The Hisbah has vowed to enforce sharia in Sabon Gari where muslims sneak to drink & patronise prostitutes.

Below is the link for the full story

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/6288480.stm

talk about first class hypocrites!

A befitting title for this thread. Do, but don't be caught (and if you're caught, some noise will be made and you'll be released without a scratch because Allah loves his slaves and does not see any sin in their wrong doing).

as much as I dislike sharia, as i believe that religion should be a personal choice, you guys are (intentionally) misinterpreting the article.

WesleyanA:

as much as I dislike sharia, as i believe that religion should be a personal choice, you guys are (intentionally) misinterpreting the article.

You can say that curled up in your comfortable chair in the US. Maybe you need to go say so in Kano or Saudi Arabia.

well that's because here where i live, there's a separation between the church and state.
we all know what it was like in the old testament where the societal laws were "directly from God." that's what sharia law reminds me of.

there isn't a line separating religion and politics/govt in the middle east. that's why all the bad gets blamed on the religion. some people will never understand that i'm sure.

WesleyanA:

there isn't a line separating religion and politics/govt in the middle east. that's why all the bad gets blamed on the religion. some people will never understand that i'm sure.

More vague tripe out of ignorance. Are we the ones "blaming all the bad on religion"? Hamas openly advocates an islamic state, suicide bombers and terrorists shout "allahu akbar" when they carry out their nefarious activities and Osama bn Laden bases his ideology on the quran!

What of Nigeria where there is a clear constitutional separation of church and state? Why is it no different from the islamic republic of Iran?

Hamas openly advocates an islamic state

Greetings,

I will believe this ye truthful one, when i see proof.

Peace

Tiptronic:

Greetings,

I will believe this ye truthful one, when i see proof.

Peace

no problem. Here are snippets from the Hamas charter

THE CHARTER OF ALLAH: THE PLATFORM OF THE

ISLAMIC RESISTANCE MOVEMENT (HAMAS)*

Article One

The Islamic Resistance Movement draws its guidelines from Islam;

derives from it its thinking, interpretations and views about existence,

life and humanity; refers back to it for its conduct; and is inspired by

it in whatever step it takes.

Article Three

The basic structure of the Islamic Resistance Movement consists

of Muslims who are devoted to Allah and worship Him verily [as it is

written]: 'I have created Man and Devil for the purpose of their worship"

[of Allah]. Those Muslims are cognizant of their duty towards themselves,

their families and country and they have been relying on Allah for all

that.

They have raised the banner of Jihad in the face of the

oppressors in order to extricate the country and the people from the

[oppressors'] desecration, filth and evil.

Article Five

As the Movement adopts Islam as its way of life, its time

dimension extends back as far as the birth of the Islamic Message and of

the Righteous Ancestor. Its ultimate goal is Islam, the Prophet its model,

the Quran its Constitution. Its spacial dimension extends wherever on

earth there are Muslims, who adopt Islam as their way of life; thus, it

penetrates to the deepest reaches of the land and to the highest spheres

of Heavens.

davidylan:

More vague tripe out of ignorance. Are we the ones "blaming all the bad on religion"? Hamas openly advocates an islamic state, suicide bombers and terrorists shout "allahu akbar" when they carry out their nefarious activities and Osama bn Laden bases his ideology on the quran!

you're only just repeating my point.
apparently, if one's political ideology is based on the quran then your political blunders will also be blamed on the quran.
also, the middle east wouldn't be comprised of islamic states if somebody or some "body" didn't advocate it. obviously.

What of Nigeria where there is a clear constitutional separation of church and state? Why is it no different from the islamic republic of Iran?

there is no really clear constitutional separation of church and state in Nigeria.
there is the sharia law and a sharia police in the north. religion clearly controls the states societal laws etc. and not a secular govt.


Turkey is the only islam country i know that has a clearly secular govt. If only the muslim countries in the middle east can secularize their governments.

@ wesleyanA, i will not bother with the first part of your response because it is clearly infantile and lacks any sense of direction.

WesleyanA:

there is no really clear constitutional separation of church and state in Nigeria.

Really? I cant belief we have such stupidly ignorant people. Have you ever read the constitution you speak with so much authority about?

WesleyanA:

there is the sharia law and a sharia police in the north.

Where was this sharia police under the government of Sheu Shagari? Where were this sharia lawyers and police under the millitary regime?
Why was sharia only introduced during the Obasanjo regime? Because it was CLEARLY nothing to do with religion but politics!

WesleyanA:

religion clearly controls the states societal laws etc. and not a secular govt.

This is nonsense! What religion controls the laws of the federal republic of Nigeria? What is the state religion of the federal government?

Please keep quiet if you will only keep spouting inchoate tripe!

WesleyanA:

Turkey is the only islam country i know that has a clearly secular govt.

Really? What of Lebanon, Egypt, Libya, Morocco e.t.c.? My dear just shut up!

WesleyanA:

If only the muslim countries in the middle east can secularize their governments.

I thought you were saying islam was not the problem?

islam won't be a problem if it's practiced personally.
christianity was the problem when masses were leaving england for religious freedom from strict christianity laws
christianity was also a problem when the puritans were holding their witch trials and what other horrible biblical laws they used to govern their society.

religion should be personal. when it interferes with how a govt is ruled, then that society will have problems. esp in todays world where many people of the same country are multi religious and the world is becoming "globalized"
the way one person practices a religion isn't the way



BBC news on turkey and please don't tell me to shut up.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/3192647.stm

Because it was CLEARLY nothing to do with religion but politics!

thanks for agreeing with me.

@ wesleyanA, i appologize for the personal attacks. No more missiles from me to you from this day on.

WesleyanA:

islam won't be a problem if it's practiced personally.

This is exactly what we have been saying for centuries, if muslims would restrict their "allahu akbar" to their corridors none of us will be here arguing this topic today. How many threads do you see on hindus here?

WesleyanA:

christianity was the problem when masses were leaving england for religious freedom from strict christianity laws

If you are refering to the pilgrims who left England to "discover" the new world then you would have your history upside down.

WesleyanA:

christianity was also a problem when the puritans were holding their witch trials and what other horrible biblical laws they used to govern their society.

It would have been a problem if the puritans went to Kenya looking to stone witches there.

WesleyanA:

religion should be personal. when it interferes with how a govt is ruled, then that society will have problems. esp in todays world where many people of the same country are multi religious and the world is becoming "globalized"

Now you just hit the nail on the head! When muslims in Pakistan begin to call for attacks against England for knighting a British citizen living in Britain then there is cause for alarm.

WesleyanA:

the way one person practices a religion isn't the way

Please direct this to the muslims i doubt if they understand this. The same quran they carry refers to jews as apes and pigs and to christians as infidels.

WesleyanA:

BBC news on turkey and please don't tell me to shut up.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/3192647.stm

i just appologized.

If you are refering to the pilgrims who left England to "discover" the new world then you would have your history upside down.

the pilgrims didn't really leave england to discover the new world. the first settlers did. the pilgrims came after first staying at the netherlands i think. but they came to virginia only after the first settlers were already in new england.
the first settlers weren't pilgrims just businessmen i should say. lol.
so no, i don't have my history upside down.


good to see were on the first page for the first time in history.
lol

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Lets Get Creative I Need Contributions in Breaking This Cipher Called Sharia.!!

WesleyanA:

good to see were on the first page for the first time in history.
lol

yup i never knew i would see the day i would have to say sorry to you. But hey, u've been nice the last couple of weeks so you deserve it.
Say no to bullying.