The Old Covenant Law was concluded and ratified by Deuteronomy 30. Anyone who has in fact read the books of the Law would note this important detail, particularly what is written right there in Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 regarding life and death in the land of Canaan for those of he Law.

Dtruthspeaker:


hahaha olodo don see say ihn be Olodo.

Olodo, go to school,
Tell your teacher you are a Fool!

Jesusjnr2020, Kobojunkie… it’s clear my suspicion came to pass.

This dude knows nothing and is ready to deflect from questions asked. It’s a waste of precious time trying to have intellectually stimulating discussions with someone who proudly wears his ignorance as a cap.

1. No answers to whether the law was meant for gentiles not resident in Acts 15.

2. Nothing on how Genesis 16 v 12 is a curse but Genesis 49 v 8-9 and 16-17 is a blessing.

Oh well, quite a disappointment for someone who claims to be a truthspeaker if his moniker is anything to go by.

Rather we’ve been stuffed with premium doses of ignorance and lies and deflections.

Sorry excuse for one so active in the religion section. What a pity.

Kobojunkie:
The Old Covenant Law was concluded and ratified by Deuteronomy 30. Anyone who has in fact read the books of the Law would note this important detail, particularly what is written right there in Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 regarding life and death in the land of Canaan for those of he Law.

Dtruthspeaker Dliespeaker thinks otherwise

OkCornel:

Jesusjnr2020, Kobojunkie… it’s clear my suspicion came to pass.

This dude knows nothing and is ready to deflect from questions asked. It’s a waste of precious time trying to have intellectually stimulating discussions with someone who proudly wears his ignorance as a cap.

1. No answers to whether the law was meant for gentiles not resident in Acts 15.

2. Nothing on how Genesis 16 v 12 is a curse but Genesis 49 v 8-9 and 16-17 is a blessing.

Oh well, quite a disappointment for someone who claims to be a truthspeaker if his moniker is anything to go by.

Rather we’ve been stuffed with premium doses of ignorance and lies and deflections.

Sorry excuse for one so active in the religion section. What a pity.

The lies they spew astounds me.

Dtruthspeaker, if you cannot explain how Genesis 16 v 12 is a curse but Genesis 49 v 8-9 & 16-17 is a blessing, then whatever your response on anything else is pointless.

Because it is abundantly clear to everyone you don’t know zilch on what you are talking about.

Demonstrate to us how Ishmael is cursed but Judah and Dan aren’t.

Case closed.

Cc Jesusjnr2020 & Kobojunkie

And the most hilarious thing is someone implying Genesis 16 v 12 to imply Islam

How dense can one get?

Are all Ishmaelites Muslims? Are all Muslims Ishmaelites?

Critical thinking is really scarce in this religion section ooo.

OkCornel:


Dtruthspeaker Dliespeaker thinks otherwise

This one who takes only the Parts of the Bible that he likes and throws the rest in his dustbin as Satan Witnesses (jw) do. on Monday, then on Sunday he would use it as a weapon against another person in that same matter.

But when it was used against him on Monday, he refused.

All of una dey the same side!

OkCornel:
Dtruthspeaker, if you cannot explain how Genesis 16 v 12 is a curse but Genesis 49 v 8-9 & 16-17 is a blessing, then whatever your response on anything else is pointless.

Because it is abundantly clear to everyone you don’t know zilch on what you are talking about.

Demonstrate to us how Ishmael is cursed but Judah and Dan aren’t.

Case closed.

Cc Jesusjnr2020 & Kobojunkie

Olodo,
Go to school.
When you know.
You can come and Blow!

OkCornel:
And the most hilarious thing is someone implying Genesis 16 v 12 to imply Islam

How dense can one get?

Are all Ishmaelites Muslims? Are all Muslims Ishmaelites?

Critical thinking is really scarce in this religion section ooo.

Trying to Cover your Olodoness?

It's too late!. it already blew up!

You should have Shut Up and stayed silent rather than run up and down with the goal posts.

And when the flood lights fell on you, you should not have Lied, LyingCheatiyCurnnyel.

Dtruthspeaker:


Trying to Cover your Olodoness?

It's too late!. it already blew up!

You should have Shut Up and stayed silent rather than run up and down with the goal posts.

And when the flood lights fell on you, you should not have Lied, LyingCheatiyCurnnyel.

So in all your 3 responses so far, no answers to how Genesis 16 v 12 is a curse but Genesis 49 v 8-9 & 16-17 is a blessing.

Just emotional bleating up and down. I’m enjoying this circus show you’re putting up here.

Your mumu dey wear Agbada and Turban

Dtruthspeaker:


This one who takes only the Parts of the Bible that he likes and throws the rest in his dustbin as Satan Witnesses (jw) do. on Monday, then on Sunday he would use it as a weapon against another person in that same matter.

But when it was used against him on Monday, he refused.

All of una dey the same side!

Please can someone with a sound mind devoid of emotional impulses kindly explain what concerns JW with this thread?

Why do religious zealots keep unlocking deeper levels of idiocy everyday?

Like can’t you reason soundly with the brain and mind God gave you and pass your points coherently?

OkCornel:


So in all your 3 responses so far, no answers to how Genesis 16 v 12 is a curse but Genesis 49 v 8-9 & 16-17 is a blessing.

Just emotional bleating up and down. I’m enjoying this circus show you’re putting up here.

Your mumu dey wear Agbada and Turban

You need to know more for you to decide whether I have answered you or not.

An Olodo Never knows! So go and know

perezeghi:



Matt.5.17 - "Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.
Matt.5.18 - For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.


If you miss the understanding of the creation of man,the convenant with Abraham, the Exodus of the Jews........all by God in the Old Testament......then you'll know that Jesus Christ only came to re-emphasize what God commands of man and He did not bring a new law.

God's law in the old testament doesn't consist of just the ten commandments. How many of the laws are Christians keeping today? People just choose the ones that suits them and pretend the rest don't exist.

Dtruthspeaker:


You need to know more for you to decide whether I have answered you or not.

An Olodo Never knows! So go and know

Simply put, you do not have the answer to the question. Over 10 posts now… nothing in your response to the question.

Keep deflecting, we’re enjoying your circus show Dliespeaker

HedwigesMaduro:


God's law in the old testament doesn't consist of just the ten commandments. How many of the laws are Christians keeping today? People just choose the ones that suits them and pretend the rest don't exist.

Please can you help us show how the law of Moses applies to Gentile Christians today? Especially considering the outcome of the Jerusalem council that held in Acts 15.

I tried to have an intellectually stimulating discussion with certain monikers but they’ve disappointed largely.

Dtruthspeaker:


It is not an "upgrade" or "amended which Always means "A Change and an Alteration".

Therefore, an amendment in that Law would be, "Thou shalt not commit adultery:" to either "Thou shalt commit adultery:" or "Thou shalt not commit adultery with a married":

Exactly as He Amended the Law of the "Curse of the ground" (in His Heart Only, Genesis 8:21, compared with The First Law, "Cursed is the ground for thy sake". Genesis 3:17.

That is how an Amendment looks like.

Therefore, that is no example of Law of "Amendment" or "Upgrade" as you wrongfully alleged.

It is exactly what you said above, Standard of the kingdom of God which means in Law and for Law (and we are talking about Law) "Commencement and Standard of the Proof of Guilt for the Commission of an Offence Committed"

Disclosure of A Standard of Measurement, is Never an Amendment or Upgradation of A Law.

The Law/ Judge Determines and Sets the Standard, the Standard does not Change or Amend or Create The Law.

The Law Always Comes before the Standard and the Standard Always Follows The Law.

And because you are not A Law'er/Levite as Moses was, you do not Truly comprehend The True import and Message Of Law which Christ delivered, Only Law'ers can as Law'er Paul Proved (except for the fact that he spoke in legal language, which laymen like you can not rightly interpret, as Peter warned)

Nice. So, what's your take on that "an eye for an eye" law that he "ammended"?

Dtruthspeaker:


Ye are Absolutely Accurate!

And I just learnt another reason why they are the way they are, Eve cheated on Adam by sleeping with Satan.

She had a child from Satan (Cain) which is why God Cursed her womb (Cain dey belle already).

Which is also why Christ said
"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. HE WAS A MURDERER FROM THE BEGINNING, and abode not in the truth

And we all know who is the first Murderer!

Also take note of the first Mass Murder, whose son was he. Genesis 4:23.

Most people are "sons of Satan" hence Anti-Righteousness as their True father and find it excessively difficult to do Righteousness.

Whoa! That's getting to some unscriptural levels.

OkCornel:


Can you show us where in the Law we should turn the other cheek when we are struck?

Patiently waiting.

Good question.

truespeak:



Now you move to this, in answer, this is what we call in Law an Instruction!

An Instruction from the Law Giver, an Instruction which is Already Covered under the Law of "Love the Lord thy God" for if you Love the Lord you shall keep his Instruction.

It is a simple as that!

The law of "love the Lord thy God" was in existence when there was still the "an eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth" law was existing.

HedwigesMaduro:


Nice. So, what's your take on that "an eye for an eye" law that he "ammended"?

He did not Amend it, He was rather warning us on the difficulty of executing it, RIGHTFULLY!

Which of course people fail very much in it and get into trouble.

"A Just and balanced weight" is The Law, "Not a farthing more, but when you are wronged, you would not want it less that, so how are you going to obtain that Accurate Balance?

Hence, Let The Lord give you "Just is" for He is The Only One who can give an Accurate Recompense.

Psalms 149:7
To execute vengeance upon the heathen, [and] punishments upon the people;

Dtruthspeaker:


This one who takes only the Parts of the Bible that he likes and throws the rest in his dustbin as Satan Witnesses (jw) do.

Your Trinitarians brothers are shaking you left and right with no single coin dropping out of you. But, its JWs that's your problem.
You're not even sound enough to represent your own belief, what a pitiful display of ignorance and arrogance. You spewed out garbage and compliment your self with your second moniker. what manner of mental disorder display.
The fact that JWs stay reasonable with you should not give you the effronttery to speak disrespectfully of anyone. If you Bible does not teach you manners, be civil atleast

HedwigesMaduro:


Whoa! That's getting to some unscriptural levels.

As I answered perezeghi, there are some facts which we believe even though the scriptures did not expressly say so but we deduced them from surrounding evidence.

haddeylium:

Your Trinitarians brothers are shaking you left and right with no single coin dropping out of you. But, its JWs that's your problem.
You're not even sound enough to represent your own belief, what a pitiful display of ignorance and arrogance. You spewed out garbage and compliment your self with your second moniker. what manner of mental disorder display.
The fact that JWs stay reasonable with you should not give you the effronttery to speak disrespectfully of anyone. If you Bible does not teach you manners, be civil atleast

Uncle jw, jw, is not my problem and if I speak so brazenly against me, it is because I your Maximus mistook my even speech to think that I could be courted to your group, so this is me openly declaring my hatred for jws without any ambiguity.

HedwigesMaduro:


Good question.

And I answered him and he could not oppose it.

Dtruthspeaker:


Uncle jw, jw, is not my problem and if I speak so brazenly against me, it is because I your Maximus mistook my even speech to think that I could be courted to your group, so this is me openly declaring my hatred for jws without any ambiguity.

Hold it please! No one would mistook Jargons and gibberish as being of JWs. Don't even flatter yourself with that. Don't bring them down this low, atleast not to yourself. You're not even close to the barometer used in measuring the spirituality of a true Christains. Just continue your 'Snake and Eve' sexual intercourse story with Trinitarians brothers under the guidance of the same Holyspirit.

Lmao. Hatred for JWs? And who do you think you're? What a bunch of Malarkey . Who cares about your petite feelings towards a Global family of unified organization. You don't even have an identity, to begin with .
I would rather you channel your hatred and aggression towards getting a sound Bible study and mental health check cos' it's obvious your void of Bible knowledge

It's confusion that made him do that!
He noticed that there has never occurred any solid agreement on beliefs between two Nairalanders claiming CHRISTIANS or BORN AGAIN they don't even have identity because members of the same church in Christendom don't believe the same thing {Luke 11:23} but JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are always united with one accord! John 17:22; 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3

He feels so bad and can't just help it so he has to cover their shamelessness by putting up another account to compliment only himself!

haddeylium:

Your Trinitarians brothers are shaking you left and right with no single coin dropping out of you. But, its JWs that's your problem.
You're not even sound enough to represent your own belief, what a pitiful display of ignorance and arrogance. You spewed out garbage and compliment your self with your second moniker. what manner of mental disorder display.
The fact that JWs stay reasonable with you should not give you the effronttery to speak disrespectfully of anyone. If you Bible does not teach you manners, be civil atleast

HedwigesMaduro:


God's law in the old testament doesn't consist of just the ten commandments. How many of the laws are Christians keeping today? People just choose the ones that suits them and pretend the rest don't exist.

That was one of the reasons Christ Jesus summed it up into "Love" which is still part of the law. If you truly love as Christ Jesus did then you'll not fault the other laws.

perezeghi:

That was one of the reasons Christ Jesus summed it up into "Love" which is still part of the law. If you truly love as Christ Jesus did then you'll not fault the other laws.

Interesting!

Yet the very same Jesus Christ said that those who love Him - the greatest of the comandments - are those who submit to and obey His teachings and commandments - John 14 vs 23 - 24

In John 15 vs 14, Jesus Christ literally tells you are His friend is you do the things He tells you to do.

How then can you truly say you love God if you do not obey His commandments ?

How do you honor God without obeying His very laws and statutes?

The details on how to love God axcording to the greatest law is stored right there in the other commandments that comprise the Law.

Same things goes for the second greatest law - the details on how to love your neighbor are contained in the other laws you ignore.

MaxInDHouse:
It's confusion that made him do that!
He noticed that there has never occurred any solid agreement on beliefs between two Nairalanders claiming CHRISTIANS or BORN AGAIN they don't even have identity because members of the same church in Christendom don't believe the same thing {Luke 11:23} but JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are always united with one accord! John 17:22; 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3

He feels so bad and can't just help it so he has to cover their shamelessness by putting up another account to compliment only himself!

Many of them cannot vouch for the teaching of their churches concerning the concept of God. Trinitarians of the same churches that are ready to have eachothers heads on a plate anytime at the slightest .
If the trinitarian God cannot unite his devotees. He has failed! woefully!
That clown with a confused concept of God passed down to him by the Roman Catholics and spices of personal revelation will come here to spew rubbish about a Global family of faith United in Teaching with LOVE, PEACE and JOY!

Dtruthspeaker:


You know that which is right already, that is what The Law has shown you, so do them, if you truly want to.

The great Paul Said he tried doing the good thing but end up doing the bad things you really think it by knowing the law that you can do it

Let look at Adam

The first law says don't eat from that tree right

So tell me what exactly he ended up doing

haddeylium:


Hold it please! No one would mistook Jargons and gibberish as being of JWs. Don't even flatter yourself with that. Don't bring them down this low, atleast not to yourself. You're not even close to the barometer used in measuring the spirituality of a true Christains. Just continue your 'Snake and Eve' sexual intercourse story with Trinitarians brothers under the guidance of the same Holyspirit.

Lmao. Hatred for JWs? And who do you think you're? What a bunch of Malarkey . Who cares about your petite feelings towards a Global family of unified organization. You don't even have an identity, to begin with .
I would rather you channel your hatred and aggression towards getting a sound Bible study and mental health check cos' it's obvious your void of Bible knowledge

shall Satan Witness not witness in favour of Satan Witness and give false witness in support thereof?

Only a stupid Satan Witness JW will think it valid that a Fox should be the Judge over a goose!

jesusjnr2020:
Sheer ignorance!

The Laws of God are His righteousness. It's by keeping them that you become His righteousness.

So no man can have the righteousness of God without keeping His Laws.

You are a baby Christian

The rightoesness of God is a gift

Irrespective of what you did

In fact we were dead in sin and yet christ died for us Jesus saved us without us doing one single good thing