Eko Ile:

All you're doing is confirming the fact that you have nothing meaningful to share beyond your petty market women rumors.


You are a waste of time,

Thank you Mr Eko Ile . . the emboldened applies to you full time Tinubu arse lickers

jmaine:

Thank you Mr Eko Ile . . the emboldened applies to you full time Tinubu arse lickers . .

Eko Ile:


Meaning we are not going to be getting your facts and evidence to back up your rumors right? So I thought.

D.umb backside internet rumor monger. Get a damn life

All Ramblings with no clue whatsoever . . .abeg, you can now have the last word as usual ala nairaland stylee . .am out to the techie arena . .have fun bruv

jmaine:

All Ramblings with no clue whatsoever . . .abeg, you can now have the last word as usual ala nairaland stylee . .am out to the techie arena . .have fun bruv

jmaine:

Wrong bro. . Business owners suffers the brunt of taxation and call centers do pay levies as well . .  When i said high monitoring and compliance rate , i meant every word of it . . Even the ewa agoin seller at the road side do have altercation with the LCDA people from time to time . . . I would i agree with the fact that a sizable number of people still do not pay tax but every year, the state government devices new means of mitigating against such vices . . .the alpha consulting firm in charge of collecting tax i must confess are doing a great job in generating enormous internal revenue for the government by nabbing people who refuse to pay taxes and so far so good have been performing well . The carpenter scenario you gave is difficult to monitor but as a carpenter in Lagos working in a shop, ma guy, you will pay. . .  For some business people with no book keeping record, they just bill you exorbitantly and you are forced to go and negotiate what you feel you are suppose to pay, wrong procedure and in some case you pay even higher cos you have no record to prove otherwise. so that forces you to keep maintain a good book keeping record.

Go to any Agbo seller and ask her if she has clashed  with the revenue officers before and you will hear their tale of exorbitant charges they feel were placed on them . . and they paid up somehow just to stay afloat and survive .

The Lagos state data collection system is amazing even though manually generated. .  they seem to have agents all over . .the moment you open a place or anything  . .they are there the next minute to levy you 

Fhemmmy:

Those LCDA or whatever you called them are only acting for them to be able to get some money to take home and feed their own wife and kids, not cos they wanna make money for the state, cos harassing the agonyi beans seller is useless and the call centres that will pay levy woud be the one that has a stand . . .  there are so many more that operate out of their own living rooms.

All we are saying though is that for a state like that to be owing only that much . . . . they have done soooo well.
However on the other thought, why should they owe more anyways, cos until fashola's time, there has been zero development in Lagos and the service has been non existing . . . .

I keep asking people the governor before fashola, what was his achievement(s)?

jmaine:

Well said bruv . . . . . . Tinubu failure to produce could be remotely hinged on the fact that the Federal allocation to Lagos was seized and delayed for years due to his altercation with OBJ for daring to the create of more L.G.A resulting to OBJ seizing Lagos State funds til they reverse to the status quo . . this is understandable cos having funds is a big factor in carrying developmental  projects but the internally generated revenue in Tinubu era was impressive as well  and this was even in his second term ( excuses are slim with this one though). . . Tinubu can also rightly claim to have provided the blue print that Fashola is currently implementing and receiving the accolades which is very correct and factual . . .

But my grouse with Tinubu is that while he had very nice blue print for the state, he lacked the political zeal to carry them out but would rather play politics with them for good eight years but Fashola on the other hand who team ACN fondly call " The Implementer" followed up those laid down plans with zeal,zest,energy, focus and professionalism ,not minding whose ox was gored. And in a few months Lagos was transformed under the visionary and exemplary leadership of Fashola until spanners were thrown into his progress wheels  by in house members themselves . . .

Tinubu is a good political strategist but his imperialistic tendencies favoring politicking rather than sheer developmental processes and pathways is what irks we Lagosians  . .his fight with the PDP forces is good for democracy but don't leverage our development to sponsor that fight , that is what we don't like about the man . .

Eko Ile:

First you rightfully admitted that Tinubu didn't have the funds to go after capital projects because OBJ starved the state financially, then you cluelessly flipped it around around saying he lacked the political will to carry them out because of politics.

How do you reconcile both statements?

And what politics was he playing and with who?

What political zeal prevented him from executing projects?

You mean the same financial impediment you admitted to?

Or some money dropped from heaven, but he refused to apply it to capital projects within the state?

Btw, IGR under Tinubu was 600 million against 16 billion under Fashola

And if in fact Alpha Beta belongs to him which is not true anyways, from 600 million to 16 billion today sounds like a great leap and I don't care who's responsible for that jump, but I'll say mega kudos to that outfit for a job well  done. I'll even compensate them handsomely based on what they are bringing in to the state.


Obviously, you see Tinubu in your sleep, I even think you have some kind of infatuation with the man, but get your facts straight and try making sense for a change.

jmaine:

My guy will you shut the hell up and move away and let me discuss with people who don't have a warped brain like you . .must you reveal your incessant stvpidity any time you open your mouth. . . did the Oshodis and and their likes that Fashola cleared which ignited so much hatred and bile from the highly influential grassroots electorates in the market women and men towards fashola require so much funds . . .Did the destruction of shanti shops and illegal containers on the street to keep it tidy and neat require so much funds . . Fashola undertook numerous problems like that head on which pitted him with the common man because naturally people will resist change . .but he did it and people said, this is a man that sees a problem and proffers solution than play to the whims and sentiment by favoring those who feel they hold the power during electioneering years . .this are just a few out of the deeds of what Fashola did that never required huge capital but just a will power to move in and solve issues . .my friend learn to engage in a meaningful debate at all times and not always looking for people to engage in fist fights but if  you can't leave your distasteful side to a good discussion just stay the fvck away. .your just irritating atimes. . .

The emboldened sounds outrageous maybe you wanted to inform us about Pre Tinubu era . . .learn to be abreast with issues before you speak . .That is a candid advice i will love you to take cos it will do you some good

Eko Ile:


And before alpha beta, who was the tax consultant for lagos state,

Eko Ile:


Btw, IGR under Tinubu was 600 million against 16 billion under Fashola .

Your maintaining this confirms you are a fellow who refuses to take corrections and not worth debating with . .this is your own little assignment from me . .go do some research and learn quietly . You owe me that  bruv . please don't shame me by refusing to learn 

Eko Ile:


And what politics was he playing and with who?

What political zeal prevented him from executing projects?

You mean the same financial impediment you admitted to?

Fhemmmy:

However on the other thought, why should they owe more anyways, cos until fashola's time, there has been zero development in Lagos and the service has been non existing . . . .

[size=14pt]I keep asking people the governor before fashola, what was his achievement(s)[/size]

jmaine:

Answer =  Adekanola Tax Consultancy firm under Colonel Mohammed Marwa

Your maintaining this confirms you are a fellow who refuses to take corrections and not worth debating with . .this is your own little assignment from me . .go do some research and learn quietly . You owe me that  bruv .


When am convinced you are ripe for a meaningful conversation and debate ( not aimless arguments) than just being blind in your quest to shield a personality thereby making flimsy declaration . .then we shall have one . . in the absence of that i might decide to ignore you . . Am not those types who will spend a whole day on this land moving in circles  . .

OAM4J:

N128B is less than than $1B.

That is a very comfortable debt for a state like Lagos with Annual GDP in excess of $33B

akintun:

Lagos debt in the short-term is OK, but i foresee the state having problems in the long term because its bonds are high yield bonds when compared to the developed world. The state revenue shows that more money would have to be borrowed to repay its debt(ponzi scheme). I believe the state would be aggressive in its revenue drive to avoid defaulting on its debt.

LeoMax:

The debt doesnt bother. What I need is good roads to drive my SUVs. Electricity to keep my computer on, thats all. Abi na me wan go pay back the loan ? What the bleep are these morons arguing

enyojo:

[size=14pt]Pro-Tinubu versus Anti-Tinubu  

For all I care, without Tinubu in the South-West, it would have been a Wilderness! Tinubu is 100 times a better godfather than Thief Bode George
However, Fashola must be a Man of his own this time around unlike the first term where Tinubu's companies and cronies slowed him down.
Bless God Ikuforiji is been trailed by EFCC![/size]

Affirmative ! Lady Enyojo . . .Tinubu titanic tussle with the ruling party is very good for our democracy and should be applauded but thank God you are a fellow with lot's of grasp on the inherent, unwarranted, and antagonistic approach the camp Tinubu slowed Fashola progressive giant strides in the first 18 months of his administration. let's us just wish and hope , they stay out of his way this term so that we the masses can once more feel and savor the good smell of a vibrant, good and purposeful leadership of Governor Fashola . . . God bless Lagos State . . .God bless Nigeria . . .   

Johnpaul2k2:

lagos is owning,nobody is complaining,
if it is GEJ now,
all these BLACK BERRY (BB) BOYS that does not know the value of internet and their uses,
will come here and start writing rubbish!!!!!

Oga Johnpaul2k2, this na about Lasgidi . . abeg no carry GEJ and BB matter come . . .that na for other discussions next time . . .meanwhile how IWP business na  . .hope say things dey move on fine 

jmaine:

Affirmative ! Lady Enyojo . . .Tinubu titanic tussle with the ruling party is very good for our democracy and should be applauded but thank God you are a fellow with lot's of grasp on the inherent, unwarranted, and antagonistic approach the camp Tinubu slowed Fashola progressive giant strides in the first 18 months of his administration. let's us just wish and hope , they stay out of his way this term so that we the masses can once more feel and savor the good smell of a vibrant, good and purposeful leadership of Governor Fashola . . . God bless Lagos State . . .God bless Nigeria . . .

olyivy:

this topic is the right recipe to light up the asrrse hole name eko ile. Just mention fashola and he is up in flames!  

By the way, only few people here are treating the issue raised on this topic, others are making excuses for fashola.

Im afraid it will get to a point when people can no longer safely cricticize this our govnor for fear of Yoruba almajiri like eko ile.