out not demons, and mind you demons do have all those gifts because they were also spirit sons of God before they rebelled. But the FRUIT is what they can't produce because the spirit producing that is not an independent spirit rather it's God's active force in the midst of people practicing pure worship!

If you noticed, even my submissions, I don't take it to heart. But I make submissions based on the standards in your good book. Which was clear that people over time exchanged the glory of the "immortal" God.

My submission is not an absolute!! Gracias !

Highlighted sounds really funny!

"No stone will be left on the other"~ Jesus of Nazareth Luke 21:6

You can never find a single person that will truly agree with you! Luke 11:23

That's the heritage of practicers of pure worship! John 17:20-23; 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3

Of course the world hates the truth but truth seekers will be united as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers {Micah 4:3} not by man-made doctrines but by the power of God's Holy Spirit! John 17:14-17

Jman24:
The death of someone for your sins is nothing short of peganism if you ask me.
Immortal means not dieing. So a part of God dieing is the craziest thing man can ever conceive. It is not even spiritually or humanly logical(if there is anything like that). It's just indoctrination .. that's why a few wouldn't agree with me

MaxInDHouse:
Highlighted sounds really funny!

"No stone will be left on the other"~ Jesus of Nazareth Luke 21:6

You can never find a single person that will truly agree with you! Luke 11:23

That's the heritage of practicers of pure worship! John 17:20-23; 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3

Of course the world hates the truth but truth seekers will be united as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers {Micah 4:3} not by man-made doctrines but by the power of God's Holy Spirit! John 17:14-17

Of course you can't find many that could agree with you. But don't make it look like it was Jesus that first had the idea people won't agree with you. These are philosophical ideas known to people before biblical Jesus

Highlighted!

I can notice that in your post so you too can see the difference between worshipers of my own God and worshipers of other Gods. My own God demand whole soul devotion! Mark 12:30
Of course we welcome people from all races and we don't ask for perfection but you must recognize the one source of Spiritual nourishment and willing to abide by the standard so when you commit blunders nobody judges you because we're all imperfect. One thing you mustn't do is rebel against divine required standard!
No matter how good, nice or kind you may prove to be, as long as you don't recognize one source of divine guidance, you can't worship our own God. That's the import of John 3:16, take note of the phrase Only begotten SON! it connotes one line of thought! John 17:20-23

Jman24:

If you noticed, even my submissions, I don't take it to heart. But I make submissions based on the standards in your good book. Which was clear that people over time exchanged the glory of the "immortal" God.
My submission is not an absolute Gracias !

Janosky:


Bros Maamin, good afternoon Sir.
Longest time no see..
I hope you are doing fine.

Shalom.

I am doing great brother ...really longest time

Took a break for about 2 years

How is everything with you?

Tcwork:

Sir you need to read my thread properly. I never said the father and the son are the same entity
I said the son, Jesus Christ is Jehovah and not the father

The father is Yahweh (Jehovah)

The very God Jesus came in his name

Tcwork:

What is your point sir

You wont get it now may be later, but those that got it will understand my point.

MaxInDHouse:
Highlighted!

I can notice that in your post so you too can see the difference between worshipers of my own God and worshipers of other Gods. My own God demand whole soul devotion! Mark 12:30
Of course we welcome people from all races and we don't ask for perfection but you must recognize the one source of Spiritual nourishment and willing to abide by the standard so when you commit blunders nobody judges you because we're all imperfect. One thing you mustn't do is rebel against divine required standard!
No matter how good, nice or kind you may prove to be, as long as you don't recognize one source of divine guidance, you can't worship our own God. That's the import of John 3:16, take note of the phrase Only begotten SON! it connotes one line of thought! John 17:20-23

Max you are a funny fellow.
Taking to heart a manuscript a foreigner handed over to you.

YES!
That's what we call "the wisdom of the world" surely people have walked this earth with lots of philosophical theories and most of them are world class philosophers whose names can never be forgotten by adherents of their teachings. Buddha, Plato, Socrates and many others were renoun philosophers of ancient times even before Jesus walked the earth!
But none of them had the teaching that could form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers globally!
YES! JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES taught me that Jesus was enthroned in 1914 and ever since then he as a mighty spirit King began gathering his subjects throughout the earth, today Jesus' true followers have stood out as one global family known as JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.
Even critics can't deny what they're seeing in the midst of these people, they will say "Jehovah's Witnesses love their fellow members" John 13:34-35
Though there are nine qualities of God's holy spirit that's permeating this GROUP, unbelievers can only notice one just as Jesus foretold but those who have drawn closer can testify to the fact that there's LOVE JOY PEACE PATIENCE GOODNESS GENTLENESS FAITH MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL permeating this gathering of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Galatians 5:22-23

So unlike those philosophers who died and never had any lasting influence on those who subscribe to their philosophies, Jesus of Nazareth came back as a mighty spirit King to ORGANIZE his own followers that's why we are called JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ORGANIZATION!

Jman24:

Of course you can't find many that could agree with you. But don't make it look like it was Jesus that first had the idea people won't agree with you. These are philosophical ideas known to people before biblical Jesus

Jman24:


Lol . Sorry if I used the word test running. Hahahaha
You see where you got it wrong. I said christians missed the link by exchanging the glory of the immortal for created stories. And what's wrong or strange about believing in an immortal invisible God. It is even more realistic than a part of God(immortal) becoming dead(mortal)
for your sin.

Many cultures believed in the almighty invisible(more realistic) even before religion was brought to them.

It is those cultures that brought in the words immortal, deity,etc,etc, trying to transcribe(permit my usage) the glory of their god to that of the living God.

The Scripture I read does not have religion written in it and God did not give religion to man. Religion is an offspring(off shoot) of the Greeks. It was never of the Jews.

One of the reasons God called and chose Abraham was that he forsook the culture of his father and learn the culture that God will hand over to him. This is one of the reasons why God always never wanted Israel to marry strange women so that they don't give in to strange ways.


Our marriage into the so called religion is not God's doing.

Those who are pagans who wanted to live double life brought the word religion into being to have some form of acceptance.


Those who brought the word to us did a good thing because it is a command in the book.

Matt.24.14 - And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.



Now to those who have the Scripture they should read the Words all over again to know what is required of each one.


So whether you have or believing in an invisible God, an immortal being, or an immortal God who becoming dead(mortal) for your sin....


It's important to note that whoever cares to believe it will be granted to him by the One whose word is Truth, Life and Light, tested and trusted all through the ages to the end of the age.

There is only One God and Jesus is His Son who died and resurrected that all men may be reconciled to the Father.

The manuscript that has helped in bringing people from different races even penetrating the den of world's most racist nations to form one global family!

YES! I completely believe that this manuscript is from the one with whom all things are possible!

Jman24:

Max you are a funny fellow.
Taking to heart a manuscript a foreigner handed over to you.

MaxInDHouse:
The manuscript that has helped in bringing people from different races even penetrating the den of world's most racist nations to form one global family!

YES! I completely believe that this manuscript is from the one with whom all things are possible!

I'm happy you realized it was meant to control a large population with you inclusive

Maamin:


You wont get it now may be later, but those that got it will understand my point.

I thought as much, you were sending a secret message to your people

Maamin:


The father is Yahweh (Jehovah)

The very God Jesus came in his name

We, I disagree with you, Yaweh is not Jehovah. Jesus Christ is Jehovah.
It was Jesus Christ (Jehovah ) that visited Moses and spoke with him face to face not Yahweh

Janosky:

Jesus you said has a Father, you now claim he is the same person his Father is.

That is always their confusion

I told him earlier he said no

Tcwork:

You seem to be writing another bible. A saviour is a saviour. The bible never spoke about or differentiated the classes of saviours. You are now using human wisdom to create classes of saviours

The same way you're creating classes of Gods and differentiating small letter g and capital letter G God some while ago.

Tcwork:

I thought as much, you were sending a secret message to your people

Not really because it's a forum and many other people are also following the discussion.

bixton:




It is those cultures that brought in the words immortal, deity,etc,etc, trying to transcribe(permit my usage) the glory of their god to that of the living God.

The Scripture I read does not have religion written in it and God did not give religion to man. Religion is an offspring(off shoot) of the Greeks. It was never of the Jews.

One of the reasons God called and chose Abraham was that he forsook the culture of his father and learn the culture that God will hand over to him. This is one of the reasons why God always never wanted Israel to marry strange women so that they don't give in to strange ways.


Our marriage into the so called religion is not God's doing.

Those who are pagans who wanted to live double life brought the word religion into being to have some form of acceptance.


Those who brought the word to us did a good thing because it is a command in the book.

Matt.24.14 - And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.



Now to those who have the Scripture they should read the Words all over again to know what is required of each one.


So whether you have or believing in an invisible God, an immortal being, or an immortal God who becoming dead(mortal) for your sin....


It's important to note that whoever cares to believe it will be granted to him by the One whose word is Truth, Life and Light, tested and trusted all through the ages to the end of the age.

There is only One God and Jesus is His Son who died and resurrected that all men may be reconciled to the Father.

Stop contradicting your self. You claim it was people who brought the word ; immortal, deity etc but it wasn't people that suggested or wrote that Jesus died to reconcile us to same invisible God. Unless you are telling me a part of God who is immortal died.
( you have made a nonsense of his immortality if you ask me)
Like I said, nothing is 'absolute'

Maamin:


The same way you're creating classes of Gods and differentiating small letter g and capital letter G God some while ago.

Lol. That's the funny thing about religion. Each want to protect their doctrines

Tcwork:

We, I disagree with you, Yaweh is not Jehovah. Jesus Christ is Jehovah.
It was Jesus Christ (Jehovah ) that visited Moses and spoke with him face to face not Yahweh

They exchanged the glory of the immortal God for......lol(Romans 1: 22 & 25)

Jesus had a mortal body

This Roman philosophers were good at contradicting themselves lol

Tcwork:

We, I disagree with you, Yaweh is not Jehovah. Jesus Christ is Jehovah.
It was Jesus Christ (Jehovah ) that visited Moses and spoke with him face to face not Yahweh

Awww where do I start to brush and repair this your notion right now

Ok here..

Yahweh, the God of the Israelites, whose name was revealed to Moses as four Hebrew consonants (YHWH) called the tetragrammaton.
After the Babylonian Exile (6th century BCE), and especially from the 3rd century BCE on, Jews ceased to use the name Yahweh for two reasons. As Judaism became a universal rather than merely local religion, the more common noun Elohim, meaning “God,” tended to replace Yahweh to demonstrate the universal sovereignty of Israel’s God over all others. At the same time, the divine name was increasingly regarded as too sacred to be uttered; it was thus replaced vocally in the synagogue ritual by the Hebrew word Adonai (“My Lord”), which was translated as Kyrios (“Lord”) in the Septuagint, the Greek version of the Hebrew Scriptures.

The Masoretes, who from about the 6th to the 10th century worked to reproduce the original text of the Hebrew Bible, replaced the vowels of the name YHWH with the vowel signs of the Hebrew words Adonai or Elohim. Latin-speaking Christian scholars substituted the Y (which does not exist in Latin) with an I or a J (the latter of which exists in Latin as a variant form of I). Thus, the tetragrammaton became the artificial Latinized name Jehovah (JeHoWaH). As the use of the name spread throughout medieval Europe, the initial letter J was pronounced according to the local vernacular language rather than Latin.

The same applies to 'Jesus' = Iesus in Greek and 'Yahoshuwah' or 'Yeshua' in Hebrew.

John 6:46 King James Bible
Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father

John 6:46 New King James Version
Not that anyone has seen the Father, except He who is from God; He has seen the Father

Yahweh(Jehovah) is the father and that strikes out your position of saying that Jesus is same person as Jehovah

Jesus assume his father's position because he is one with the father in purpose and will John17:22

Tcwork:

I don't understand your question but you made me understand that even when the bible says, only saviour, other saviours where also chosen now why are you finding it hard to believe that Jesus Christ is also a true God.
Follow the precedence of the Bible

Now you are saying there are more than one true God?

You seem to be roping yourself one way or the other.

Maamin:


Now you are saying there are more than one true God?

You seem to be roping yourself one way or the other.

Hahahaha
He hasn't realized that yet

But all these stories are just philosophical ideas of people