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What Is The True Definition Of Love? by jesusjnr2020(m): 4:23am On Feb 14, 2021
This Is The True Definition Of Love

Hebrews 12:6 (KJV)

For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

Mark 1:11-13 (KJV)

And there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
And immediately the Spirit driveth him into the wilderness.
And he was there in the wilderness forty days, tempted of Satan; and was with the wild beasts; and the angels ministered unto him.


Usually when someone expressed his love for someone else He delights in, what would be expected to follow was something sweet, something pleasant, something enjoyable, like the beloved being showered with gifts or taken to a favorable place where He'd given a treat and entertained. But in this case it was pretty much the exact opposite, as it was serious suffering that followed, because Jesus was not just driven into the wilderness but made to fast for good forty days.

So was it that God didn't really love Jesus or did Jesus do something to offend Him which we don't know of that would make Him subject Jesus to such a harsh process, immediately after openly declaring His love for Him?

Surely not, because something we should understand is that the ways of God were not as the ways of men, therefore that was God expressing His love for His only begotten Son the way God loves to express His love for someone, for whom the Lord loves He chastens.

Some call it tough loving, but I would call it true and perfect loving because He doesn't just do things to please someone He loves and make him feel happy, but what the person needs and was for the person's own good, because He really cared about the person and wants the best for Him.

So the difficult situation God made Jesus go through after openly declaring His love for Him was a process Jesus needed to go through for His own good, hence after Jesus had gone through that difficult process, He emerged as a victor as He overcame the devil and his temptations and returned in the power of the Spirit.

Luke 4:13-14 (KJV)

And when the devil had ended all the temptation, he departed from him for a season.
And Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee: and there went out a fame of him through all the region round about.


That was what God desired for His beloved Son and He proved His love for Him by making Him go through the necessary process to make Him become that. That's what it means to truly love someone.

God bless.
Re: What Is The True Definition Of Love? by jesusjnr2020(m): 4:23am On Feb 14, 2021
This kind of loving was also observed moments before Jesus went through the most trying and difficult moment of His life.

Matthew 26:38-39 (KJV)

Then saith he unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death: tarry ye here, and watch with me.
And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.


For Jesus to ask God His Father that the purpose which God had sent Him to the Earth to accomplish should pass from Him shows the extent to which it troubled Him. Yet God would not spare His beloved Son but only give Him the strength He required to be able to go through the excruciating process for His own good.

Matthew 27:27-31 (KJV)

Then the soldiers of the governor took Jesus into the common hall, and gathered unto him the whole band of soldiers.
And they stripped him, and put on him a scarlet robe.
And when they had platted a crown of thorns, they put it upon his head, and a reed in his right hand: and they bowed the knee before him, and mocked him, saying, Hail, King of the Jews!
And they spit upon him, and took the reed, and smote him on the head.
And after that they had mocked him, they took the robe off from him, and put his own raiment on him, and led him away to crucify him.


Matthew 27:35 (KJV)

And they crucified him, and parted his garments, casting lots: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, They parted my garments among them, and upon my vesture did they cast lots.

So Jesus was made to go through the necessary process for His own good as He was mocked, spat on, beaten, chastised, tortured and crucified, but this was the result after His resurrection:

Matthew 28:18 (KJV)

And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

So you can now see why God didn't spare His beloved Son Jesus, and grant His request for Him to be spared and avoid the necessary suffering He had to endure for His own good. Because this was the same Jesus now proudly displaying the benefit of that same process after going through it, which was an act of appreciation and endorsement of the difficult process via which God achieved that result in His life, despite that at the time He was going through it, He was so troubled that He wanted God to spare Him and take that cup away from Him.

Therefore Jesus hence became all that God desired for Him to be and aimed at achieving via that necessary process, which was for Him to have "All Power" in heaven and earth, which He didn't have prior to that. John 17:5

And today, there's no one in the history of humanity close to Jesus in all ramifications. Not even one.

What a love!
Re: What Is The True Definition Of Love? by jesusjnr2020(m): 4:24am On Feb 14, 2021
When I began to walk with God, my idea of love was that twisted version of the world. So when God began to express His own kind of love for me, I was wondering what was going on, and if I had done something wrong, because my own orientation at the time, was that for someone to make someone else goes through such things, it was because the person had done wrong, and meant to punish the person for it.

Hence i went on my knee and earnestly asked God "why did you let me go through this?" "Why Lord"? I really wanted to know where I had erred.

But i never knew that suffering could also be a reward for doing something right, especially when it comes to God, hence Jesus said:

"Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit." John 15:2 (KJV)

Therefore God could also make someone go through a painful experience (purging), because the person had done right and was fruitful, so that the person could bear even more fruit.

But I didn't know that at the time hence my asking Him "why Lord"!? But then when the results of that difficult experience and the fruits began to manifest, and I began to see the unprecedented difference it made in my life and how it completely transformed me, I was stunned beyond measure that i began to thank God for making me go through that difficult experience.

I couldn't be grateful enough because I didn't even know it was for my own good and that i needed to go through such a difficult process to become all that God wanted me to be. But God came through for me and helped me when I couldn't help myself and didn't even know what was good for me.

He used His own eyes to see for me, His own understanding to think for me, His own knowledge and experience to know for me, and hence subjected me to the necessary process I needed to go through for my own good so i could become the best I could possibly be.

It's in gratitude to Him and endorsement of the difficult process He took me through at the time, that I keep praying for Him not to spare me but take me through such an experience whenever He deemed it necessary, even as He did when I didn't understand the value of it, because having seen the result of the difficult process, it proved that He loves me and that His love is perfect, because it was for my own good that He did it, as He wanted me to be perfect as He is.

Hence i had fallen deeply in love with His love, and kept praying for Him to love me as He knows how to love, even as He loved His Son Jesus, because I know it wasn't easy for Him but He did what He had to do, so He should do likewise for me, and look at what He aims to achieve, go for it and not stop until He achieves it. That when I complain when He's loving me as He knows how best to, He shouldn't take me seriously because it's only because of ignorance or the pain I go through in the process that I do so, but He should just give me the grace I need to go through the necessary process, because I know that at the end I would be grateful to Him when I see the result of the process and His efforts, just as I have been concerning that of the past.

I truly cannot appreciate God enough for bringing me to the knowledge of His love which is the true love, not the twisted version of the world which I had known prior to this.

God's love is by far the best thing that has ever happened to me.

God bless.
Re: What Is The True Definition Of Love? by jesusjnr2020(m): 4:24am On Feb 14, 2021
It's this kind of love that Jesus had for His sheep that made Him feed them with the Words of the Spirit which quickens and gives eternal life, instead of those of the flesh which profit nothing in Truth but death at the end.

John 6:63 (KJV)

It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

But some of His disciples who weren't really His sheep, couldn't understand this kind of loving because it was hard sayings and not those words which appeases the flesh that they were used to.

John 6:60 (KJV)

Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?

John 6:66 (KJV)

From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.

Hence they left Him, but there were yet those disciples who didn't leave Jesus but remained with Him because of those same hard sayings, because they knew that even though those Words that Jesus was feeding them with were hard and difficult to take in, that He was doing was only doing that for their own good.

John 6:67-69 (KJV)

Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?
Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.
And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God.


So they remained with Jesus because they had come to the knowledge of God's kind of love which is the true love, and at the end they were the best for it, as it was those same hard sayings, even the Words of the Spirit which Jesus fed them with, that made them to become rock-solid as a church, that even when the devil launched an onslaught against them with His full might and powers (the gates of hell), he couldn't prevail against them, because they were built upon the Rock! Matthew 7:24-25, Matthew 16:18, Acts 12.

Those are the same hard sayings, even the Words of the Spirit which Jesus fed His sheep with, that God used to make me who I am today, that enabled to walk at the same level of the Spirit which the disciples walked where it is all about God. But that wouldn't have been possible had it not been for the necessary process He took me through that made to come to the knowledge of His love, and hence to be able appreciate the Words of Jesus even though they were hard sayings.

When i observe how hard it was for "many disciples" today to comprehend the Words of Jesus which I bring and represent, it makes me to appreciate the difficult process even more, because I knew that could have easily been me, had it not been for the results of that necessary process which has distinguished me from many men.

I have of a truth tasted and known that God's love is the true definition of love.

God bless.
Re: What Is The True Definition Of Love? by jesusjnr2020(m): 7:52am On Feb 28, 2021
God's love is the true definition of love.
Re: What Is The True Definition Of Love? by Thattallgirl(f): 8:39pm On Mar 30, 2021
jesusjnr2020:
God's love is the true definition of love.
Hello, can I ask you a question?
Re: What Is The True Definition Of Love? by jesusjnr2020(m): 8:52pm On Mar 30, 2021
Thattallgirl:
Hello, can I ask you a question?
Hi. I'm listening.
Re: What Is The True Definition Of Love? by Thattallgirl(f): 8:57pm On Mar 30, 2021
jesusjnr2020:
Hi. I'm listening.
In the old testament, do you believe that the blood of bulls and animals could cover the sins of the Israelites for a year?
Re: What Is The True Definition Of Love? by jesusjnr2020(m): 9:00pm On Mar 30, 2021
Thattallgirl:
In the old testament, do you believe that the blood of bulls and animals could cover the sins of the Israelites for a year?
What did God say?
Re: What Is The True Definition Of Love? by Thattallgirl(f): 9:09pm On Mar 30, 2021
jesusjnr2020:
What did God say?
From Exodus 20, it is written that they're to make sacrifices for any sin or trespass. You believe that?
Re: What Is The True Definition Of Love? by jesusjnr2020(m): 11:07pm On Mar 30, 2021
Thattallgirl:
From Exodus 20, it is written that they're to make sacrifices for any sin or trespass. You believe that?
Okay. I actually asked the question because I wanted to know what you were driving and what that had to do this thread, but i didn't still get that from you.

It's obvious we are spiritually disconnected, that's why i chose not to bother continuing with the conversation we first had, because I saw you walked in ignorance but seemed so sure of yourself, hence i didn't see the point.

If it's Joseph Prince's message you brought here, I'm not interested, because as you can see my message is the message of Christ and I am His disciple so it's Impossible for us to agree on doctrine.

Thanks and God bless.
Re: What Is The True Definition Of Love? by Thattallgirl(f): 11:19pm On Mar 30, 2021
jesusjnr2020:
Okay. I actually asked the question because I wanted to know what you were driving and what that had to do this thread, but i didn't still get that from you.

It's obvious we are spiritually disconnected, that's why i chose not to bother continuing with the conversation we first had, because I saw you walked in ignorance but seemed so sure of yourself, hence i didn't see the point.

If it's Joseph Prince's message you brought here, I'm not interested, because as you can see my message is the message of Christ and I am His disciple so it's Impossible for us to agree on doctrine.

Thanks and God bless.
smiley I wasn't bringing you any pastor's message but Christ's. My question isn't related to this post either but related to some of your previous posts. Just wanted your views on the subject - if the blood of animals can wash away sins for a period of time, you don't believe the blood of Jesus has or can wash away all sins (past, present and future)? My initial thought was not to argue with you or cause any rift or talk about any doctrine. We're Christians and sometimes Christians discuss.

But you obviously think otherwise. You also think I'm not of Christ. Shalom! smiley

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Re: What Is The True Definition Of Love? by jesusjnr2020(m): 11:50pm On Mar 30, 2021
Thattallgirl:
smiley I wasn't bringing you any pastor's message but Christ's. My question isn't related to this post either but related to some of your previous posts. Just wanted your views on the subject - if the blood of animals can wash away sins for a period of time, you don't believe the blood of Jesus has or can wash away all sins (past, present and future)? My initial thought was not to argue with you or cause any rift or talk about any doctrine. We're Christians and sometimes Christians discuss.

But you obviously think otherwise. You also think I'm not of Christ. Shalom! smiley
I have already been there with you and it was pointless, so please don't bother about my point on other subjects because you should already know we are not of the same mindset.

If you actually brought Christ's message, you wouldn't be preaching the gospel that encourages sinners and workers of iniquity to continue in their evil ways with your grace gospel, and hence lay to waste the efforts of Jesus.

You may be of Christ but you're still walking in ignorance of the Truth. If what you preach was what Christ preached the church wouldn't exist up til date. Your gospel cannot produce the kind of church Christ produced because it is of the flesh and profits nothing in Truth, so they wouldn't be able to withstand the onslaught of the enemy like the house built on sand.

So kindly go and learn at Jesus' feet and change your orientation from the what it currently is to that of the Kingdom of God, then you can come back for us to have any sort of fruitful discussion, but for now, there's no point.

Thanks and God bless.

Re: What Is The True Definition Of Love? by LisaAnneMia: 9:10am On Mar 31, 2021
jesusjnr2020:
I have already been there with you and it was pointless, so please don't bother about my point on other subjects because you should already know we are not of the same mindset.

If you actually brought Christ's message, you wouldn't be preaching the gospel that encourages sinners and workers of iniquity to continue in their evil ways with your grace gospel, and hence lay to waste the efforts of Jesus.

You may be of Christ but you're still walking in ignorance of the Truth. If what you preach was what Christ preached the church wouldn't exist up til date. Your gospel cannot produce the kind of church Christ produced because it is of the flesh and profits nothing in Truth, so they wouldn't be able to withstand the onslaught of the enemy like the house built on sand.

So kindly go and learn at Jesus' feet and change your orientation from the what it currently is to that of the Kingdom of God, then you can come back for us to have any sort of fruitful discussion, but for now, there's no point.

Thanks and God bless.
My dear, don't be a Pharisee ok? We all learn everyday and increase in knowledge everyday. Are u claiming to know Jesus perfectly? You're actually accusing her the exact same way Paul was accused (thank God Romans 6 is there for understanding). I've read some scriptures you've posted and they're in the Bible. I've also read hers, and theyre also in the Bible. Not expecting a reply from you but just know that we learn everyday. Take care!
Re: What Is The True Definition Of Love? by jesusjnr2020(m): 11:02am On Mar 31, 2021
LisaAnneMia:
My dear, don't be a Pharisee ok? We all learn everyday and increase in knowledge everyday. Are u claiming to know Jesus perfectly? You're actually accusing her the exact same way Paul was accused (thank God Romans 6 is there for understanding). I've read some scriptures you've posted and they're in the Bible. I've also read hers, and theyre also in the Bible. Not expecting a reply from you but just know that we learn everyday. Take care!
Lol! Don't be a Pharisee because I tried as much to avoid an argument with her because i had one in the past with her and felt it was of no essence, and I couldn't afford to expend time on such again?

You probably couldn't see where I told her to sit at the feet of Jesus and learn, if you did, then you actually believe a Pharisee could do that.

Moreover note for emphasis that I didn't say at the feet of Paul but that of Jesus the Master! I believe you should also do the same because i have done that a lot, but I know you haven't just like her, so unless you did so, do not expect to be able to comprehend my speech!

Thanks and God bless.
Re: What Is The True Definition Of Love? by LisaAnneMia: 11:36am On Mar 31, 2021
jesusjnr2020:
Lol! Don't be a Pharisee because I tried as much to avoid an argument with her because i had one in the past with her and felt it was of no essence, and I couldn't afford to expend time on such again?

You probably couldn't see where I told her to sit at the feet of Jesus and learn, if you did, then you actually believe a Pharisee could do that.

Moreover note for emphasis that I didn't say at the feet of Paul but that of Jesus the Master! I believe you should also do the same because i have done that a lot, but I know you haven't just like her, so unless you did so, do not expect to be able to comprehend my speech!

Thanks and God bless.
And who did Paul say we should depend on? On him or on Jesus? Jesus is all what Paul preached on. You fail, turn to Jesus. You need wisdom, turn to Jesus, everything including righteousness can't be gotten from ourselves but from Jesus. I'm not sitting on Paul's feet, neither is the other lady based on scriptures she posted. Everything is about Jesus. Christians think they can earn His love or blessings, whereas Jesus is a gift to us. We don't deserve Him. So if u still think Paul's "doctrine" is different from Christ's, maybe u should sit at Jesus' feet. Cause no Christian can please God without Jesus. It's not called "Me-tianity" but Christianity. Christ is everything. Mortal men can't teach men what to do is all I'm saying. Only Jesus can. Good day.
Re: What Is The True Definition Of Love? by jesusjnr2020(m): 12:24pm On Mar 31, 2021
LisaAnneMia:
And who did Paul say we should depend on? On him or on Jesus? Jesus is all what Paul preached on. You fail, turn to Jesus. You need wisdom, turn to Jesus, everything including righteousness can't be gotten from ourselves but from Jesus. I'm not sitting on Paul's feet, neither is the other lady based on scriptures she posted. Everything is about Jesus. Christians think they can earn His love or blessings, whereas Jesus is a gift to us. We don't deserve Him. So if u still think Paul's "doctrine" is different from Christ's, maybe u should sit at Jesus' feet. Cause no Christian can please God without Jesus. It's not called "Me-tianity" but Christianity. Christ is everything. Mortal men can't teach men what to do is all I'm saying. Only Jesus can. Good day.
I was right! You're no different from her so this has nothing to do with Christ but that you agree with her false doctrine.

As I told you earlier don't expect to be able to comprehend my speech, unless you've sat at the Master's feet and learn from Him as I've done.

Time would tell who really needs to turn to Jesus between me and the likes of you who lack knowledge of the Truth.

God bless.
Re: What Is The True Definition Of Love? by LisaAnneMia: 12:49pm On Mar 31, 2021
jesusjnr2020:
I was right! You're no different from her so this has nothing to do with Christ but that you agree with her false doctrine.

As I told you earlier don't expect to be able to comprehend my speech, unless you've sat at the Master's feet and learn from Him as I've done.

Time would tell who really needs to turn to Jesus between me and the likes of you who lack knowledge of the Truth.

God bless.
Lol funny! You can't even agree that Jesus is a gift and everything we need including blessings and righteousness can only come from Him. Thank God the Bible says in the flesh dwells no good thing for us to know who we should turn to for everything. And oh yes! I'll keep sitting at my Father's feet to draw from Him for everything I need. Shebi you've finished drawing from Him cos in your words "like I've done". You're full and you've left His feet cos you've gained every knowledge from Him. You know everything now. You can do this and do that and God will bless you.

You even turned away from Jesus by saying I'm just like her. Let's only look to Jesus, you're diverting the topic to slander me and justify yourself. And u said you're not a Pharisee? A Pharisee that knows all? Oh yea! You do! You learned at your "master's" feet and you're full. You don't need to continue. Lol! And which one is false doctrine? Isn't all I've said in the Bible?
Re: What Is The True Definition Of Love? by jesusjnr2020(m): 9:08pm On Mar 31, 2021
LisaAnneMia:
Lol funny! You can't even agree that Jesus is a gift and everything we need including blessings and righteousness can only come from Him. Thank God the Bible says in the flesh dwells no good thing for us to know who we should turn to for everything. And oh yes! I'll keep sitting at my Father's feet to draw from Him for everything I need. Shebi you've finished drawing from Him cos in your words "like I've done". You're full and you've left His feet cos you've gained every knowledge from Him. You know everything now. You can do this and do that and God will bless you.

You even turned away from Jesus by saying I'm just like her. Let's only look to Jesus, you're diverting the topic to slander me and justify yourself. And u said you're not a Pharisee? A Pharisee that knows all? Oh yea! You do! You learned at your "master's" feet and you're full. You don't need to continue. Lol! And which one is false doctrine? Isn't all I've said in the Bible?
You would also call Jesus' disciples, "Pharisees" if they said they'd learnt at the feet of Jesus so it's a good thing to be called so by someone like you.

It's obvious she was the one that made you come to talk to me, you're probably her mum that she once spoke about or someone else close to her. I don't hate her but I felt she was walking in ignorance and had to correct her because I cared about her, and while I was praying for her, God told me she would learn, so it appears He likes her even though she's presently lacks knowledge of the Truth.

So @Thattallgirl I'm expecting you to confirm these words I just said God spoke to me about you soon.

God bless.
Re: What Is The True Definition Of Love? by LisaAnneMia: 9:17pm On Mar 31, 2021
jesusjnr2020:
You would also call Jesus' disciples, "Pharisees" if they said they'd learnt at the feet of Jesus so it's a good thing to be called so by someone like you.

It's obvious she was the one that made you come to talk to me, you're probably her mum that she once spoke about or someone else close to her. I don't hate her but I felt she was walking in ignorance and had to correct her because I cared about her, and while I was praying for her, God told me she would learn, so it appears He likes her even though she's presently lacks knowledge of the Truth.

So @Thattallgirl I'm expecting you to confirm these words I just said God spoke to me about you soon.

God bless.
My dear, I am not her mom and she didn't run to me. I'm in my 20's pls cheesy I stumbled on your thread like any other thread I commented on. You know the enemy can disguise as a voice of God? Just know that any voice that doesn't make u look to Jesus as your source of everything isn't God. You still are deviating from what I talked about earlier. You said you're a Christian and you still don't believe Jesus is your righteousness? Damn! I've also prayed for you. I hope you'll stop looking inwardly and look to Jesus as your source of everything! Goodnight smiley
Re: What Is The True Definition Of Love? by Thattallgirl(f): 9:30pm On Mar 31, 2021
jesusjnr2020:
You would also call Jesus' disciples, "Pharisees" if they said they'd learnt at the feet of Jesus so it's a good thing to be called so by someone like you.

It's obvious she was the one that made you come to talk to me, you're probably her mum that she once spoke about or someone else close to her. I don't hate her but I felt she was walking in ignorance and had to correct her because I cared about her, and while I was praying for her, God told me she would learn, so it appears He likes her even though she's presently lacks knowledge of the Truth.

So @Thattallgirl I'm expecting you to confirm these words I just said God spoke to me about you soon.

God bless.
Nawa o...so cos someone else believes in the gospel of grace now, I ran to her? And cos I believe Jesus is everything I need, I'm talking in ignorance? Okay o
Re: What Is The True Definition Of Love? by jesusjnr2020(m): 9:34pm On Mar 31, 2021
LisaAnneMia:
My dear, I am not her mom and she didn't run to me. I'm in my 20's pls cheesy I stumbled on your thread like any other thread I commented on. You know the enemy can disguise as a voice of God? Just know that any voice that doesn't make u look to Jesus as your source of everything isn't God. You still are deviating from what I talked about earlier. You said you're a Christian and you still don't believe Jesus is your righteousness? Damn! I've also prayed for you. I hope you'll stop looking inwardly and look to Jesus as your source of everything! Goodnight smiley
If so, then I was wrong about my assumption, however that doesn't change the fact that you're walking in ignorance as she is.

If she doesn't learn and come to realize her error soon, then it wasn't God that told me that.

God bless.
Re: What Is The True Definition Of Love? by jesusjnr2020(m): 9:38pm On Mar 31, 2021
Thattallgirl:
Nawa o...so cos someone else believes in the gospel of grace now, I ran to her? And cos I believe Jesus is everything I need, I'm talking in ignorance? Okay o
Sorry about the bolded part.

It seems you have a good heart, so you'd eventually learn.

God bless.
Re: What Is The True Definition Of Love? by jesusjnr2020(m): 9:12am On Apr 02, 2021
John 3:16 (KJV)

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Re: What Is The True Definition Of Love? by jesusjnr2020(m): 8:03pm On Apr 02, 2021
John 15:13 (KJV)

Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
Re: What Is The True Definition Of Love? by ichuka(m): 9:41pm On Apr 02, 2021
Thattallgirl:
From Exodus 20, it is written that they're to make sacrifices for any sin or trespass. You believe that?
Hebrew10:1-18
Christ’s Sacrifice Once for All

1The law is only a shadow of the good things that are coming—not the realities themselves. For this reason it can never, by the same sacrifices repeated endlessly year after year, make perfect those who draw near to worship.2Otherwise, would they not have stopped being offered? For the worshipers would have been cleansed once for all, and would no longer have felt guilty for their sins. 3But those sacrifices are an annual reminder of sins. 4It is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins.

5Therefore, when Christ came into the world, he said:

“Sacrifice and offering you did not desire,

but a body you prepared for me;

6with burnt offerings and sin offerings

you were not pleased.

7Then I said, ‘Here I am—it is written about me in the scroll—

I have come to do your will, my God.’ ” a

8First he said, “Sacrifices and offerings, burnt offerings and sin offerings you did not desire, nor were you pleased with them”—though they were offered in accordance with the law. 9Then he said, “Here I am, I have come to do your will.” He sets aside the first to establish the second. 10And by that will, we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

11Day after day every priest stands and performs his religious duties; again and again he offers the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. 12But when this priest had offered for all time one sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God, 13and since that time he waits for his enemies to be made his footstool. 14For by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy.

15The Holy Spirit also testifies to us about this. First he says:

16“This is the covenant I will make with them

after that time, says the Lord.

I will put my laws in their hearts,

and I will write them on their minds.” b

17Then he adds:

“Their sins and lawless acts

I will remember no more.” c

18And where these have been forgiven, sacrifice for sin is no longer necessary.

all the sacrifice performed in the OT was done accordance to the Law.

but before the Law there was sin
and God over look it then.
Romans5:13.
for until the Law sin was in the world, but sin is not counted against anyone when there is no law

Romans3:25
God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement, through the shedding of his blood--to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished--

I can break it down in my own understanding but I presume you get the pic by now.

because its all God.
he has never ask for mans opinion in His original purpose.
Gen1:1 and John1:1 said it all.
it was Him that created the heaven's and the earth. it wasn't Him and man that did the creation in the beginning but Him alone.
He's fully inchargre .
lol my bad .the above scriptures will aid you.
cheers
Re: What Is The True Definition Of Love? by jesusjnr2020(m): 8:51pm On Apr 03, 2021
For God so loved the world...
Re: What Is The True Definition Of Love? by Thattallgirl(f): 8:56pm On Apr 03, 2021
ichuka:

Hebrew10:1-18
Christ’s Sacrifice Once for All

1The law is only a shadow of the good things that are coming—not the realities themselves. For this reason it can never, by the same sacrifices repeated endlessly year after year, make perfect those who draw near to worship.2Otherwise, would they not have stopped being offered? For the worshipers would have been cleansed once for all, and would no longer have felt guilty for their sins. 3But those sacrifices are an annual reminder of sins. 4It is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins.

5Therefore, when Christ came into the world, he said:

“Sacrifice and offering you did not desire,

but a body you prepared for me;

6with burnt offerings and sin offerings

you were not pleased.

7Then I said, ‘Here I am—it is written about me in the scroll—

I have come to do your will, my God.’ ” a

8First he said, “Sacrifices and offerings, burnt offerings and sin offerings you did not desire, nor were you pleased with them”—though they were offered in accordance with the law. 9Then he said, “Here I am, I have come to do your will.” He sets aside the first to establish the second. 10And by that will, we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

11Day after day every priest stands and performs his religious duties; again and again he offers the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. 12But when this priest had offered for all time one sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God, 13and since that time he waits for his enemies to be made his footstool. 14For by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy.

15The Holy Spirit also testifies to us about this. First he says:

16“This is the covenant I will make with them

after that time, says the Lord.

I will put my laws in their hearts,

and I will write them on their minds.” b

17Then he adds:

“Their sins and lawless acts

I will remember no more.” c

18And where these have been forgiven, sacrifice for sin is no longer necessary.

all the sacrifice performed in the OT was done accordance to the Law.

but before the Law there was sin
and God over look it then.
Romans5:13.
for until the Law sin was in the world, but sin is not counted against anyone when there is no law

Romans3:25
God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement, through the shedding of his blood--to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished--

I can break it down in my own understanding but I presume you get the pic by now.

because its all God.
he has never ask for mans opinion in His original purpose.
Gen1:1 and John1:1 said it all.
it was Him that created the heaven's and the earth. it wasn't Him and man that did the creation in the beginning but Him alone.
He's fully inchargre .
lol my bad .the above scriptures will aid you.
cheers

Lol it's fine. I get your point. I thank God you believe that our righteousness is only by faith and faith in Jesus Christ. smiley

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Re: What Is The True Definition Of Love? by ichuka(m): 11:40pm On Apr 03, 2021
Thattallgirl:
Lol it's fine. I get your point. I thank God you believe that our righteousness is only by faith and faith in Jesus Christ. smiley
yeah its all about faith and His Grace nothing more.and that's the Gospel.
the laws (the sacrifices in the old testament didn't save anyone)
our problem in these generation is that we don't understand the principal of Grace and Law.
as a Christian we must choose one.
Re: What Is The True Definition Of Love? by jesusjnr2020(m): 8:58am On May 30, 2021
The love the good shepherd had for His sheep.

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