Allied Health refers to professionals out of the 'Medical' sphere. They include Nurses, Pharmacists, Optometrist, Laboratory scientist, Radiographers, Physiotherapist/Medical Rehabilitation in Nigeria.
Medical means 'Medicine'. I don't want to talk the US here because they offer some Degrees which can't be used in many places of the world as it is used in the country.
In Nigeria there are only three existing which is ; Medicine and Surgery, Dentistry and Veterinary Medicine. These professions operate independently except in Nigeria and some countries where Dentist are with Medicine because the country has poor oral health.
Now the problem in Nigeria now is more of a matter of greed rather than 'delivering' essential services.
Many professions in the Allied Health have extended their "degree" to six years because they want to bear the "Doc" title not because of creating better ways of helping the patients in general. One thing we must remember is that no matter how long you make the duration, it can never be a branch of Medicine.
Radiographers are Image Technologist whose job is to use advance Technology to get right images of the internal environment of people or Animals if need be. They also prep patients for Scan. Once this scan is made into radiographs it is sent to the Radiologist for reading and Diagnostics. The Radiographer has no right whatsoever in any country to diagnose patients. It is of recent that Msc in Diagnostic Radiography which has given Radiographers a bit liberty to read Radiographs as a result of the tedious jobs done by Radiologists. Even at that, a Signature of a Radiologist is needed. In hospitals it under the 'Radiology' department.
Laboratory scientist major aim is similar to Radiographers which is drawing blood and running various test as prescribed by the Doctor or Nurse if need be. Diagnostics isn't part of the scope of Laboratory science world wide. Then the test results are sent to doctors for reading. Direct sending of results to doctors to read is done only if the Pathologist is unavailable in the region.
Pathologist 'Medical' doctor reads the test result, analyses it for defaults, make suggestions and send it to the Medical Doctor. In Hospitals in all countries have a Pathologist who mans the Lab.
Medical Laboratory Science was created as a need to make work easier for Pathologists who wouldn't be able to run tests, research and still read results. Simply put it as 'Fill a void'
In countries Like UK, US they're under the Pathology association but here in Nigeria it is a rift because they can't subject themselves to higher authority.
A Radiologist goes overboard by operating machines, A pathologist goes overboard when he decides to start running an Analyser etc.
One other problem is asking for 'Equal' pay which isn't feasible considering it is not done anywhere in the world.
My prayer is for everybody to know his /her Job and do it effectively.
Good morning

More inputs needed

Legendforte:
More inputs needed

OK

I always observe that allied health workers in Nigeria attacks physicians and surgeons at any slightest opportunity

Nurses specifically at young medical doctors

Zeeknow3245:
Allied Health refers to professionals out of the 'Medical' sphere. They include Nurses, Pharmacists, Optometrist, Laboratory scientist, Radiographers, Physiotherapist/Medical Rehabilitation in Nigeria.
Medical means 'Medicine'. I don't want to talk the US here because they offer some Degrees which can't be used in many places of the world as it is used in the country.
In Nigeria there are only three existing which is ; Medicine and Surgery, Dentistry and Veterinary Medicine. These professions operate independently except in Nigeria and some countries where Dentist are with Medicine because the country has poor oral health.
Now the problem in Nigeria now is more of a matter of greed rather than 'delivering' essential services.
Many professions in the Allied Health have extended their "degree" to six years because they want to bear the "Doc" title not because of creating better ways of helping the patients in general. One thing we must remember is that no matter how long you make the duration, it can never be a branch of Medicine.
Radiographers are Image Technologist whose job is to use advance Technology to get right images of the internal environment of people or Animals if need be. They also prep patients for Scan. Once this scan is made into radiographs it is sent to the Radiologist for reading and Diagnostics. The Radiographer has no right whatsoever in any country to diagnose patients. It is of recent that Msc in Diagnostic Radiography which has given Radiographers a bit liberty to read Radiographs as a result of the tedious jobs done by Radiologists. Even at that, a Signature of a Radiologist is needed. In hospitals it under the 'Radiology' department.
Laboratory scientist major aim is similar to Radiographers which is drawing blood and running various test as prescribed by the Doctor or Nurse if need be. Diagnostics isn't part of the scope of Laboratory science world wide. Then the test results are sent to doctors for reading. Direct sending of results to doctors to read is done only if the Pathologist is unavailable in the region.
Pathologist 'Medical' doctor reads the test result, analyses it for defaults, make suggestions and send it to the Medical Doctor. In Hospitals in all countries have a Pathologist who mans the Lab.
Medical Laboratory Science was created as a need to make work easier for Pathologists who wouldn't be able to run tests, research and still read results. Simply put it as 'Fill a void'
In countries Like UK, US they're under the Pathology association but here in Nigeria it is a rift because they can't subject themselves to higher authority.
A Radiologist goes overboard by operating machines, A pathologist goes overboard when he decides to start running an Analyser etc.
One other problem is asking for 'Equal' pay which isn't feasible considering it is not done anywhere in the world.
My prayer is for everybody to know his /her Job and do it effectively.
Good morning

are you done crying? local champion.

A multidisciplinary approach should be the mindset for the common good while everyone maintain their lane.

vhuqnl:

are you done crying? local champion.

You must be an Allied Health disgruntled individual. I notice something about many of you guys. You people ignorant of your profession and how it is done in sane environments. You people are the Problem NOT doctors. Many of your Union president and board are sowing seed of discord and it will hunt you down. You choose second fiddle, play along with it and that's life.

Mindlog:
A multidisciplinary approach should be the mindset for the common good while everyone maintain their lane.

That's the problem boss. Many of them think because I wear Lab coat I am a Medical Doctor. A lab scientist is a Medical Doctor,A Pharmacist is a Medical Doctor,Same for an Optometrist and Physiotherapist. It is baaad bro very baaaaad

Zeeknow3245:

That's the problem boss. Many of them think because I wear Lab coat I am a Medical Doctor. A lab scientist is a Medical Doctor,A Pharmacist is a Medical Doctor,Same for an Optometrist and Physiotherapist. It is baaad bro very baaaaad

I work in a psychiatric facility and on our lab coats have our names and designations pinned to it... Psychiatrist, Psychotherapist, Social worker, Occupational therapist, Speech therapist etc.

Mindlog:


I work in a psychiatric facility and on our lab coats have our names and designations pinned to it... Psychiatrist, Psychotherapist, Social worker, Occupational therapist, Speech therapist etc.

I get that bro. I am getting at the public not distinguishing and some of them falsely claiming though. I am not against them wearing Lab coats oo. Just saying the manner at which they introduce themselves.

Legendforte:
I always observe that allied health workers in Nigeria attacks physicians and surgeons at any slightest opportunity

You are kidding right? Nigerian doctors are really some of the most hateful professionals out there. They are the only professionals known to have threatened to go on strike if the remunerations of other healthcare professionals are improved.
To put things in perspective, doctors in Canada threaten to go on strike if the welfare of other healthcare professionals isn't improved.

Zeeknow3245:

You must be an Allied Health disgruntled individual. I notice something about many of you guys. You people ignorant of your profession and how it is done in sane environments. You people are the Problem NOT doctors. Many of your Union president and board are sowing seed of discord and it will hunt you down. You choose second fiddle, play along with it and that's life.

i didn't read whatever gibberish you spewed. are you done crying I ask again? Mgbeke

vhuqnl:

i didn't read whatever gibberish you spewed. are you done crying I ask again? Mgbeke

Nigerians biggest problem is that they fail to read and comprehend even for those who seem literate.

NoHoper:

You are kidding right? Nigerian doctors are really some of the most hateful professionals out there. They are the only professionals known to have threatened to go on strike if the remunerations of other healthcare professionals are improved.
To put things in perspective, doctors in Canada threaten to go on strike if the welfare of other healthcare professionals isn't improved.

Hateful? A Doctor in any country in the world earns far higher than all other Allied Health professionals you know? They're right to protest incase you don't know. If a Nurse starting salary in the UK is increased to thirty thousand pounds you will see protest. A principal can never earn similar salary with a Teacher in the school. You don't ask for equality blindly.
What is JOHESU asking for first?

Zeeknow3245:

Nigerians biggest problem is that they fail to read and comprehend even for those who seem literate.

get off my deeq small boy, go pass your MB first. You students do pass yourselves, what your senior have no time for. go study hard or get thrown out to biology education.

are you not the boy studying vet medicine because of inability to study medicine? you are suffering from internalised VetMedphobia. you hate ur course but decide to project your hate on others. you need a psychiatrist. Defense or ego mechanism used wrongly leads to psychiatric disorder.

Zeeknow3245:

That's the problem boss. Many of them think because I wear Lab coat I am a Medical Doctor. A lab scientist is a Medical Doctor,A Pharmacist is a Medical Doctor,Same for an Optometrist and Physiotherapist. It is baaad bro very baaaaad

very twisted mind. what is the correlation of your reply to his post? you need help. hating others won't make u love vet medicine. buy another jamb form, so you don't cry of regret. friendly advice

vhuqnl:

very twisted mind. what is the correlation of your reply to his post? you need help. hating others won't make u love vet medicine. buy another jamb form, so you don't cry of regret. friendly advice

Thank God you've went through my Post. I won't pretend Veterinary Medicine is in its average point in Nigeria but it is a course that makes you an entrepreneur and very versatile. Veterinarians work in Agro industries (My chief concentration).
We don't play second fiddle in our profession. We are the boss of our fields. Even Animal Scientist trying to show their face know their boundaries. At Least in my profession my Tussle is with Animal Scientist and I don't get to play second fiddle.
In the Nigeria Centre for Disease and Control (NCDC) have a unit for Zoonoses where Veterinarians man the department.
The Veterinary department of ABU in conjunction with FUTMINNA was given a contract to build ventilators and they did spectacularly well.
We produce a substantial amount of our Drugs and Vaccines in Nigeria which is used.
We have our own Postgraduate college with several specialities involved and we don't need the approval of any Health Professional.
We are a branch of Medicine and it is globally accepted. In the UK, the newly released sorted health skill is Veterinary not even Nursing, your internet will do you good.
Many states Pay Veterinarians CONMESS in case you don't know check. We have quarantine department all over the federation where we monitor Animals and Animal products.
We are Licensed to import drugs, serums, other products and Animals whereas Pharmacist imports drugs,serums for humans only.
Medical Doctors respect us in their own light.
The top Renowned African Virologist is a Veterinarian incase you don't Know.
We can decide to take of Farm Animals or pets. We work in Zoonotic facilities all over the Federation.
Now as a Nurse what can you do with your degree aside treating People?

Zeeknow3245:

Thank God you've went through my Post. I won't pretend Veterinary Medicine is in its average point in Nigeria but it is a course that makes you an entrepreneur and very versatile. Veterinarians work in Agro industries (My chief concentration).
We don't play second fiddle in our profession. We are the boss of our fields. Even Animal Scientist trying to show their face know their boundaries. At Least in my profession my Tussle is with Animal Scientist and I don't get to play second fiddle.
In the Nigeria Centre for Disease and Control (NCDC) have a unit for Zoonoses where Veterinarians man the department.
The Veterinary department of ABU in conjunction with FUTMINNA was given a contract to build ventilators and they did spectacularly well.
We produce a substantial amount of our Drugs and Vaccines in Nigeria which is used.
We have our own Postgraduate college with several specialities involved and we don't need the approval of any Health Professional.
We are a branch of Medicine and it is globally accepted. In the UK, the newly released sorted health skill is Veterinary not even Nursing, your internet will do you good.
Many states Pay Veterinarians CONMESS in case you don't know check. We have quarantine department all over the federation where we monitor Animals and Animal products.
We are Licensed to import drugs, serums, other products and Animals whereas Pharmacist imports drugs,serums for humans only.
Medical Doctors respect us in their own light.
The top Renowned African Virologist is a Veterinarian incase you don't Know.
We can decide to take of Farm Animals or pets. We work in Zoonotic facilities all over the Federation.
Now as a Nurse what can you do with your degree aside treating People?

I repeat, hating on others won't make u love ur choices.
Go read your books concentrate on passing , and graduate. Stop trying to make yourself feel good.

I don't have time to read your epistle to the Ibadians or Romans.

vhuqnl:

I repeat, hating on others won't make u love ur choices.
Go read your books concentrate on passing , and graduate. Stop trying to make yourself feel good.

I don't have time to read your epistle to the Ibadians or Romans.

Did you hear any message of hate from my listed facts. You were trying to drag Vet into the thing and I gave you facts and you're there marveled? In the UK, Canada or US you can't compare Nursing to Veterinary Medicine so just hold your grief for yourself.
In Nigeria you can't even compare. Just like comparing Apples and Oranges

Zeeknow3245:

Did you hear any message of hate from my listed facts. You were trying to drag Vet into the thing and I gave you facts and you're there marveled? In the UK, Canada or US you can't compare Nursing to Veterinary Medicine so just hold your grief for yourself.
In Nigeria you can't even compare. Just like comparing Apples and Oranges

kid, go and read your books.

vhuqnl:
kid, go and read your books.

I would just let this slide

Zeeknow3245:

Thank God you've went through my Post. I won't pretend Veterinary Medicine is in its average point in Nigeria but it is a course that makes you an entrepreneur and very versatile. Veterinarians work in Agro industries (My chief concentration).
We don't play second fiddle in our profession. We are the boss of our fields. Even Animal Scientist trying to show their face know their boundaries. At Least in my profession my Tussle is with Animal Scientist and I don't get to play second fiddle.
In the Nigeria Centre for Disease and Control (NCDC) have a unit for Zoonoses where Veterinarians man the department.
The Veterinary department of ABU in conjunction with FUTMINNA was given a contract to build ventilators and they did spectacularly well.
We produce a substantial amount of our Drugs and Vaccines in Nigeria which is used.
We have our own Postgraduate college with several specialities involved and we don't need the approval of any Health Professional.
We are a branch of Medicine and it is globally accepted. In the UK, the newly released sorted health skill is Veterinary not even Nursing, your internet will do you good.
Many states Pay Veterinarians CONMESS in case you don't know check. We have quarantine department all over the federation where we monitor Animals and Animal products.
We are Licensed to import drugs, serums, other products and Animals whereas Pharmacist imports drugs,serums for humans only.
Medical Doctors respect us in their own light.
The top Renowned African Virologist is a Veterinarian incase you don't Know.
We can decide to take of Farm Animals or pets. We work in Zoonotic facilities all over the Federation.
Now as a Nurse what can you do with your degree aside treating People?

This is very insightful

Zeeknow3245:

You must be an Allied Health disgruntled individual. I notice something about many of you guys. You people ignorant of your profession and how it is done in sane environments. You people are the Problem NOT doctors. Many of your Union president and board are sowing seed of discord and it will hunt you down. You choose second fiddle, play along with it and that's life.

This is demeaning, without them, your work as a doc will not be complete, you guys are not above any other professions in the medical line.

In sane climes, a Doctor shouldn't be heading a whole hospital, the MD should be an administrator, which covers all and sundry because there are other professions working in hospitals too, you can only head your unit/department, simple, this nonsense of feeling above fly should stop, no one is above the other.

Biglittlelois:



This is demeaning, without them, your work as a doc will not be complete, you guys are not above any other professions in the medical line.

In sane climes, a Doctor shouldn't be heading a whole hospital, the MD should be an administrator, which covers all and sundry because there are other professions working in hospitals too, you can only head your unit/department, simple, this nonsense of feeling above fly should stop, no one is above the other.

You're wrong my sister in Saner countries, Medical Doctors head the hospital the only rival they have are those with MBA(Masters in Business Administration). JOHESU have lied and will continue to lie. In the US, UK and Canada, MLS, Radiography, Physiotherapy, Optometry, Orthotics and Prosthetics are under the following departments: Pathology, Radiology, Physical medicine,Opthalmology, Orthopaedics respectively.Nursing is somewhat independent in some states in the US but not in the UK. Why were these professions created? They boss everything. Can a Medical laboratory Scientist perform a full autopsy in a crime scene? In my Profession Veterinary Medicine, Our Veterinary teaching Hospital , Laboratory Scientist have no guts whatsoever to make one decision about a patient. We have almost all the departments in our profession. You give people opportunities, they abuse it.
In the UK and USA, Radiography has its Licensing board but are under the Radiology board. In MLS , American Society of Clinical Pathologist house the Licensing organisation Association of Clinical Laboratory Scientist. In the UK, Royal College of Pathologist License Laboratory Scientist. So have your facts first abeg before coming to defend these Liars JOHESU asking for equal pay and opportunities.
In many countries a Nurse can never ever sign a death certificate. A Physiotherapist can never perform surgery and many drugs are restricted for Physiotherapist administering.
If it was to be a position of Minister of Health, Commissioner for health, special advisor for health, then anybody can fill in.
In the UK a Nurse earns 18000 pounds for a start and then move upwards after many years of practice to 35000 pounds per year. A Medical doctor earns 25000-28000 thousand pounds per year and move up to 750000 pounds over the years. In the US, a Nurse earns 65000 dollars as an RN for a start and move upwards after specialities to 127000 dollars per year. Let me not talk much abeg.

Nigerians are prone to giving themselves titles they don't have the education for. Y'all call it "packaging".

Biglittlelois:



This is demeaning, without them, your work as a doc will not be complete, you guys are not above any other professions in the medical line.

In sane climes, a Doctor shouldn't be heading a whole hospital, the MD should be an administrator, which covers all and sundry because there are other professions working in hospitals too, you can only head your unit/department, simple, this nonsense of feeling above fly should stop, no one is above the other.

Ignore that OP. He is not even a medical doctor. He's just a veterinary student and he is poke nosing into the medical line as if it is his field.

femianski:

Ignore that OP. He is not even a medical doctor. He's just a veterinary student and he is poke nosing into the medical line as if it is his field.

. It is not poke nosing

femianski:

Ignore that OP. He is not even a medical doctor. He's just a veterinary student and he is poke nosing into the medical line as if it is his field.

Well Truth is bitter Sha. Just stating the obvious.
I am just a veterinary student. If you're an MBBS student and you're actually against my argument ehn, you need help. If you mean another Medical line? Yeah I like how you stated it. Mind you, don't just call Veterinary Just. Except you need further proof.

Zeeknow3245:

Well Truth is bitter Sha. Just stating the obvious.
I am just a veterinary student. If you're an MBBS student and you're actually against my argument ehn, you need help. If you mean another Medical line? Yeah I like how you stated it. Mind you, don't just call Veterinary Just. Except you need further proof.

Okay you have finally gained admission? Congrats!

True: Doctors don’t even head units here.
Nurse managers do.

Biglittlelois:



This is demeaning, without them, your work as a doc will not be complete, you guys are not above any other professions in the medical line.

In sane climes, a Doctor shouldn't be heading a whole hospital, the MD should be an administrator, which covers all and sundry because there are other professions working in hospitals too, you can only head your unit/department, simple, this nonsense of feeling above fly should stop, no one is above the other.