BassReeves:


My answer is an emphatic No to all because all of the ten in your above list do not display the fruit of the Holy Spirit

Kleptomaniac steals another's property. Pedophilia has children sexual fantasy and sex with children. Nymphomaniac is about lust. Cannibal, eats the flesh of other human beings. Person with Pica endangers their life and well being with unhealthy their appetite. Nyctophobia flies in the face of 2 Timothy 1:7. Necrophilia is having sex without verbalised mutual consent. Zoophilia is beastiality and also equally having sex without vocalised mutual consent. Masochistic pleasure serves no higher purpose, its suffering for suffering sake. Fetishistic person is not spiritually healthy due to the idolatry slant etc attached to it.

Galatians 5:22-23
'22But the Holy Spirit produces this kind of fruit in our lives:
love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
23gentleness, and self-control.
There is no law against these things!'

It is by display of the fruit of the Holy Spirit, how a homosexual is known to be Spiritually healthy from not being, so a homosexual not having a kleptomaniac, paedophile, nymphomaniac or satyromaniac, cannibal, eating disorder, nyctophobia, necrophilia, zoophilia or beastiality, m masochism and fetishism tendency is spiritually healthy

Almost ALL the examples I gave (except Kleptomaniacs have a form of sexual deviations) from the normal and natural sexual relation of between two hetetosexual adults.

A MAD man is called insane NOT because he hurts anyone BUT because he acts DIFFERENTLY from the normal and natural manner expected from the predominant healthy adult person. There is no amount of redefinition of acceptable mental conditions that will requalify insanity as okay: is there?

So also is homosexuality! It is first a sexual deviation from the normal and natural manner expected from the predominant healthy adult person. And therefore, there is no amount of redefinition of acceptable sexual tendency that will requalify homosexuality as okay.

Is homosexuality a normal and natural manner expected from the predominant healthy adult person? If not, then it is an abberation AND a SICKNESS!

The same scripture forbidding having sex with animals forbid homosexuality
Lev 18:23:
"Neither shall you lie with any beast to defile yourself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion."

Are these scriptures below clear cases of homosexuality?
Lev 18:22:
"You shall not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Lev 20:13:
"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be on them."

Deu 23:17:
"There shall be no lesbian among the daughters of Israel, neither shall there be a homosexual among the sons of Israel."

1Kin 14:24:
"There was homosexuality throughout the land, and the people of Judah became as depraved as the heathen nations which the Lord drove out to make room for his people."

The bible calls them (homosexuals) ABOMINATION and PERVERSION!
Do you still have arguments against these scriptures?

jmoore:

Actually atheists are No.1 hypocrites. You should live according to nature. Law of nature 'Survival of the fittest'.

Stealing
Murder
Cheating
and many other stuff are not wrong in the animal kingdom. If you are an atheist, live like animals where there is no immorality and everything is acceptable.

Your amusing writings show that your understanding is that anyone whose view is different is an animal, and should live as such.
You clearly have no clue what atheism is.

shadeyinka:
Almost ALL the examples I gave (except Kleptomaniacs have a form of sexual deviations) from the normal and natural sexual relation of between two hetetosexual adults.

Each one of the examples you gave, by their conduct, one way or the other, violate and affect the good horizontal relationship and good vertical relationship, they are required to have with their neighbour and with God

shadeyinka:
A MAD man is called insane NOT because he hurts anyone BUT because he acts DIFFERENTLY from the normal and natural manner expected from the predominant healthy adult person. There is no amount of redefinition of acceptable mental conditions that will requalify insanity as okay: is there?

To love and be loved back in return is normal, natural and displaying the fruit of the Holy Spirit. Agape love, is love without conditions, it is a God love.

It is an insane, evil and wicked human being, who would want to deny a fellow human being, the fundamental human right, to love and be loved back in return.

shadeyinka:
So also is homosexuality! It is first a sexual deviation from the normal and natural manner expected from the predominant healthy adult person. And therefore, there is no amount of redefinition of acceptable sexual tendency that will requalify homosexuality as okay.

Sexuality is a spectrum and homosexuality, by virtue of evolutionary mechanisms, is normal and natural in the sexuality spectrum. Homosexuality, in biologically diverse ecosystems, is natural and not deviant.

shadeyinka:
Is homosexuality a normal and natural manner expected from the predominant healthy adult person? If not, then it is an abberation AND a SICKNESS!

There is absolutely no justification, for you, not to, for a moment, drop your hang on to carnality and look beyond your obsession with sex, to see that, what is expected from all healthy adult persons, whether heterosexual or homosexual adult persons, simply is, easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a loyal, caring, faithful, affectionate, committed, truthful, honest, loving, life-long lasting same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not doing anything harmful to an object, animal or neighbour. Move your focus away from the groin or crotch and shift it to the heart. Visualise and think, love.

shadeyinka:
The same scripture forbidding having sex with animals forbid homosexuality

Lev 18:23
"Neither shall you lie with any beast to defile yourself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion."

Are these scriptures below clear cases of homosexuality?
Lev 18:22
"You shall not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Lev 20:13
"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be on them."

Deu 23:17
"There shall be no lesbian among the daughters of Israel, neither shall there be a homosexual among the sons of Israel."

1Kin 14:24
"There was homosexuality throughout the land, and the people of Judah became as depraved as the heathen nations which the Lord drove out to make room for his people."

Each one of the above bible verses you have listed here above, from contextual clues, reveals that, it is homosexuality connected with sexual promiscuity, having multiple sexual partners, sacred sex, pagan orgastic temple sexual rites, male temple prostitutions, infidelity, sexual sacrifices done with the belief that it brings about divine favour, blessings or a new and higher level of spirituality, paid intercourse performed in the context of religious worship and as part of a form of fertility rite etc that is forbidden.

See, in that Deuteronomy 23:17 above, where you had the words 'lesbian' for daughters of Israel, and 'homosexual' for among the sons of Israel, both in bold, actually those two have the word, 'temple prostitute' showing in lexicons.

Instead of your disingenuous use of the words 'lesbian' for daughters of Israel and 'homosexual' for among the sons of Israel, the Hebrew original words used in Deuteronomy 23:17, actually are 'qedesha', meaning female temple prostitute and 'qadesh', meaning male temple prostitute, but you dishonestly decided that 'lesbian' and 'homosexual' suits your preconceived idea than 'female or male temple prostitute' does.

Why you settled for the big leap to turn prostitutes to mean 'lesbian' and 'homosexual' makes one suspicious of your motive and wonder what you aimed to gained from succumbing to perpetuate that lie.

shadeyinka:
The bible calls them (homosexuals) ABOMINATION and PERVERSION!

What the bible calls ABOMINATION and PERVERSION are, for example, ritualized homosexuality acts engaging in semen ingestion during male cult ceremonies of initiation into manhood or fatherhood, homosexuality connected with sexual promiscuity, having multiple sexual partners, sacred sex, pagan orgastic temple sexual rites, male temple prostitutions, infidelity, sexual sacrifices done with the belief that it brings about divine favour, blessings or a new and higher level of spirituality, paid intercourse performed in the context of religious worship and as part of a form of fertility rite etc

shadeyinka:
Do you still have arguments against these scriptures?

Arguments have to do with exchanging of ignorances. What I have for your misunderstood and misinterpreted scriptures, are facts, I can, all year long, have discussions sharing knowledge, that God has no qualms with romantic, decent, honest, honourable, hospitable, trustworthy, dependable, lovey-dovey, lovable, endearing, committed and permitted homosexuality.

BassReeves:
Each one of the examples you gave, by their conduct, one way or the other, violate and affect the good horizontal relationship and good vertical relationship, they are required to have with their neighbour and with God

To love and be loved back in return is normal, natural and displaying the fruit of the Holy Spirit. Agape love, is love without conditions, it is a God love.

It is an insane, evil and wicked human being, who would want to deny a fellow human being, the fundamental human right, to love and be loved back in return.

Sexuality is a spectrum and homosexuality, by virtue of evolutionary mechanisms, is normal and natural in the sexuality spectrum. Homosexuality, in biologically diverse ecosystems, is natural and not deviant.

Your definition of love may be skewed.

Love isn't the acceptance of everything/behaviour of a person.
Love is making a personal sacrifice to see to the all round wellbeing and prosperity of a person.

Love may involve discipline, correction, reprove, help, gifts BUT NOT any wanton indulgence!

Loving a homosexual isn't the same as accepting as normal his activity just like loving a mad man does not imply that madness is okay. A mad man needs the kind of love that will take him for medical help.

BassReeves:

There is absolutely no justification, for you, not to, for a moment, drop your hang on to carnality and look beyond your obsession with sex, to see that, what is expected from all healthy adult persons, whether heterosexual or homosexual adult persons, simply is, easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a loyal, caring, faithful, affectionate, committed, truthful, honest, loving, life-long lasting same-sex relationship, that has no detriment to another person, no betrayal of another person, or no cheating on another person, and not doing anything harmful to an object, animal or neighbour. Move your focus away from the groin or crotch and shift it to the heart. Visualise and think, love.

Each one of the above bible verses you have listed here above, from contextual clues reveals that it is homosexuality connected with sexual promiscuity, having multiple sexual partners, sacred sex, pagan orgastic temple sexual rites, male temple prostitutions, infidelity, sexual sacrifices done with the belief that it brings about divine favour, blessings or a new and higher level of spirituality, paid intercourse performed in the context of religious worship and as part of a form of fertility rite etc.

In Deuteronomy 23:17 above, where you had the words 'lesbian' for daughters of Israel, and 'homosexual' for among the sons of Israel, both in bold, actually had the word 'temple prostitute' in lexicon.

Instead of your disingenuous use of the words 'lesbian' for daughters of Israel and 'homosexual' for among the sons of Israel, the Hebrew original words used in Deuteronomy 23:17, actually are 'qedesha', meaning female temple prostitutes and 'qadesh', meaning male temple prostitutes.

Why you settled for the big leap to turn prostitutes to mean 'lesbian' and 'homosexual' makes one suspicious of your motive and wonder what you aimed to gained from succumbing to perpetuate that lie.

I was very careful to pick scripture where by CONTEXT, you couldn't infer prostitution (either heterosexual or homsexual) to.
Check carefully, there are other scriptures in deuteronomy that speaks strictly of Temple Prostitutes (male and female) or idolatry involving sex.

Check again please:
The same scripture forbidding having sex with animals forbid homosexuality
Lev 18:23:
"Neither shall you lie with any beast to defile yourself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion."

Are these scriptures below clear cases of homosexuality?
Lev 18:22:
"You shall not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Lev 20:13:
"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be on them."

Deu 23:17:
"There shall be no lesbian among the daughters of Israel, neither shall there be a homosexual among the sons of Israel."

1Kin 14:24:
"There was homosexuality throughout the land, and the people of Judah became as depraved as the heathen nations which the Lord drove out to make room for his people."

None of the scriptures above spoke of prostitution by context.

I can furnish you with scriptures that deal with prostitution if you want.

BassReeves:

What the bible calls ABOMINATION and PERVERSION are, for example, ritualized homosexuality acts engaging in semen ingestion during male cult ceremonies of initiation into manhood or fatherhood, homosexuality connected with sexual promiscuity, having multiple sexual partners, sacred sex, pagan orgastic temple sexual rites, male temple prostitutions, infidelity, sexual sacrifices done with the belief that it brings about divine favour, blessings or a new and higher level of spirituality, paid intercourse performed in the context of religious worship and as part of a form of fertility rite etc

Arguments have to do with exchanging of ignorances. What I have for your misunderstood and misinterpreted scriptures, are facts, I can, all year long, have discussions sharing knowledge, that God has no qualms with romantic, decent, honest, honourable, hospitable, trustworthy, dependable, lovey-dovey, lovable, endearing, committed and permitted homosexuality.

Homosexuality is a MENTAL disease just as there are several other forms of sexual perversions: the infected should go for deliverance from the spirit of homosexuality.

I am sure that having sex with animals has nothing to do with temple worship or prostitution!
Lev 18:23:
"Neither shall you lie with any beast to defile yourself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion."

If you won't force meanings into this scripture, why force meanings into others.

Like I said, I deliberately left out new testament quotes and any scripture that speaks of idolatry or prostitution whether heterosexual or homosexual. If you still disagree, we can check the scriptures with context in view.

shadeyinka:
Your definition of love may be skewed.

1 Corinthians 13:5
1If I could speak all the languages of earth and of angels,
but didn’t love others, I would only be a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.
2If I had the gift of prophecy, and if I understood all of God’s secret plans and possessed all knowledge,
and if I had such faith that I could move mountains, but didn’t love others, I would be nothing.
3If I gave everything I have to the poor and even sacrificed my body, I could boast about it;
but if I didn’t love others, I would have gained nothing.
4Love is patient and kind. Love is not jealous or boastful or proud
5or rude. It does not demand its own way. It is not irritable, and it keeps no record of being wronged.
6It does not rejoice about injustice but rejoices whenever the truth wins out.
7Love never gives up, never loses faith, is always hopeful, and endures through every circumstance.
8Prophecy and speaking in unknown languagesb and special knowledge will become useless.
But love will last forever!
9Now our knowledge is partial and incomplete, and even the gift of prophecy reveals only part of the whole picture!
10But when the time of perfection comes, these partial things will become useless.

My definition of love is topnotch. My definition of love is God. God is love. Love is God. To love, is aspiring to be like God because God, quintessentially speaking, is love.

When sexuality fades and forever goes away. What remains? What is it, that is the greatest virtue and is eternal?

shadeyinka:
Love isn't the acceptance of everything/behaviour of a person.

Love does not discriminate. Love has no prejudice. Love does not pretend, does not lie, does not harm, does not injure, does not betray etc. Love, is no respecter of sex or sexuality. Where unconditional love is required, give and receive the unconditional love, warts, pimples, everything and all.

shadeyinka:
Love is making a personal sacrifice to see to the all round wellbeing and prosperity of a person.

Love may involve discipline, correction, reprove, help, gifts BUT NOT any wanton indulgence!

Loving a homosexual isn't the same as accepting as normal his activity just like loving a mad man does not imply that madness is okay. A mad man needs the kind of love that will take him for medical help.

A mad was cure by Jesus. A homosexual was given one of the highest tribute in Israel by Jesus, now why not commit yourself and tell what activity of a homosexual is it, that is not normal and natural?

Before you give your answer, let me remind you that, I earlier did share that, sexuality is a spectrum and homosexuality, by virtue of evolutionary mechanisms, is normal and natural in the sexuality spectrum. Homosexuality, in biologically diverse ecosystems, is natural and not deviant.

shadeyinka:
I was very careful to pick scripture where by CONTEXT, you couldn't infer prostitution (either heterosexual or homsexual) to.

No matter how careful you try to be, no matter how defensive to try to do all this, I am always ten steps ahead of you and for the simple reason, that, I am what I am, study and do my best to present myself to God approved, a workman who has no reason to be ashamed, who accurately and correctly handles the word of truth, as well as skillfully rightly divides the word of the truth

shadeyinka:
Check carefully, there are other scriptures in deuteronomy that speaks strictly of Temple Prostitutes (male and female) or idolatry involving sex.

Each one of those verses you weaponised as ammunition to fire at homosexuality with, all had one thing if not all to do with homosexuality associated with promiscuity, infidelity, extra marital affair, betrayal of trust, disloyalty etc

shadeyinka:
Check again please:
The same scripture forbidding having sex with animals forbid homosexuality
Lev 18:23:
"Neither shall you lie with any beast to defile yourself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion."

This is a verse dealing with bestiality and not at all perverse homosexuality. Don't go off on a tangent please.

shadeyinka:
Are these scriptures below clear cases of homosexuality?
Lev 18:22:
"You shall not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Lev 20:13:
"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be on them."

Deu 23:17:
"There shall be no lesbian among the daughters of Israel, neither shall there be a homosexual among the sons of Israel."

1Kin 14:24:
"There was homosexuality throughout the land, and the people of Judah became as depraved as the heathen nations which the Lord drove out to make room for his people."

None of the scriptures above spoke of prostitution by context.

Why not do a double take because when you do, you will find out how I made it known to you that it was dishonest of you, to use of the words 'lesbian' for daughters of Israel and 'homosexual' for among the sons of Israel, when actually the Hebrew original words used in Deuteronomy 23:17, are 'qedesha', meaning female temple prostitutes and 'qadesh', meaning male temple prostitutes.

shadeyinka:
I can furnish you with scriptures that deal with prostitution if you want.

Everywhere what would call homosexual or homosexuality and have it demonised, is actually homosexual or homosexuality associated with associated with promiscuity, infidelity, extra marital affair, betrayal of trust, disloyalty, having multiple sexual partners, sacred sex, pagan orgastic temple sexual rites, male temple prostitutions, infidelity, sexual sacrifices done with the belief that it brings about divine favour, blessings or a new and higher level of spirituality, paid intercourse performed in the context of religious worship and as part of a form of fertility rite etc

shadeyinka:
Homosexuality is a MENTAL disease just as there are several other forms of sexual perversions: the infected should go for deliverance from the spirit of homosexuality.

Homosexuality is a MENTAL disease according to the quasi-gospel of shadeyinka.

Leo Eric Varadka, is the Tánaiste, meaning the deputy head of the government of Ireland and thus holder of its second-most senior office. He previously served as Taoiseach, meaning leader, chief, the prime minister or head of government of Ireland, Minister for Defence from 2017 to 2020, Minister for Social Protection from 2016 to 2017, Minister for Health from 2014 to 2016 and Minister for Transport, Tourism and Sport from 2011 to 2014.

If homosexuality shadeyinka, really is a MENTAL disease, I wonder how the Republic of Ireland gave the reins of power to this homosexual of a person, serve them and even to be their prime minister for little over a three years period. How come his mental facilities were not questioned or why wasn't he seen to have a mental disease.

shadeyinka:
I am sure that having sex with animals has nothing to do with temple worship or prostitution!
Lev 18:23:
"Neither shall you lie with any beast to defile yourself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion."

You are not making any point here, all you are doing with Leviticus 18:23 is clutching at straws

shadeyinka:
If you won't force meanings into this scripture, why force meanings into others.

Not everyone is like you squeezing and forcing in words that are in variance to their Hebrew original words

shadeyinka:
Like I said, I deliberately left out new testament quotes and any scripture that speaks of idolatry or prostitution whether heterosexual or homosexual. If you still disagree, we can check the scriptures with context in view.

You still are oblivious to the facts that all scripture, whether the reference are in the old testament or new testament, where you flare it up as homosexual or homosexuality, each is homosexual or homosexuality that has association, with promiscuity, infidelity, extra marital affair, betrayal of trust, disloyalty, having multiple sexual partners, sacred sex, pagan orgastic temple sexual rites, male temple prostitutions, infidelity, sexual sacrifices done with the belief that it brings about divine favour, blessings or a new and higher level of spirituality, paid intercourse performed in the context of religious worship and as part of a form of fertility rite etc.

The proof of the pudding, is in the eating. Talk is cheap. If you are up to the task and you want to test this, bring out all your scriptures, old testament, new testament even throw in the kitchen sink for good measure and let us put them all under a microscope to see, if not, each one of them scriptures have anything to do with, at least one, two or three, if not, all of the vices, I have already listed above.

The dude above lacks knowledge on definition of love.

If you love someone, you correct the person.

It is hate that will make you see a fellow human being walking into danger and you keep applauding him thinking you love him.

Homosexuality is evil. If you love someone who is into homosexuality, then tell the person the truth. The truth that homosexuality is wrong, evil, has no place in human civilization and a sign of mental disorder.

jmoore:
The dude above lacks knowledge on definition of love.

If you love someone, you correct the person.

It is hate that will make you see a fellow human being walking into danger and you keep applauding him thinking you love him.

Homosexuality is evil. If you love someone who is into homosexuality, then tell the person the truth. The truth that homosexuality is wrong, evil, has no place in human civilization and a sign of mental disorder.

This dude here hadn't the courtesy to quote me, hasn't the boldness to quote me and so retorted to cowardly throwing weak jabs.

If you love someone, you will look beyond the person, look beyond the sex.

It is evil and hate that will make you see a human being selflessly and unconditionally love another fellow human being right on to the point of death and you are sold out in preventing this agape love.

Each time you asked to tell what exactly is evil in homosexuality, you aren't able to come up with answers.

If you love another of same sex as you, that is you are into lesbianism or homosexuality, then what is the truth you should know. The truth you should know is that homosexuality, just as with heterosexuality, is wrong, evil, has no place in human civilization and is a sign of mental disorder, whenever and each time it is involved in idolatry practices, idolatry ritual, promiscuity, prostitution, infidelity, unfaithfulness, sexually cheating on partners, having multiple sexual partners, engaging in random sexual orgies etc

jmoore:
The dude above lacks knowledge on definition of love.

If you love someone, you correct the person.

It is hate that will make you see a fellow human being walking into danger and you keep applauding him thinking you love him.

Homosexuality is evil. If you love someone who is into homosexuality, then tell the person the truth. The truth that homosexuality is wrong, evil, has no place in human civilization and a sign of mental disorder.

I am just glad people like you with outdated ideas are fast becoming a minority and will have waning influence in the world. You can't stop it, homosexuality will be normalised the world over.

LordReed:


I am just glad people like you with outdated ideas are fast becoming a minority and will have waning influence in the world. You can't stop it, homosexuality will be normalised the world over.

Yeyenikov. Homosexuality must be a great gain, benefit and advancement for your father the devil.

LordReed:


I am just glad people like you with outdated ideas are fast becoming a minority and will have waning influence in the world. You can't stop it, homosexuality will be normalised the world over.

El Elohe Yahshrael!

Deuteronomy 32: Listen, you heavens, and I will speak; hear, you earth, the words of my mouth. 2 Let my teaching fall like rain and my words descend like dew, like showers on new grass, like abundant rain on tender plants. 3 I will proclaim the name of YHVH. Oh, praise the greatness of our God! 4 He is the Rock, his works are perfect, and all his ways are just. A faithful God who does no wrong, upright and just is he. 5 They are corrupt and not his children; to their shame they are a warped and crooked generation. 6 Is this the way you repay the YHVH, you foolish and unwise people? Is he not your Father, your Creator, who made you and formed you?


Ehehehehe!

The homosexuality apologist.

Bordering on your assertions above, Reed, I want you to consider the Scriptures below and try to grasp their meaning.

Isaiah 37: 26 “Have you not heard? Long ago I ordained it. In days of old I planned it; now I have brought it to pass, that you have turned fortified cities into piles of stone. 27 Their people, drained of power, are dismayed and put to shame. They are like plants in the field, like tender green shoots, like grass sprouting on the roof, scorched before it grows up.

Matthew 24:9 “Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. 10 At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. 12 Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, 13 but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved.


Isaiah 59: 14 So justice is driven back, and righteousness stands at a distance; truth has stumbled in the streets, honesty cannot enter.
15 Truth is nowhere to be found, and whoever shuns evil becomes a prey. YHVH looked and was displeased that there was no justice.


Isaiah 57:3 “But you—come here, you children of a sorceress, you offspring of adulterers and prostitutes! 4 Who are you mocking? At whom do you sneer and stick out your tongue? Are you not a brood of rebels, the offspring of liars? 5 You burn with lust among the oaks and under every spreading tree; you sacrifice your children in the ravines and under the overhanging crags.
6 The idols among the smooth stones of the ravines are your portion; indeed, they are your lot. Yes, to them you have poured out drink offerings and offered grain offerings. In view of all this, should I relent? 7 You have made your bed on a high and lofty hill; there you went up to offer your sacrifices. 8 Behind your doors and your doorposts you have put your pagan symbols. Forsaking me, you uncovered your bed, you climbed into it and opened it wide;
you made a pact with those whose beds you love, and you looked with lust on their naked bodies.

Now, let's look at the key points of your comment:

---- outdated ideas.
---- fast becoming a minority.
---- waning influence in the world.
---- homosexuality will be normalized the world over.

Everything you said above have been sanctioned by the Creator to happen before he pours his wrath on the world and its people.


The Truth of the Creator of the ends of the Earth will be considered outdated and those who tenaciously hold on to him considered maniacs, threats, uncivilized, etc.

As the Day of the Judgement of the Creator on this world approaches, the number of the righteous people will become fewer and fewer.

Since the majority of people in the world will be without love for the Truth, the influence of the Righteous in the "affairs" of the world will most certainly wane. However, be sure of this, Reed, as far as this current Earth still exists, as long as the natural phenomena of this current Earth are concerned, the Righteous will continue to exercise unquenchable and unfathomable influence on them. Here, there is no room for negotiation. The Righteous will continue to be able to make everywhere either bearable or unbearable for everyone, if and whenever necessary. They don't have the time to negotiate with the abominable homosexuals in that regard.

Sin will be the downfall of this world. Homosexuality is the leader of the pack in that regard. How else will this world be destroyed if its cup is not full? How else will the cup of this world be full if homosexuality is not accepted the world over? So, Reed, you said nothing new. These things were stated thousands of years ago.

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu Yah!

LordReed:


I am just glad people like you with outdated ideas are fast becoming a minority and will have waning influence in the world. You can't stop it, homosexuality will be normalised the world over.

Your delusion is amazing.

"Normalized the world over". That's not a surprise. State sponsored terrorism have been made legal in many countries via legal abortion. Therefore, worst laws would be passed in the future.

Humans who have sex with animals will start voicing their own sexuality.

Minority is not synonymous with being right. You can partake in foolish behavior with the majority.

Many things have been normalized in this world due the foolishness of some human beings.

Hope you produce human beings through homosexuality?

The only one with outdated idea is one that supports homosexuality!!
Homosexuality is death!!

elated177:
El Elohe Yahshrael!

Deuteronomy 32: Listen, you heavens, and I will speak; hear, you earth, the words of my mouth. 2 Let my teaching fall like rain and my words descend like dew, like showers on new grass, like abundant rain on tender plants. 3 I will proclaim the name of YHVH. Oh, praise the greatness of our God! 4 He is the Rock, his works are perfect, and all his ways are just. A faithful God who does no wrong, upright and just is he. 5 They are corrupt and not his children; to their shame they are a warped and crooked generation. 6 Is this the way you repay the YHVH, you foolish and unwise people? Is he not your Father, your Creator, who made you and formed you?

Ehehehehe!

The homosexuality apologist.

You the escapist tactician, who can't say what is evil in homosexuality that isnt evil in heterosexuality is busy here laughing your head off and throwing your weight about. Ehehehehe! You!

elated177:
Bordering on your assertions above, Reed, I want you to consider the Scriptures below and try to grasp their meaning.

Isaiah 37: 26 “Have you not heard? Long ago I ordained it. In days of old I planned it; now I have brought it to pass, that you have turned fortified cities into piles of stone. 27 Their people, drained of power, are dismayed and put to shame. They are like plants in the field, like tender green shoots, like grass sprouting on the roof, scorched before it grows up.

Matthew 24:9 “Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. 10 At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. 12 Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, 13 but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved.

Isaiah 59: 14 So justice is driven back, and righteousness stands at a distance; truth has stumbled in the streets, honesty cannot enter.
15 Truth is nowhere to be found, and whoever shuns evil becomes a prey. YHVH looked and was displeased that there was no justice.

Isaiah 57:3 “But you—come here, you children of a sorceress, you offspring of adulterers and prostitutes! 4 Who are you mocking? At whom do you sneer and stick out your tongue? Are you not a brood of rebels, the offspring of liars? 5 You burn with lust among the oaks and under every spreading tree; you sacrifice your children in the ravines and under the overhanging crags.
6 The idols among the smooth stones of the ravines are your portion; indeed, they are your lot. Yes, to them you have poured out drink offerings and offered grain offerings. In view of all this, should I relent? 7 You have made your bed on a high and lofty hill; there you went up to offer your sacrifices. 8 Behind your doors and your doorposts you have put your pagan symbols. Forsaking me, you uncovered your bed, you climbed into it and opened it wide;
you made a pact with those whose beds you love, and you looked with lust on their naked bodies.

Now, let's look at the key points of your comment:

---- outdated ideas.
---- fast becoming a minority.
---- waning influence in the world.
---- homosexuality will be normalized the world over.

Everything you said above have been sanctioned by the Creator to happen before he pours his wrath on the world and its people.


The Truth of the Creator of the ends of the Earth will be considered outdated and those who tenaciously hold on to him considered maniacs, threats, uncivilized, etc.

As the Day of the Judgement of the Creator on this world approaches, the number of the righteous people will become fewer and fewer.

Since the majority of people in the world will be without love for the Truth, the influence of the Righteous in the "affairs" of the world will most certainly wane. However, be sure if this, Reed, as far as this current Earth still exists, as long as the natural phenomena of this current Earth are concerned, the Righteous will continue to exercise unquenchable and unfathomable influence on them. Here, there is no room for negotiation. The Righteous will continue to be able to make everywhere either bearable or unbearable for everyone if and whenever necessary. They don't have the time to negotiate with the abominable homosexuals in that regard.

Sin will be the downfall of this world. Homosexuality is the leader of the pack in that regard. How else will this world be destroyed if it cup is not full? How else will the cup of this world be full if homosexuality is not accepted the world over? So, Reed, you said nothing new. These things were stated thousands of years ago.

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu Yah!

Homosexuality, in bygone bible earliest days was normalized the world over. One of the highest tribute Jesus Christ gave anyone in Israel, was to a homosexual. I am sure, as usual, you are oblivious of this fact.

Your ignorant, outdated and bad learned ideas about accepted and welcome homosexuality, are fast becoming a minority and will stop in waning influence in the world. At your own peril, you stand in the way to stop it.

DappaD is a genius!

Surely this is Muttleylaff, you changed your profile yet you can't hide your feelings!

BassReeves:
You the escapist tactician, who can't say what is evil in homosexuality that isnt evil in heterosexuality is busy here laughing your head off and throwing your weight about. Ehehehehe! You!

Homosexuality, in bygone bible earliest days was normalized the world over. One of the highest tribute Jesus Christ gave anyone in Israel, was to a homosexual. I am sure, as usual, you are oblivious of this fact.

Your ignorant, outdated and bad learned ideas about accepted and welcome homosexuality, are fast becoming a minority and will stop in waning influence in the world. At your own peril, you stand in the way to stop it.

MaxInDHouse:
DappaD is a genius!

Surely this is Muttleylaff, you changed your profile yet you can't hide your feelings!

You and DappaD are both dunces because you both know enough, to think you are both right, but not enough to know you are both wrong.

I guess you haven't heard that, imitation is the sincerest and highest form of flattery or that great minds, with feelings that are similar, think alike

No wahala Sir!

BassReeves:
You and DappaD are both dunces because you both know enough, to think you are both right, but not enough to know you are both wrong.

I guess you haven't heard that, imitation is the sincerest and highest form of flattery or that great minds, with feelings that are similar, think alike

MaxInDHouse:
No wahala Sir!

E shock you. Shock you that you are red herring bone idle wrong.

I don't think anything is at stake on this Sir!

BassReeves:

E shock you. Shock you that you are red herring bone idle wrong.

MaxInDHouse:
I don't think anything is at stake on this Sir!

The sooner you realise that nothing is at stake on this, the better for you.

Now that you are on the thread, why not enumerate what is the evil in homosexuality or you rather do a disappearing act and sharply exit as quickly as you jumped on the thread

Nothing is at stake whether you're Muttleylaff or not and as for your homosexuality stuff you and your Yahushua brother can sort it out between yourselves i'm not interested!

BassReeves:
The sooner you realise that nothing is at stake on this, the better for you.
Now that you are on the thread, why not enumerate what is the evil in homosexuality or you rather do a disappearing act and sharply exit as quickly as you jumped on the thread

jmoore:

Your delusion is amazing.

"Normalized the world over". That's not a surprise. State sponsored terrorism have been made legal in many countries via legal abortion. Therefore, worst laws would be passed in the future.

Humans who have sex with animals will start voicing their own sexuality.

Minority is not synonymous with being right. You can partake in foolish behavior with the majority.

Many things have been normalized in this world due the foolishness of some human beings.

Hope you produce human beings through homosexuality?

The only one with outdated idea is one that supports homosexuality!!
Homosexuality is death!!

You simply proved you are the deluded one by contradicting yourself. LoL!

elated177:


El Elohe Yahshrael!

Deuteronomy 32: Listen, you heavens, and I will speak; hear, you earth, the words of my mouth. 2 Let my teaching fall like rain and my words descend like dew, like showers on new grass, like abundant rain on tender plants. 3 I will proclaim the name of YHVH. Oh, praise the greatness of our God! 4 He is the Rock, his works are perfect, and all his ways are just. A faithful God who does no wrong, upright and just is he. 5 They are corrupt and not his children; to their shame they are a warped and crooked generation. 6 Is this the way you repay the YHVH, you foolish and unwise people? Is he not your Father, your Creator, who made you and formed you?


Ehehehehe!

The homosexuality apologist.

Bordering on your assertions above, Reed, I want you to consider the Scriptures below and try to grasp their meaning.

Isaiah 37: 26 “Have you not heard? Long ago I ordained it. In days of old I planned it; now I have brought it to pass, that you have turned fortified cities into piles of stone. 27 Their people, drained of power, are dismayed and put to shame. They are like plants in the field, like tender green shoots, like grass sprouting on the roof, scorched before it grows up.

Matthew 24:9 “Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. 10 At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. 12 Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, 13 but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved.


Isaiah 59: 14 So justice is driven back, and righteousness stands at a distance; truth has stumbled in the streets, honesty cannot enter.
15 Truth is nowhere to be found, and whoever shuns evil becomes a prey. YHVH looked and was displeased that there was no justice.


Isaiah 57:3 “But you—come here, you children of a sorceress, you offspring of adulterers and prostitutes! 4 Who are you mocking? At whom do you sneer and stick out your tongue? Are you not a brood of rebels, the offspring of liars? 5 You burn with lust among the oaks and under every spreading tree; you sacrifice your children in the ravines and under the overhanging crags.
6 The idols among the smooth stones of the ravines are your portion; indeed, they are your lot. Yes, to them you have poured out drink offerings and offered grain offerings. In view of all this, should I relent? 7 You have made your bed on a high and lofty hill; there you went up to offer your sacrifices. 8 Behind your doors and your doorposts you have put your pagan symbols. Forsaking me, you uncovered your bed, you climbed into it and opened it wide;
you made a pact with those whose beds you love, and you looked with lust on their naked bodies.

Now, let's look at the key points of your comment:

---- outdated ideas.
---- fast becoming a minority.
---- waning influence in the world.
---- homosexuality will be normalized the world over.

Everything you said above have been sanctioned by the Creator to happen before he pours his wrath on the world and its people.


The Truth of the Creator of the ends of the Earth will be considered outdated and those who tenaciously hold on to him considered maniacs, threats, uncivilized, etc.

As the Day of the Judgement of the Creator on this world approaches, the number of the righteous people will become fewer and fewer.

Since the majority of people in the world will be without love for the Truth, the influence of the Righteous in the "affairs" of the world will most certainly wane. However, be sure of this, Reed, as far as this current Earth still exists, as long as the natural phenomena of this current Earth are concerned, the Righteous will continue to exercise unquenchable and unfathomable influence on them. Here, there is no room for negotiation. The Righteous will continue to be able to make everywhere either bearable or unbearable for everyone, if and whenever necessary. They don't have the time to negotiate with the abominable homosexuals in that regard.

Sin will be the downfall of this world. Homosexuality is the leader of the pack in that regard. How else will this world be destroyed if its cup is not full? How else will the cup of this world be full if homosexuality is not accepted the world over? So, Reed, you said nothing new. These things were stated thousands of years ago.

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu Yah!

I said nothing new but you wrote a lengthy rejoiner, why?

LordReed:


You simply proved you are the deluded one by contradicting yourself. LoL!

Contradiction? Seems that's a new word you don't know when to use


I will start taking you seriously the day you as a man will impregnate your man. Until then, homosexuality is insanity!

jmoore:

Contradiction? Seems that's a new word you don't know when to use


I will start taking you seriously the day you as a man will impregnate your man. Until then, homosexuality is insanity!

Yup, you contradicted yourself. Do you need me to point it out to you or has your brain woken up yet?

LoL, homosexuals are busy having children while you sit in whatever cave you live in typing archaic claptrap.

MaxInDHouse:
Nothing is at stake whether you're Muttleylaff or not and as for your homosexuality stuff you and your Yahushua brother can sort it out between yourselves i'm not interested!

You know that the mahogany table you are standing on, if rocked and when shaken, your silicone pad inserts will drop off and fall on the table, so it's better, you make a yellow bellied, no courage to successfully hold a corner, rapid speedy exit.

No wahala Muttleylaff, NO WAHALA!

BassReeves:
You know that the mahogany table you are standing on, if rocked and when shaken, your silicone pad inserts will drop off and fall on the table, so it's better, you make a yellow bellied, no courage to successfully hold a corner, rapid speedy exit.

MaxInDHouse:
No wahala Muttleylaff, NO WAHALA!

What a degenerate.

Oyinbo too much qua!

BassReeves:

What a degenerate.

MaxInDHouse:
Oyinbo too much qua!

I think you must be bored and that from being restless

LordReed:


Yup, you contradicted yourself. Do you need me to point it out to you or has your brain woken up yet?

LoL, homosexuals are busy having children while you sit in whatever cave you live in typing archaic claptrap.

Obviously your brain is too SLOW. Might take I billion light years for you to process my comments.


Homosexuals having children? Did the children come through a heterosexual combination or homosexual combination?

The hypocrisy is really ridiculous. A gay man will leave his gay partner and look for a woman to impregnate. Why can't he impregnate his man? Foolishness unlimited.



Heterosexual combination: Sperm + Egg = Baby

Homosexual Man : Sperm + Faeces = Fuel that powers homosexual advocates.

LordReed:


I said nothing new but you wrote a lengthy rejoiner, why?

Ehehehehe!

For some reasons. And just in case they are not obvious, let me highlight just two.

Each time you, Reed, try to ridicule the Truth of the Mighty One of Jacob, my Mighty One, you will be easily put in your place.

To, for the umpteenth time, state the unimpeachable fact that you have ahụichimitis.

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu Yah!

OK Sir!

BassReeves:
I think you must be bored and that from being restless

elated177:


Ehehehehe!

For some reasons. And just in case they are not obvious, let me highlight just two.

Each time you, Reed, try to ridicule the Truth of the Mighty One of Jacob, my Mighty One, you will be easily put in your place.

To, for the umpteenth time, state the unimpeachable fact that you have ahụichimitis.

El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu Yah!

LMFAO! Gosh you do know how to dream.