The mall owner is either racist or suffers from inferiority complex or both.

buymyride:
oh, I see the whole point now. I wouldn’t approve of such on our women too. I get it now!
But sometimes it’s not always about transaction when a man takes care of a woman he just met. Sure I gave her money to sort out some things she mentioned amidst our discuss and bought her a new phone but it wasn’t born out of sexual transaction but because I liked her a lot and have come to get so fond of her. Though everyone would definitely conclude it’s transactional like you pointed out. That’s why I seldom goes out with her throughout my stay there except on two occasions. I followed her to church on the first occasion and the mall the second time. I spent most of my time enjoying the cool breeze and drinking. I love nature and chilly atmosphere, and SA has got lots and lots of it.
I pray the xenophobic attacks don’t reoccur again atleast this year so I can visit again.

There's currently violence brewing in Durban, and with the Zulu king gone it's unclear who'll call for cool heads over there (Zulu stronghold).

I don't think theres anything wrong with spoiling your lover, it's just the idea that it's done with dirty money that irks South Africans. I say it's transactional, coz really who will date a drug dealer or criminal out of free will?

Anyway, the topic is too depressing dude for a Saturday evening. See ya later

motymop:


Those that want simpler form of life should also be able to respect others too

You cant use western phones or have an Instagram, twitter account, visit the mall and then claim you want a simpler form of life.

I have never seen a villager that know about the mall, use a good camara phone, have Instagram account or want to live luxurious way of life.

In SA we shop in malls and not markets, and who can communicate with a cellphone nowadays?

Western culture has encroached on African societies so much people have no choice than to conform. But where people can help it they should be able to live life the way they want. I don't know why you're advocating for a monochrome world where everyone is the same, that's such a boring and oppressive life.

TMKsouth:


In SA we shop in malls and not markets, and who can communicate with a cellphone nowadays?

Western culture has encroached on African societies so much people have no choice than to conform. But where people can help it they should be able to live life the way they want. I don't know why you're advocating for a monochrome world where everyone is the same, that's such a boring and oppressive life.

I rather shop in markets where i can get fresh food and direct from the farm produce.

You will agree with me that people who lives in the villages of south Africa do not know about malls.

Western culture was able to encroach on African societies because it was not advanced.

The world isn't monochrome, lot of Africans wear African style of dressing, they don't go naked.

TMKsouth:


There's currently violence brewing in Durban, and with the Zulu king gone it's unclear who'll call for cool heads over there (Zulu stronghold).

I don't think theres anything wrong with spoiling your lover, it's just the idea that it's done with dirty money that irks South Africans. I say it's transactional, coz really who will date a drug dealer or criminal out of free will?

Anyway, the topic is too depressing dude for a Saturday evening. See ya later

Thanks for this piece of information, bye

motymop:


I rather shop in markets where i can get fresh food and direct from the farm produce.

You will agree with me that people who lives in the villages of south Africa do not know about malls.

Western culture was able to encroach on African societies because it was not advanced.

The world isn't monochrome, lot of Africans wear African style of dressing, they don't go naked.

4. It's monochrome if it dictates only long and covered forms of those attire.

3. Western culture encroached on all continents of the world through violence and racist economic hegemony.

2. People in SA villages may shop in local markets but this guy stays in the city, and cities shouldn't be hostile to rural practices.

1. Indeed everyone prefers the freshest produce, but in SA malls dominate. It's for this reason they shouldn't be allowed to be elitist and anti-African.

buymyride:








Thanks for this piece of information, bye

Cool I'm sure we'll chat again, I enjoyed your views.

This is the same country that has "cultural" performances everywhere of topless female dancers in "traditional" attire. Now, I'm not saying that isn't traditional. I'm just saying they know what they're doing. It's not a coincidence that all the dancers have huge melons and small waists.

Clearly this guy is looking for attention, but he really didn't do anything inappropriate. However, he's a grown man walking around a mall in a leather speedo. If you had a daughter, you would want to fight him. Right or wrong.

blueAgent:


You can start by discarding everything western ,starting with the phone you used in typing this crap.
Clown.

I don't much to say to you..... Imp

illicit:
My problem with him is that he refuses change....



His forefathers have reasons for dressing like that then, such reasons no longer apply



Culture has never been static

It is dynamic. well said boss

TMKsouth:


Cool I'm sure we'll chat again, I enjoyed your views.

uw sir, same here

TMKsouth:


4. It's monochrome if it dictates only long and covered forms of those attire.

3. Western culture encroached on all continents of the world through violence and racist economic hegemony.

2. People in SA villages may shop in local markets but this guy stays in the city, and cities shouldn't be hostile to rural practices.

1. Indeed everyone prefers the freshest produce, but in SA malls dominate. It's for this reason they shouldn't be allowed to be elitist and anti-African.

So this guy stays in the city but acts like a villager.

I believe he must be going to work, the church half naked.

Western civilization gave birth to many modernism and i believe we should be grateful for that.

The guy is just an attention seeker, when you are in rome act like the romans.

motymop:


So this guy stays in the city but acts like a villager.

I believe he must be going to work, the church half naked.

Western civilization gave birth to many modernism and i believe we should be grateful for that.

The guy is just an attention seeker, when you are in rome act like the romans.

A Western proverb Try Ubuntu instead (I am, because you are).

Goodnite motymop.

blueAgent:


Most Africans are too dumb to reason logically.

If the Whiteman has dressed in a way that looked provocative or inappropriate for that environment he would have been sent out.

I have seen and read countless number of times that police were called on people who were not properly dressed or exposed their body.

It's not a cultural thing but decency.

Try wear bikini and go to a mall.

People wear bikini to Walmart. You need some exposure. Better still check Youtube.

blueAgent:


What is patriotism with knowledge?

Will patriotism cause an Aircraft to defy law of gravity and fly?

Stick to the romance section, this thread is way above your league. PS, This is my last reply to you.

So you mean the concept of having a mall is not AFrican?? This shows your level of mental enslavement and inferiority complexity. Pre colonial Africa was known for trade and our markets had organized ways of carrying our trade. Go and read about Ancient Kemer market structure before you come here to showcase your naivety and shallow mindedness. White man slave.

blueAgent:


Clown why did he had to go to the Mall in the first place?
Is the concept of Mall African ?

hermesprogidy:

China is the mother of inventions. She invented writing, paper, fireworks, and loads of other things you take for granted, including numbers and mathematics. (Alongside India) Westernization goes beyond dressing. It includes Religion, language and general culture.

SIRTee15:


China didn't invent paper. Paper came from Egypt.
Mathematics is too broad...different areas of maths came from different countries.
Numbers we use today originate from Arab and western Asia.
China invented writing...seriously.

First written languages came from Iran, Egypt or somewhere else in middleeast but first paper came from China for sure.
Modern mathematical digits are Arabic numerals which are derived from Hindu numerals of Gupta empire (Indian dynasty).

Mathematics at large from digits to trigonometry and even all modern complex calculations came from India, Iran and Arabia. Even first human civilisations were invented in these countries.
Chinese discovered many great things like gunpowder. But calling them as mother of invention is exaggeration. They are old as country but very new as a civilisation. Iran, Egypt, India, Egypt and Europe, all had settled when Chinese used to do tribal dance with mongols in jungles.

Goel:


First written languages came from Iran, Egypt or somewhere else in middleeast but first paper came from China for sure.
Modern mathematical digits are Arabic numerals which are derived from Hindu numerals of Gupta empire (Indian dynasty).

Mathematics at large from digits to trigonometry and even all modern complex calculations came from India, Iran and Arabia. Even first human civilisations were invented in these countries.
Chinese discovered many great things like gunpowder. But calling them as mother of invention is exaggeration. They are old as country but very new as a civilisation. Iran, Egypt, India, Egypt and Europe, all had settled when Chinese used to do tribal dance with mongols in jungles.

It's not clear exactly where writing was invented, some will say ancient Mesopotamia, some credit the Indus Valley civilization, but archeologists also credit China.
I still maintain my stance that China is the mother of inventions. By this, I don't mean quantity, I mean importance. Imagine how possible oceanic travel would be without a Compass, or a world without paper or printing. Go read up Chinese inventions, they invented a great deal of things. Western education has succeeded in convincing a lot of people that only Europeans invented things that shaped human civilization.

Goel:


First written languages came from Iran, Egypt or somewhere else in middleeast but first paper came from China for sure.
Modern mathematical digits are Arabic numerals which are derived from Hindu numerals of Gupta empire (Indian dynasty).

Mathematics at large from digits to trigonometry and even all modern complex calculations came from India, Iran and Arabia. Even first human civilisations were invented in these countries.
Chinese discovered many great things like gunpowder. But calling them as mother of invention is exaggeration. They are old as country but very new as a civilisation. Iran, Egypt, India, Egypt and Europe, all had settled when Chinese used to do tribal dance with mongols in jungles.

Egypt invented papyrus, the first writing surface which is a form of paper.

IronGalaxy:
That's a Ndebele.

Southern Or Northern Ndebele?

selemempe:
they embraced 80% of western ideas. In fact the only part of their culture they kept was language and religion. Even those have been influenced by west. Below is a street in Tokyo. See many English signages? See how 'western' the people in the photo are dressed?

And for Japan, it was a deliberate strategy. Read about the Meji era. The emperor forced Japanese citizens to adopt western dressing deliberately. The westernization made Japan the sole non-white global power. Giving them the advantages to colonize China and Korea.


As for a white men getting red carpet treatment...who told you that? Maybe from an African...but his fellow white would have called the police on him

japan colonized china ? who is the first viceroy ? japan is the non-white country "given" by the whites to "colonize" china ?

so, china is the grandson of the whites. ... no wonder everyone today is so afraid of china's rise. how dare a grandson whom nobody knows anything of challenge the white grandfather?

reality check : japan colonized china's former colony korea, not china. japan earned its international status by its own ability. african guys, dont assume other countries behave like a beggar like you . no one lives by donation. no Power can be "made" by other Powers .

if you african dont rid of this mindset, you can never walk out of the white man nightmare for you.

by the way, all colonies are forever shietholes. see the differences between india and china. no matter how hard india exerts itself, it is doomed to lag behind china with light years. the inferiority which caused a nation/ppl to be colonized will stick like a shiet to it and make it inferior forever. if it was not inferior , how can a country be colonized ?

selemempe:


The Chinese and Japanese that used to be highly cultural people dropped all that and followed a state policy of westernisation. See what they have achieved. They are the only other developed people in the world outside white countries. Forget about Arabs...they would have been as poor as Africa if not for oil.

If it was up to me, politicians in our country would only dress

You have the guts to tell me fool.

dumb ass, china modernizes itself not just by wearing suits.

actually, most houses in japan remain ancient style with wood ceilings and bamboo fences and paper windows and water chutes to vent the rain water . but they also integrate high tech with these "primitive" houses . the wifi is disguised and embeded in the bamboo fence. the wood ceiling is part of the A.I. system that controls the houese interior temperature.

and they also wear "mock ancient" clothes which is made by best material processed with 21st century technology.

selemempe:


Do you see Chinese people dressing in their 'cultural' attires today

the answer is YES.

it is a fashion for the youngsters , especially those with high education and good income . they will gather in the parks at weekend and take photos of each other with chinese ancient clothes on .

and those clothes are expensive. it is not for patriotism. it is just a yearning for china's ancient glory and a symbol of the wearer's affluent status nowadays.

igbesachick:


japan colonized china ? who is the first viceroy ? japan is the non-white country "given" by the whites to "colonize" china ?

so, china is the grandson of the whites. ... no wonder everyone today is so afraid of china's rise. how dare a grandson whom nobody knows anything of challenge the white grandfather?

reality check : japan colonized china's former colony korea, not china. japan earned its international status by its own ability. african guys, dont assume other countries behave like a beggar like you . no one lives by donation. no Power can be "made" by other Powers .

if you african dont rid of this mindset, you can never walk out of the white man nightmare for you.

by the way, all colonies are forever shietholes. see the differences between india and china. no matter how hard india exerts itself, it is doomed to lag behind china with light years. the inferiority which caused a nation/ppl to be colonized will stick like a shiet to it and make it inferior forever. if it was not inferior , how can a country be colonized ?

I was going to respond to your other posts until I saw this. Japan defeated China in 1895 and took over Taiwan and Korea. They later occupied the eastern part of China until the end of civil war and created a government there

Reeses:
About time we teach those white people that we have the right to dress how we want. This is our land

See landlord them, these are the type of people who sell land and later claim it

SIRTee15:


Egypt invented papyrus, the first writing surface which is a form of paper.

Modern paper came from China.

hermesprogidy:
It's not clear exactly where writing was invented, some will say ancient Mesopotamia, some credit the Indus Valley civilization, but archeologists also credit China.

They are a minority. China was a way later entry into civilisation. So anyone crediting them for founding modern languages is a rarely attended group of archaeologists.

hermesprogidy:
I still maintain my stance that China is the mother of inventions. By this, I don't mean quantity, I mean importance.

Importance also lies here equally. We are only comparing important inventions and China lags behind in quantity since it was new to civilize.

Nor Chinese inventions were exclusive. Developing paper or some similar writing platform wasn't a challenge for people from other parts of world. Chinese martial arts itself came from India and Mongolia. Many of Chinese inventions were reinvented around world by other societies themselves.

Chinese have done a distinct challenging thing; invention of gun powder, guns and war rockets. Even those were reinvented in Southeast Asia and Indian subcontinent later.

hermesprogidy:
Imagine how possible oceanic travel would be without a Compass, or a world without paper or printing. Go read up Chinese inventions, they invented a great deal of things.

Compass was a great deal, without it, world would have been 300-400 years late to connect but not paper. Paper was easily assimilable.

Maths and medical science made world a completely different place. I rather recommend you to not to make it versus all these inventions from all parts of world had significant role in what we are today.

hermesprogidy:
Western education has succeeded in convincing a lot of people that only Europeans invented things that shaped human civilization.

Nobody believes that western people built civilisation, even Westerners themselves. They know that they were first to do things on industrial scale what eastern people used to do on small scale. Even Europeans also contributed a lot in ancient era during Roman empire.

It's in fact entire Eurasia which built world civilisation. Europe + Middleast + India + East Asia. These societies dominated world in intellect and innovation in that era too. These are the societies which colonised each other, played great games and fought world wars. These are the societies which even today are growing economically over their own other peers to take control over the world. Even the new entry in competition called USA was settled by these societies themselves.

selemempe:
I was going to respond to your other posts until I saw this. Japan defeated China in 1895 and took over Taiwan and Korea. They later occupied the eastern part of China until the end of civil war and created a government there

that was a war between 1938 to 1945 . during the war, japan occupied parts of china. how come the colony ?

Goel:

They are a minority. China was a way later entry into civilisation. So anyone crediting them for founding modern languages is a rarely attended group of archaeologists.

.

china is the only country in the world, today , that uses a non-alphabatic language.

so, that is right . china VS the world. china has nothing to do with the world, led by the West countries, that uses french, russian, arabian, yoruba....all based on alphabatics.

and in the ancient world, apart from china, only egypt and mesopotamia used hieroglyphics.

but china "creating" modern language or not has nothing to do with china been entering civilization earlier or not.

what matters is , they still speak the same language while india , egypt and iraq are totally a different race respectively from their ancient "ancestors".

and i dont think china oracles on tortoise shells are not enough evidence to prove they are not "credited" to be the early , if not earliest , inventer of language.

illicit:




I feel u but there's nothing cultural about this man....

He ought to behave like a civilised person if he wants the protection that civilisation offers

Is the culture in his sole custody

Other people who originally shared the same culture and origin with him has moved on, he is just stagnant....


If I should decide to go around nude today because our ancestors were actually like that, will you permit that? if I was ur son


female genitals mutilation is our culture, do u support it

My ancestors don't do female genital mutation. We are ijebus . we are only fetish and money wise.
We still do that till date how does that affect others who feels their own culture is barbaric?

zolajpower:

Next time you sef dress well Pele oo

What's your definition of dress well?

igbesachick:


that was a war between 1938 to 1945 . during the war, japan occupied parts of china. how come the colony ?

read what colony means. Japan established government in China successfully. Even if it lasted for a few months. How long would that occupation have lasted if Japan didn't make the error of invading the US and incurring the wrath of the west? Or you just want to do yeye argument this morning. Did 1930s china with their Buddhism and cultural society stand any chance against westernized Japan?

Serious countries are busy pursuing a policy of westernization but you negroes think it's low self-esteem. What is worse...that you dress and behave like the whites and have a developed society or that you hold on to your cultural heritage and have this society below.

I'm not in the mood to argue so I will tell you this.... unlearning is part of learning. A rich man raised in poverty may choose to withhold the sweet things of life from his kids... doesn't make him intelligent. Our ancestors were naked because they lacked technology for clothing...not because they were proud of it.

If you hate westernization...stay off western countries. Remain in Nigeria and stay off western media. Thanks have a great 'cultural' day