I'm curious. To know if Atheists do pray. I can't imagine a human being won't have cause to call on a higher authority for help at various times of. his life on earth. Someone once told me its impossible not to ever pray. He said he. once caught an Atheist exclaim 'oh God' during a bout of misfortune. So Atheists, let's hear your view.

When I was an atheist I never called on a higher authority since it would be absurd to be calling on a higher authority I knew did not exist.

Now as a theist, I still do not pray because God is supposed to know what I require long before I was born, and why should I worry about tomorrow when I am supposedly more important than the birds and the bees?

What I do do is meditate, as in listen quietly, and then whatever I would have been praying for comes as a silent voice to inform me how to make what I would pray for come to pass.

chidubem20:
I'm curious. To know if Atheists do pray. I can't imagine a human being won't have cause to call on a higher authority for help at various times of. his life on earth. Someone once told me its impossible not to ever pray. He said he. once caught an Atheist exclaim 'oh God' during a bout of misfortune. So Atheists, let's hear your view.

Yes they do but they won't admit it here. Just wait for the one outside on the day of his calamity and see how he shall pray to everyone Above, including his pious grandma!

Dtruthspeaker:


Yes they do but they won't admit it here. Just wait for the one outside on the day of his calamity and see how he shall pray to everyone Above, including his pious grandma!

Some might. Unless you want to claim I lie.

Atheist obviously get levels. Some merely believe there are no Gods, and when the winds blow they abandon their disbelief because it had no foundation, while some know there are no Gods because they built their understanding on rocks.

budaatum:
When I was an atheist I never called on a higher authority since it would be absurd to be calling on a higher authority I knew did not exist.

This was when you still had a handle on things, but when it went out of hand, a prayer involuntarily seeped out of your lips!

budaatum:


Some might. Unless you want to claim I lie.

Atheist obviously get levels. Some merely believe there are no Gods, and when the winds blow they abandon their disbelief because it had no foundation,

budaatum:

while some know there are no Gods because they built their understanding on rocks.

The Bold: This is Impossible for All Solid Rocks Belong to God!

Thank God No Atheist made "Solid Rocks" so therefore, it can not be their own.

It belongs to Another!

Dtruthspeaker:


This was when you still had a handle on things, but when it went out of hand, a prayer involuntarily seeped out of your lips!

You can believe what you want to believe and ignore the truth if you want to. I can only tell you my own experience. Take it or leave it as you may.

For your information, I have had situations I had no handle on that you can only imagine in your wildest dreams. I did not pray as an atheist then because I knew there was no God, and I do not pray now because the Lord is my Shepherd who provides me with everything I need. But perhaps such faith is beyond the compression of some.

Dtruthspeaker:






The Bold: This is Impossible for All Solid Rocks Belong to God!

Thank God No Atheist made "Solid Rocks" so therefore, it can not be their own.

It belongs to Another!

"Belongs to God", regardless of the thinking or belief a mere human creates in one's head.

That's why Jesus can ask you to emulate a pagan nonGod worshipping nor believing Samaritan instead of a God believing Levite ir Priest.

Fruits are more important than the crap one believes in one's head.

budaatum:

You can believe what you want to believe and ignore the truth if you want to. I can only tell you my own experience. Take it or leave it as you may.

Yeah I know! And I do not believe it but please hold on, my answer below would complete the remaining portions of my statement here!

budaatum:

For your information, I have had situations I had no handle on that you can only imagine in your wildest dreams. I did not pray as an atheist then because I knew there was no God, and I do not pray now because the Lord is my Shepherd who provides me with everything I need. But perhaps such faith is beyond the compression of some.

Contd. So as I wanted to say above, I am also very much aware that I can not Truthfully prove you wrong here and at this time for I have no Truthful personal knowledge of you, therefore I can not Truly say if you say the Truth or otherwise or that you were not aware when a prayer escaped your lips.

For the Judgement of one Atheist, without valid connection can not be the judgmental of another atheist. It is an independent judgement and I am very well aware of it.

However, I was simply expressing my own reasonable opinion without more that I do not believe you, because I know the ordinary reasonable man and that we are all the same.

We cry when hurt and we laugh when tickled, we run away from harm and we embrace pleasure.

The only exceptions to these behaviours are Insane Persons or Abnormal persons!

I believe most people who grew up in religious environments have the tendency to say or, at least, muter what could be akin to words of prayer in times of distress. However, this isn’t necessarily because they believe in any suprem being but primarily cause human beings are creatures of habit and the way you express shock remains fairly the same regardless of your new found belief. Some people might keep repeating "God, please, no" whenever they are in distress or scream "Jesu!" when in shock, and that wouldn't mean they acknowledge the existence of God (they barely even think of what they're saying). It's just how they've grown to express fear or shock. Such utterances don't make the person less atheistic, and it’s definitely not something religious people should hold on to as a sign of supremacy. It's simply human nature, and religion is supposed to be a thing of the heart.

budaatum:

"Belongs to God", regardless of the thinking or belief a mere human creates in one's head.

The Contents and beliefs of one's head can not be reached or inter-meddled with but once brought to the open air, they become subjects of Tests and comments!

budaatum:
Fruits are more important than the crap one believes in one's head.

Fruits require Trees and Trees require GROUNDS and my Ground is the Ground of Fair Comment and Scrutiny of A Material put in Public Space!

WoundedLamb:
I believe most people who grew up in religious environments have the tendency to say or, at least, muter what could be akin to words of prayer in times of distress. However, this isn’t necessarily because they believe in any suprem being but primarily cause human beings are creatures of habit and the way you express shock remains fairly the same regardless of your new found belief. Some people might keep repeating "God, please, no" whenever they are in distress or scream "Jesu!" when in shock, and that wouldn't mean they acknowledge the existence of God (they barely even think of what they're saying). It's just how they've grown to express fear or shock. Such utterances don't make the person less atheistic, and it’s definitely not something religious people should hold on to as a sign of supremacy. It's simply human nature, and religion is supposed to be a thing of the heart.

Sweet, Fair and Reasonable Analysis especially the highlighted which directly answers the Ops question.

They are not really in query as to if they believe in Prayer/God but the question was "do they ever pray in the face of adversity"

And by your answer, you show that a Prayer or 2 leaks out of their lips even if involuntarily!

Dtruthspeaker:


because I know the ordinary reasonable man and that we are all the same.

The above is the flaw in your argument.

We are not all ordinary and we are not all reasonable and we are definitely not all the same.

If I were to assume the above about you, that you are an "ordinary reasonable man (which you might likely be), and that "we are all the same" instead of recognising your uniqueness, I would never bother to try to understand and comprehend the uniqueness in how you express yourself and the uniqueness of the meaning of your expressions, and will constantly be accusing you of lying or being wrong because you are not the same as me. You will then be my enemy and I will be unable to love you by at least assuming you will be honest and by therefore giving you the benefit of doubt that you will not intentionally lie to me.

Please confirm that you are aware that you are unique, in your thinking, at least.

Dtruthspeaker:


The Contents and beliefs of one's head can not be reached or inter-meddled with but once brought to the open air, they become subjects of Tests and comments!


Fruits require Trees and Trees require GROUNDS and my Ground is the Ground of Fair Comment and Scrutiny of A Material put in Public Space!

I am the tree, and my words and actions are my fruits that I put in public space and bring to open air for you to test and comment.

Judge them Dtruth, by a standard I am sure you will find Godly and which I post below again, and not by what you think are my beliefs, which we agree can not be reached or inter-meddled with.

Nah

Dtruthspeaker:


Sweet, Fair and Reasonable Analysis especially the highlighted which directly answers the Ops question.

They are not really in query as to if they believe in Prayer/God but the question was "do they ever pray in the face of adversity"

And by your answer, you show that a Prayer or 2 leaks out of their lips even if involuntarily!

Well... yes, you could actually say that. But is it really a prayer if it's not from the heart? What difference does it really make? It's just like any other exclamation to such persons with no religious significance, one they grew up using. I honestly don't think there's any point to be scored here. It's just like asking an ex Muslim why he still has the black dot on his forehead if he doesn't believe in Allah anymore. These things don't just disappear regardless of your current religion. Again, I said "most people... " and not all.

budaatum:

I am the tree, and my words and actions are my fruits that I put in public space and bring to open air for you to test and comment.

Judge them Dtruth, by a standard I am sure you will find Godly and which I post below again, and not by what you think are my beliefs, which we agree can not be reached or inter-meddled with.

I have already given my judgement I do not Acquit you nor Convict you of your Statement neither have I placed you on trial.

But if I have, then I hereby release you and say that you are free to go.

Dtruthspeaker:


I have already given my judgement I do not Acquit you not Convict you of your Statement neither have I placed you on trial.

But if I have, then I release you and say that you are free to go.

I am free regardless of your judgement, dtruth.
Jesus Christ has set me free so you do not need to.

WoundedLamb:

Well... yes, you could actually say that. But is it really a prayer if it's not from the heart?

This is the Law "Guard your heart with all diligence FOR OUT OF IT ARE THE ISSUES OF LIFE" (And Death, I respectfully say)

Your heart Controls All whether you are aware or not!

But it's best to be aware.