kmcutez:
We need total separation from the North to move forward. We do not have the same goals. A house that is divided against itself will definitely collapse.

The big boss of NL disagrees with your viewpoint.

https://www.nairaland.com/2792995/nairaland-says-

States over the country... Your losses

The way this bill go fail eh?

The bill go fail pass Buhari sef...

Aufbauh:
Many still don't understand the write up or the VAT debacle yet they want to write something. Nigerians are very sentimental people that is why we can hardly get things right.

However the proposal by the HoR is a welcome development as it will create soft landing for the over 30 states that are insolvent.

The bitter reality is that if States are to take control of their respective state VAT over 30 states of the federation can't meet up going by their current standing.
Apart from Lagos, Rivers, Oyo, Ogun and one or two States in the SS including FCT, the remaining States are insolvent. Yet their indigenes won't allow us on nairaland about state control whereas their Governors are scared to stand on their own.

Every progressive minded indigene should embrace vat collection from state. This will encourage other state do more in generating VAT for their respective state. It's shear injustice of a state to generate VAT while others sat down doing nothing and the money is shared to them. How do you want those state to progress?

Aufbauh:
Many still don't understand the write up or the VAT debacle yet they want to write something. Nigerians are very sentimental people that is why we can hardly get things right.

However the proposal by the HoR is a welcome development as it will create soft landing for the over 30 states that are insolvent.

The bitter reality is that if States are to take control of their respective state VAT over 30 states of the federation can't meet up going by their current standing.
Apart from Lagos, Rivers, Oyo, Ogun and one or two States in the SS including FCT, the remaining States are insolvent. Yet their indigenes won't allow us on nairaland about state control whereas their Governors are scared to stand on their own.

That is the plan. Let those 30 states either sit up or perish. Whatever they choose will depend on them.

Some states have good potentials but are too lazy or to disinterested to harness their resources cos there is a free money coming from somewhere. That has to stop

Bigchristo:
So between Lagos and Rivers who make the bold step in this issues? To me I give it to a state that drag FIRS to court and won at least we should give Nyesome Wike credit for having the balls to push this through

If you are really a political pundit, you should you don’t have to wait for an issue to become pronounced before you get to know about it. Most of you get to know about this VAT issue until Wike involved but it has been there before Wike (dragging FIRS to court. Lagos state did sue the federal government at the Supreme Court but told you can’t sure the FG on VAT, that you only sue the agency (FIRS) . Lagos did pave the way for Rivers. The highest court in the lad is the Supreme Court. Government only used trick to push the case away from there and kudos to Wike to counter them base on their words.

Aufbauh:
Many still don't understand the write up or the VAT debacle yet they want to write something. Nigerians are very sentimental people that is why we can hardly get things right.

However the proposal by the HoR is a welcome development as it will create soft landing for the over 30 states that are insolvent.

The bitter reality is that if States are to take control of their respective state VAT over 30 states of the federation can't meet up going by their current standing.
Apart from Lagos, Rivers, Oyo, Ogun and one or two States in the SS including FCT, the remaining States are insolvent. Yet their indigenes won't allow us on nairaland about state control whereas their Governors are scared to stand on their own.

The proposed amendment makes sense. States that are struggling will still get FAAC off the 30% remitted by each state to the central account whilst the FG will still function with 20% of revenue generated from each state...

This is a fantastic idea. I hope they clearly spell out the sharing formula of the 30% remitted to the central purse...

mocipe:
In a nutshell the FG is sharing 50-50 with the states? Why what are the FG producing.

States must collect 90%.

No, FG gets 20%, the respective states keep 50% and 30% is pulled together to be shared across the states, this way, states who will take sometime to find their feet have a bit of succor in the form of monthly allocation.

Aufbauh:
Many still don't understand the write up or the VAT debacle yet they want to write something. Nigerians are very sentimental people that is why we can hardly get things right.

However the proposal by the HoR is a welcome development as it will create soft landing for the over 30 states that are insolvent.

The bitter reality is that if States are to take control of their respective state VAT over 30 states of the federation can't meet up going by their current standing.
Apart from Lagos, Rivers, Oyo, Ogun and one or two States in the SS including FCT, the remaining States are insolvent. Yet their indigenes won't allow us on nairaland about state control whereas their Governors are scared to stand on their own.

Modified: Pls I'm not against States taking total control of their resources but the process should be gradual and intentional.
I've listened well enough to the VAT debacle and it is reasonable to factor out convenient grounds. The FG stands to lose nothing except the individual states.

Stop counting FCT. FCT is a parasite, it is not a viable territory. It only exist because the FG exists there. Nothing productive what so ever happens in that place. It just survives by sucking resources from the south.

The lazy parasites will not agree( I no call name o)

patrickmuf:
No, FG gets 20%, the respective states keep 50% and 30% is pulled together to be shared across the states, this way, states who will take sometime to find their feet have a bit of succor in the form of monthly allocation.

What will the FG be doing with 20% of another man's sweat.
30% sharing among states too is high. They will still use the VAT formula for sharing.
Let each state control their resources that's good. 10% should go federation account and as well, Distributable Pool Account.

mocipe:


What will the FG be doing with 20% of another man's sweat.
30% sharing among states too is high. They will still use the VAT formula for sharing.
Let each state control their resources that's good. 10% should go federation account and as well, Distributable Pool Account.

The central government have to function as they have their role to play. You don't expect the state to handle the military and other functions of the FG...

As for the sharing formula, it's up to the rep members from the South to insist on a fair sharing formula which can even be debated and made part of the review and possibly law upon assent.

freshalien:
This bill has got many hurdles to cross. Would the current rubber stamp senate allow this bill to see the light of day or would the nepotistic and tribalistic vegetable in Aso Rock assent to the bill even if it manages to scale all readings?

Good move in the right direction though. Financial autonomy is the first step to true federalism.

That is where we ,the populace have work to do , all these things happen because of our docile nature and we no not our right syndrome. we only form groups to collect political money from politicians
This is the time for various groups in senatorial districts to be shouting on the social media and news that: WE ARE MONITORING THE PROCEEDINGS, ANY LAWMAKER THAT FAILS TO REPRESENT THE OPINIONS OF THE PEOPLE WHO ELECTED HIM OR HER WILL BE RECALLED AND WILL NEVER BE GIVEN ACCESS TO POLITICAL OPPORTUNITY IN THE REGION . It is high time we started making this people supporting people friendly rules .

ladiguy:

Correct but note that LAgos made the move before Rivers (Wike). Lagos state government sued the federal government and the court told Lagos can’t sue the government but the agency in charge of VAT, so Wike had to go after the agency (FIRS).

So Lagos had fought for VAT before Rivers did?
I guess they did not win like Wike did.

Obamaofusa:


So Lagos had fought for VAT before Rivers did?
I guess they did not win like Wike did.

Yeah! All progressives are winner.

No sharing please. Every state should work for themselves. Imagine donating 50% of your hard work to parasites.

dre11:


https://www.vanguardngr.com/2021/09/exclusive-reps-bill-to-back-states-to-collect-vat-control-resources/

Pass it first and let me read it, I don’t trust those upper chamber guys.

PeaceJoyLove:
Tell your rep to fight for more regional power. Constitutional ammendment is the way forward. Put people who can fight for resource control regionally in Abuja. By 5 years from today, a bold senator or governor (another Wike) will propose a bill to cut off supply of crude oil to Kuduna refinery . Shikena.

As Lagos joined Rivers, all SW supported the bill. SE east. Cos they saw the handwriting of Jagaban in support clearly. This is what SE should do. If ibos can cool off a bit, they will get supports from other regions. Let it be (SW+SE+SS) South Vs North.

Shikena..

You can't blame the SE oooo.. I personally lost a big real estate deal because of what Tinubu did in 2019 election to Igbos. I lost it because the client were Igbos and hundreds of people could have benefited from that project, let's not forget that the civil war is still fresh in the minds of Igbos, very very fresh and ALIVE. Before 2019, I was eager to buy a land in Lagos but after seeing what Tinubu did, all because he wants to be president that will never happen, forgetting the people he sent his lapdogs to unleash terror are his fellow Southerner, something no Northerner will EVER do, omo... the whole zeal died.

An Igbo man knows how to hold grudges for long. Trust me... they know how to hold grudges for so so long. This why after 2015, they called PDP supporters wailers lol...

Dem go fight comfu that day

then the zoo will be useless

FG stands nothing to lose man because without revenue sharing through resources derived we will have little to no use for the Federal Government.

The Federal Government of Nigeria, foisted upon us first by the unitary government declared by General Ironsi and subsequently thereafter by the hurriedly put together 1999 constitution, has just been an instrument of oppression and an avenue of waton inefficiency. The Federal Government is just an added layer of bureaucracy to what we already have. The Federal Government is and has always been a front for the the Hausa-Fulani, plus any useful idiots that they can find down south, to hide behind and redistribute resources to vast, unoccupied lands mostly located in the North not fit to be called states of their own.

If this bill helps us all do away with the Federal Government and its various failed agencies and ministries, i am all for it, a great step in the right direction. Let states that share common beliefs and visions form regions and govern themselves accordingly. If the various regions so wish, let them agree to have an army that safeguards the territorial integrity of the collective. However let each region maintain their own form of security apparatus.

Not saying this will solve all our problems, but it will surely force us all to sit up and think with our God given brains. Otherwise we perish. But to advocate that we continue in this madness all because we must try to guard some albatross of a Federal Government, it beats my imagination over and over.

Aufbauh:
Many still don't understand the write up or the VAT debacle yet they want to write something. Nigerians are very sentimental people that is why we can hardly get things right.

However the proposal by the HoR is a welcome development as it will create soft landing for the over 30 states that are insolvent.

The bitter reality is that if States are to take control of their respective state VAT over 30 states of the federation can't meet up going by their current standing.
Apart from Lagos, Rivers, Oyo, Ogun and one or two States in the SS including FCT, the remaining States are insolvent. Yet their indigenes won't allow us on nairaland about state control whereas their Governors are scared to stand on their own.

Modified: Pls I'm not against States taking total control of their resources but the process should be gradual and intentional.
I've listened well enough to the VAT debacle and it is reasonable to factor out convenient grounds. The FG stands to lose nothing except the individual states.