Crystyano:
You don't understand. Processing with your brain doesn't mean doing it. I can process eating rice but it doesn't mean I have eaten rice

Again, everything you do, even the moving of your hands to take rice and throwing that rice in your mouth etc., is all handled and processed in and by your mind and brain. Everything decision/choice you make is handled and processed through your mind and brain.

Kobojunkie:
Up until this point, the definition of Faith, I had been applying is as below..

So when I spoke of choosing Faith, I meant more like you may understand as choosing a religion.

Faith is the belief

Off course

A belief is a consideration of something as true even when you cannot determine how it is true



You consider XYZ religion when it is defined as something that has to do with XYZ God as something that is true even when you cannot determine how it is true

Kobojunkie:
Again, everything you do, even the moving of your hands to take rice and throwing that rice in your mouth is all processed in and by your brain. Everything decision/choice you make is handled and processed through your mind and brain.

Off course

You cannot do anything if all your brain cells are dead


But you don't think of eating while putting the desired food in your mouth or/and while eating what you wished for

Crystyano:
Faith is the belief

Off course
A belief is a consideration of something as true even when you cannot determine how it is true
You consider XYZ religion when it is defined as something that has to do with God (s) as something that is true even when you cannot determine how it is true

I explained to you how I arrived at that belief.... did I not?

No part of the process happened arbitrarily. I told you I actively made choices in choosing the God, the belief in God and obedience of the commandments stipulated by the God of my choice etc., it is all a matter of choices which I made of my own. No magic or voodoo involved.

Crystyano:
Off course. You cannot do anything if all your brain cells are dead
But you don't think of eating while putting the desired food in your mouth or/and while eating what you wished for

Actually you do think of eating while putting food in your mouth, else you would be putting food in your mouth then.
You may not be consciously be aware of this but that is what you are thinking when you are putting food in and then chewing it down etc.,

Kobojunkie:
I explained to you how I arrived at that belief.... did I not?

No part of the process happened arbitrarily. I told you I actively made choices in choosing the God, the belief in God and obedience of the commandments stipulated by the God of my choice etc., it is all a matter of choices which I made of my own. No magic or voodoo involved.

The belief has caused you to say these things

But that doesn't mean you can determine how the God you believe in is true

You also can't demonstrate how you chose the belief after investigating


Don't ask me to ask Google

Don't divert

Tell me how you chose the belief

Crystyano:
The belief has caused you to say these things
But that doesn't mean you can determine how the God you believe in is true
You also can't demonstrate how you chose the belief after investigating
Don't ask me to ask Google
Don't divert
Tell me how you chose the belief

I already told you how I chose my belief...

Kobojunkie:
Actually you do think of eating while putting food in your mouth, else you would be putting food in your mouth then.
You may not be consciously be aware of this but that is what you are thinking when you are putting food in and then chewing it down etc.,

You are wrong


You are not in my mind so you cannot determine what I am thinking


Look at this &$$* saying I may not be aware of what I'm thinking



You have failed



Go back to your Google Bla Bla Bla

Google refers you to several people who claim to know Bla Bla Bla


But that doesn't change what I am saying

Kobojunkie:
I already told you how I chose my belief...

Investigating doesn't mean choosing a belief

Crystyano:

You are wrong
You are not in my mind so you cannot determine what I am thinking
Look at this &$$* saying I may not be aware of what I'm thinking
You have failed
Go back to your Google Bla Bla Bla
Google refers you to several people who claim to know Bla Bla Bla
But that doesn't change what I am saying

Please go learn how the human brain and mind work abeg!

Kobojunkie:
Actually you do think of eating while putting food in your mouth, else you would be putting food in your mouth then.
You may not be consciously be aware of this but that is what you are thinking when you are putting food in and then chewing it down etc.,

You don't think of anything while chewing

Crystyano:
Investigating doesn't mean choosing a belief

Well, it does since that's the route I took to arrive at my current belief.

Kobojunkie:
Please go learn how the human brain and mind work abeg!

You have been exposed to lies

Crystyano:
You don't think of anything while chewing

Oh you do! Again, that you are not aware of it does not mean you don't.

Crystyano:
You have been exposed to lies

Neuroscience is a science of lies? Psychiatry is all lies to you?
OK then!

Kobojunkie:
Well, it does since that's the route I took to arrive at my current belief.

You are wrong

The investigation itself was a choice

You chose to investigate

Then you accidentally came across something to believe

Then you started considering your belief as a choice...


What you were told about how the brain works also appeared accidentally to you as the truth

Kobojunkie:
Neuroscience is a science of lies? Psychiatry is all lies to you?
OK then!

Are Neuroscience and Psychiatry all about YOU CHOOSE YOUR FAITH?




Look at this &_#$$$

Crystyano:

You are wrong
The investigation itself was a choice
You chose to investigate
Then you accidentally came across something to believe
Then you started considering your belief as a choice...
What you were told about how the brain works also appeared accidentally to you as the truth

Well, if your intention had all along been to ignore my truth so you can assert yours in its place, you should have made this known from the get go so I would not have wasted my time explaining my journey to you.

I leave you to continue on your own from here then.

Kobojunkie:
Oh you do! Again, that you are not aware of it does not mean you don't.

It depends on your definition of thinking


I consider thinking as focusing your mind on a particular thing (abstract or non-abstract) at a particular time.



You cannot be FOCUSED on something with your mind while chewing



When I say focused

I mean not doing anything else intentionally

Crystyano:

Everyone is born an atheist
Faith occurs by chance in your head
It also disappears by chance

That's a lie!
Your parents sent you to school and hand over a legacy to you but you purposely decided to throw it into the trash. You CHOSE to be an atheist!
So if your parents aren't atheists but you CHOSE atheism when you grew up then you're supposed to throw away everything they gave you including your education.
The only thing you should have done is improve on the legacy they handed over to you which is "faith in God" but you threw it into the trash and now you're crying all over Nairaland wanting all others to throw away their own too.
Well if you can't go further with that legacy but threw it away i'm telling you now that millions will improve in their understanding of God!

Nobody is born an atheist, you grew up to make your choice!

MaxInDHouse:

That's a lie!
Your parents sent you to school and hand over a legacy to you but you purposely decided to throw it into the trash. You CHOSE to be an atheist!
So if your parents aren't atheists but you CHOSE atheism when you grew up then you're supposed to throw away everything they gave you including your education.
The only thing you should have done is improve on the legacy they handed over to you which is "faith in God" but you threw it into the trash and now you're crying all over Nairaland wanting all others to throw away their own too.
Well if you can't go further with that legacy but threw it away i'm telling you now that millions will improve in their understanding of God!

Nobody is born an atheist, you grew up to make your choice!

You are the liar here

Kobojunkie tried to turn things upside down by claiming that Neuroscience and Psychiatry mean you choose your belief


But I'm not taking that as anything but vomit

Crystyano:

You are the liar here
Kobojunkie tried to turn things upside down by claiming that Neuroscience and Psychiatry mean you choose your belief
But I'm not taking that as anything but vomit

Faith comes by hearing! Romans 10:17

So you lied! People CHOOSE to put faith (trust) in the things they hear!

MaxInDHouse:


Faith comes by hearing! Romans 10:17

So you lied! People CHOOSE to put faith (trust) in the things they hear!

People accidentally find what they hear as something that is true even when they can't determine how it is true

Crystyano:

People accidentally find what they hear as something that is true even when they can't determine how it is true

That's credulity, real faith has substance that's visible to everyone.
For instance when the Bible says a time will come when people from different races will come under one umbrella and used the Bible to settle all racial disputes, and they will stop thinking of wars nor participate in military services.
It's like this is not possible because there are thousands of ethic groups and languages on this planet and they're always nepotistic about their own race.
But today a group has emerged out of all the religions on this planet and they have achieved exactly what the Bible foretold only for unbelievers to call them names like Cult and what have you because they find it difficult to believe that people from all races can willingly surrender themselves under the umbrella of one group! Isaiah 2:2-4

So faith is working out something BENEFITIAL that everyone can SEE! Matthew 5:13-16

In Christianity, The RIGHTEOUS, The Faith is CHRIST. And you Choose CHRIST when you ACKNOWLEDGE WITHIN YOU WHAT CHRIST IS IN YOU AND HAS DONE FOR YOU.

In Christianity, The RIGHTEOUS, The Faith is CHRIST. And you Choose CHRIST when you ACKNOWLEDGE WITHIN YOU WHAT CHRIST IS IN YOU AND HAS DONE FOR YOU.

FAITH IS ABRAHAM X ISAAC IS THE FAITH TURNED CHRIST.

GENERALLY, BITING THE FINGERS THAT FEED YOU IS FAITHLESSNESS. ADAM AND EVE LOST IT THE MOMENT THEY FORGOT WHO BUILT THE GARDEN FOR THEM AND ATE HIS OWN FRUIT HE WARNED THEM NOT TO TOUCH.

MaxInDHouse:

That's credulity, real faith has substance that's visible to everyone.
For instance when the Bible says a time will come when people from different races will come under one umbrella and used the Bible to settle all racial disputes, and they will stop thinking of wars nor participate in military services.
It's like this is not possible because there are thousands of ethic groups and languages on this planet and they're always nepotistic about their own race.
But today a group has emerged out of all the religions on this planet and they have achieved exactly what the Bible foretold only for unbelievers to call them names like Cult and what have you because they find it difficult to believe that people from all races can willingly surrender themselves under the umbrella of one group! Isaiah 2:2-4

So faith is working out something BENEFITIAL that everyone can SEE! Matthew 5:13-16

There's nothing special about XYZ forming 123

Crystyano:

There's nothing special about XYZ forming 123

Your PERSONAL opinion Sir!

MaxInDHouse:


Your PERSONAL opinion Sir!

The effect Sir

Crystyano:

The effect Sir

The effect is 8.7 millions globally vowed never to raise weapons against their fellowman. If everyone accepts the teaching then WARS will cease throughout the earth.
That's what EFFECT could mean for you!

MaxInDHouse:

The effect is 8.7 millions globally vowed never to raise weapons against their fellowman. If everyone accepts the teaching then WARS will cease throughout the earth.
That's what EFFECT could mean for you!

Am I permitted to enter where you sleep and take whatever I want