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Why Does Domestic Abuse Seem Common Among Pastors by NiRfreak(m): 10:38am On Apr 11, 2021
This is fast becoming a pattern too obvious for my curious mind to ignore.
One of the high profile case was Pastor Anita coming out to accuse Pastor Chris of domestic abuse and other accusations before they parted.
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There was some years back the one of TB Joshua trended as being a serial abuser of ladies in sexual relation with him.
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The church I attended in my undergraduate days gave another picture. A friend of mine went to stay with the pastor cos the pastor liked him and wanted to take and groom him like a mentee. On living with them, he saw alot of flaws in their seemingly perfect marriage. Cases of domestic abuse, pastors wife matching up to his violence, subsequent disregard and disrespect of the pastor by wife, and larger than life attitude of wife who became uncontrollable. But everything appears perfect in public.
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Then last year I came very close to a young chap in higher institution. We stay close and I know his father is a respected pastor. But the boy came to like me and we gisted unend about life and every topic u can think of. Before long he got comfortable enough to let me in about the challanges in his family. I couldn't believe my ears, though I feign to not be in shock so he won't beat himself for telling me.
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On multiple occasions he told me how he doesn't like his Dad's violent dictatorial style, he disclosed how he beats his mom on domestic issues. And his mom is such a respected pastor in the church, and the area.
Recently, I was listening to her preach from church while in my room, their speaker disturbs the neighborhood, she was dishing out bullet point about marriage and heaping praise on this same wife beating pastor. Also advising women of the joy of marriage...I'm like hmmm.
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I came wondering if it's not the same woman whose son told me she's a constant recipient of domestic abuse. I'm like is she content about it? Or does she see it as necessary evil for husband to beat her into submission?
Then why do pastors seem to easily resort to violence to put their pastor wife in check? This may sound like generalization, but I bet many of you may have one or two experience too.
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Perhaps those pastors feel the need to enforce their headship even though with force since they are deeply rooted in the partriachal example of the Bible as regard marriage. My opinion though
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Or perhaps it's psychological since they see themselves as powerful pastors whom people fear, so they might see their wife as someone who must obey or fear him even though with force.
Re: Why Does Domestic Abuse Seem Common Among Pastors by Ammishaddai: 10:54am On Apr 11, 2021
OP, there's nothing "common" in pastors abusing their wives. And there is also no statistic to support your basless claim, so don't start declaring lies all in a bid to ridicule people who you can never match up to.

Further more, not all pastors are pastors ; and the bible clearly tell us how to identity (Titus1:6). Anyone that does contrary to what the bible preaches is just serving himself and his sinful desires.

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Re: Why Does Domestic Abuse Seem Common Among Pastors by mountmoriah(m): 11:01am On Apr 11, 2021
Ammishaddai:
OP, there's nothing "common" in pastors abusing their. And there us also no statistic to support your basless claim, so don't start declaring lies all in a bid to ridicule people who you can never match up to.

Further more, not all pastors are pastors ; and the bible clearly tell us how to identity (Titus1:6). Anyone that does contrary to what the bible preaches is just serving himself and his sinful desires.
may u live longer than you even expect

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Re: Why Does Domestic Abuse Seem Common Among Pastors by gfon(m): 11:04am On Apr 11, 2021
Pastors are humans like you,not one god like some people take them to be.know this and know peace.
Re: Why Does Domestic Abuse Seem Common Among Pastors by NiRfreak(m): 11:04am On Apr 11, 2021
Ammishaddai:
OP, there's nothing "common" in pastors abusing their. And there us also no statistic to support your basless claim, so don't start declaring lies all in a bid to ridicule people who you can never match up to.

Further more, not all pastors are pastors ; and the bible clearly tell us how to identity (Titus1:6). Anyone that does contrary to what the bible preaches is just serving himself and his sinful desires.
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Statistics of anything doesn't fall from heaven.
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People who take interest in any subject area or issue usually go out to conduct polls, survey and at the end a statistical pattern might be seen after analysis.
In this case, if we are to get a significant statistics to back my claim, people like you have to be honest, church members must be honest and pastor's wife too when sampling and questonaire is put forward, but here you are preempting the need to even conduct survey on something curious enough.
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Re: Why Does Domestic Abuse Seem Common Among Pastors by Ammishaddai: 11:07am On Apr 11, 2021
NiRfreak:

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Statistics of anything dont fall from heaven.
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People who take interest in any subject area or issue usually go out to conduct polls, survey and at the end a statistical pattern might be seen after analysis.
In this case, if we are to get a significant statistics to back my claim, people like you have to be honest, church members must be honest when sampling and questonaire is put forward, but here you are preempting the need to even conduct survey on something curious enough.
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You've not conducted any survey ; yet you came to an illogical conclusion that has no root to support its validity. So do us all a favor and go and conduct a credible survey, and see if we will not support you. But until then, you owe alot of people apologies

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Re: Why Does Domestic Abuse Seem Common Among Pastors by NiRfreak(m): 11:13am On Apr 11, 2021
Ammishaddai:
You've not conducted any survey ; yet you came to an illogical conclusion that has no root to support its validity. So do us all a favor and go and conduct a credible survey, and see if we will not support you. But until then, you owe alot of people apologies

You seem to sound like a pastor, or their apologist. I may be wrong.
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Meanwhile, most statistics that arise after a survey is conducted are many times predicted even before survey... hypothesis sometimes become correct at the end of the day. Anecdotal evidence sometimes is enough to suspect something is brewing somewhere....so it's not until survey is out before one has the right to point out certain pattern. Let people lend their experience instead of shutting it down.
Re: Why Does Domestic Abuse Seem Common Among Pastors by chuksville(m): 11:17am On Apr 11, 2021
There are domestic abuses everywhere including amongst pastors, but to tag it as if it's predominantly more present amongst pastors is a huge misconception.
Re: Why Does Domestic Abuse Seem Common Among Pastors by Ammishaddai: 11:20am On Apr 11, 2021
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NiRfreak:


You seem to sound like a pastor, or their apologist. I may be wrong.
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Meanwhile, most statistics that arise after a survey is conducted are many times predicted even before survey... hypothesis sometimes become correct at the end of the day. Anecdotal evidence sometimes is enough to suspect something is brewing somewhere....so it's not until survey is out before one has the right to point out certain pattern. Let people lend their experience instead of shutting it down.
[/s]Conduct your survey first before coming online with baseless, factless accusations. And thank your God that this is "zoogeria" where rubbish flies. Had it been you were in the west, you would be sued for this rubbish you posted
Re: Why Does Domestic Abuse Seem Common Among Pastors by NiRfreak(m): 11:24am On Apr 11, 2021
chuksville:
There are domestic abuses everywhere including amongst pastors, but to tag it as if it's predominantly more present amongst pastors is a huge misconception.
Pastors are held in high standard of moral behavior, since that's what they preach. Their sermon and seminar on marriage seems to be the standard everyone are told to follow.

So a recurring pattern of abuse among them should raise a questioning eye about their honesty, character or practicality of what they preach.
Re: Why Does Domestic Abuse Seem Common Among Pastors by NiRfreak(m): 11:28am On Apr 11, 2021
Ammishaddai:
[s][/s]Conduct your survey first before coming online with baseless, factless accusations. And thank your God that this is "zoogeria" where rubbish flies. Had it been you were in the west, you would be sued for this rubbish you posted

Really? I will be sued for mentioning a pattern I saw?
If I say sexual immorality and exploitation is common among pastor, will I also be sued for this? even without survey would it be a wild claim to make? You are getting emotional, and unnecessarily precluding any attempt to x-ray the issue.
Re: Why Does Domestic Abuse Seem Common Among Pastors by Ammishaddai: 11:31am On Apr 11, 2021
NiRfreak:


Really? I will be sued for mentioning a pattern I saw?
If I say sexual immorality and exploitation is common among pastor, will I also be sued for this? even without survey would it be a wild claim to make? You are getting emotional, and unnecessarily precluding any attempt to x-ray the issue.
Oga, you're just an irrational liar with a hatred for pastors. Kindly go and conduct the survey and stop ticking my mentions with your hatred for the truth
Re: Why Does Domestic Abuse Seem Common Among Pastors by NiRfreak(m): 11:41am On Apr 11, 2021
Ammishaddai:
Oga, you're just an irrational liar with a hatred for pastors. Kindly go and conduct the survey and stop ticking my mentions with your hatred for the truth
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I don't hate pastors. But I won't be among who say they are too moral or holy to err.
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This post can serve as a mini-survey, if you allow people air their view instead of getting emotional as if your dirty secret is being let out
Re: Why Does Domestic Abuse Seem Common Among Pastors by Ammishaddai: 11:47am On Apr 11, 2021
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NiRfreak:

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I don't hate pastors. But I won't be among who say they are too moral of holy to be wrong.
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This post can serve as a mini-survey, if you allow people air their view instead of getting emotional as if your dirty secret is being let out
[/s] No survey done ; no fact with figures was taken ; no questionnaire was given to wives of pastors, yet you fill that Nairaland is the best survey site to collate your foolishness. Nice one....Kwantinue.
Re: Why Does Domestic Abuse Seem Common Among Pastors by NiRfreak(m): 11:51am On Apr 11, 2021
Ammishaddai:
[s][/s] No survey done ; no fact with figures was taken ; no questionnaire was given to wives of pastors, yet you fill that Nairaland is the best survey site to collate your foolishness. Nice one....Kwantinue.
This is a baseless attack coming from a wounded sentiment, this I know..

I listed on my post why I think so, many more instances I have seen which I can't narrate all on Nairaland..but u are hell-bent launching attacking.
Why not go and carry out survey on how pastors fvck their Church members before having the right to say it's common...
Re: Why Does Domestic Abuse Seem Common Among Pastors by Ammishaddai: 11:55am On Apr 11, 2021
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NiRfreak:

This is a baseless attack coming from a wounded sentiment, this I know..

I listed on my post why I think so, many more instances I have seen which I can't narrate all on Nairaland..but u are hell-bent launching attacking.
Why not go and carry out survey on how pastors fvck their Church members before having the right to say it's common...
[/s] Baseless accusations once again from a lying Nairalander who has a blinding hatred for pastors.
Re: Why Does Domestic Abuse Seem Common Among Pastors by NiRfreak(m): 12:04pm On Apr 11, 2021
Ammishaddai:
[s][/s] No survey done ; no fact with figures was taken ; no questionnaire was given to wives of pastors, yet you fill that Nairaland is the best survey site to collate your foolishness. Nice one....Kwantinue.

Well your attack and denial won't hide the truth..
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Ammishaddai:

https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-23/clergy-wives-speak-out-domestic-violence/9168096?nw=0

since you want to be irrational.

Re: Why Does Domestic Abuse Seem Common Among Pastors by NiRfreak(m): 12:11pm On Apr 11, 2021
Ammishaddai:
[s][/s] Baseless accusations once again from a lying Nairalander who has a blinding hatred for pastors.
When you are done reading this let me know.

https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-23/clergy-wives-speak-out-domestic-violence/9168096?nw=0

..I have more scholarly research about abuse by pastors from pastor's wife. Everything is not emotions.
Re: Why Does Domestic Abuse Seem Common Among Pastors by Ammishaddai: 12:12pm On Apr 11, 2021
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NiRfreak:


Well your attack and denial won't hide the truth..
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since you want to be irrational.
[/s] Oga, it seems you're not educated enough to know the difference between facts and opinions. Kindly read the headline in this article and compare it to title of your baseless post.

Also note that there are more than 1 million pastors worldwide and the number of recorded abusive relationships out of that number are less than even 1%...so your post (once again) is illogical, and without the actual facts.
Re: Why Does Domestic Abuse Seem Common Among Pastors by NiRfreak(m): 12:20pm On Apr 11, 2021
Ammishaddai:
[s][/s] Oga, it seems you're not educated enough to know the difference between facts and opinions. Kindly read the headline in this article and compare it to title of your baseless post.

Also note that there are more than 1 million pastors worldwide and the number of recorded abusive relationships out of that number are less than even 1%...so your post (once again) is illogical, and without the actual facts.

Lol...So it's only the headline you read and you are bleating about survey or research work when u can't even read abstract...Lol..such a wounded ego.

I don't expect you to read it cos it's quite exhaustive of pastors Domestic abuse. You can remain in your denial..but I will help you summarise and provide other links to research...
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Did you just say there are millions of pastors so they must all be interviewed before statistical significance is established? Dont talk like a statistical moronn pls. Lol
Re: Why Does Domestic Abuse Seem Common Among Pastors by NiRfreak(m): 12:32pm On Apr 11, 2021
Ammishaddai

Have you finished reading or you haven't gotten to the point where they say this in the report
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"Jane is part of a private online support group of Anglican clergy wives in New South Wales who were abused by their husbands.

They message each other or speak most days, providing a sympathetic ear or suggesting new counsellors when things are desperate.

What stunned them when they first met for dinner were two things. First, how many of them there were, and how common and continuing this problem seemed to be."

I know you will ask them for more survey lol...which is more than enough if u are ready to read...
or you can say ABC-news and research is not credible..lol
Re: Why Does Domestic Abuse Seem Common Among Pastors by Ammishaddai: 12:35pm On Apr 11, 2021
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NiRfreak:


Lol...So it's only the headline you read and you are bleating about survey or research work when u can't even read abstract...Lol..such a wounded ego.

I don't expect you to read it cos it's quite exhaustive of pastors Domestic abuse. You can remain in your denial..but I will help you summarise and provide other links to research...
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Did you just say there are millions of pastors so they must all be interviewed before statistical significance is established? Dont talk like a statistical moronn pls. Lol
[/s] Bros, I can see you're already masturbating to stupidity.Kudos! But kindly reread my post before adding your own jaàra.

P. S : By the way, I've already given you a hint on the number of pastors in the world. Now, do us all a favor provide the figures that show that most pastors are abusive in their relationships.
Re: Why Does Domestic Abuse Seem Common Among Pastors by Ammishaddai: 12:40pm On Apr 11, 2021
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NiRfreak:
Ammishaddai

Have you finished reading or you haven't gotten to the point where they say this in the report
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"Jane is part of a private online support group of Anglican clergy wives in New South Wales who were abused by their husbands.

They message each other or speak most days, providing a sympathetic ear or suggesting new counsellors when things are desperate.

What stunned them when they first met for dinner were two things. First, how many of them there were, and how common and continuing this problem seemed to be."

I know you will ask them for more survey lol...which is more than enough if u are ready to read...
or you can say ABC-news and research is not credible..lol
[/s] You're not making sense oga. These women were in abusive relationships, but where are the figures to show that most pastors are abusive to their wives? That's what I want you to provide because I can see you're already choosing stupidity in place of fact
Re: Why Does Domestic Abuse Seem Common Among Pastors by NiRfreak(m): 12:57pm On Apr 11, 2021
Ammishaddai:
[s][/s] You're not making sense oga. These women were in abusive relationships, but where are the figures to show that most pastors are abusive to their wives? That's what I want you to provide because I can see you're already choosing stupidity in place of fact
They were clergy wives..it's an exhaustive piece.. I know you won't read...just shouting and raising emotions like a typical licker of pastors ass
Re: Why Does Domestic Abuse Seem Common Among Pastors by Ammishaddai: 1:49pm On Apr 11, 2021
NiRfreak:

They were clergy wives..it's an exhaustive piece.. I know you won't read...just shouting and raising emotions like a typical licker of pastors ass
I can see you're a frustrated chap with an inferiority-complex.

Your hatred for pastors is so satanic, that you've taken the pains to come online and start generalizing that all pastors' wives suffer from abusive relationships. But failing to bring facts and figures to back up your claims. Nonsense
Re: Why Does Domestic Abuse Seem Common Among Pastors by NiRfreak(m): 1:58pm On Apr 11, 2021
Ammishaddai:
I can see you're a frustrated chap with an inferiority-complex.

Your hatred for pastors is so satanic, that you've taken the pains to come online and start generalizing that all pastors' wives suffer from abusive relationships. But failing to bring facts and figures to back up your claims. Nonsense
Stop twisting the narrative to garner sympathy because You think Pastors are untouchables who can get away with all forms of abuse of power in marriage.
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No where did I say all pastors wives suffer abuse,as that will be fallacy, as you tried to twist.
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I only maintain that domestic abuse is common with them ...and I gave you personal account...and a published report by ABC news to suggest it's common than reported...even the clergy wives who narrated their ordeal were astonished as to how many of them were affected....
Re: Why Does Domestic Abuse Seem Common Among Pastors by Ammishaddai: 2:09pm On Apr 11, 2021
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NiRfreak:

Stop twisting the narrate to garner sympathy because You think Pastors are untouchables who can get away with all forms of abuse power.
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No where did I say all pastors wives as you tried to twist. I only maintain that Domestic abuse is common with them...and I gave you personal account...and a published report by ABC news to suggest it's common than reported...even the clergy wives who narrated their ordeal were astonished as to how many of them were affected....
[/s]Oga, you're still being careless with words and you've failed to acknowledge that. When you say something is "common" , it means it is prevalent or widespread, and that is a generalization. Your post is passing the message that it is "common for pastors' wives to suffer abuse ". And that is a lie.

Accept the correction and move on.
Re: Why Does Domestic Abuse Seem Common Among Pastors by NiRfreak(m): 2:12pm On Apr 11, 2021
Ammishaddai:
[s][/s]Oga, you're still being careless with words and you've failed to acknowledge that. When you say something is "common" , it means it is prevalent or widespread, and that is a generalization. Your post is passing the message that it is "common for pastors' wives to suffer abuse ". And that is a lie.

Accept the correction and move on.

It's easy to hold on to your illusion, as u failed to read the report that was sent.
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Pastors wife go through alot, they keep it to themselves cos they have to protect the image of their husband, and ....unlike other women who aren't into ministry
Re: Why Does Domestic Abuse Seem Common Among Pastors by Ammishaddai: 2:19pm On Apr 11, 2021
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NiRfreak:


It's easy to hold on to your illusion, as u failed to read the report that was sent.
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Pastors wife go through alot, they keep it to themselves cos they have to protect the image of their husband, and ....unlike other women who aren't into ministry
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Provide the fact and figures and I'll gladly let go of my "illusions ". Until then, you remain a lying loser with a hatred for pastors.
Re: Why Does Domestic Abuse Seem Common Among Pastors by oluwatoyosi8755: 4:04pm On Apr 11, 2021
There are domestic abuses everywhere including amongst pastors, but to tag it as if it's predominantly more present amongst pastors is a huge misconception.

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Re: Why Does Domestic Abuse Seem Common Among Pastors by Ammishaddai: 4:07pm On Apr 11, 2021
oluwatoyosi8755:
There are domestic abuses everywhere including amongst pastors, but to tag it as if it's predominantly more present amongst pastors is a huge misconception.
That's what I've been trying to tell him, but he keeps making reference to silly articles that don't have figures or statistic to show that pastors' wives are victims of abuse.
Re: Why Does Domestic Abuse Seem Common Among Pastors by naija4life247: 7:58pm On Apr 11, 2021
I am a Muslim. Alfas abuse their wives more than Pastors, you cannot know until you are close.

If because you go to Mosque every Friday, you now consider yourself a Muslim and come here to defend nonsense, I will block you on the streets and beat you up mercilessly

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