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Re: Hundeyin Replies Akpabio: Authorise MTN, Airtel To Release Voice Records by LeJeun3: 4:34pm On May 14, 2021


Sometimes it’s okay to talk anyhow…..

However, lemme ask you. Have you ever read terms and conditions when buying a SIM card, or registering on any network……

Have you called the customer service line and heard ‘’ this call may be recorded for training purposes”, did you end the call after hearing that?!

Take the networks to court ��




design106:
cool
Here's the thing. Authorizing the release of the voice notes will confirm 2 things.
1. That Network Providers actually record private call sessions between paying customers without their permission.
2. Make everyone realize that there's nothing like privacy when it comes to the network providers who we trust with our funds and data.

Maybe they're both the same thing but you get the point.
Look for the right and legal means to get your facts else you'll just be the same as the evil people who are fighting to keep this matter silenced.

Best of luck though.

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Re: Hundeyin Replies Akpabio: Authorise MTN, Airtel To Release Voice Records by Xpol: 4:38pm On May 14, 2021
WaffenSS:


You're as ignorant as the last guy.

No telcos anywhere record any conversation.

Imagine the chaotic implications fit or privacy, confidentiality, national security, business trade secrets, blackmail etc.

Besides the moral and ethical question and the attendant outrage, laws prevent them.

You think any society would allow south african and indian companies to come set shop and start recording private and intimate conversations that they and their staff have easy access to?

Think with your head and not your pancreas.
ok MR too know I forgot it’s your primary school lesson note police hired someone to interpret into English. A guy have been tracked and got arrested because he was watching porn in his room in an Arab country.when you call customer care of tecos they tell you “your call maybe recorded for quality and training purposes” I once had a case where a friend was kidnapped and some of the kidnappers arrested and my friend freed, when I was trying to dig to the bottom of the case the police in charge explained all the processes involved to get their voice conversations. from ministry of Justice to courts.... I withdrew when I couldn’t afford what it would cost. From my days in police I knew about it that’s why I requested for it then. It’s not something the general public know but if you’re not too proud to admit your ignorance I tell you the tecos have your voice records.

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Re: Hundeyin Replies Akpabio: Authorise MTN, Airtel To Release Voice Records by stickle(m): 4:39pm On May 14, 2021
iamdapsyj:
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Some people use to find their way around it though especially in the west (USA especially) if you don't want to be tracked. I have seen this a lot on criminal investigation channels.
Can it be done here? I doubt it but it is important for us to know that our calls are being recorded, for the sake of that guy that was seriously arguing about it. Thanks
Re: Hundeyin Replies Akpabio: Authorise MTN, Airtel To Release Voice Records by blackboy(m): 4:41pm On May 14, 2021
Am I missing something. What I read initially was she was lured, raped , killed and buried in a shallow grave. Did an autopsy show vital organs were removed or any part of her body missing? Is it more than a pyscho with an uncontrollable sexual urge who cant take no for an answer or cant go pay an ashewo for sex.
The police should give justice. No one should be above the law. New IG use this to start to show change - positive change is possible in Nigeria
Re: Hundeyin Replies Akpabio: Authorise MTN, Airtel To Release Voice Records by WaterWalker5(m): 4:41pm On May 14, 2021
chipzidar:
So these networks do save voice conversations shocked
They not only keep audio records but even your texts and other miscellaneous keystrokes are logged as well. This has been going on for a long time even among other Telecommunications providers. The truth is nothing done over the phone is secret. Ask any customer care agent or any good programmer.
Re: Hundeyin Replies Akpabio: Authorise MTN, Airtel To Release Voice Records by Proton99: 5:06pm On May 14, 2021
WaffenSS:
This hundeyin creep is a fool.

Who ever told him any Telco records phone calls?

He's calling into question his own over-inflated sense of intelligence.

Not a myth anon. Everything is stored on a database.

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Re: Hundeyin Replies Akpabio: Authorise MTN, Airtel To Release Voice Records by Xpol: 5:13pm On May 14, 2021
WaterWalker5:

They not only keep audio records but even your texts and other miscellaneous keystrokes are logged as well. This has been going on for a long time even among other Telecommunications providers. The truth is nothing done over the phone is secret. Ask any customer care agent or any good programmer.
don’t mind some people like that dull head WaffenSS who’s calling his entire household foolish because I said telcos actually keep voice call records

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Re: Hundeyin Replies Akpabio: Authorise MTN, Airtel To Release Voice Records by AdeolaOmoOba(m): 5:28pm On May 14, 2021
Just calm down! If Sahara Reporters still be Sahara Reporters, they will leak the conversations.
Besides, Premium Times still stand gidigba!!
Re: Hundeyin Replies Akpabio: Authorise MTN, Airtel To Release Voice Records by naijaman2225(m): 6:01pm On May 14, 2021
ednut1:
This one just dey piece one plus one together doesn't make it accurate
A MURDER CASE IS LIKE A JIGSAW PUZZLE. IT IS THE PIECING TOGETHER OF ONE PLUS ONE THAT LEADS TO THE FULL PICTURE.

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Re: Hundeyin Replies Akpabio: Authorise MTN, Airtel To Release Voice Records by WaffenSS(m): 6:14pm On May 14, 2021
Xpol:
ok MR too know I forgot it’s your primary school lesson note police hired someone to interpret into English. A guy have been tracked and got arrested because he was watching porn in his room in an Arab country.when you call customer care of tecos they tell you “your call maybe recorded for quality and training purposes” I once had a case where a friend was kidnapped and some of the kidnappers arrested and my friend freed, when I was trying to dig to the bottom of the case the police in charge explained all the processes involved to get their voice conversations. from ministry of Justice to courts.... I withdrew when I couldn’t afford what it would cost. From my days in police I knew about it that’s why I requested for it then. It’s not something the general public know but if you’re not too proud to admit your ignorance I tell you the tecos have your voice records.

I swear you and your ilk are irredeemably dumb.

Customer care agents are required to record the call for archive and training purposes, and they're required to disclose that fact to you, and that's why they tell you. In some countries privacy laws require any party recording a call to disclose to the other party for their consent.

If you people think a country's telecommunications system and infrastructure includes recording conversations of citizens, government agents, business people, lawyers, doctors, law enforcement, and everyone using that system, then you're nuts.

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Re: Hundeyin Replies Akpabio: Authorise MTN, Airtel To Release Voice Records by WaffenSS(m): 6:15pm On May 14, 2021
Proton99:


Not a myth anon. Everything is stored on a database.


You either have no idea what a database is, or you're deluded about people's rights to privacy.
Re: Hundeyin Replies Akpabio: Authorise MTN, Airtel To Release Voice Records by WaffenSS(m): 6:17pm On May 14, 2021
Xpol:
don’t mind some people like that dull head WaffenSS who’s calling his entire household foolish because I said tecos actually keep voice call records

Only a certain level of stupidity will even remotely consider the possibility that anyone will allow a society where people's calls are freely recorded.

Imagine your government ministers, senators, defense officials, doctors and lawyers having confidential conversation which is being recorded by a private and foreign entity such as MTN.

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Re: Hundeyin Replies Akpabio: Authorise MTN, Airtel To Release Voice Records by lastchild: 6:18pm On May 14, 2021
I had a case in 2018 and went to mtn to get a call record, they told me only commissioner of police can authorize that, so getting it is very possible, they should meet commissioner of police, if he refused, then he's among the big fish involved in this case

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Re: Hundeyin Replies Akpabio: Authorise MTN, Airtel To Release Voice Records by naijaman2225(m): 6:36pm On May 14, 2021
PAWG:


The burden of proof rests on the accuser angry
AKPAIS SUEING FOR DEFAMATION. THAT'S A CIVIL CASE... AND IN A CIVIL CASE, THE BURDEN LIES ON HIM TO SHOW HOW HE HAS BEEN DEFAMED BY THE ARTICLE.
Re: Hundeyin Replies Akpabio: Authorise MTN, Airtel To Release Voice Records by PAWG(m): 6:48pm On May 14, 2021
naijaman2225:

AKPAIS SUEING FOR DEFAMATION. THAT'S A CIVIL CASE... AND IN A CIVIL CASE, THE BURDEN LIES ON HIM TO SHOW HOW HE HAS BEEN DEFAMED BY THE ARTICLE.


He has shown so, didn't you read the letter served on the journalist?

What's wrong with you angry
Re: Hundeyin Replies Akpabio: Authorise MTN, Airtel To Release Voice Records by PAWG(m): 6:49pm On May 14, 2021
naijaman2225:

AKPAIS SUEING FOR DEFAMATION. THAT'S A CIVIL CASE... AND IN A CIVIL CASE, THE BURDEN LIES ON HIM TO SHOW HOW HE HAS BEEN DEFAMED BY THE ARTICLE.


Everyone is overrated in the political sphere, empty promises. It's now they know APGA is Biafra party ba? bunch of jokers
Re: Hundeyin Replies Akpabio: Authorise MTN, Airtel To Release Voice Records by Xpol: 6:50pm On May 14, 2021
WaffenSS:


I swear you and your ilk are irredeemably dumb.

Customer care agents are required to record the call for archive and training purposes, and they're required to disclose that fact to you, and that's why they tell you. In some countries privacy laws require any party recording a call to disclose to the other party for their consent.

If you people think a country's telecommunications system and infrastructure includes recording conversations of citizens, government agents, business people, lawyers, doctors, law enforcement, and everyone using that system, then you're nuts.

It’s very clear you’re into shady dealings, you’re so scared to digest that MTN and Cos have the records for all those evil calls you’ve been making if not it wouldn’t have been difficult for you to contribute your own opinion on this issue without insulting people. Don’t worry relax your mind they hardly release it without any threat to national security or a very very strong case. But surely the wind go blow open your nyansh
Re: Hundeyin Replies Akpabio: Authorise MTN, Airtel To Release Voice Records by Blackfriday: 7:22pm On May 14, 2021
WaffenSS:


They don't record any calls

All they do is keep logs.

They don't listen to your calls, they don't record your calls, they don't read your sms

Sorry to burst your orwellian fantasies, but they don't.
No body has time to listen to your calls or read ur messages but yes they record your calls and if you don't know that yet, then I don't know else to say to ya.
https://www.nigeriacommunicationsweek.com.ng/ncc-orders-telcos-to-monitor-keep-records-of-calls-others-on-networks/

Or probably you should take your time to read ur T&C's whenever you get a new sim and understand what "3rd party policy" is all about.
Re: Hundeyin Replies Akpabio: Authorise MTN, Airtel To Release Voice Records by WaffenSS(m): 7:44pm On May 14, 2021
Blackfriday:
No body has time to listen to your calls or read ur messages but yes they record your calls and if you don't know that yet, then I don't know else to say to ya.
https://www.nigeriacommunicationsweek.com.ng/ncc-orders-telcos-to-monitor-keep-records-of-calls-others-on-networks/

Or probably you should take your time to read ur T&C's whenever you get a new sim and understand what "3rd party policy" is all about.

They. Don't. Record. Calls. Period.

Get that into your thick, seemingly impervious skull.

If they kept records then there'll be zero crimes in the world.

Why did the US blacklist Huawei? Because they believe they'll use their equipment to eavesdrop on US citizens and government. You think the US will bother if recording calls was the norm?

How can you conceive that recording citizen's calls is a normal thing?

Did you even consider the amount of storage required to store billions of calls? And to what end?

Your link is about the NCC asking telcos to KEEP records of calls, i.e. call and sms logs, not actually RECORD calls.

Damn, many Nigerians are dumb.

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Re: Hundeyin Replies Akpabio: Authorise MTN, Airtel To Release Voice Records by WaffenSS(m): 7:45pm On May 14, 2021
Xpol:
It’s very clear you’re into shady dealings, you’re so scared to digest that MTN and Cos have the records for all those evil calls you’ve been making if not it wouldn’t have been difficult for you to contribute your own opinion on this issue without insulting people. Don’t worry relax your mind they hardly release it without any threat to national security or a very very strong case. But surely the wind go blow open your nyansh

Ask yourself, o dumb fukk: if they do record calls, why isn't the crime level reduced to zero?

You're insane
Re: Hundeyin Replies Akpabio: Authorise MTN, Airtel To Release Voice Records by miracle4(m): 7:58pm On May 14, 2021
Calls are not recorded by any telecommunication company anywhere in the world. But your line can be tapped, followed, and monitored if there are any reasons for that. Hence, why it's possible for security agents to track a particular number, eavesdrop on his conversations, get his communications, etc.

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Re: Hundeyin Replies Akpabio: Authorise MTN, Airtel To Release Voice Records by Nobody: 8:43pm On May 14, 2021
But there were terms and conditions you didn’t border to read, which you just accepted. Part of the conditions was that they can store your data in whatever forms they like and use the data for certain things.
Many a time, we all click on ACCEPT when signing up for app or downloading a software or registering on a website. We never bordered to read thru those long and tiny terms and conditions. So it would be tough to sue network providers that they are using your data for what you didn’t ask them to use it for.
design106:
cool
Here's the thing. Authorizing the release of the voice notes will confirm 2 things.
1. That Network Providers actually record private call sessions between paying customers without their permission.
2. Make everyone realize that there's nothing like privacy when it comes to the network providers who we trust with our funds and data.

Maybe they're both the same thing but you get the point.
Look for the right and legal means to get your facts else you'll just be the same as the evil people who are fighting to keep this matter silenced.

Best of luck though.
Re: Hundeyin Replies Akpabio: Authorise MTN, Airtel To Release Voice Records by Blackfriday: 9:21pm On May 14, 2021
WaffenSS:


They. Don't. Record. Calls. Period.

Get that into your thick, seemingly impervious skull.

If they kept records then there'll be zero crimes in the world.

Why did the US blacklist Huawei? Because they believe they'll use their equipment to eavesdrop on US citizens and government. You think the US will bother if recording calls was the norm?

How can you conceive that recording citizen's calls is a normal thing?

Did you even consider the amount of storage required to store billions of calls? And to what end?

Your link is about the NCC asking telcos to KEEP records of calls, i.e. call and sms logs, not actually RECORD calls.

Damn, many Nigerians are dumb.
I can excuse your lunacy, if you don't understand some simple rules of engagement.

Having a simple discussion with you and you are turning it into a fight, anyway we have kids everywhere here, so keep what you know to yourself and I definitely keep mine.

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Re: Hundeyin Replies Akpabio: Authorise MTN, Airtel To Release Voice Records by Xpol: 9:29pm On May 14, 2021
WaffenSS:


Ask yourself, o dumb fukk: if they do record calls, why isn't the crime level reduced to zero?

You're insane
ask yourself in advanced country where there is cctv camera everywhere why are people still breaking shops, robbing and stealing. Do you think Government and telcos want you to know that that criminal deals you’re making is being recorded? Even a third party can hack your phone and record all your voice calls not to talk of the telcos that sell there sim to you and give you access to use their service. Even in Ghana same process was used by the police to arrest some kidnap suspect. If you know anyone in that country ask him to help you verify what the police call Atta mills bills(phone records) I know your type always proving know it all and not ready to learn. I’ll stop replying your insults with another insult to prove to you I’m more matured. But whether you publicly accept or not I know you’re now convinced but base on the kind of person you are you’ll continue your strong head
Re: Hundeyin Replies Akpabio: Authorise MTN, Airtel To Release Voice Records by WaffenSS(m): 10:02pm On May 14, 2021
Blackfriday:
I can excuse your lunacy, if you don't understand some simple rules of engagement.

Having a simple discussion with you and you are turning it into a fight, anyway we have kids everywhere here, so keep what you know to yourself and I definitely keep mine.

Basically because you're a tepid fool you're cowardly slinking away because you've no more pointless argument left in you
Re: Hundeyin Replies Akpabio: Authorise MTN, Airtel To Release Voice Records by WaffenSS(m): 10:03pm On May 14, 2021
Xpol:
ask yourself in advanced country where there is cctv camera everywhere why are people still breaking shops, robbing and stealing. Do you think Government and telcos want you to know that that criminal deals you’re making is being recorded? Even a third party can hack your phone and record all your voice calls not to talk of the telcos that sell there sim to you and give you access to use their service. Even in Ghana same process was used by the police to arrest some kidnap suspect. If you know anyone in that country ask him to help you verify what the police call Atta mills bills(phone records) I know your type always proving know it all and not ready to learn. I’ll stop replying your insults with another insult to prove to you I’m more matured. But whether you publicly accept or not I know you’re now convinced but base on the kind of person you are you’ll continue your strong head

So wait..

Governments and telcos don't want us to know we're being recorded but you and the other simple dunderheads here somehow know?

Really?

You're certifiable.

Now kindly get lost, you're wasting my time
Re: Hundeyin Replies Akpabio: Authorise MTN, Airtel To Release Voice Records by Blackfriday: 10:23pm On May 14, 2021
WaffenSS:


Basically because you're a tepid fool you're cowardly slinking away because you've no more pointless argument left in you
Lool..... honestly I love to meet boys like you in real life, those who really fancy the words to
they spit, it's always interesting.

But one last question........ Can a Telco provide a transcript of recorded conversation of it's customer, if subpoenaed for it?
Re: Hundeyin Replies Akpabio: Authorise MTN, Airtel To Release Voice Records by Blackfriday: 10:30pm On May 14, 2021
miracle4:
Calls are not recorded by any telecommunication company anywhere in the world. But your line can be tapped, followed, and monitored if there are any reasons for that. Hence, why it's possible for security agents to track a particular number, eavesdrop on his conversations, get his communications, etc.
Am actually marveled at this, I will ask you same question I asked another here.

Can a Telco provide transcript of recorded conversation of it's customer, if subpoenaed to do so?
Re: Hundeyin Replies Akpabio: Authorise MTN, Airtel To Release Voice Records by Lagoon0: 10:39pm On May 14, 2021
chipzidar:
So these networks do save voice conversations shocked
Lolz you don't know why real gees use gbwhatapp call?

No link to fb and gmail with encrypted calls. Be wise my dear. grin
Re: Hundeyin Replies Akpabio: Authorise MTN, Airtel To Release Voice Records by Blackfriday: 10:45pm On May 14, 2021
Xpol:
It’s very clear you’re into shady dealings, you’re so scared to digest that MTN and Cos have the records for all those evil calls you’ve been making if not it wouldn’t have been difficult for you to contribute your own opinion on this issue without insulting people. Don’t worry relax your mind they hardly release it without any threat to national security or a very very strong case. But surely the wind go blow open your nyansh
I seriously marvel at the little boy ignorance. This Telcos do this and they have the backing of the law for it, it's no news but they can never think of releasing such documents (cos it's a breach of privacy agreement they sigh on to), unless it concern national security even at that, it will take the highest law authority to issue a subpoena for it to be gotten but do all of this Telcos have record of your conversations?.......YES.

They should ask themselves, how all this loan companies in Nigeria have all the information about them once you sign on to use their service, from your contacts list, to your call logs, to your messages....once you agree to their T&C's, your informations are immediately synchronized with the telephone number you use in making the loan application.

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