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Was Ezra Believed By The Jews To Be The Son Of God? by tintingz(m): 7:11am On Jan 27, 2021
The Qur'an claim to be divine but it seems it's not as no where in the Jewish books or beliefs says that Ezra is son of God.

[Qur'an 9:30] The Jews say: "Ezra ('Uzayr) is Allah's son, "29 and the Christians say: "The Messiah is the son of Allah." These are merely verbal assertions in imitation of the sayings of those unbelievers who preceded them.30 May Allah ruin them. How do they turn away from the Truth?

Can Muslims explain how or where did Muhammed heard or saw that the Jews believe Ezra is the son of God?

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Re: Was Ezra Believed By The Jews To Be The Son Of God? by LordReed(m): 8:45am On Jan 27, 2021
tintingz:
The Qur'an claim to be divine but it seems it's not as no where in the Jewish books or beliefs says that Ezra is son of God.

[Qur'an 9:30] The Jews say: "Ezra ('Uzayr) is Allah's son, "29 and the Christians say: "The Messiah is the son of Allah." These are merely verbal assertions in imitation of the sayings of those unbelievers who preceded them.30 May Allah ruin them. How do they turn away from the Truth?

Can Muslims explain how or where did Muhammed heard or saw that the Jews believe Ezra is the son of God?

Anyone who thinks religion is synonymous with truth is in for a shock.

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Re: Was Ezra Believed By The Jews To Be The Son Of God? by haekymbahd(m): 1:38pm On Jan 27, 2021
tintingz:
The Qur'an claim to be divine but it seems it's not as no where in the Jewish books or beliefs says that Ezra is son of God.

[Qur'an 9:30] The Jews say: "Ezra ('Uzayr) is Allah's son, "29 and the Christians say: "The Messiah is the son of Allah." These are merely verbal assertions in imitation of the sayings of those unbelievers who preceded them.30 May Allah ruin them. How do they turn away from the Truth?

Can Muslims explain how or where did Muhammed heard or saw that the Jews believe Ezra is the son of God?
Generally the jews do not beleive that Ezra was the son of God intact it was the minority section of them who believed so..

What happened their is synonymous to Christian view of Jesus of which some believed he is God while other believe he is not God... Now majority are trinitarians while minority are Unitarian...

What I am trying to say is some sect of Jews then called Ezra son of God


Tafsir on the verse

"Or, did you see, such as he, Ezra (‘Uzayr), who (the kāf of ka’lladhī, ‘such as he who’, is extra) passed by a city, namely, the Holy House [sc. Jerusalem], riding on an ass and carrying with him a basket of figs and a cup of juice, [a city] that was fallen down, collapsed, upon its turrets, its roof tops: after Nebuchadnezzar had destroyed it; he said, ‘How (annā means kayfa, ‘how’) shall God give life to this now that it is dead?’, challenging the power of the exalted One, so God made him die, and remain dead for, a hundred years, then he raised him up, brought him back to life to show him how this could be done; He, God, said, ‘How long have you tarried?’, been here?; he said, ‘I have tarried a day, or part of a day’, because he fell asleep before noon, and was made dead and then brought back to life again at sunset, and thus he thought it was a day’s sleep; He said, ‘Nay; you have tarried a hundred years. Look at your food, the figs, and drink, the cup of juice, it has not spoiled, despite the length of time (the final hā’ of yatasannah, ‘to spoil’, is said to belong to the original root, s-n-h; but it is also said to be silent, in which case the root would be s-n-y; a variant reading omits the final hā’); and look at your ass, how it is, and he saw that it had died, and all that remained were its withered white bones. We did this so that you would know and, so that We would make you a sign, of [the truth of] the Resurrection, for the people. And look at the bones, of the ass, how We shall set them up, how We shall raise them back to life (nunshiruhā, or nanshiruhā, derived from the two expressions, nashara and anshara; a variant reading has nunshizuhā, meaning ‘How We shall move it and make it stand’); and then clothe them with flesh’, and when he looked at it, he saw that [the bones] had been reconstituted and clothed with flesh, and that the Spirit had been breathed into it, making it bray. So, when it was made clear to him, as a result of witnessing it, he said, ‘I know (a variant reading for a‘lam, ‘I know’, has [the imperative] i‘lam, ‘know!’, thus making it a command from God), with the knowledge of direct vision, that God has power over all things’."
(QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 259)

"Yet they ascribe to God (li’Llāhi, the indirect object) as associates (shurakā’a, the direct object, which is substituted by [the following, al-jinn]) the jinn, since they obey them by worshipping graven images, even though He created them: so how can they be associates? And they falsely impute to Him (read kharaqū or kharraqū), that is, they invent, sons and daughters without any knowledge, saying, Ezra (‘Uzayr) is the son of God, and the angels are the daughters of God. Glory be to Him — an affirmation of His transcendence — and exalted be He above what they describe!, of Him having a child."
(QS. Al-An'aam 6: Verse 100)

* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com

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Re: Was Ezra Believed By The Jews To Be The Son Of God? by advocatejare(m): 2:19pm On Jan 27, 2021
haekymbahd:
Generally the jews do not beleive that Ezra was the son of God intact it was the minority section of them who believed so..

What I am trying to say is some sect of Jews then called Ezra son of God
What is the name of this sect of Jews that believed that Ezra is the Son of God?

Tell us
Re: Was Ezra Believed By The Jews To Be The Son Of God? by tintingz(m): 5:27pm On Jan 27, 2021
LordReed:


Anyone who thinks religion is synonymous with truth is in for a shock.
Lol. grin

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Re: Was Ezra Believed By The Jews To Be The Son Of God? by tintingz(m): 5:33pm On Jan 27, 2021
haekymbahd:
Generally the jews do not beleive that Ezra was the son of God intact it was the minority section of them who believed so..

What happened their is synonymous to Christian view of Jesus of which some believed he is God while other believe he is not God... Now majority are trinitarians while minority are Unitarian...

What I am trying to say is some sect of Jews then called Ezra son of God


Tafsir on the verse

"Or, did you see, such as he, Ezra (‘Uzayr), who (the kāf of ka’lladhī, ‘such as he who’, is extra) passed by a city, namely, the Holy House [sc. Jerusalem], riding on an ass and carrying with him a basket of figs and a cup of juice, [a city] that was fallen down, collapsed, upon its turrets, its roof tops: after Nebuchadnezzar had destroyed it; he said, ‘How (annā means kayfa, ‘how’) shall God give life to this now that it is dead?’, challenging the power of the exalted One, so God made him die, and remain dead for, a hundred years, then he raised him up, brought him back to life to show him how this could be done; He, God, said, ‘How long have you tarried?’, been here?; he said, ‘I have tarried a day, or part of a day’, because he fell asleep before noon, and was made dead and then brought back to life again at sunset, and thus he thought it was a day’s sleep; He said, ‘Nay; you have tarried a hundred years. Look at your food, the figs, and drink, the cup of juice, it has not spoiled, despite the length of time (the final hā’ of yatasannah, ‘to spoil’, is said to belong to the original root, s-n-h; but it is also said to be silent, in which case the root would be s-n-y; a variant reading omits the final hā’); and look at your ass, how it is, and he saw that it had died, and all that remained were its withered white bones. We did this so that you would know and, so that We would make you a sign, of [the truth of] the Resurrection, for the people. And look at the bones, of the ass, how We shall set them up, how We shall raise them back to life (nunshiruhā, or nanshiruhā, derived from the two expressions, nashara and anshara; a variant reading has nunshizuhā, meaning ‘How We shall move it and make it stand’); and then clothe them with flesh’, and when he looked at it, he saw that [the bones] had been reconstituted and clothed with flesh, and that the Spirit had been breathed into it, making it bray. So, when it was made clear to him, as a result of witnessing it, he said, ‘I know (a variant reading for a‘lam, ‘I know’, has [the imperative] i‘lam, ‘know!’, thus making it a command from God), with the knowledge of direct vision, that God has power over all things’."
(QS. Al-Baqara 2: Verse 259)

"Yet they ascribe to God (li’Llāhi, the indirect object) as associates (shurakā’a, the direct object, which is substituted by [the following, al-jinn]) the jinn, since they obey them by worshipping graven images, even though He created them: so how can they be associates? And they falsely impute to Him (read kharaqū or kharraqū), that is, they invent, sons and daughters without any knowledge, saying, Ezra (‘Uzayr) is the son of God, and the angels are the daughters of God. Glory be to Him — an affirmation of His transcendence — and exalted be He above what they describe!, of Him having a child."
(QS. Al-An'aam 6: Verse 100)

* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com

This is so weak that it has no reliable independent reference. Good that you said "generally" the Jews don't believe Ezra is God's son. But...

Can you show us In the Jewish scriptures where it said Ezra Is the son of god? And also the name of this minority jewish sect?

I wonder why the Jews themselves are not aware of this sect.
Re: Was Ezra Believed By The Jews To Be The Son Of God? by IMAliyu(m): 5:34pm On Jan 27, 2021
tintingz:
Lol. grin
Welcome back man, this side has been kinda boring without you.

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Re: Was Ezra Believed By The Jews To Be The Son Of God? by tintingz(m): 5:41pm On Jan 27, 2021
IMAliyu:

Welcome back man, this side has been kinda boring without you.
Thank you brother. I've been occupied with work that's why and besides this section is already a boredom zone already.

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