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Position Of Muslims On Taliban by NeoWanZaeed(m): 8:21am On Aug 19, 2021
Asalam alaekum warahmatulah wabarakatuhu brothers and sisters.

This is to make refutation on the khawarij group called Taliban.

In case you needed an audio... Sheikh Muhammad Ali Jabata did a short refutation on the khawarij group..I would be glad to share it should you need it.


This is the position of Muslims on Taliban. I said Muslims, I mean ahluSunnah...I mean salafiyah.. people who practices Islam according to the teachings of prophet Muhammad
Re: Position Of Muslims On Taliban by NeoWanZaeed(m): 8:25am On Aug 19, 2021
Only ignorant Muslims or Kufar like factionists or sects...e.g T.M.C , Sufi, Mumayiun, Ashairah, Maturidiyah and others like them.

Muslims are sad about the Taliban and Afghanistan case.
Re: Position Of Muslims On Taliban by NeoWanZaeed(m): 8:31am On Aug 19, 2021
Aqeedah of Taliban.

1. They're sect. Which has founder, Leaders, Agendas.
2. They're Hanafiyah Madhab.


They call sinners kufar, they kill Muslims, they rebel against the government, they kill Muslims. They're no different from Boko Haram.

When Taliban first overthrow afghan government then, it's the salafs that they murdered first. They killed the sheik and all his students.. leaving the christians, pagans and sects

Let me post Hadith of rosul on his affirmation that sects would only lead to hell, that matter what, stay away from sects, also rosul explained their aqeedah and he also foresaw them (khawarij) and called them kufar .. he ordered sahabahs to kill them all. Ali did that during his era
Re: Position Of Muslims On Taliban by NeoWanZaeed(m): 8:38am On Aug 19, 2021
Hadith



حَدَّثَنَا عَمْرُو بْنُ عُثْمَانَ بْنِ سَعِيدِ بْنِ كَثِيرِ بْنِ دِينَارٍ الْحِمْصِيُّ، حَدَّثَنَا عَبَّادُ بْنُ يُوسُفَ، حَدَّثَنَا صَفْوَانُ بْنُ عَمْرٍو، عَنْ رَاشِدِ بْنِ سَعْدٍ، عَنْ عَوْفِ بْنِ مَالِكٍ، قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ ـ صلى الله عليه وسلم ـ ‏‏ افْتَرَقَتِ الْيَهُودُ عَلَى إِحْدَى وَسَبْعِينَ فِرْقَةً فَوَاحِدَةٌ فِي الْجَنَّةِ وَسَبْعُونَ فِي النَّارِ وَافْتَرَقَتِ النَّصَارَى عَلَى ثِنْتَيْنِ وَسَبْعِينَ فِرْقَةً فَإِحْدَى وَسَبْعُونَ فِي النَّارِ وَوَاحِدَةٌ فِي الْجَنَّةِ وَالَّذِي نَفْسُ مُحَمَّدٍ بِيَدِهِ لَتَفْتَرِقَنَّ أُمَّتِي عَلَى ثَلاَثٍ وَسَبْعِينَ فِرْقَةً فَوَاحِدَةٌ فِي الْجَنَّةِ وَثِنْتَانِ وَسَبْعُونَ فِي النَّارِ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ قِيلَ يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ مَنْ هُمْ قَالَ ‏"‏ الْجَمَاعَةُ ‏"‏ ‏.‏"



It was narrated from "Awf bin Malik that the Messenger of Allah(ﷺ) said:

"The Jews split into seventy-one sects, one of which will be in Paradise and seventy in Hell. The Christians split into seventy-two sects, seventy-one of which will be in Hell and one in Paradise. I swear by the One Whose Hand is the soul of Muhammad, my nation will split into seventy-three sects, one of which will be in Paradise and seventy-two in Hell." It was said: "O Messenger of Allah, who are they?" He said: "The main body."

Hasan (Darussalam)

Sunan Ibn Majah 3992
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NO SECT IN ISLAM.

Any form of worship that doesn't exist nor practiced by prophet Muhammad is shirk. That's what bidiah is
Re: Position Of Muslims On Taliban by NeoWanZaeed(m): 8:46am On Aug 19, 2021
Hadith

حَدَّثَنَا مُوسَى بْنُ إِسْمَاعِيلَ، حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدُ الْوَاحِدِ، حَدَّثَنَا الشَّيْبَانِيُّ، حَدَّثَنَا يُسَيْرُ بْنُ عَمْرٍو، قَالَ قُلْتُ لِسَهْلِ بْنِ حُنَيْفٍ هَلْ سَمِعْتَ النَّبِيَّ صلى الله عليه وسلم يَقُولُ فِي الْخَوَارِجِ شَيْئًا قَالَ سَمِعْتُهُ يَقُولُ ـ وَأَهْوَى بِيَدِهِ قِبَلَ الْعِرَاقِ ـ ‏

‏ يَخْرُجُ مِنْهُ قَوْمٌ يَقْرَءُونَ الْقُرْآنَ لاَ يُجَاوِزُ تَرَاقِيَهُمْ، يَمْرُقُونَ مِنَ الإِسْلاَمِ مُرُوقَ السَّهْمِ مِنَ الرَّمِيَّةِ ‏"

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Narrated Yusair bin `Amr:

I asked Sahl bin Hunaif, "Did you hear the Prophet (ﷺ) saying anything about Al-Khawarij?" He said, "I heard him saying while pointing his hand towards Iraq. "There will appear in it (1:e, Iraq) some people who will recite the Qur'an but it will not go beyond their throats, and they will go out from (leave) Islam as an arrow darts through the game's body.' "



Sahih al-Bukhari 6934
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Rosul passing judgement on the first sect to emerge Islam and same judgement applies to every sect that emerges after them.. like qodariyah.. Ibn Umar called them kufar
Re: Position Of Muslims On Taliban by NeoWanZaeed(m): 8:51am On Aug 19, 2021
Hadith



وَحَدَّثَنَا حَجَّاجُ بْنُ الشَّاعِرِ، حَدَّثَنَا الْفَضْلُ بْنُ دُكَيْنٍ، حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو عَاصِمٍ، - يَعْنِي مُحَمَّدَ بْنَ أَبِي أَيُّوبَ - قَالَ حَدَّثَنِي يَزِيدُ الْفَقِيرُ، قَالَ كُنْتُ قَدْ شَغَفَنِي رَأْىٌ مِنْ رَأْىِ الْخَوَارِجِ فَخَرَجْنَا فِي عِصَابَةٍ ذَوِي عَدَدٍ نُرِيدُ أَنْ نَحُجَّ ثُمَّ نَخْرُجَ عَلَى النَّاسِ - قَالَ - فَمَرَرْنَا عَلَى الْمَدِينَةِ فَإِذَا جَابِرُ بْنُ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ يُحَدِّثُ الْقَوْمَ - جَالِسٌ إِلَى سَارِيَةٍ - عَنْ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ فَإِذَا هُوَ قَدْ ذَكَرَ الْجَهَنَّمِيِّينَ - قَالَ - فَقُلْتُ لَهُ يَا صَاحِبَ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ مَا هَذَا الَّذِي تُحَدِّثُونَ وَاللَّهُ يَقُولُ ‏{‏ إِنَّكَ مَنْ تُدْخِلِ النَّارَ فَقَدْ أَخْزَيْتَهُ‏}‏ وَ ‏{‏ كُلَّمَا أَرَادُوا أَنْ يَخْرُجُوا مِنْهَا أُعِيدُوا فِيهَا‏}‏ فَمَا هَذَا الَّذِي تَقُولُونَ قَالَ فَقَالَ أَتَقْرَأُ الْقُرْآنَ قُلْتُ نَعَمْ ‏.‏ قَالَ فَهَلْ سَمِعْتَ بِمَقَامِ مُحَمَّدٍ - عَلَيْهِ السَّلاَمُ - يَعْنِي الَّذِي يَبْعَثُهُ اللَّهُ فِيهِ قُلْتُ نَعَمْ ‏.‏ قَالَ فَإِنَّهُ مَقَامُ مُحَمَّدٍ صلى الله عليه وسلم الْمَحْمُودُ الَّذِي يُخْرِجُ اللَّهُ بِهِ مَنْ يُخْرِجُ ‏.‏ - قَالَ - ثُمَّ نَعَتَ وَضْعَ الصِّرَاطِ وَمَرَّ النَّاسِ عَلَيْهِ - قَالَ - وَأَخَافُ أَنْ لاَ أَكُونَ أَحْفَظُ ذَاكَ - قَالَ - غَيْرَ أَنَّهُ قَدْ زَعَمَ أَنَّ قَوْمًا يَخْرُجُونَ مِنَ النَّارِ بَعْدَ أَنْ يَكُونُوا فِيهَا - قَالَ - يَعْنِي فَيَخْرُجُونَ كَأَنَّهُمْ عِيدَانُ السَّمَاسِمِ ‏.‏ قَالَ فَيَدْخُلُونَ نَهْرًا مِنْ أَنْهَارِ الْجَنَّةِ فَيَغْتَسِلُونَ فِيهِ فَيَخْرُجُونَ كَأَنَّهُمُ الْقَرَاطِيسُ ‏.‏ فَرَجَعْنَا قُلْنَا وَيْحَكُمْ أَتُرَوْنَ الشَّيْخَ يَكْذِبُ عَلَى رَسُولِ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم فَرَجَعْنَا فَلاَ وَاللَّهِ مَا خَرَجَ مِنَّا غَيْرُ رَجُلٍ وَاحِدٍ أَوْ كَمَا قَالَ أَبُو نُعَيْمٍ ‏.‏



Yazid al-Faqir said:

This view of the Khawarij (i.e. those who commit major sins and would be eternally doomed to Hell) had obsessed me, and we set out in a large group intending to perform the Hajj and then going to the people (for the propagation of the views of the Khawarij). He (the narrator) said: We happened to past by Medina and found there Jabir b. 'Abdullah sitting near a column narrating to the people (the ahadith of) the Prophet (ﷺ). When he mentioned the inhabitants of Hell, I said: O companion of the Messenger of Allah what is this that you narrate, whereas Allah says: "Verily whomsoever You shall commit to the Fire, You indeed humiliateth him" (al-Qur'an, iii. 192); and All those who endeavored to get out of that would be thrown back into it" (al-Qur'an, xxxi i. 20)? So what is it that you say? He said: Have you read the Qur'an? I said: Yes. He said: Have you heard about the (exalted) position of Muhammad (ﷺ), i.e. to which Allah would raise, him? I said: Yes. He said: Verily the position of Muhammad (ﷺ) is that of great glory and that is by which Allah would bring out whomsoever He would wish to bring out. He then described the Path (the Bridge) and the passing of the people over it, and said: I am afraid I may not have remembered (other things) but this much is still in my memory that people would come out of the Hell after having gone into it, and he said: They would come out of it as if they were the wood of the ebony tree. He (the narrator said: They would enter a river, one or the rivers of Paradise, and would bathe in it, and then come out as if they were (white like) paper. We then turned back and said: Woe be upon you! How can this old man tell a lie against the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ)? We turned back (from the views of the Khawarij), and by God every one of us abandoned this (band of Khawarij) except one man. A similar statement has been made by Abu Nu'aim.



Sahih Muslim 191 e
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Their aqeedah..
Re: Position Of Muslims On Taliban by NeoWanZaeed(m): 8:53am On Aug 19, 2021
Regarding their Hanafiyah Madhab.. Abu Haneefa was a kafir too.

He's khawarij, he's murjiah, he's a philosopher. he did rejected over 400 Hadiths of prophet Muhammad.
He did said if rosul met him,. rosul would take from his own philosophy.

You can see this in Kitab Sunnah that has refutation of Abu hanifah
Re: Position Of Muslims On Taliban by NeoWanZaeed(m): 8:56am On Aug 19, 2021
To sum this up..
Talibans are not Muslims.

They overthrow afghan government which is kufru government too.

Why would a Muslim rejoice that a kafir overthrow a kafir.

And these ahlu bidah are worse than the Jews and christians..


Christians and Jews and others have no hatred for Muslims like the ahlu bidah (sects) does.


That's exactly why Sheikh Muhammad Ali Jabata and all other salafs around the world are hated by these sects
Re: Position Of Muslims On Taliban by NeoWanZaeed(m): 8:56am On Aug 19, 2021
Asalam alaekum warahmatulah wabarakatuhu brothers and sisters.


Guard your religion Islam.. your life depends on it.

Stay away from sects
Re: Position Of Muslims On Taliban by NeoWanZaeed(m): 8:59am On Aug 19, 2021
Hadith



حَدَّثَنَا يَحْيَى بْنُ مُوسَى، حَدَّثَنَا الْوَلِيدُ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنِي ابْنُ جَابِرٍ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنِي بُسْرُ بْنُ عُبَيْدِ اللَّهِ الْحَضْرَمِيُّ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنِي أَبُو إِدْرِيسَ الْخَوْلاَنِيُّ، أَنَّهُ سَمِعَ حُذَيْفَةَ بْنَ الْيَمَانِ، يَقُولُ كَانَ النَّاسُ يَسْأَلُونَ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم عَنِ الْخَيْرِ، وَكُنْتُ أَسْأَلُهُ عَنِ الشَّرِّ مَخَافَةَ أَنْ يُدْرِكَنِي‏.‏ فَقُلْتُ يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ إِنَّا كُنَّا فِي جَاهِلِيَّةٍ وَشَرٍّ، فَجَاءَنَا اللَّهُ بِهَذَا الْخَيْرِ، فَهَلْ بَعْدَ هَذَا الْخَيْرِ مِنْ شَرٍّ قَالَ ‏‏ نَعَمْ ‏"‏‏.‏ قُلْتُ وَهَلْ بَعْدَ ذَلِكَ الشَّرِّ مِنْ خَيْرٍ قَالَ ‏"‏ نَعَمْ، وَفِيهِ دَخَنٌ ‏"‏‏.‏ قُلْتُ وَمَا دَخَنُهُ قَالَ ‏"‏ قَوْمٌ يَهْدُونَ بِغَيْرِ هَدْيِي تَعْرِفُ مِنْهُمْ وَتُنْكِرُ ‏"‏‏.‏ قُلْتُ فَهَلْ بَعْدَ ذَلِكَ الْخَيْرِ مِنْ شَرٍّ قَالَ ‏"‏ نَعَمْ دُعَاةٌ إِلَى أَبْوَابِ جَهَنَّمَ، مَنْ أَجَابَهُمْ إِلَيْهَا قَذَفُوهُ فِيهَا ‏"‏‏.‏ قُلْتُ يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صِفْهُمْ لَنَا فَقَالَ ‏"‏ هُمْ مِنْ جِلْدَتِنَا، وَيَتَكَلَّمُونَ بِأَلْسِنَتِنَا ‏"‏ قُلْتُ فَمَا تَأْمُرُنِي إِنْ أَدْرَكَنِي ذَلِكَ قَالَ ‏"‏ تَلْزَمُ جَمَاعَةَ الْمُسْلِمِينَ وَإِمَامَهُمْ ‏"‏‏.‏ قُلْتُ فَإِنْ لَمْ يَكُنْ لَهُمْ جَمَاعَةٌ وَلاَ إِمَامٌ قَالَ ‏"‏ فَاعْتَزِلْ تِلْكَ الْفِرَقَ كُلَّهَا، وَلَوْ أَنْ تَعَضَّ بِأَصْلِ شَجَرَةٍ حَتَّى يُدْرِكَكَ الْمَوْتُ وَأَنْتَ عَلَى ذَلِكَ ‏"‏‏.‏"



Narrated Hudhaifa bin Al-Yaman:

The people used to ask Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) about good, but I used to ask him about evil for fear that it might overtake me. Once I said, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! We were in ignorance and in evil and Allah has bestowed upon us the present good; will there by any evil after this good?" He said, "Yes." I asked, "Will there be good after that evil?" He said, "Yes, but it would be tained with Dakhan (i.e. Little evil)." I asked, "What will its Dakhan be?" He said, "There will be some people who will lead (people) according to principles other than my tradition. You will see their actions and disapprove of them." I said, "Will there by any evil after that good?" He said, "Yes, there will be some people who will invite others to the doors of Hell, and whoever accepts their invitation to it will be thrown in it (by them)." I said, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! Describe those people to us." He said, "They will belong to us and speak our language" I asked, "What do you order me to do if such a thing should take place in my life?" He said, "Adhere to the group of Muslims and their Chief." I asked, "If there is neither a group (of Muslims) nor a chief (what shall I do)?" He said, "Keep away from all those different sects, even if you had to bite (i.e. eat) the root of a tree, till you meet Allah while you are still in that state."



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STAY AWAY FROM SECT
Re: Position Of Muslims On Taliban by IslamVIRGINS(f): 9:22am On Aug 19, 2021
But MURIC love them and your Muslims brotherhood from Kano has already shown them love, including the government of Saudi Arabia, UAE, etc

If these people I mentioned above already in love with Taliban, so who are you to kick against them? Taliban terrorist group members are following the sunnah of Muhammad as layed down by Allah in Alquran

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Re: Position Of Muslims On Taliban by NeoWanZaeed(m): 9:57am On Aug 19, 2021
IslamVIRGINS:
But MURIC love them and your Muslims brotherhood from Kano has already shown them love, including the government of Saudi Arabia, UAE, etc

If these people I mentioned above already in love with Taliban, so who are you to kick against them? Taliban terrorist group members are following the sunnah of Muhammad as layed down by Allah in Alquran

Next time when you want to comment on my post. Come along with your brain and objective judgement.


Your answer to the nonsense you have just spewed out of hatred is right in the post.

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Re: Position Of Muslims On Taliban by IslamVIRGINS(f): 10:31am On Aug 19, 2021
NeoWanZaeed:


Next time when you want to comment on my post. Come along with your brain and objective judgement.


Your answer to the nonsense you have just spewed out of hatred is right in the post.

Next time when you want to create nonsense here come with your cerebellum, encephalon and say no to taqqiya

You don't know Islam more than the curator of it, once Saudi Arabia government is okay with Taliban because they are promoting Sharia Law, who are you to say NO

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Re: Position Of Muslims On Taliban by NeoWanZaeed(m): 12:22pm On Aug 19, 2021
IslamVIRGINS:


Next time when you want to create nonsense here come with your cerebellum, encephalon and say no to taqqiya

You don't know Islam more than the curator of it, once Saudi Arabia government is okay with Taliban because they are promoting Sharia Law, who are you to say NO

Laughing.. Go and write your next paper for waec.

This thread is way about your level of sense and understanding kid
Re: Position Of Muslims On Taliban by aalafin: 12:34pm On Aug 19, 2021
My only problem with you is declaring other Muslim as infidel

You salaafiyah don't know anything at all but, claim knowledge originated from you
You don't understand others should not make you think you are right or they are wrong

The earlier you amend your ways the better for you
Salaam alaykum

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Re: Position Of Muslims On Taliban by NeoWanZaeed(m): 1:05pm On Aug 19, 2021
aalafin:
My only problem with you is declaring other Muslim as infidel

You salaafiyah don't know anything at all but, claim knowledge originated from you
You don't understand others should not make you think you are right or they are wrong

The earlier you amend your ways the better for you
Salaam alaykum


1. Are you saying there's no kafir in Islam?
Right there in the Hadith, rosul declared khawarij kufar and to be killed.

2. Knowledge originated from Quran and Hadiths and that's what we follow.

3. Muslim is same as ahluSunnah and salafiyah. Don't get yourself confused. All we do is follow dalil

4. We do understand others because rosul left Islam for us in which the night is as clear as day

5. Kindly state what's wrong in my ways and support it with dalil.


Wahalaekum Salam warahmatulah wabarakatuhu brother
Re: Position Of Muslims On Taliban by AntiChristian: 3:21pm On Aug 19, 2021
THE TITLE OF YOUR POST SHOULD HAVE BEEN "THE POSITION OF JABATA AL-KHARIJI MUSLIMS ON TALIBAN"

If your Alfa gives you fatwa, you shouldn't brandish it on all Muslims as if it is a revelation!

We know you well even with your previous monikers.

Aguntan oti paso esi da!

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Re: Position Of Muslims On Taliban by AntiChristian: 3:25pm On Aug 19, 2021
aalafin:
My only problem with you is declaring other Muslim as infidel
Be careful. He will soon give you your certificate soon! He is the one sharing the certificate of whether you are a Muslim or not.

You salaafiyah don't know anything at all but, claim knowledge originated from you
You don't understand others should not make you think you are right or they are wrong
Not all those who claim Salafiyah are part of what they claim?

The earlier you amend your ways the better for you
Salaam alaykum

Wa alaykum salam. This one can only change if Allah wills.

He don tey o!

He don call us Kafir tire! It remains make he sent us the certificate of hell.
Re: Position Of Muslims On Taliban by AntiChristian: 3:32pm On Aug 19, 2021
NeoWanZaeed:
To sum this up..
Talibans are not Muslims.

They overthrow afghan government which is kufru government too.

Why would a Muslim rejoice that a kafir overthrow a kafir.

And these [b]ahlu bidah are worse than the Jews and christians..[/b]

Christians and Jews and others have no hatred for Muslims like the ahlu bidah (sects) does.

That's exactly why Sheikh Muhammad Ali Jabata and all other salafs around the world are hated by these sects

See yourself outside! How can you a brainwashed follow-follow Jabatiyah Al-kharijy be classifying your Alfa with other Salafs?

Tueh! All the ones I marked in Bolds are big errors for you!

Your Jabatiyah sect nko? Are they not Ahlu bid'a too? Anyone who doesn't do your kind of Islam is Kafir! Gbagam!

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Re: Position Of Muslims On Taliban by advocatejare(m): 4:22pm On Aug 19, 2021
AntiChristian:
Be careful. He will soon give you your certificate soon! He is the one sharing the certificate of whether you are a Muslim or not.

Not all those who claim Salafiyah are part of what they claim?

The earlier you amend your ways the better for you
Salaam alaykum

Wa alaykum salam. This one can only change if Allah wills.

He don tey o!

He don call us Kafir tire! It remains make he sent us the certificate of hell.
Look at them, religion of peace people always fighting and killing one another since the time
of Muhammad till date.

They couldn't even respect Muhammad's daughter Fatima after the death of her father, they carried their violence to her house and she lost her pregnancy in the pro
AntiChristian:
Be careful. He will soon give you your certificate soon! He is the one sharing the certificate of whether you are a Muslim or not.

Not all those who claim Salafiyah are part of what they claim?

The earlier you amend your ways the better for you
Salaam alaykum

Wa alaykum salam. This one can only change if Allah wills.

He don tey o!

He don call us Kafir tire! It remains make he sent us the certificate of hell.

Look at them, so called religion of peace people yet they’ve never had peace among themselves, it has always been chaos, each group calling the other kafir yet they claim to submit to the same Allah!

Clearly their Allah is the author of confusion and he has not been able to put his house in order.

Muslims have been fighting and killing one another since the time of Muhammad but the fighting got worse after Muhammad died. They didn’t need any external enemies, they were one another’s enemies.


The fight that broke out immediately after Muhammad died was majorly about who to succeed Muhammad, they were so engrossed in it that they forgot to bury their beloved prophet like he commanded Muslims corpse to be buried (same day they died ) rather they left Muhammad’s corpse for 3 days before they buried him.

All of them are always ashamed of exposing that fact and the so called Ahlu sunnah who copied everything Muhammad did and said are also ashamed of being buried 3 days after they died, like Muhammad


They took their violence to the house of Ali and made tFatima, Muhammad’s daughter to lose her pregnancy.

Aisha, Muhammad’s beloved child bride did what had never been done in Islam, she led a war, against Ali and Muslims loyal to him and in the process, thousands of Muslims died from war against themselves and since then till date Muslims are still fighting and killing one another like these people are doing here.

Charity begins at home, those without peace want to give peace to the world. Alawada people

Religion of peace indeed!

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Re: Position Of Muslims On Taliban by AntiChristian: 4:50pm On Aug 19, 2021
advocatejare:

Look at them, religion of peace people always fighting and killing one another since the time
of Muhammad till date.

They couldn't even respect Muhammad's daughter Fatima after the death of her father, they carried their violence to her house and she lost her pregnancy in the pro

Look at them, so called religion of peace people yet they’ve never had peace among themselves, it has always been chaos, each group calling the other kafir yet they claim to submit to the same Allah!

Clearly their Allah is the author of confusion and he has not been able to put his house in order.

Muslims have been fighting and killing one another since the time of Muhammad but the fighting got worse after Muhammad died. They didn’t need any external enemies, they were one another’s enemies.


The fight that broke out immediately after Muhammad died was majorly about who to succeed Muhammad, they were so engrossed in it that they forgot to bury their beloved prophet like he commanded Muslims corpse to be buried (same day they died ) rather they left Muhammad’s corpse for 3 days before they buried him.

All of them are always ashamed of exposing that fact and the so called Ahlu sunnah who copied everything Muhammad did and said are also ashamed of being buried 3 days after they died, like Muhammad


They took their violence to the house of Ali and made tFatima, Muhammad’s daughter to lose her pregnancy.

Aisha, Muhammad’s beloved child bride did what had never been done in Islam, she led a war, against Ali and Muslims loyal to him and in the process, thousands of Muslims died from war against themselves and since then till date Muslims are still fighting and killing one another like these people are doing here.

Charity begins at home, those without peace want to give peace to the world. Alawada people

Religion of peace indeed!

Hypocrisy is your watchword!

I no even get time to waste much on you here!

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Re: Position Of Muslims On Taliban by advocatejare(m): 5:00pm On Aug 19, 2021
AntiChristian:


Hypocrisy is your watchword!

I no even get time to waste much on you here!
O pakaso abi

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Re: Position Of Muslims On Taliban by IslamVIRGINS(f): 5:20pm On Aug 19, 2021
NeoWanZaeed:


Laughing.. Go and write your next paper for waec.

This thread is way about your level of sense and understanding kid

You saw what your fellow in Islam said:

THE TITLE OF YOUR POST SHOULD HAVE BEEN "THE POSITION OF JABATA AL-KHARIJI MUSLIMS ON TALIBAN"

If your Alfa gives you fatwa, you shouldn't brandish it on all Muslims as if it is a revelation!

We know you well even with your previous monikers.



This shows that you're not for real, if Saudi Arabia is not against Taliban who are you to kicked against their acts.. You need brain surgery
Re: Position Of Muslims On Taliban by mhmsadyq(m): 5:44pm On Aug 19, 2021
NeoWanZaeed:
Asalam alaekum warahmatulah wabarakatuhu brothers and sisters.

This is to make refutation on the khawarij group called Taliban.

In case you needed an audio... Sheikh Muhammad Ali Jabata did a short refutation on the khawarij group..I would be glad to share it should you need it.


This is the position of Muslims on Taliban. I said Muslims, I mean ahluSunnah...I mean salafiyah.. people who practices Islam according to the teachings of prophet Muhammad

Where and when did you people meet to take this position?

From what you wrote up there, I percieve the words of a sect member, cos it is only what can motivate you to blantantly call a Muslim, kafir.

Pls. be guided.
Re: Position Of Muslims On Taliban by aalafin: 5:55pm On Aug 19, 2021
advocatejare:

My brother in humanity, if you don't mind,I would like to ask this personal question
What is your aim to talk against Islam?
From my own archive, there must be variation in all aspects of this world amongst is religion.
Re: Position Of Muslims On Taliban by aalafin: 6:03pm On Aug 19, 2021
NeoWanZaeed:



1. Are you saying there's no kafir in Islam?
Right there in the Hadith, rosul declared khawarij kufar and to be killed.

2. Knowledge originated from Quran and Hadiths and that's what we follow.

3. Muslim is same as ahluSunnah and salafiyah. Don't get yourself confused. All we do is follow dalil

4. We do understand others because rosul left Islam for us in which the night is as clear as day

5. Kindly state what's wrong in my ways and support it with dalil.


Wahalaekum Salam warahmatulah wabarakatuhu brother
Brother, what qualifies someone as a Muslim?
It is said that the ummah will be divided and our responsibility is to live with it.
Identify one another the way they are will lead to long lasting peace
It is not within your ability to judge yourself talkless of another leave that to Allah cause he is all knowing
Like I said earlier amend your ways
May Allah forgive all our shortcomings �
Salaam alaikum
Re: Position Of Muslims On Taliban by aalafin: 6:11pm On Aug 19, 2021
AntiChristian:
Be careful. He will soon give you your certificate soon! He is the one sharing the certificate of whether you are a Muslim or not.

Not all those who claim Salafiyah are part of what they claim?



Wa alaykum salam. This one can only change if Allah wills.

He don tey o!

He don call us Kafir tire! It remains make he sent us the certificate of hell.
Brother, I guess he is doing that out of ignorance.
Also, you should stop responding the people of other faith who tried to tarnish the image of Islam
May Allah increases our Iman in the Deen of Al Islam
Salaam alaykum brother

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Re: Position Of Muslims On Taliban by advocatejare(m): 6:14pm On Aug 19, 2021
aalafin:

My brother in humanity, if you don't mind,I would like to ask this personal question
What is your aim to talk against Islam?
From my own archive, there must be variation in all aspects of this world amongst is religion.
Is anything I've written about islam not true?

Have you asked Antichristian, Empiree and his likes same question?


Have you asked Yusuf Adepoju of ACADIP the same question?


If not, go and ask them first

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Re: Position Of Muslims On Taliban by NeoWanZaeed(m): 6:45pm On Aug 19, 2021
aalafin:

Brother, what qualifies someone as a Muslim?
It is said that the ummah will be divided and our responsibility is to live with it.
Identify one another the way they are will lead to long lasting peace
It is not within your ability to judge yourself talkless of another leave that to Allah cause he is all knowing
Like I said earlier amend your ways
May Allah forgive all our shortcomings �
Salaam alaikum

Answer my questions bro.. with dalil

And everything i have said is from Hadith rosul concerning these Kufar.

Unless you want to refute prophet Muhammad.. go on and do that
Re: Position Of Muslims On Taliban by NeoWanZaeed(m): 6:47pm On Aug 19, 2021
mhmsadyq:


Where and when did you people meet to take this position?

From what you wrote up there, I percieve the words of a sect member, cos it is only what can motivate you to blantantly call a Muslim, kafir.

Pls. be guided.


I quoted prophet Muhammad Hadiths..am only repeating what prophet had said.

If you want to make refutation for Hadiths of rosul. Go on
Re: Position Of Muslims On Taliban by NeoWanZaeed(m): 6:47pm On Aug 19, 2021
IslamVIRGINS:


You saw what your fellow in Islam said:

THE TITLE OF YOUR POST SHOULD HAVE BEEN "THE POSITION OF JABATA AL-KHARIJI MUSLIMS ON TALIBAN"

If your Alfa gives you fatwa, you shouldn't brandish it on all Muslims as if it is a revelation!

We know you well even with your previous monikers.



This shows that you're not for real, if Saudi Arabia is not against Taliban who are you to kicked against their acts.. You need brain surgery

And did you see me quoting Jabata? Laughing
Re: Position Of Muslims On Taliban by NeoWanZaeed(m): 6:50pm On Aug 19, 2021
AntiChristian:


See yourself outside! How can you a brainwashed follow-follow Jabatiyah Al-kharijy be classifying your Alfa with other Salafs?

Tueh! All the ones I marked in Bolds are big errors for you!

Your Jabatiyah sect nko? Are they not Ahlu bid'a too? Anyone who doesn't do your kind of Islam is Kafir! Gbagam!

Bring dalil that Jabata is a khawarij.
Bring dalil on anything that Jabata has said that has no dalil
Bring dalil that there exustya sect called jabatiyah? When was it founded? Who named them? Who's their leader? What's their manhaj... With dalil


What's your dalil that whoever does practice "my" Islam is a kafir

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