ibuildstuff:

Oh I see where u are coming from, u are one of those agbasa boys who tried attacking us yesterday. Have they release u from prison?

I STILL LAFF AT HOW ALL OF YOU WERE RUNNING LIKE COCKROACHES IN THE KITCHEN AT NITE WHEN THE LIGHT IS TURNED ON.

Nisiw365:

Benin royals are Yoruba. Edo's ate Yoruba

Buttress your points with facts and stop the infantile assumptions.

Born2Breed:


Buttress your points with facts and stop the infantile assumptions.

Oranmiyan founded Benin and named it ile ibinu. Edo's migrated from ile ife

Born2Breed:


Yoruba Royals are Benin

Only TAO11 can school you

It is very stressful dealing with you guys lol

Born2Breed:


Ginuwa was a full blooded Benin when he arrived the present day warri with the eldest sons of all Benin chiefs.

They agreed that the first son of every Ogiame born by his Benin wife should only be crowned. The people of warri has the right to change their tradition without interference from outside forces.

A full blooded Benin with Yoruba name?

What does Olu Ginuwa means in Benin language?

Only TAO11 can school you guys properly

Nisiw365:

Oranmiyan founded Benin and named it ile ibinu. Edo's migrated from ile ife

Who was the father of Oramiyan? ��

Very interesting..!

Spot Amaju in the last pics... You can never miss his head, one of a kind.

Born2Breed:


Who was the father of Oramiyan? ��

Akanbi son of oduduwa was his father

KingOdart:



A full blooded Benin with Yoruba name?

What does Olu Ginuwa means in Benin language?

Only TAO11 can school you guys properly

It was NEVER Olu until awolowo did what it did. What's the meaning of Ginuwa??

School who?

"Olu Ginuwa was the first Olu of Warri. He was the eldest son of Oba Olua, the 14th Oba of Benin and Heir Apparent to the throne of the Great Benin Kingdom. He migrated from Benin Kingdom and was crowned the first Olu of Warri. He reigned for a period of 30 years. He reigned from 1480 to 1510"

Emeka71:
Please how can I reach the place coming through airport junction.

Use the main road

Nisiw365:

Oranmiyan founded Benin and named it ile ibinu. Edo's migrated from ile ife

Not Edo, only Oranmiyan and his entourage, Oranmiyan and people that followed him to helped him

Nisiw365:

Akanbi son of oduduwa was his father

Go take your medications. I'm done talking to a wall.

Born2Breed:


Go take your medications. I'm done talking to a wall.

E pain am. Benin royals are Yoruba

Born2Breed:





It was NEVER Olu until awolowo did what it did. What's the meaning of Ginuwa??

School who?

"Olu Ginuwa was the first Olu of Warri. He was the eldest son of Oba Olua, the 14th Oba of Benin and Heir Apparent to the throne of the Great Benin Kingdom. He migrated from Benin Kingdom and was crowned the first Olu of Warri. He reigned for a period of 30 years. He reigned from 1480 to 1510"

Lol you think itshekiri people are stupid to the extent of allowing an outsider to tampered with their history and smeared it with falsehood?

His name was Olu Ginuwa when they crowned him and none of the name have any meaning in Benin.

Olu is an obvious Yoruba name and Ginuwa(Iginuwa) even have meaning in Yoruba

Coronation in ipob land? Hope they inform Nnamdi Kanu before all this coronation

3minssex:


Stop saying rubbish. I don't even know why people are calling him Olu of warri.

He's Olu of Itsekiri not Olu of warri!
Urhobos and ijaws are more than Itsekiri in warei, and they don't call their kings "king of warri" or stuff like that.

U no see say na trouble he dey find we be one

A very sound dude. What a wonderful speech.

Really?

Sholaco:
Coronation in ipob land? Hope they inform Nnamdi Kanu before all this coronation

Otuegbe:
Itsekiri owns Warri, no doubt

of course

Haba common sense no common

Dagger111:
Last last, na to dey collect people's wives and hijack lands and properties here and there.

jubrilELsudan:



I STILL LAFF AT HOW ALL OF YOU WERE RUNNING LIKE COCKROACHES IN THE KITCHEN AT NITE WHEN THE LIGHT IS TURNED ON.

Off point

Dagger111:
Last last, na to dey collect people's wives and hijack lands and properties here and there.

How do kings hijack lands in your climes? In my place, there's no land without ownership. Kings don't necessarily own the land. A lot of people have more lands than the king himself, and there's nothing he can do about it. It is not even possible for the royals or rich and powerful people to hijack lands from even the weakest and the poorest.

Born2Breed:


The first Aalafin of Oyo is the son of a Benin prince who later became Oduduwa.

Lmao..
This is revisionism at it's finest. Benin Prince ko Auchi Prince ni

3minssex:


Stop saying rubbish. I don't even know why people are calling him Olu of warri.

He's Olu of Itsekiri not Olu of warri!
Urhobos and ijaws are more than Itsekiri in warei, and they don't call their kings "king of warri" or stuff like that.

Are u joking, there's no single community in the whole of warri south belonging to the ijaw
Most of the urhobo in warri are not from warri, if we check well u are from okpe.
They are very few urhobo from warri which are the agbassa, ekurede urhobo, edjeba n Ogunu.
Ekpan is not warri but uwvie, jeddo is not warri but uwvie, most of the place u guys call warri are not actually warri. Even some of u call udu warri which is very shocking to me.

Dagger111:
Last last, na to dey collect people's wives and hijack lands and properties here and there.

Things like this don't happen in warri besides the guy has been base in the US for a while now he's very learned.

Born2Breed:


The first Aalafin of Oyo is the son of a Benin prince who later became Oduduwa.

lol
High on cow dung

Kingray10:

Don't let me call you a fool, because you are talking like one.

Stfu! Are u from warri? What's your LGA?

3minssex:


Stop saying rubbish. I don't even know why people are calling him Olu of warri.

He's Olu of Itsekiri not Olu of warri!
Urhobos and ijaws are more than Itsekiri in warei, and they don't call their kings "king of warri" or stuff like that.

U go just open ur mouth waaaaaaaa dey talk wetin sweet u

generalwo:
.... Na all these kind statements dey cause tribal war...... Who ask u who own warri? Na that one the head line talk? I am not from delta but delta is a home to different tribes...itsskiri ijaw, urhobo... They are all owners of warri... Leave it at that!

If u are not from there, then keep shut. U dont know the history of the place. Itsekiris own warri. Im from there. Itsekiris are small so alot of other tribes encroach into their areas

(1) ON ITSEKIRI:

To know who the Itsekiris are, ask them. What/who do the Itsekiris themselves say they are?

(A) The eyewitness accounts collected from them in the 1800s have them confirming to the Europeans that they are part and parcel of the larger Yoruba group:

(I) “Let me now refer briefly to the tribes that people this part of the world. First we come to the Jakris, who are connected in race and language with the Yoruba people, extending from the Mahin country on the west to the Forcados on the East, and inland about as far as Sapele.”

~ H. L. Gallwey, “Journeys in the Benin Country, West Africa,” The Geographical Journal, Vol. 1, No. 2 (Feb., 1893), p.127.

(II) “In this respect, however, the officials agree with the tradition of the people at Warri, the Jekries, who claim to come from the west.”

~ H. Ling Roth, “Great Benin: Its Customs, Arts and Horrors,” (1903), pp.8-9.

(B) This historical reality of the Itsekiris have remained the same since that period (i.e. the 1800s & prior) all the way to the present century, day & time.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKLTie7LhKQ

(I) For example, at timestamp 7:01 to 7:13 of this video, Chief Robinson Ariyo (the Egogo of Warri kingdom) says and I quote:

“… Yoruba, a place where we are from … our roots.”


(II) At timestamp 8:22 to 8:27 of this video, Chief Isaac Jemide (the Oshodin of Warri kingdom) says:

“… we are a Yoruba people as such.”


(2) ON ODUDUWA:

First of all, there is no such historical personage called Izoduwa (Imadoduwa) etc. in Benin traditions.

The IzOdUwA narrative is a fabrication that was made up by some Binis in the 1970s. And it was first heard of by the typical Edo person during Omonoba Erediauwa’s coronation ceremony of 1978-9.

Academic/professional historians (NOT the Benin neighborhood story-tellers) all laugh at this fabrication for being a poor job. This scandal is known to experts. Benin elders also know it. See attached screenshot for one example.

The classical story of the Bini Ekeladerhan which was first collected in the year 1889 is clear that he lived the remaining part of his life in his newly founded kingdom, Ughoton.

A Bini chronicler and chief (J. Uwadiae Egharevba) who flourished decades later also collected practically the same story of Ekaladerhan (from an entirely different generation of Bini informants), and his story also ended at his kingdom, Ughoton.

During all these period, Benin history recognizes King Oduduwa as being distict from Ekeladerhan. In fact, it is clear from the early Benin works that Oduduwa was already a King at Ife long before Ekaladerhan’s fore-fathers would be born.

In other words, it is very clear from the early records of Benin history that Oduduwa ruled in Ife when the first Ogiso, viz. Ogiso Igodo was sent to Igodomigodo to establish a supreme-supra-chiefdom there.

Whereas, Ekalderhan is the son of the last Ogiso, viz. Ogiso Owodo according to Benin records (even the recent records haven’t yet modified this part).

This is what the earliest records of Benin history say — that, Oduduwa is a different and distinct person from Ekeladerhan. They flourished in different eras.

Fast forward to the 1970s, lies began to surface in the history of Benin. The motive behind these lies have been variously linked, by scholars, to — for example — the need for the modern Binis “to ground the idea of an exceptional antiquity for their people and claims for its exclusive part in the sociopolitical life of independent Nigeria” ~ Bondarenko (2003:68).

In summary, early Benin history recognize Oduduwa as a different & distinct person from Ekaladerhan. He is recognized as having flourished at the outset of the Ogiso monarchy. It wasn’t until the 1970s before the Binis attempted to alter their own early documented history so as to equate two different persons as one and the same person for the purpose of veiling what they perceive to be an embarrassing aspect of their history in a newly formed country, Nigeria.

So, who is King Oduduwa? Oodua ruled as king only in Yorubaland. So, again (just like the Itsekiris’s case) ask at Ife (where he ruled) to know who he is.

According to received Ife traditions (and obviously the earliest Yoruba traditions), Oduduwa is known (without any confusion) as Oshin Ora in his oriki.

In the earliest Yoruba traditions, he is identified as a Yoruba leader who hailed from the hilly settlement of Oke-Ora; that is, one of the seven hilly settlements surrounding the Ife-bowl.

Peace!
Cc: KingOdart, Nisiw365, theInterpreter, ibuildstuff, Born2Breed, donforeign, LamidiCownu

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PS: @Enceladus, please be guided that the circular burial pits discovered are eleven (11) in total.

Screenshot Reference:
J. Eboreime, “Oral Traditions and the Prehistory of the Edo-Speaking People of Benin” in Blench and Spriggs, Archaeology and Language I, Taylor & Francis e-Library, 2004, p. 314.

3minssex:


Stop saying rubbish. I don't even know why people are calling him Olu of warri.

He's Olu of Itsekiri not Olu of warri!
Urhobos and ijaws are more than Itsekiri in warei, and they don't call their kings "king of warri" or stuff like that.

Bros how many ijawa dey warri, do dey even have a ward?.
Most of the urhobos in warri are not from warri south local govt na.
The indigenous itsekiris from warri are far more than the indigenous urhobos ....when infact they are tenants.