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Recalled Envoy, Diplomat Arrive Today, Indonesia Defends Assault by olatade(m): 10:22am On Aug 12, 2021
Nigerian diplomat, the aggressor, elbowed immigration official – Ambassador
THE Nigerian High Commissioner to Indonesia, Usman Ogar and a diplomat, Abdulrrahman Ibrahim, who was assaulted by immigration officers in the South East Asian country, will arrive in the country today.

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs disclosed this to The PUNCH on Wednesday as the Indonesian High Commissioner to Nigeria, Dr Usra Harahap, told the Minister of Foreign affairs, Geoffrey Onyeama, in Abuja that the Nigerian diplomat was the aggressor during his (Ibrahim) encounter with some immigration officers.

The PUNCH had on Wednesday reported that Ibrahim was assaulted in a car by some Indonesian immigration officials in Jakarta.

The August 7 incident had sparked a diplomatic row between Nigeria and the Indonesian authorities with the Federal Government recalling Ogar for consultation, while threatening a review of the bilateral relations between the two nations.

The spokesperson for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Mrs Esther Sunsuwa, in an interview with The PUNCH on Wednesday, said, “The Federal Government will make its position known after consulting with the recalled Nigerian envoy expected to arrive in the country along with Ibrahim on Thursday (today).”

Recall that the minister had on Monday summoned Harahap over the assault of the Nigerian diplomat in Jakarta.

Our correspondent on Wednesday obtained a copy of the Indonesian envoy’s presentation to Onyeama during the Monday meeting.



Giving an account of the incident, the envoy disclosed that the immigration officers from South Jakarta Immigration Office were carrying out surveillance on foreigners when they asked Ibrahim for identification but the diplomat allegedly refused to identify himself or tender his passport.

He stated “By that time, they met with Mr Ibrahim, and politely requested him to show his travel document. He answered that his passport was in his room.

“Then the officer asked again, ‘Can we see your travel document to check the residence permit and if there are no problems with the document, so you may continue your activities

“Mr Ibrahim was not willing to show his passport and said to the officer, ‘you will know who really I am and be careful on that.

“Instead of showing his identity card, Mr Ibrahim was angry and said, ‘Just arrest me and you will regret to know who really I am.’

“The officer said, ‘We will not detain you further sir, if you can show us your identity card.’ Then Mr Ibrahim said, ‘Where is your car, I’ll come to your office.’

“On the way to the immigration office in South Jakarta, several incidents happened. Mr Ibrahim elbowed the immigration officer, Mr Laode Hauzan Baidi, who was sitting next to him until Mr Laode’s lip was bleeding.

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Re: Recalled Envoy, Diplomat Arrive Today, Indonesia Defends Assault by Gandollaar(f): 10:27am On Aug 12, 2021
Hahahaha grin

Na so Oga carry naija cruise go Indonesia...

Do you know who I am?

The same impunity that ruined his country.

It would be nice also if the Indonesians can back up their claims with video proof.

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Re: Recalled Envoy, Diplomat Arrive Today, Indonesia Defends Assault by RZArecta(m): 10:30am On Aug 12, 2021
So called "diplomat" carried his useless, terrorist behaviour to another man's country thinking they have Kyari police officers like Nigeria grin dem no even press that him ostrich neck very well.

It's sad that thousands of Nigerians even with valid documents go through hell with foreign immigration officials every year without any effort from the Nigerian government but they could take prompt action against Indonesia because it affected their arrogant diplomat directly. I have no pity for the fóol at all walahi cool

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Re: Recalled Envoy, Diplomat Arrive Today, Indonesia Defends Assault by Lanretoye(m): 10:31am On Aug 12, 2021
Na wah o,nigeria dey flex muscles and dey feel important. Wetin those ones wan chop too no make them wise...what i bilateral between nigeria and other countries other than to collect loan,default and defraud.

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Re: Recalled Envoy, Diplomat Arrive Today, Indonesia Defends Assault by Nobody: 10:32am On Aug 12, 2021
Gandollaar:
Hahahaha grin

Na so Oga Ogar carry naija cruise go Indonesia...

Do you know who I am?

The same impunity that ruined his country.

It would be nice also if the Indonesians can back up their claims with video proof.

Hopefully they don’t put him in a psychiatric home abroad when he makes it known that he does not who he is.

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Re: Recalled Envoy, Diplomat Arrive Today, Indonesia Defends Assault by Gandollaar(f): 10:33am On Aug 12, 2021
kmcutez:


Hopefully they don’t put him in a psychiatric home abroad when he makes it known that he does not who he is.
Abii nau. grin
Re: Recalled Envoy, Diplomat Arrive Today, Indonesia Defends Assault by Moferere: 10:40am On Aug 12, 2021
Dem beat that man o

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Re: Recalled Envoy, Diplomat Arrive Today, Indonesia Defends Assault by babyfaceafrica: 10:41am On Aug 12, 2021
Noted..
Re: Recalled Envoy, Diplomat Arrive Today, Indonesia Defends Assault by epondudu: 10:49am On Aug 12, 2021
You will know who I am...shioooo

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Re: Recalled Envoy, Diplomat Arrive Today, Indonesia Defends Assault by FarahAideed: 10:55am On Aug 12, 2021
The Nigerian Diplomat was at fault joor ..instead of simply presenting his diplomatic credentials he was proving stubborn and exposing his megalomaniac lunacy for the world to see..it's only in Nigeria you will see people shouting do you know me

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Re: Recalled Envoy, Diplomat Arrive Today, Indonesia Defends Assault by aribisala0(m): 10:58am On Aug 12, 2021
Are there no Indonesian Diplomats in Nigeria? Just equalize and wait for Penalty Shoot out

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Re: Recalled Envoy, Diplomat Arrive Today, Indonesia Defends Assault by Racoon(m): 10:58am On Aug 12, 2021
Present your valid identity, the foolish man was stupidly grandstanding.Perhaps the Alhaji Abdulrrahman Ibrahim thinks he was still in a Nigeria where him and his brother like Danladi Umar of the CCT can act with utter impunity and go scot free.

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Re: Recalled Envoy, Diplomat Arrive Today, Indonesia Defends Assault by FarahAideed: 10:59am On Aug 12, 2021
aribisala0:
Are there no Indonesian Diplomats in Nigeria? Just equalize and wait for Penalty Shoot out

Equalize on what basis? Our Diplomat is at fault here
Re: Recalled Envoy, Diplomat Arrive Today, Indonesia Defends Assault by aribisala0(m): 11:01am On Aug 12, 2021
FarahAideed:


Equalize on what basis? Our Diplomat is at fault here
I don't know book

Just make our own video and declare that their diplomat was at fault

Then those people that know book can speak English

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Re: Recalled Envoy, Diplomat Arrive Today, Indonesia Defends Assault by FarahAideed: 11:02am On Aug 12, 2021
aribisala0:
I don't know book

Just make our own video and declare that their diplomat was at fault

Then those people that know book can speak English

Lol cheesy

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Re: Recalled Envoy, Diplomat Arrive Today, Indonesia Defends Assault by richiemcgold: 11:02am On Aug 12, 2021
okay,
Re: Recalled Envoy, Diplomat Arrive Today, Indonesia Defends Assault by OdumegwuOjukwu: 11:07am On Aug 12, 2021
"You will know who I am"


Does the clown think he is in NNPC?

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Re: Recalled Envoy, Diplomat Arrive Today, Indonesia Defends Assault by seunmsg(m): 11:08am On Aug 12, 2021
FarahAideed:
The Nigerian Diplomat was at fault joor ..instead of simply presenting his diplomatic credentials he was proving stubborn and exposing his megalomaniac lunacy for the world to see..it's only in Nigeria you will see people shouting do you know me

You have not read the account of what actually transpired from our own diplomat and you have concluded that our diplomat is at fault. Why not wait till the account of the Nigerian diplomat is made public before taking side with Indonesia against your own brother. If the diplomat had been Chukwu or Obi, I am very sure you wont jump to blame him without even reading his own account.

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Re: Recalled Envoy, Diplomat Arrive Today, Indonesia Defends Assault by aribisala0(m): 11:08am On Aug 12, 2021
FarahAideed:


Lol cheesy
Abi? You wey no dey dia dey talk say our diplomat was at fault so when we make our own video make you talk the same tin Video cancel video

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Re: Recalled Envoy, Diplomat Arrive Today, Indonesia Defends Assault by SarakiBukola: 11:09am On Aug 12, 2021
Gandollaar:
Hahahaha grin

Na so Oga Ogar carry naija cruise go Indonesia...

Do you know who I am?

The same impunity that ruined his country.

It would be nice also if the Indonesians can back up their claims with video proof.

You started the comment well. God catch am. Said nonsense at the end...

How will they have video proof of the fight starting?
Re: Recalled Envoy, Diplomat Arrive Today, Indonesia Defends Assault by aribisala0(m): 11:12am On Aug 12, 2021
SarakiBukola:


You started the comment well. God catch am. Said nonsense at the end...

How will they have video proof of the fight starting?
In your mind it is nonsense

The only "evidence" right now that is indisputable is that video

Everything else is hearsay
Even in that video was the technique of restraint appropriate?
Was that "reasonable Force"?
Re: Recalled Envoy, Diplomat Arrive Today, Indonesia Defends Assault by Xzellentgraphic: 11:18am On Aug 12, 2021
Most northerners are so dumb....you can see it in the way this diplomat was responsing to simple questions that won't take less than 2mins to answer politely

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Re: Recalled Envoy, Diplomat Arrive Today, Indonesia Defends Assault by SeniorGee(m): 11:30am On Aug 12, 2021
A simple identification of himself would have save everyone the embarrassment. At least we now know who he is, uncultured and undiplomatic! The foreign ministry should deeply and diplomatically negotiate our stance, this is not a case of bravado. The boarders we closed with agidi how far? Benin, Togo, Ghana have adjusted and refused to open their borders and we are the negative for it. Be wise Mr Onyeama. Don't throw the baby with the bathwater.
Re: Recalled Envoy, Diplomat Arrive Today, Indonesia Defends Assault by blackboy(m): 11:32am On Aug 12, 2021
Tax payers money being wasted just to discuss this matter. A phone call or zoom conference etc would have saved millions of Naira for flight tickets, estacode and hotel accommodation. Anyways Nigeria is a rich country.
When this incident first happened I was disgusted and angry but on a second thought I recall how many Nigerians are mistreated in similar ways around the world and Nigerian embassy staff hear and feel they deserve it or ignore them. They got served.
The diplomat could have handled it better. Someone I know who happens to be in a similar situation simply identified himself as a diplomat and he was treated properly and let go.
He should thank God he is still alive.

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Re: Recalled Envoy, Diplomat Arrive Today, Indonesia Defends Assault by Tinubuadvocate: 11:44am On Aug 12, 2021
Shut up this thread is not about dick measurement.
FreeIgbos:
Timid idiots of a banana republic! Your diplomat was treated worse than a slave yet they're confused on what to do, fools!!

Meanwhile, Yoruba cultural defects has been exposed here!!!

Igbos and Yorubas are unarguably two of Nigeria's most globally recognized ethnic groups. They've excelled in many areas of human endeavors and locally, they tend to have divergent opinion in their worldviews which has been variously misinterpreted. However, this thread will lay bare the structural differences which many either do not know, sugar coat or outrightly deny for sundry reasons.

1. Igbos are natural democrats with a liberal worldview while Yorubas are heirachial and abhor democratic tendencies:
This is one of the reasons why the two groups often clash rhetorically and accuse each other for being hateful and antagonistic. Yorubas have a culture stymied in "bambiala" reverence to fellow man while Igbos on the other hand believe that all men were born equal and one can become whatever they want if they work hard. This is at the core of what makes a character like Tinubu to thrive and assume a god status among Yorubas. But similar characters in Igboland will be derided. People like Rochas and Orji Uzor Kalu would have succeeded just like Tinubu if they were Yorubas in assuming a god status and similarly Tinubu wouldn't have succeeded in pocketing Lagos since 1999 if Lagos was an Igbo state. Igbos would have sent him packing after his statutory 8 years as governor!

Before Tinubu, we also had other Yorubas who were elevated to god status such as Awolowo and Abiola. During their lifetime, these same people were literally worshipped by Yorubas and it's not neccesarily because they sacrificed or did wonders for their people rather it was the bambiala culture that caused it. Igbos also had great leaders that sacrificed or did exceptionally well for them such as Michael Okpara, Ojukwu and Sam Mbakwe but they were only respected and never worshipped. Even when Ojukwu returned from exile to contest for elective positions in governance, he wasn't voted for out of principle! Sam Mbakwe, Ojukwu and Michael Okpara all retired to live out their old ages in peace but if they were in the West, just like Awolowo did, the bambiala culture will not only enable him to primitively accumulate wealth but will also make it easy for him to continue to call the shots till they die.

Igbos don't hate Tinubu as Yorubas wrongly believe rather they hate what he represents! Igbos have attacked Rochas and Orji Uzor Kalu more than they have attacked Tinubu. It amounts to idiotic reasoning to want Igbos not to criticize Tinubu when they form a significant percentage of the population in Lagos and pays tax yet same Tinubu is kneeling on the necks of everyone in Lagos by institutionalizing corruption in that state.

2. Igbos have a more principled worldview while Yorubas are fairweather in nature:
Igbos are ready to swim and sink with whoever they align with but Yorubas will jump ship the moment they see you're sinking and I will give you examples. Ojukwu, GEJ, Nnamdi Kanu will suffice here. During the war, Igbos stood with Ojukwu even when they were blockaded and were being starved or bombed to death! Igbos stood with GEJ even when he came under scathing criticisms till the day he stepped down! Igbos have massively supported Nnamdi Kanu through thick and thin! The Igbos are reliable allies who stand by their word but Yorubas will change course when things get out of hand, and that's what they term "sophistication". Awolowo was quoted as saying, if Igbos should leave Nigeria, Yorubas will leave too. Earlier, same Awolowo called Nigeria a mere geographical expression. In essence, he never believed in the country. However, when Ojukwu took the initiative and presented an opportunity for Awolowo to have his dream Oduduwa republic, he chickened out and decided to stay neutral and watch which side will have the upper hand so he can team up with them. If Biafra had an upper hand, Awolowo would have teamed up with Ojukwu!

3. Igbos Hate Injustice/Oppression And They Always Voice Out But Yorubas Will Rather Suffer In Silence Just To Be Politically Correct: when you oppress Igbos, either as an Igbo man or outsider, they will wail, complain, vilify, criticize and do whatever they can to show their displeasure. In essence, they don't suffer fools gladly. Igbos don't hate Fulanis more than Yorubas or others in Nigeria but while others are willing to be closet haters just to avoid antagonising them, Igbos don't mind saying it with a microphone. Igbos never hated or verbally attacked Umaru Musa Yaradua (a core Fulani man) when he was president simply because they believed he was a good man. Now that's a food for thought!

4. Igbos Don't Mind Washing Their Dirty Linens In Public If That Would Bring Change But Yorubas Will Rather Allow Keep Mum To Avoid Embarrassment:
When the Orji's allowed Aba to rot, with bad roads and filth everywhere. Igbos didn't try to hide it to avoid embarrassment instead they began a campaign of exposing the rot in Aba. In Facebook, nairaland, Twitter etc, we were assaulted with disgusting pictures of terrible looking roads which others didn't waste to start mocking us with. However, the onslaught against the state government started paying dividends now go to those roads now, particularly Ngwa/School road, P.H road, Eziukwu etc that used to be an eyesore and you won't believe how neat they are now. The governor must had sleepless nights with all those attacks he faced! Now, let's draw a parallel again. Aba is to Abia State what Sango/Ota is to Ogun State. Today, Sango/Ota has some of the worst roads you can think of in Nigeria, if not the world but Yorubas will rather keep calm, suffer silently and even attack anyone that tries to expose the rot in that town. Even within the almighty Lagos too, there are lots of terrible roads and disgusting environment but anyone trying to expose it will come under attack by Yorubas who either don't want to be embarrassed or because they feel no one should question their leader.

Should Nigeria divide today, I can bet you that Oduduwa will have sit tight rulers that will make the likes of Paul Biya and Mugabe green envy while Igbos will practice a very vibrant democracy with no room for sit tight rulers.
Re: Recalled Envoy, Diplomat Arrive Today, Indonesia Defends Assault by Tinubuadvocate: 11:50am On Aug 12, 2021
I hope federal government conduct a thorough investigation regard this incident. The time the incident happened, if the incident happened during the work hour why the diplomat not have any means of identification?

However I can smell lie in what the immigration officer said about Nigeria diplomat those officers I saw in that video don't speak English and it seems the diplomat not understand what they are saying.

I can see some stupid people mocking the man just because he is not igbo I believe that this maltreated can happen to anyone at least he didn't carry cocaine.

Imagine the way they treated the man without commit any crimes someone that voluntarily surrendered himself now beating officer inside the car I believe that those officers might have done something terrible to him inside car. Federal government should sanction Indonesia and declare the country unsafe for his citizens what are we benefit from Indonesia? Only ipob terrorist benefiting from the country through drugs trafficking and human trafficking they are doing in the country.
Re: Recalled Envoy, Diplomat Arrive Today, Indonesia Defends Assault by ComputerOperato: 11:57am On Aug 12, 2021
aribisala0:
I don't know book

Just make our own video and declare that their diplomat was at fault

Then those people that know book can speak English
I wish I could give you 1 million likes.
Even if our diplomat was at fault, what I saw in that video wasn't the way to treat someone for not having his passport on him.
I like your style.
Assault their official too and make video of it. Then they (both countries) can spend the remaining months in the year explaining which video is worse and who is at fault.
Ko ju be lo.
Re: Recalled Envoy, Diplomat Arrive Today, Indonesia Defends Assault by Gandollaar(f): 12:04pm On Aug 12, 2021
SarakiBukola:


You started the comment well. God catch am. Said nonsense at the end...

How will they have video proof of the fight starting?
How did pictures of the beating surface online?

How's hoping the Indos have concrete proof to back up their story nonsense?

O fe se oriburuku sha.
Re: Recalled Envoy, Diplomat Arrive Today, Indonesia Defends Assault by otokx(m): 12:04pm On Aug 12, 2021
That is their own story, let us hear our diplomats own. If it is Nigeria you will see our security personal guarding their offices and houses, how will immigration even dream of going to ask them of validity of resident permit?

Let me see if our government will have the balls to apply the necessary reciprocal legal action.
Re: Recalled Envoy, Diplomat Arrive Today, Indonesia Defends Assault by Flyingngel(m): 1:22pm On Aug 12, 2021
Ladies and Gentlemen , I present to you the correct version of what happen in Indonesia. An APC member went there to show case his domineering attitude thinking that he is in Nigeria where a certain man turn blind eyes when his tribe erred.

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