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Which One Is Better? Deeper Life, Redeem, Winners Chapel. by akins4(m): 5:31am On Jul 11, 2007
please my bros and sisters i've tried all my best to stay in one nice church; but i have the difficulty of maintaining a domination.
i have gone to redeem, deeper life, winners chapel, pentecostal church, but i'm finding it difficult to stay in one place.
now that i have decided to stay in one place, which one is the best to church to attend?
what do u say to this?
Re: Which One Is Better? Deeper Life, Redeem, Winners Chapel. by jlsodai: 9:01pm On Jul 25, 2007
first to introduce myself.
i'm not a nigerian.
i'm a Ghanaian and i found this site interesting.
i think you should attend Deeper Life if you want to live a Deeper Life in the Lord.

their messages, perfect.

i really like Pastor Kumuyi. he is the best preacher i've ever heard smiley smiley

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Re: Which One Is Better? Deeper Life, Redeem, Winners Chapel. by toshmann(m): 11:06pm On Jul 25, 2007
this thread is not balanced. how about cherubim and seraphim, cele, OOO, aladura, etc
Re: Which One Is Better? Deeper Life, Redeem, Winners Chapel. by Swaltz(m): 12:25pm On Jul 26, 2007
"Know therefore that the Lord your God is God; he is the faithful God, keeping his covenant of love to a thousand generations of those who love him and keep his commands."
--Deuteronomy 7:9

Dear Beloved,

See listen once more before you make mistakes in your life! what matters is the heart not the church ok! i believe by the time you read the below message you will add stuff to your understanding. Though i worship with Redeem but i can get my revelation from anyone. it may Daddy E.A.ADEBOYE, PASTOR CHRIS, PASTOR OYEDEPOR AND OTHERS.

The sun is shining brightly with not a cloud in the sky. The birds are chirping. No disagreements hanging over your head. No pressures. All bills paid. Nothing but clear sailing. Little wonder you find yourself saying out loud, "Lord, this is great. You are wonderful!"

True, we get excited about God when circumstances are delightful, when the weather invigorates us, bills are paid, the medical check-up goes fine, and nobody is holding anything over our heads. When things are good, God is good. If things are bad, then God is off in Tasmania, taking care of little devils, or in the Middle East setting the stage for Armageddon.

We are so prone to let our circumstances – whether good or bad – dictate our view of God. But time and again the Bible tells us that God is faithful. He is not just a faithful God but the faithful God. He is the same steadfast and good Father yesterday, today, and forever. Scripture alone should be our frame of reference for who the Lord really is, for circumstances do not a good theology make.

Remember this lesson the next time you are quick to tell God how wonderful He is on a golden morning or a peaceful fireside evening. Whether the day is grand or gloomy, every day is a great day to give praise to God. * * * * *

"Why are you downcast, O my soul? Why so disturbed within me? Put your hope in God, for I will yet praise him, my Savior and my God." You are God my stronghold, send forth Your light and Your truth, let them guide me to You, my joy and my delight.



Blessings,

swaltz,
sforsza@yahoo.com

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Re: Which One Is Better? Deeper Life, Redeem, Winners Chapel. by pilgrim1(f): 12:35pm On Jul 26, 2007
@Swaltz,

Swaltz:

See listen once more before you make mistakes in your life! what matters is the heart not the church ok! i believe by the time you read the below message you will add stuff to your understanding. Though i worship with Redeem but i can get my revelation from anyone. it may Daddy E.A.ADEBOYE, PASTOR CHRIS, PASTOR OYEDEPOR AND OTHERS.

Enjoyed that. Thanks. smiley

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@akins4,
Perhaps one other question to consider would be what exactly you may be looking for when you attend any church. I know that in some instances, the particular branches of a particular denomination may fall far below your expectations in view of what you might thought of the mother church of that denomination.

All in all, ask the Lord to show you what He has in store for you - and I guarantee you He will lead you to where He has prepared brethren to help you find your place in the Body of Christ.

Regards.
Re: Which One Is Better? Deeper Life, Redeem, Winners Chapel. by clemcykul(f): 1:14pm On Jul 26, 2007
if ure really keen about attending church then i will calmly tell you that you really dont know what you are seeking for in your spritual growth and physical life, whats the essence of going to church you might ask? the importance of church going is to fellowship with other christains in spirit and in truth, receive the word of God with an obedient and meek heart, act on the word of God that you have heard to cause positive changes in every aspect of ur life. But beware of false prophets who blaspheme in the name of God but our greatest JOY is that the God of the just who do not sleep or slumber will surely destroy all false prophets in his time. Study and shew urself approved. READ UR BIBLE so that u wont be swayed by false doctrines of men.
Re: Which One Is Better? Deeper Life, Redeem, Winners Chapel. by jlsodai: 6:54am On Jul 28, 2007
thanx
Re: Which One Is Better? Deeper Life, Redeem, Winners Chapel. by calf(f): 5:03pm On Jul 28, 2007
well attend any bible believing church.
Re: Which One Is Better? Deeper Life, Redeem, Winners Chapel. by sophienwa(f): 1:52am On Jul 30, 2007
toshmann:

this thread is not balanced. how about cherubim and seraphim, cele, OOO, aladura, etc

toshmann, r u by any chance igbo?
Re: Which One Is Better? Deeper Life, Redeem, Winners Chapel. by edisha(m): 11:49am On Aug 01, 2007
my brother go down on your kneels and pray for God direction on where to go
I'm personally inviting all nairalanders to this great invent tagged: Youth Success Camp organized by Pastor Kumuyi of Deeper Life Bible Church.
date is on the 21st to 25th Aug 2007
venue: all Deeper Life Locations

Re: Which One Is Better? Deeper Life, Redeem, Winners Chapel. by Gamine(f): 12:01pm On Aug 01, 2007
this is wrong ooooh

how can u ask this
Re: Which One Is Better? Deeper Life, Redeem, Winners Chapel. by doyenn(m): 12:10pm On Aug 01, 2007
any one of them does not matter,what is matter is who you want to serve,is it God or pastors.Decide.
Re: Which One Is Better? Deeper Life, Redeem, Winners Chapel. by otokx(m): 2:37am On Aug 02, 2007
Knoew God by reading and meditating on the Bible as most churches being human institutions have their faillings.
Re: Which One Is Better? Deeper Life, Redeem, Winners Chapel. by lilvonz(m): 4:45pm On Aug 22, 2007
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Re: Which One Is Better? Deeper Life, Redeem, Winners Chapel. by Backslider(m): 2:22pm On Aug 27, 2007
@Akins

It depends on what you seek. You can attend deeper life and still go to hell. You must know what you seek. There are wolves in the house of God now and they will devour you.

You must however seek God. You need the Lord almighty to show the way and not the church. I used to believe in Church before but now I don't.

You will meet so many disappointments and frustration from people that say they are children of God some intentionally some unintentionally. Your main focus should be christ the author and finisher of our faith.


Study the life of Jesus, Paul and the other disciples. The bible should be your life you must study the bible so much in fear and love for the Lord God. You do this whilst visiting all this places. Any Church that focuses on physical blessing is a fallen Church.

Selah
Re: Which One Is Better? Deeper Life, Redeem, Winners Chapel. by tost(m): 2:36pm On Aug 27, 2007
None is better, all are okey. Just be sure where God wants you to be and all you need to suceed will locate you there
Re: Which One Is Better? Deeper Life, Redeem, Winners Chapel. by cgift(m): 3:55pm On Aug 27, 2007
their fouundations ar all th same, christ the cornerstone, the author and finisher of our faith but their core ministries are somewhat different.

Deeper Life - Salvation + Holiness
Redeem - Salvation + Simplicity + Evangelism + Breakthrough
Winners - Salvation + Humility + Prosperity

You can see that Salvation is in all, cos that is the very key to all others including holiness, breakthrough, prosperity etc.

So, pick one.
Re: Which One Is Better? Deeper Life, Redeem, Winners Chapel. by Backslider(m): 12:45pm On Aug 28, 2007
@Cgift

Holiness Without which no man shall see the Lord. The holiness that Deeper lifers that are Christians Exhibit is good but there will be more holy men saved sanctified and fill with the pure holy Ghost of old.

Just watch out for holy Men from other places, it is now very difficult to live a holy life. It is not just ok to be have salvation. True Christian Seek perfection in Christ but "the care of this world Christians" seek marriage Prosperity to the detriment of their soul.

To be Holy will be an abomination soon.
Re: Which One Is Better? Deeper Life, Redeem, Winners Chapel. by cgift(m): 2:34pm On Aug 28, 2007
@Backslider, you came with very heavy words that almost dropped tears from my eyes spcially when you said to be holy will be an abomination soon.

They teach thse things also in other places but th major reason why teachings on prosperity came to the limelight was the way most christains were living substandard lives all in the name of Christ. Unbelievers wre having a field day and despising children of God. This has changed to a large extent now. We also need riches to propagate the gospel, feed the pure and practice pure religion (Jms 1:27).

In the real sense of it, a christain should be more humbled by his riches knowing that it is all from God and he should bless God with them. Remember, money, the bible says, is a defence.

May God help us to set our prorities right and combine all thse great attributes (Salvation+Holiness+Prosperity). AMEN

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Re: Which One Is Better? Deeper Life, Redeem, Winners Chapel. by Backslider(m): 3:05pm On Aug 28, 2007
@cgift

I must state that I don't have any hate or disgust for you or anyone in this site.

Now let us reason.

The bible is our basic foundation so what did it say of the end times. The love of many shall grow cold there shall be lawlessness and there will no more be holiness.

if you have read about the life of Wesley you will weep more. The end of cheap holiness is at hand you are either in or out. Soon you will be attacked because you are holy but not to worry the spirit of the most high will raise his standard and they that know their God Shall perform exploit.

Cant you sense it the desire for material things has made people hate God.

Look at John The baptist he was a man of God he was weary self satisfaction. he took the high road of holiness. This same Christians use John the baptist and accuse him of all kinds of things and say because of this he was beheaded.

They have forgotten that it was by his (Herod) daughter dancing (Sexual arousal) that his head was requested. This same Church Dance (Sexual Arousal) and sing to God so that they can get something.

The Church is producing an army of immoral men.
Re: Which One Is Better? Deeper Life, Redeem, Winners Chapel. by cgift(m): 5:17pm On Aug 28, 2007
Backslider:

@cgift

I must state that I don't have any hate or disgust for you or anyone in this site.


I believe so my brother. No hard feelings.


Backslider:


The bible is our basic foundation so what did it say of the end times. The love of many shall grow cold there shall be lawlessness and there will no more be holiness.

if you have read about the life of Wesley you will weep more. The end of cheap holiness is at hand you are either in or out. Soon you will be attacked because you are holy but not to worry the spirit of the most high will raise his standard and they that know their God Shall perform exploit.

Cant you sense it the desire for material things has made people hate God.

How do you mean by the words i have emboldened? Are you saying in essence that we cant be rich and still be holy? Holiness i believe does not quarantin me from the rest of the world, does it? I should not wear rags because i am oly should i? I may need more insights into what you are trying to say.

Backslider:

They have forgotten that it was by his (Herod) daughter dancing (Sexual arousal) that his head was requested. This same Church Dance (Sexual Arousal) and sing to God so that they can get something.

The Church is producing an army of immoral men.

While there might be some ladies who primarily go to church to display their unclothedness or shake their body parts all in the name of dancing, it does not mean that that is what the church authorities want. A correction is going on as you well know in most of these churches as they have seen that the flesh loves the world and has to be checked. All these notwithstanding, i think my billions will only make me more humble than ever before.

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Re: Which One Is Better? Deeper Life, Redeem, Winners Chapel. by Backslider(m): 6:34pm On Aug 28, 2007
I am not concerned of billions that will be made by men. However there is the propensity for us to ask this question over and over again as if in asking we can bend the mind of God.

This is what the bible says Jesus himself said so. It is easier the Carmel to pass the eye of the Needle than for a rich man to get into the kingdom of God.

People will read all kinds of meaning into this.

If Gods says only the quarantine will be saved will you say because others are well in sin and that you sick filled with holiness.

Abraham was holy he was rich
Solomon was Rich and he backslide


Abraham was truly humble meek he was highly spiritual. Material things did not matter to Abraham.

If you want me to speak to you directly I am sorry I cannot.

I will post to you some messages that you can listen to.

I don't like to give people this link but please listen online

http://www.davidwilkerson.org/sermons/



1) Listen To the Shiloh Church vs. Samuel Church
2) Listen to ANOTHER GOSPEL

by DAVID WILKERSON.

You will have to scroll down and look for the message.
Re: Which One Is Better? Deeper Life, Redeem, Winners Chapel. by tnaidaR(f): 9:53pm On Aug 31, 2007
@poster,

Since you've attended many Churches, don't you think you're a better position to choose which one you're happy with? We may not have attended as many Churches and besides who are we to tell you which Church to attend?

D'u people reason at all?
Re: Which One Is Better? Deeper Life, Redeem, Winners Chapel. by niceuzor: 10:11pm On Sep 01, 2007
And is because you are not making sense

~~~ trying and Contribute and Stop mooping!! grin
Re: Which One Is Better? Deeper Life, Redeem, Winners Chapel. by niceuzor: 10:11pm On Sep 01, 2007
@poster

Abeg Church na Church Oh try attend One you hear!!!
Re: Which One Is Better? Deeper Life, Redeem, Winners Chapel. by larriederm(m): 11:48am On Sep 03, 2007
hi, let me tell you somthing, IT IS NOT WHERE U GO THAT MATTER, IT IS WHO U ARE! SEE , all this man of god have different gift according to how they are called! so u can expect them to talk the same way. and u know what? they do see them self, am a winners member o, in short winning winner, and i know without any doubt that papa is a true man of god. so just work on ur self and be satisfy with ur mind. cos out of the abundant of heart the mouth speaketh o! so i will like to invite you and all nairalander to a 'NIGHT WITH KING' COMING UP ON FRIDAY 7 SEPT, 2008. I TELL U UR LIFE WILL NOT REMAIN THE SAME AGAIN.
GOD BLESS U,GOD BLESS NIGERIA.

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Re: Which One Is Better? Deeper Life, Redeem, Winners Chapel. by cgift(m): 12:28pm On Sep 04, 2007
larriederm:

hi, let me tell you somthing, IT IS NOT WHERE You GO THAT MATTER, IT IS WHO You ARE! SEE , all this man of god have different gift according to how they are called! so u can expect them to talk the same way. and u know what? they do see them self, am a winners member o, in short winning winner, and i know without any doubt that papa is a true man of god. so just work on your self and be satisfy with your mind. because out of the abundant of heart the mouth speaketh o! so i will like to invite you and all Nairaland user to a 'NIGHT WITH KING' COMING UP ON FRIDAY 7 SEPT, 2008. I TELL You UR LIFE WILL NOT REMAIN THE SAME AGAIN.
GOD BLESS You,GOD BLESS NIGERIA.

tell them jare.
Re: Which One Is Better? Deeper Life, Redeem, Winners Chapel. by MasterUwem(m): 11:47am On Nov 20, 2007
what about catholic church and Assemblies of God
Re: Which One Is Better? Deeper Life, Redeem, Winners Chapel. by Meldrick(m): 2:30pm On Nov 20, 2007
I really don't understand if u asked this question because u want to know or u want to have fun or , ? but if you are a Christian, you should know that your denomination does not matter but your personnal reationship with God. Don't forget, "WE ARE ONE BODY IN CHRIST". No man has the right to start judging or making comparisons with annoited men of God. I advise you continue worshipping God, and forget those questions.
Re: Which One Is Better? Deeper Life, Redeem, Winners Chapel. by Ndipe(m): 2:34am On Nov 21, 2007
All what matters is to have a personal relationship with God, instead of fretting over which Church is the right One to attend. Sure, having a fellowship with believers is extremely important in our walk with God which is the reason why attending Church is crucial. But at the same time, please dont just hop into any organization that claims to be a Church, because their teachings could be different from the Holy Bible. As for me, I attend two churches, one during the weekday and on Sunday, worship at Baptist Church.

Best wishes!
Re: Which One Is Better? Deeper Life, Redeem, Winners Chapel. by dafidixone(m): 1:09pm On Nov 21, 2007
Jesus Christ is the only one I will recommend. grin

Church may not take you to where you should should be. Avoid Churchism take Christ for real and He only will tell you where to find the true believers.

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Re: Which One Is Better? Deeper Life, Redeem, Winners Chapel. by MasterUwem(m): 11:59am On Nov 22, 2007
deeper life

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