Bonsoir Nairalanders. Why are most pastors children stubborn? The females aren't exempted too. They tend to live wayward lives or live the opposite of their parents' godly ways of life. Even in the Bible. These i have carefully noticed. I know a pastor(a nice man) whose sons goes to clubs to enjoy themselves. Even our landlady then, use to call them: The sons of Eli.

Truvelisback:

Bonsoir Nairalanders. Why are most pastors children stubborn? The females aren't exempted too. Even in the Bible. These i have carefully noticed. I know a pastor(a nice man) whose sons goes to clubs to enjoy themselves. If our landlady then, use to call them: The sons of Eli.

They failed to allow God do the training of the children but relied on their own understanding so when the children grew up they realized how hypocritical their parents are hence it's either they also become skillful in disguising as men of God or live the way they feel and damn whoever challenges them because they already know that their parents are deceiving people!

The worst hated Humans on planet-earth are pastors. True!
For destroying the works of darkness, they incure the wrath of the kingdom of darkness. Hence their families are one of the frontal areas of intense battle by Demonic entities including Witches & Wizards, Occultic groups, Marine powers, etcetera.
Another reason for the problem is peer pressure. A lot of those who associate with pastors' kids are a debazed characters. Sometimes other parents send their wayward kids to pastors' kids thinking pastors' kids have moral Miracles only for most of this relationship to turn socio-morally bad.
There are evil men who are bent at sleeping with pastors' daughters.
There are many other reasons but it is PATHETIC WHEN PASTORS' WIVES OVERLY INFLUENCE THEIR KIDS WITH PETTINGS AND AVOIDABLE DISCIPLINARY SOFTNESS WHILE HUSBANDS FOCUSES ON FOREIGN FIELD FORGETTING TO PUT A STAMP ON THEIR FAMILIES!

MaxInDHouse:

They failed to allow God do the training of the children but relied on their own understanding so when the children grew up they realized how hypocritical their parents are hence it's either they also become skillful in disguising as men of God or live the way they feel and damn whoever challenges them because they already know that their parents are deceiving people!

How did they fail to allow God to train their children? Is God now responsible for their upbringing? It's the responsible of the parents to train their children in the way they should go, not God.

They see the double standards in the home.

The pastor will preach one thing on the pulpit, portraying a happy home but doing otherwise indoors.

Truvelisback:
How did they fail to allow God to train their children? Is God now responsible for their upbringing? It's the responsible of the parents to train their children in the way they should go, not God.

Please when you see something strange try to be calm so as to learn new things in addition to what you knew before!

How do you allow God train your child?
You must set their minds on God's plan not on your own idea. God has set up a standard that all people should follow but each of this so called pastors wants to set their own standard.
For instance Kumuyi has set his own, Adeboye has his own, Olukoya, Oyakilomeh, Oyedepo and many others all have contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines and nobody cares to ask "which one is the right standard form God?"
All these people are claiming Pastors, Prophets, Bishops and what have you and they are all pretending as if everything is OK.
So how do you expect a honest hearted and sincere individual to grow under the same roof with any of these people and take what they're saying about God serious?
This is God's standard:
We must inculcate in the mind of our child the truth about God and let the child know the difference between truth and falsehood, your child should be able to say "this person is practicing pure worship and that person is not worshiping God at all" Deuteronomy 6:4-7

But once your child can't distinguish between false religion and true Christianity then know that you're not training your child according to the mental regulation of God, and when it's time for them to display what you sow in their hearts you will surely reap shame! Psalms 127:1-5

MaxInDHouse:


Please when you see something strange try to be calm so as to learn new things in addition to what you knew before!

How do you allow God train your child?
You must set their minds on God's plan not on your own idea. God has set up a standard that all people should follow but each of this so called pastors wants to set their own standard.
For instance Kumuyi has set his own, Adeboye has his own, Olukoya, Oyakilomeh, Oyedepo and many others all have contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines and nobody cares to ask "which one is the right standard form God?"
All these people are claiming Pastors, Prophets, Bishops and what have you and they are all pretending as if everything is OK.
So how do you expect a honest hearted and sincere individual to grow under the same roof with any of these people and take what they're saying about God serious?
This is God's standard:
We must inculcate in the mind of our child the truth about God and let the child know the difference between truth and falsehood, your child should be able to say "this person is practicing pure worship and that person is not worshiping God at all" Deuteronomy 6:4-7

But once your child can't distinguish between false religion and true Christianity then know that you're not training your child according to the mental regulation of God, and when it's time for them to display what you sow in their hearts you will surely reap shame! Psalms 127:1-5

So, all those children who are living the way they want were not thought true christianity? What are u even saying?

PastorM:
They see the double standards in the home.

The pastor will preach one thing on the pulpit, portraying a happy home but doing otherwise indoors.

It's not always like that. Even Samuel in the Bible, his children refused to follow the way of the Lord neither did they follow after their father's footstep.

That's not really true, but that the spotlight is often on them because of their parents' pastoral office, so there's this expectation that they ought to be different from the other kids, even though they were no different, and they were also entitled to choose their paths regardless just as every other child.

Truvelisback:
So, all those children who are living the way they want were not thought true christianity? What are u even saying?

No they weren't taught true Christianity that's why they are behaving like that.
In true Christianity youths are everywhere practicing what Jesus taught and they can easily see fine examples all around them. But when one Pastor teach his own in contrast to what the other pastor is teaching and all of them are claiming Christians you people have killed their conscience making everything sound like nonsense to them!

Take for instance youths from JWs Organization are taught to believe only in the teachings of the organization, they don't see any pastor as a man of our own God so if any of them should turn against the standard he/she knows that he's no more a Christian!

Unlike Kumuyi and Adeboye teaching contradicting things yet nobody asked which is right and which is wrong?

MaxInDHouse:

No they weren't taught true Christianity that's why they are behaving like that.
In true Christianity youths are everywhere practicing what Jesus taught and they can easily see fine examples all around them. But when one Pastor teach his own in contrast to what the other pastor is teaching and all of them are claiming Christians you people have killed their conscience making everything sound like nonsense to them!

Take for instance youths from JWs Organization are taught to believe only in the teachings of the organization, they don't see any pastor as a man of our own God so if any of them should turn against the standard he/she knows that he's no more a Christian!

Unlike Kumuyi and Adeboye teaching contradicting things yet nobody asked which is right and which is wrong?

Lol, So, JW, are the only people who teaches true christianity! I see. So, No JW, children behaves stubborn or live contary to their pastors?

Truvelisback:
Even our landlady then, use to call them: The sons of Eli.

jesusjnr2020:
That's not really true, but that the spotlight is often on them because of their parents' pastoral office, so there's this expectation that they ought to be different from the other kids, even though they were no different, and they were also entitled to choose their paths regardless just as every other child.

If the children chooses the wrong path, who should be blamed for that?

Truvelisback:
Lol, So, JW, are the only people who teaches true christianity! I see. So, No JW, children behaves stubborn or live contary to their pastors?

You only need to calm down and read my comments slowly!
A JW child knows that once he/she wants to live contrary to our teachings he/she is no more a Christian. That's why they formed exJW club.
Kumuyi's son wanted to get married, his wife dressed contrary to the teachings of Deeperlife please does that makes the young man an unbeliever in the face of Christ Embassy, Catholics, Cele, C & S, REM and so on?
So the young man will feel that's his father's doctrine and he could choose to follow another church's doctrines after all they're all Christians.
But that's not possible with JWs, once you're no longer following our doctrine you are no more a Christian to the whole association of JWs throughout the earth.
That's why you hardly find JWs children turning against the teaching of the church because it's not just their father's religion but what the entire global family of peace loving worshipers believe!

MaxInDHouse:


You only need to calm down and read my comments slowly!
A JW child knows that once he/she wants to live contrary to our teachings he/she is no more a Christian. That's why they formed exJW club.
Kumuyi's son wanted to get married, his wife dressed contrary to the teachings of Deeperlife please does that makes the young man an unbeliever in the face of Christ Embassy, Catholics, Cele, C & S, REM and so on?
So the young man will feel that's his father's doctrine and he could choose to follow another church's doctrines after all they're all Christians.
But that's not possible with JWs, once you're no longer following our doctrine you are no more a Christian to the whole association of JWs throughout the earth.
That's why you hardly find JWs children turning against the teaching of the church because it's not just their father's religion but what the entire global family of peace loving worshipers believe!

So, what makes JW different from other churches u just condemned, since some of their children behaves the same way?

Truvelisback:
So, what makes JW different from other churches u just condemned, since some of their children behaves the same way?

The difference is:
They have nowhere else to worship apart from in the gathering of JWs so they must maintain the standard otherwise they'll be of no relevance in the Organization.
That's unlike the Pastors child whose father owns the church, na him Papa property!

MaxInDHouse:

The difference is:
They have nowhere else to worship apart from in the gathering of JWs so they must maintain the standard otherwise they'll be of no relevance in the Organization.
That's unlike the Pastors child whose father owns the church, na him Papa property!

U are deviating from question. Don't some JW pastor's children do the same? Are all their children complete saints? I just need a 'Yes' or a 'No'.

Exodus 10:8Then Moses and Aaron were brought back to Pharaoh. “Go, worship the Lord your God,” he said. “But tell me who will be going.”

9Moses answered, “We will go with our young and our old, with our sons and our daughters, and with our flocks and herds, because we are to celebrate a festival to the Lord.”

10Pharaoh said, “The Lord be with you—if I let you go, along with your women and children! Clearly you are bent on evil.
Unlike Moses some men of God left there family/household in Egypt.

Truvelisback:
U are deviating from question. Don't some JW pastor's children do the same? Are all their children complete saints? I just need a 'Yes' or a 'No'.

Not all questions requires a Yes or No reply!

Trained Christian youths don't turn away from the standards of God unless you don't believe in God's word:

Train a boy in the way he should go; Even when he grows old he will not depart from it. Proverbs 22:6

God's word said it so it's left to you whether you believe (trust) in God's word or not!

MaxInDHouse:

Not all questions requires a Yes or No reply!

Trained Christian youths don't turn away from the standards of God unless you don't believe in God's word:

Train a boy in the way he should go; Even when he grows old he will not depart from it. Proverbs 22:6

God's word said it so it's left to you whether you believe (trust) in God's word or not!

U aren't straightforward. U feel all JW members are saints, other churches aside JW church are sinners. U feel all JW members do God'swill, others don't. I knew before asking u these questions and i knew u were diverting the whole thing.

ichuka:
Exodus 10:8Then Moses and Aaron were brought back to Pharaoh. “Go, worship the Lord your God,” he said. “But tell me who will be going.”

9Moses answered, “We will go with our young and our old, with our sons and our daughters, and with our flocks and herds, because we are to celebrate a festival to the Lord.”

10Pharaoh said, “The Lord be with you—if I let you go, along with your women and children! Clearly you are bent on evil.
Unlike Moses some men of God left there family/household in Egypt.

What msg are u trying to pass?

Truvelisback:
If the children chooses the wrong path, who should be blamed for that?

If they were trained in the right way, then it's the children. But if not, it's the parents.

Children who are trained in the right way can also choose not to continue in the way they were trained.

Truvelisback:
U aren't straightforward. U feel all JW members are saints, other churches aside JW church are sinners. U feel all JW members do God'swill, others don't. I knew before asking u these questions and i knew u were diverting the whole thing.

Your preconceived thought is your problem!

Since you've already judged before hearing me out then you can't decipher the truth regarding what you're asking!

Nobody is a saint, in fact that word "SAINT" was misused by most translators because the first century Jewish Christians weren't saints rather they were just like everyone else today.
The only difference is they were exerting themselves vigorously to remain in the faith!

That's what i'm telling you now. Only Jehovah's Witnesses are worried about the contradictions affecting people's minds while all the other religions are lying to their own soul. You asked a question that requires a thorough meditation yet you're demanding a simple YES or NO reply.
I am directing you to the root cause of the problem but you're trying to change the subject. Well if you must know, JWs are the only group teaching their children that there's only one God and only one form of worship to please that God! Deuteronomy 6:4-5

If truly you believe in one God why not ask yourself how come there are various schools of thought all claiming worshipers of the same God?

Without that you're deceiving yourselves because a young lady born to Deeperlifer may choose to worship with Christ Embassy, the only question she needs to ask her parents is "are we all worshiping the same God?"
If YES is the answer then she's free to wear makeup, jewelries, trousers and drink whiskey!

Truvelisback:
It's not always like that. Even Samuel in the Bible, his children refused to follow the way of the Lord neither did they follow after their father's footstep.

This is when you see The Truth of the Bible saying man is born evil hence the need for rebirth/reborn/born again.

Truvelisback:
So, all those children who are living the way they want were not thought true christianity? What are u even saying?

Yes! Generally and
2) They are born evil as the Bible has implied so it is a Wrestle for the children until they see and decide that Good is better than evil.

That is the burden Evil, I meant Eve placed on us all.

MaxInDHouse:
...A JW child knows that once he/she wants to live contrary to our teachings he/she is no more a Christian. That's why they formed exJW club.

At least, you have Admitted that jw too suffer this same issue whereas you were almost implying above that you people never have it.

SO YOU PEOPLE ARE NO DIFFERENT!

Truvelisback:
U are deviating from question. Don't some JW pastor's children do the same? Are all their children complete saints? I just need a 'Yes' or a 'No'.

He admitted this above but you missed it, so now he is playing the Evasion/Avoidance routine.

jesusjnr2020:
If they were trained in the right way, then it's the children. But if not, it's the parents.

Children who are trained in the right way can also choose not to continue in the way they were trained.

Yep! Which is why we see that Samuel was Excused but Eli was found Culpable!

Dtruthspeaker:

At least, you have Admitted that jw too suffer this same issue whereas you were almost implying above that you people never have it.
SO YOU PEOPLE ARE NO DIFFERENT!

Of course there's a BIG difference!

Despite the fact that JWs children chose to live outside the tenets of Jehovah's Witnesses rules, you will never find any protesting against constituted authorities {Romans 13:1-4} nor join any military services to raise weapons against anyone! Matthew 26:52

So even though they don't want to continue in what their parents taught them, their conscience will not permit them to do what they've learned and believe is wrong!

MaxInDHouse:
..Despite the fact that JWs children chose to live outside the tenets of Jehovah's Witnesses rules,

This is all that was required from you in this case and you have supplied it. So the rest of your contents can be kept in your store.

We do not have any need for them. Thank you! You can go now!

Dtruthspeaker:

This is all that was required from you in this case and you have supplied it. So the rest of your contents can be kept in your store.
We do not have any need for them. Thank you! You can go now!

How fast you forget that you're alone in your own world?
Do you have any group with which you share a common belief?
Guy there's no "WE" in you, so stop quoting me because each person will speak for himself after all that's what you told me earlier about yourself so why are you now trying to drag others along with you when you already said you're alone with your own God?

MaxInDHouse:

How fast you forget that you're alone in your own world?

I am not the issue, so move along!

And for record purposes only, I love being Alone, But I AM NOT ALONE!

So go your way!