Greetings fellow nairalanders, I just wanted to ask if the south east lawmakers in both chamber's formally request for a referendum if they will be granted, if the answer to the above is yes or no i think there is no harm in trying, I will advise the likes of IPOB and all that needed Biafra to persuade their lawmakers from the region to do the needful, it is after this move before people can take it serious. The lawmakers in question from the south east region at the national level from the 4 eastern States is less than 70 people, I think it is easier to persuade those numbers to do the needful than every day blood shared. Thanks please don't mind my English na night school I go.

CorperateDesign:
Good question

I think this should be the first action these agitators supposed to have taken instead of trying to create a new country on Nairaland

The law , as constituted, does not allow for referendum for secession

However, what can be done is to amend the constituion to allow for a referendum for secession...which is a process requiring a two-third majority in the Senate, House of reps, plus two thirds of all state assemblies.

Following..

Lazycapitalist2:
The law , as constituted, does not allow for referendum for secession

However, what can be done is to amend the constituion to allow for a referendum for secession...which is a process requiring a two-third majority in the Senate, House of reps, plus two thirds of all state assemblies.

what if Abaribe and his colleagues stages a walk out in protest for that amendment you are talking about, because you and I know without that it is not possible, will there voice not be hard?

The question should be "Will the lawmakers retain their seats when the online republic of BIAFRA becomes a reality?"

PissfulProtester:
The question should be "Will the lawmakers retain their seats when the online republic of BIAFRA becomes a reality?"

the number 1 enemy to the actualization of Biafra is not the Fulani or the Yoruba Moslem the enemy is the lawmakers from the region who have refused to ask, as it stands any body have ask for Biafra or Oduduwa republic

stanleyravos:
Greetings fellow nairalanders, I just wanted to ask if the south east lawmakers in both chamber's formally request for a referendum if they will be granted, if the answer to the above is yes or no i think there is no harm in trying, I will advise the likes of IPOB and all that needed Biafra to persuade their lawmakers from the region to do the needful, it is after this move before people can take it serious. The lawmakers in question from the south east region at the national level from the 4 eastern States is less than 70 people, I think it is easier to persuade those numbers to do the needful than every day blood shared. Thanks please don't mind my English na night school I go.

It would be pointless. To get referendum in the national assembly, you need 2 third majority or 67%

The entire lawmakers in the SE/SS/SW dont have up to 45% vote at the national assembly

So where will the South East get 67% votes needed to pass a bill on referendum? Its impossible

stanleyravos:
what if Abaribe and his colleagues stages a walk out in protest for that amendment you are talking about, because you and I know without that it is not possible, will there voice not be hard?

It will still generate the same response...the constitution does not allow for referenda to be held on secession (or indeed on any other matter)

The walkout , though symbolic, won't achieve much.

stanleyravos:
the number 1 enemy to the actualization of Biafra is not the Fulani or the Yoruba Moslem the enemy is the lawmakers from the region who have refused to ask, as it stands any body have ask for Biafra or Oduduwa republic

How do you expect them to demand for Biafra or oduduwa republic, when they know well that Biafra and Oduduwa, if actualised can't pay them a quarter of what a united Nigeria pays them?

Can't you see that the issue has never bn brought up in the house? This is why we keep saying those shouting Biafla and Oduduwa are just noise makers..

The lawmakers are decamping from APC to PDp and vise versa on a daily basis,..Is this not enough to prove to you they are not even bothered about the secession noise?

Instead of shouting Biafla and all, why not hold your representatives up there responsible? Whatever grievance you have can always be channeled through them

gidgiddy:


It would be pointless. To get referendum in the national assembly, you need 2 third majority or 67%

The entire lawmakers in the SE/SS/SW dont have up to 45% vote at the national assembly

So where will the South East get 67% votes needed to pass a bill on referendum? Its impossible

if you want to see protest that is worst than ENDSARS let the south east lawmakers forum stage a walk out from both chambers saying give us Biafra or we are not doing, they they both speakers should suspend them and see protest

stanleyravos:
I think this should be the first action these agitators supposed to have taken instead of trying to create a new country on Nairaland

Nnamdi Kanu doesn't want to take such civilised method because it will affect his donations.Blood and anarchy brings in more cash.

Well they'll need to lobby the other regions lawmakers to support their cause for that to happen.

But it seems igbos equate lobbying/politicking to slavery/ass licking and think everyone else is too beneath them to plead so that's unlikely to happen.

Quagmire.

stanleyravos:
if you want to see protest that is worst than ENDSARS let the south east lawmakers forum stage a walk out from both chambers saying give us Biafra or we are not doing, they they both speakers should suspend them and see protest

You can stage all the walkout you want but the law is still the law. You will still need 67% vote. If it was that easy, the entire south and parts of the middle belt would have staged walkout to get Nigeria restructured. But even all of them combined cannot get get 67% because the core North has about 40% vote

@Seun how much should I pay for this topic to reach front page? I now since is not about bandits,UGM, and snake it will be hard

Ojiofor:


Nnamdi Kanu doesn't want to take such civilised method because it will affect his donations.Blood and anarchy brings in more cash.

In as much as I do not really fancy mnk, but plss don't bring him into the picture for we all know how that will end.
This is a very educative discussion and I dare say I am learning well enough from the little response I have read here.

Don't create an unnecessary fuelled up hullabaloo and banter here.

ablejesus26:


In as much as I do not only fancy mnk, but plss don't bring him into the picture for we all know how that will end.
This is a very educative discussion and I dare say I am learning well enough from the little response I have read here.

Don't create an unnecessary fuelled up hullabaloo and banter here.

God bless you the next thing is to call names instead of leaning

QuotaSystem:
Well they'll need to lobby the other regions lawmakers to support their cause for that to happen.

But it seems igbos equate lobbying/politicking to slavery/ass licking and think everyone else is too beneath them to plead so that's unlikely to happen.

Quagmire.

Thanks at the bolded.
Even though you ended up trying to sound somewhat insultive.

I believe it might come to a level, with all this unhampered ballyhoo and bluster-bobbery, we keep having in this failed project,that this political and traditional principalities holding this civic responsibility to humanity and social decorum,will have no option than to boycott their highly exteemed greed for a taste of the national cake and cede to the call of the people.

Once the leaders from at least 3 of the major region falls in line, then we can all kiss Nigeria goodbye.

There is no referendum/secession in Nigeria constitution, Nnamdi Azikwe was one of those who rejected the clause in the constitution.

There must be a change in constitution before debating about referendum

ablejesus26:


Thanks at the bolded.
Even though you ended up trying to sound somewhat insultive.

I believe it might come to a level, with all this unhampered ballyhoo and bluster-bobbery, we keep having in this failed project,that this political and traditional principalities holding this civic responsibility to humanity and social decorum,will have no option than to boycott their highly exteemed greed for a taste of the national cake and cede to the call of the people.

Once the leaders from at least 3 of the major region falls in line, then we can all kiss Nigeria goodbye.

Well that's the vibe they give. Pure arrogance.

99% of Ndigbo political difficulties boils down to pride, arrogance and a chronic reluctance to stoop to conquer. Otherwise they would at least attempt to lobby reps and senators from other regions to support constitutional amendment to allow referendum.

Same hubris is what makes them think they can demand presidency instead of rolling up their sleeves and lobbying nationwide to win support like Tinubu is doing so effectively.

helinues:
There is no referendum/secession in Nigeria constitution, Nnamdi Azikwe was one of those who rejected the clause in the constitution.

There must be a change in constitution before debating about it

Hmm then perhaps the various leaders of each region should stand up and boycott every civic responsibility to Nigeria and come under the calling of the majority of the people they represent and start a radical evangelism to eradicate and scrap this evil Constitution.
I was an adamant fan to one Nigeria, but as it stands now it's as clear as a bell that we will be doing ourselves a greater deal of good to split this thing and go our separate ways in peace.

People keep dying for a Country where it's citizens do not even consider themselves as one.

ablejesus26:


Hmm then perhaps the various leaders of each region should stand up and boycott every civic responsibility to Nigeria and come under the calling of the majority of the people they represent and start a radical evangelism to eradicate and scrap this evil Constitution.
I was an adamant fan to one Nigeria, but as it stands now it's as clear as a bell that we will be doing ourselves a greater deal of good to split this thing and go our separate ways in peace.

People keep dying for a Country where it's citizens do not even consider themselves as one.

The change in constitution is long over due but I really don't know why our lawmakers have not debated about it.. That one on its own is a long process.

As for boycotting, are the leaders ready to talk about change in constitution? What are they boycotting when they are benefiting from the unworkable constitution

helinues:
There is no referendum/secession in Nigeria constitution, Nnamdi Azikwe was one of those who rejected the clause in the constitution.

There must be a change in constitution before debating about referendum

Which constitution/referendum did they use to create Midwest region in 1963?

Ojiofor:


Which constitution/referendum did they use to create Midwest region in 1963?

So creating is the same as dissolution?

helinues:


The change in constitution is long over due but I really don't know why our lawmakers have not debated about it.. That one on its own is a long process.

As for boycotting, are the leaders ready to talk about change in constitution? What are they boycotting when they are benefiting from the unworkable constitution

If you know the power of the people, first how many lawmakers do we have? Listen if 4 million people protest to the national assembly with the slogan amend the Constitution or you are not coming out from the chamber! Oga not even the army can help them am telling you,if Manchester and Liverpool match can be postponed because of protest what are you saying

helinues:


So creating is the same as dissolution?

Creating through REFERENDUM that you claimed Zik removed from our constitution.

stanleyravos:
If you know the power of the people, first how many lawmakers do we have? Listen if 4 million people protest to the national assembly with the slogan amend the Constitution or you are not coming out from the chamber! Oga not even the army can help them am telling you,if Manchester and Liverpool match can be postponed because of protest what are you saying

Average Nigerians want to go to heaven but they are not ready to die...

You see the protest you are talking about, na the leaders of the protest go first start their saboteur..

It's time for each region to start holding their representatives responsible... Senators, House of Rep members and state assembly should be the mouth of the masses but they are are under bondage of both state and Fg

Ojiofor:


Creating through REFERENDUM that you claimed Zik removed from our constitution.

What are you talking about?

FG can create more states and more regions, but letting regions/states go is not in the constitution...

helinues:


What are you talking about?

FG can create more states and more regions, but letting regions/states go is not in the constitution...

FG created only one region that came via referendum that you claim Zik removed from constitution.

Ojiofor:

FG created only one region that came via referendum that you claim Zik removed from constitution.

Go back to my comments, this time read gently

Valid Question..
That is what Nnamdi Kanu should have done. Create a pro-Biafran party and make sure all the lawmakers in the entire Igbo land are elected under the party and from there these lawmakers can demand for referendum.
Whether or not sessession clause is in the Nigerian constitution.